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"I read this story this afternoon. I consider myself articulate - but honestly words fail me. He's allowed to stay because of his family, while this poor man has lost his!! Wrong on so many levels. "what you have to remember is that two wrongs dont make a right | |||
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"An Iraqi Kurd, who mowed down a 12y/o girl whilst disqualified from driving, and fled from the scene leaving her dying under his wheels, has been granted indefinite leave to remain in Britain citing the Human Rights Act that says he is entitled to a family life. At the time of the incident in 2003 he did not have children here but since then he has met a British woman and fathered two children with her. Judges ruled that deportation would deprive his children of a father and him of a family life. The father of the girl that died demanded to know where his human rights, and his right to a family life so cruelly denied him by the killer-driver. One part of me is saying that the killer's children bear no blame for what happened and have a right to see their father, but another part of me says he should have been deported immediately afer serving the FOUR MONTH sentence he got for the offence in 2003. This man also has previous convictions for other unrelated offences. Should he stay or should he go now?" If you or i had have commited this act and had killed someone in irak.. How do you think the courts would have dealt with it ? Sent you home...? i dont think so... Probably you would have been put away for the rest of your life or at worst...shot dead . Why when sentencing anyone do the courts come out with this human rights crap ????? Its not gonna happen anywhere else so why are we so bloody tolerant ? Im not a racist, im not anything but fair minded and as such.. He commited a horrible crime and should be punished accordingly  | |||
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"He did the crime and has served the time. It's not his fault that the time was so little. As tragic as it is for the victims family, that should be the end of the matter. If his crime was deemed serious enough surely he would have been given a deporting order as part of his punishment. " Leaving a 12y/o girl dying under the wheels a car that he was disqualified from driving isn't serious enough then? Or, just maybe, some bleeding heart liberal judge decided that this would be a good chance to demonstrate someone's ability to rehabilitate themselves? | |||
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"He did the crime and has served the time. It's not his fault that the time was so little. As tragic as it is for the victims family, that should be the end of the matter. If his crime was deemed serious enough surely he would have been given a deporting order as part of his punishment. " Did the the time are you serious, fook a few months for killing a little child and diving away from the scene whiles he was banned that to me is Murder he should have been 15 to 20 years in prison   | |||
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"He did the crime and has served the time. It's not his fault that the time was so little. As tragic as it is for the victims family, that should be the end of the matter. If his crime was deemed serious enough surely he would have been given a deporting order as part of his punishment. Did the the time are you serious, fook a few months for killing a little child and diving away from the scene whiles he was banned that to me is Murder he should have been 15 to 20 years in prison "Yes I am serious, the person at fault here was the original judge, I completely agree that sentencing in these types of cases is ridiculously lenient. The system is at fault, but like it or not he's served his time. It's definitely not murder, but it shouldn't have to be murder to get a much stiffer sentence. | |||
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"Since coming to this country and claiming political assylum, this guy has been found guilty of several crimes including burglary and if my memory serves me correctly, violent behavior and we still treat like we do!!! Yes, as someone else has said, the system needs a serious looking at!" And he had been banned from driving before he killed the girl too! | |||
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"He did the crime and has served the time. It's not his fault that the time was so little. As tragic as it is for the victims family, that should be the end of the matter. If his crime was deemed serious enough surely he would have been given a deporting order as part of his punishment. " im guessing you dont have children because if you had im sure if someone mowed down your child and drove away living him/her to die it wouldnt be the end of it as soon as the person had served their time
justice isnt always done and we dont have to agree with it just because its what a judge decided, i know someone who got 6 months for driving while banned, fair enough if was their second offence for driving while banned but even tho they they had done wrong noone was harmed in any way both times he was pulled over by police for spot checks and found to be banned, so how can you give someone 6 months fof driving while a ban who had not had a accident and 4 month for someone who kills someone
its because of things like that people cant just accept some choices and see it as..well thats the end of it | |||
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"He did the crime and has served the time. It's not his fault that the time was so little. As tragic as it is for the victims family, that should be the end of the matter. If his crime was deemed serious enough surely he would have been given a deporting order as part of his punishment. im guessing you dont have children because if you had im sure if someone mowed down your child and drove away living him/her to die it wouldnt be the end of it as soon as the person had served their time
justice isnt always done and we dont have to agree with it just because its what a judge decided, i know someone who got 6 months for driving while banned, fair enough if was their second offence for driving while banned but even tho they they had done wrong noone was harmed in any way both times he was pulled over by police for spot checks and found to be banned, so how can you give someone 6 months fof driving while a ban who had not had a accident and 4 month for someone who kills someone
its because of things like that people cant just accept some choices and see it as..well thats the end of it"Think most of us know why, but no one is listening. | |||
"humm hard one at the end of the day he was a british citizen and did a crime in britain so he should be tried as any other british person, however 4 months is simply not enough for his crime, he may have hit the girl by accident but he chose to drive off and leave her with no medical care to die, couldnt even stop off at a phone box and call a ambulance befor he drove away like the coward he was, to me 4 months is just not enough for that As for deporting him i fail to see how that will change or make what he did seem not so bad also the reasons for not deporting him seems comocal to me, they are protecting the human rights of a man who killed a child while driving illegally......go figure "He didn't drive off though. He ran away leaving the car parked on top of a dying child. And he isn't British. He lost the right to a family life when he ended that poor girl's life and if anything he should still be in jail. If he'd received a longer sentence he wouldn't have been out to meet a British woman and father children by her. It does beg the question: Did he know British law well enough to know that if he had children here he couldn't be deported? | |||
"humm hard one at the end of the day he was a british citizen and did a crime in britain so he should be tried as any other british person, however 4 months is simply not enough for his crime, he may have hit the girl by accident but he chose to drive off and leave her with no medical care to die, couldnt even stop off at a phone box and call a ambulance befor he drove away like the coward he was, to me 4 months is just not enough for that As for deporting him i fail to see how that will change or make what he did seem not so bad also the reasons for not deporting him seems comocal to me, they are protecting the human rights of a man who killed a child while driving illegally......go figure
He didn't drive off though. He ran away leaving the car parked on top of a dying child. And he isn't British.
He lost the right to a family life when he ended that poor girl's life and if anything he should still be in jail. If he'd received a longer sentence he wouldn't have been out to meet a British woman and father children by her. It does beg the question: Did he know British law well enough to know that if he had children here he couldn't be deported?"Agree and in any case Wishy, his kids would be better off not knowing the creep who can run off and leave a child to die! Deport the bastard! | |||
"humm hard one at the end of the day he was a british citizen and did a crime in britain so he should be tried as any other british person, however 4 months is simply not enough for his crime, he may have hit the girl by accident but he chose to drive off and leave her with no medical care to die, couldnt even stop off at a phone box and call a ambulance befor he drove away like the coward he was, to me 4 months is just not enough for that As for deporting him i fail to see how that will change or make what he did seem not so bad also the reasons for not deporting him seems comocal to me, they are protecting the human rights of a man who killed a child while driving illegally......go figure
He didn't drive off though. He ran away leaving the car parked on top of a dying child. And he isn't British.
He lost the right to a family life when he ended that poor girl's life and if anything he should still be in jail. If he'd received a longer sentence he wouldn't have been out to meet a British woman and father children by her. It does beg the question: Did he know British law well enough to know that if he had children here he couldn't be deported?"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? | |||
"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then?" Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. | |||
"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle." Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes. | |||
"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes." | |||
"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes. "Use words if your able its far easier.  | |||
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"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes.
Use words if your able its far easier. "No words on this planet could explain your statement First off he gets in a car knowing he was band ,Secondly ben banned means no insurance thirdley he hits a little girl at sped then carrys on driving and to top it off he gets a lesser sentence than some one who doesnt pay there council tax ,talk about do gooders | |||
"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes.
Use words if your able its far easier.
No words on this planet could explain your statement
First off he gets in a car knowing he was band ,Secondly ben banned means no insurance thirdley he hits a little girl at sped then carrys on driving and to top it off he gets a lesser sentence than some one who doesnt pay there council tax ,talk about do gooders "Nice to find someone who was ACTUALLY at the case and not one who reads his copy of the Sun while picking his nose! You know as little about me as the case and by your statement show you do not think before you type. I understand why the smilies now, you struggle to express your self. | |||
"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes.
Use words if your able its far easier.
No words on this planet could explain your statement
First off he gets in a car knowing he was band ,Secondly ben banned means no insurance thirdley he hits a little girl at sped then carrys on driving and to top it off he gets a lesser sentence than some one who doesnt pay there council tax ,talk about do gooders
Nice to find someone who was
ACTUALLY at the case and not one who reads his copy of the Sun while picking his nose!
You know as little about me as the case and by your statement show you do not think before you type. I understand why the smilies now, you struggle to express your self. "well go and say that to there family you tool | |||
"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes." You're right. You haven't read the article. I suggest you do. It's on the BBC website. | |||
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"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes.
Use words if your able its far easier.
No words on this planet could explain your statement
First off he gets in a car knowing he was band ,Secondly ben banned means no insurance thirdley he hits a little girl at sped then carrys on driving and to top it off he gets a lesser sentence than some one who doesnt pay there council tax ,talk about do gooders
Nice to find someone who was
ACTUALLY at the case and not one who reads his copy of the Sun while picking his nose!
You know as little about me as the case and by your statement show you do not think before you type. I understand why the smilies now, you struggle to express your self.
well go and say that to there family you tool "I was NOT at the case and i presume neither were you. Your copy of the Sun won't have the full facts of the case as it portrays events as it wishes to. Like it or not he was convicted, sentenced and completed what the courts deemed fit. In my _iew it was too short a sentence but that's a different matter. As for the "tool" remark well i expected no less as you clearly struggle with the English language, maybe you should take night classes, they have them for people who struggle you know. | |||
"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes. You're right. You haven't read the article. I suggest you do. It's on the BBC website." A fascinating statement from a man who has repeatedly castigated the BBC for being bias at times. May i suggest you do your normal trait and go google got 60 mins and see if you can plagiarise someone else's opinion and pass it off as your own as you normally do. | |||
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"Its a very emotive subject and more so if you have children. I dont think we need to start a war between ourselves . Just agree to disagree. "I just find it fascinating someone who I presume is an adult and a parent deems it fit to deny children of a father. The issue of the farther and his conviction is a different matter. What I do find a concern is that people are so introverted and bitter as to seek to deny innocent children of their farther after he has been dealt with by the courts rightly or wrongly. | |||
"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes.
Use words if your able its far easier.
No words on this planet could explain your statement
First off he gets in a car knowing he was band ,Secondly ben banned means no insurance thirdley he hits a little girl at sped then carrys on driving and to top it off he gets a lesser sentence than some one who doesnt pay there council tax ,talk about do gooders
Nice to find someone who was
ACTUALLY at the case and not one who reads his copy of the Sun while picking his nose!
You know as little about me as the case and by your statement show you do not think before you type. I understand why the smilies now, you struggle to express your self.
well go and say that to there family you tool
I was NOT at the case and i presume neither were you. Your copy of the Sun won't have the full facts of the case as it portrays events as it wishes to. Like it or not he was convicted, sentenced and completed what the courts deemed fit. In my _iew it was too short a sentence but that's a different matter.
As for the "tool" remark well i expected no less as you clearly struggle with the English language, maybe you should take night classes, they have them for people who struggle you know.
"Firstly I saw the case all over the news when i lived in the midlands, so i dont have to read the newspapers, he was banned from driving which is a fact, unyet he chose to get into that vehicle knowing that he would not have any valid insurance, he then ploughed into that young girl and chose to drive away from the scene which is also a fact, now you tell me how you can defend his actions or justify them. He has stolen the life of that child and he has stolen that child from her family, I am sure the family of the girl will forgive him after serving such a ridiculous time in prison, what an insult to both the child and the family, its an absolute disgrace, as for people saying he didnt set the time to be served he still should have been deported immediately, and we have two kids ourselves and if he had done that to one of ours i would want to chop his head off like they would do to us in his country. As for us not knowing anything, well we know a family of four who were killed on the motorway in recent years which hit the countries headlines and we know the suffering the grandparents of this young family went through and are still living a life of hell so dont tell me that we dont understand, i think you are very disturbed to even try and justify this case in any way, i find it disgraceful and disrespectful | |||
"Surely his wife and children deserve the right to a husband and a father figure though? Or should sharia law be implemented then? Yes, they do, but one worthy of the title, not this scumbag who has scant regard for human life and thought only of saving his own miserable neck. I hope someone somewhere finds him and gives him the savage beating he so richly deserves - and if he dies as a result - well, tough. Welcome to the jungle. Why does he deserve a beating? Surely you believe in democracy and the laws of the land? He was convicted, sentenced and released so his time is spent. He didn't act correctly, who knows he may regret his decision, he may have panicked, he may be full of remorse! I don't know as i haven't read the full case notes so i can only assume as you have. Casting the first stone or promoting violence is not the answer though and surely promoting it in a premeditated fashion could be construed as a worse act than he commuted in some peoples eyes.
Use words if your able its far easier.
No words on this planet could explain your statement
First off he gets in a car knowing he was band ,Secondly ben banned means no insurance thirdley he hits a little girl at sped then carrys on driving and to top it off he gets a lesser sentence than some one who doesnt pay there council tax ,talk about do gooders
Nice to find someone who was
ACTUALLY at the case and not one who reads his copy of the Sun while picking his nose!
You know as little about me as the case and by your statement show you do not think before you type. I understand why the smilies now, you struggle to express your self.
well go and say that to there family you tool
I was NOT at the case and i presume neither were you. Your copy of the Sun won't have the full facts of the case as it portrays events as it wishes to. Like it or not he was convicted, sentenced and completed what the courts deemed fit. In my _iew it was too short a sentence but that's a different matter.
As for the "tool" remark well i expected no less as you clearly struggle with the English language, maybe you should take night classes, they have them for people who struggle you know.
Firstly I saw the case all over the news when i lived in the midlands, so i dont have to read the newspapers, he was banned from driving which is a fact, unyet he chose to get into that vehicle knowing that he would not have any valid insurance, he then ploughed into that young girl and chose to drive away from the scene which is also a fact, now you tell me how you can defend his actions or justify them. He has stolen the life of that child and he has stolen that child from her family, I am sure the family of the girl will forgive him after serving such a ridiculous time in prison, what an insult to both the child and the family, its an absolute disgrace, as for people saying he didnt set the time to be served he still should have been deported immediately, and we have two kids ourselves and if he had done that to one of ours i would want to chop his head off like they would do to us in his country. As for us not knowing anything, well we know a family of four who were killed on the motorway in recent years which hit the countries headlines and we know the suffering the grandparents of this young family went through and are still living a life of hell so dont tell me that we dont understand, i think you are very disturbed to even try and justify this case in any way, i find it disgraceful and disrespectful"I really think your struggleing to understand the situation all round. What he di back in 2003 he was convicted off, he went to prison and served the sentence. Now in 2010 he is trying to stop in the UK to be a father to his children and a husband to his wife. Its not about respect for the 2003 event which is a another issue. What the case is about is making claim to stop in the UK to carry out his parental duty's. If you are going to comment it may be advisable to actually read what it is about. | |||
"A fascinating statement from a man who has repeatedly castigated the BBC for being bias at times. May i suggest you do your normal trait and go google got 60 mins and see if you can plagiarise someone else's opinion and pass it off as your own as you normally do. " Yes, the BBC is biased but so are many other news organisations. My problem with the BBC is that is it supposed to be completely neutral as it is funded by the licence payer. That is a totally separate issue from reporting actual news FACTS, as they have done in this instance. And if I wanted to 'plageurise' the article as my own I wouldn't have posted a reference to the original article on the BBC website, would I? | |||
" Now in 2010 he is trying to stop in the UK to be a father to his children and a husband to his wife. " If you actually go and read the article instead of just commenting on what you think it's about you'll have read that the judges have doubts as to whether he is still living with the mother of his children. His exact habiting arrangements are not clear. | |||
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" .. you don’t have a clue and seem to have resorted to name calling which is not big or clever. " Neither is calling someone neanderthal, nor is making bigotted remarks about the town someone hails from, or assuming they have a low IQ - and stating rather obnoxiously that you are superior to them. Not big or clever. And it says laid back on your profile - is that a reference to everytime you open your mouth in public and someone knocks you out for talking absolute bilge? | |||
" .. you don’t have a clue and seem to have resorted to name calling which is not big or clever. Neither is calling someone neanderthal, nor is making bigotted remarks about the town someone hails from, or assuming they have a low IQ - and stating rather obnoxiously that you are superior to them. Not big or clever. And it says laid back on your profile - is that a reference to everytime you open your mouth in public and someone knocks you out for talking absolute bilge?" I am well aware of that but when sometimes it is necessary to talk to some people in a manner they understand. I assume your just bitter your self as i predicted you would need 60 mins of google time to respond as seems to have been the case, it must have upset you somewhat that someone has pointed out how predictable you are. | |||
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"I do have children. NO ONE is or has suggested that this guy hasn't done a terrible thing, I believe his sentence should have been much more severe, but the fact is he has served his time. It simply is not his fault that our system chooses to be so lenient. To suggest I find it palatable is not correct, but a judges have made the decision based on all the facts instead of snipets of reports. It's tragic what's happened to this little girl but he has served his time. " I would agree with you on that totally. People are sympathetic towards the family and the loss of a child but as you pointed out he served the time the court gave him. I can only assume they have facts and information not reported in the press to make their judgement. | |||
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"What a lovely thread to read first thing in the morning Now I really enjoy a good debate but if you can't be adult enough to debate without resorting to insulting each other then you'll find that you won't be able to post at all Play nicely " Well said. | |||
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"David Cameron is now talking about this and it looks like there is going to be an appeal to get him out of the country" You'd think as PM he'd be able to pull a few strings and get this asshole out of our country. As he rightly said, what's point spedning billions of pounds and hundreds of British lives to make Iraq safe if it's citizens still refuse to go home. | |||
"I read this story this afternoon. I consider myself articulate - but honestly words fail me. He's allowed to stay because of his family, while this poor man has lost his!! Wrong on so many levels. what you have to remember is that two wrongs dont make a right"Sending him back isn't wrong! He's a bloody illegal, he has no right to be here in the first place, let alone causing misery to those who DO have the right to be here! Send him back to where he came from and all others like him. We have enough crime over here without illegals adding to it ffs. Political correctness gone mad! *Her* | |||
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"David Cameron is now talking about this and it looks like there is going to be an appeal to get him out of the country" ...... What !!! Cough, Cough, Splutter, Choke ! Yeah right O sure that's going happen. Right I'll go clean my keyboard off now thanks its coved in coffee...
* sits on headstone *
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