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By *inkxRabbit OP   Woman  over a year ago

Mostly in GU24

Who else finds fucking somebody in their marital bed really horny? I get a real rush from going round to guys' houses to use their bed. It's nothing to do with me wanting their husband for anything other than sex, it's just delightfully naughty.

Today my bed, not used for sex for YEARS finally came into use. Man I'm pleased about that! For the record I'm married amd playing with consent.

I'll get my coat.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

No, I find it a total turnoff.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

Is the turn on because the wife doesn't know when you are fucking in their marital bed?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I personally love it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who else finds fucking somebody in their marital bed really horny? I get a real rush from going round to guys' houses to use their bed. It's nothing to do with me wanting their husband for anything other than sex, it's just delightfully naughty.

Today my bed, not used for sex for YEARS finally came into use. Man I'm pleased about that! For the record I'm married amd playing with consent.

I'll get my coat. "

I love it but was talking to a lady friend the other day and said she did it once and even though she isn't especially close to her hubby it resulted in replacement of the whole bed and its component parts

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I only play with a lady with her partner's consent, but yes it's definitely a turn on.

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By *histle do nicelyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow South


"Who else finds fucking somebody in their marital bed really horny? I get a real rush from going round to guys' houses to use their bed. It's nothing to do with me wanting their husband for anything other than sex, it's just delightfully naughty.

Today my bed, not used for sex for YEARS finally came into use. Man I'm pleased about that! For the record I'm married amd playing with consent.

I'll get my coat. "

love it

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By *inkxRabbit OP   Woman  over a year ago

Mostly in GU24

I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?"

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed. "

Totally agree

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who else finds fucking somebody in their marital bed really horny? I get a real rush from going round to guys' houses to use their bed. It's nothing to do with me wanting their husband for anything other than sex, it's just delightfully naughty.

Today my bed, not used for sex for YEARS finally came into use. Man I'm pleased about that! For the record I'm married amd playing with consent.

I'll get my coat. "

Not for me. I personally feel that your bed should be for you and your partner.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bed's a bed. Beats hot coals and razor wire.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I used to see a lady friend and used her marital bed many times....

.....there is a real buzz about it for me.

I'm with you OP.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed. "

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By *ilk_TrayMan  over a year ago

South

I used to sleep in a married woman bed when her hubby was out of town.

Couldn't relax when I slept over as I'd always worry about him coming back to find me in his wife's bed.

Slept with one open and that is not comfortable

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

if I am honest, I am anti violence but there are times I read things and think... 'If only the partner arrived home and kicked your arse'

so, it's a no

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not for me, either my bed or someone else's. But I'm a hotel kinda gal anyway.

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By *ordsandstuffMan  over a year ago

Highbury

I think consent is real important here. With consent 'horny' without it a definite 'no'.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?"

Not for me to judge what you chose to do or what turns you on.

However I could not think of anything worse. Complete lack of respect for the other person in his life. I think it speaks volumes about the character of a person. Absolute turn off for me.

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By *uby0000Woman  over a year ago

hertfordshire

my bed used to be like a ferry

one rolls out ..one rolls in

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By *rotiquexxxMan  over a year ago

Unquenchable Desires

So the husband comes home from a long day at work. Goes to bed and wakes up with crabs because the wife fucked another man in his bed. No thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"my bed used to be like a ferry

one rolls out ..one rolls in "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Zero turn on

Unless I met a couple together, I would always assume there is no consent .

In my eyes, emotional betrayal is worse than sexual betrayal and inviting someone into the home you share with your partner is a massive betrayal of trust imho

I don't want any part of that.

In the times I have lived with people, I have always told them if they want to play with others, it's away matches only.

No home games here : unless I am refereeing

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. ?"

I have no words

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. ?

I have no words

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That's sometimes for the best

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed. "

Totally agree x

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed. "

Indeed! What low lives.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who else finds fucking somebody in their marital bed really horny? I get a real rush from going round to guys' houses to use their bed. It's nothing to do with me wanting their husband for anything other than sex, it's just delightfully naughty.

Today my bed, not used for sex for YEARS finally came into use. Man I'm pleased about that! For the record I'm married amd playing with consent.

I'll get my coat. "

Like the OP I am in an open relationship but the understanding is that we never bring our playmates home. It's a small price to pay and I also think I would not be happy playing in some other couples bed. Of course until the moment actually comes LOL

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed. "

swinging is respecting who exactly ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The difference when a woman is posting..... lol.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed. swinging is respecting who exactly ? "

You see no respect in swinging? Between the people who are swinging?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Gobsmacked total lack of respect.

only people we choose together share our bed

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed.

swinging is respecting who exactly ? "

Did that make sense in your head?

Mutual respect is very apparent in my world of swinging. I'm not sure what you mean exactly... would you care to elaborate?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Personally I think it shows a complete lack of respect to ask someone you're intending to fuck into the marital home regardless if the bed is used it not.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i do have a liking for attached guys but I've already said a guy I couldn't do it in their bed, its one thing him cheating but couldn't do it x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I found out I was in a shared bed after the fact. I panicked and started checking for hair and makeup on the bed. He wasn't bothered

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I found out I was in a shared bed after the fact. I panicked and started checking for hair and makeup on the bed. He wasn't bothered "

When the guy asked me a while ago, it did cross my mind to say yes but apart from the fact it's wrong, I have red hair, his wife was blonde x

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

R.I.P the sisterhood.

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn


"R.I.P the sisterhood."

A bit of cock came first

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The thought if doing that makes me nervous, not horny.

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"R.I.P the sisterhood."

Yup... it's just not something that sits right with me at all. There are hundreds of ways to get your kicks and that just isn't one of them.

Put the shoe on the other foot... it'd be the last fuck he had for quite some time if I caught my husband/partner in MY bed with another woman.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I think it shows a complete lack of respect to ask someone you're intending to fuck into the marital home regardless if the bed is used it not."
hey you are right it is disrespectfulx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"R.I.P the sisterhood.

A bit of cock came first"

Men can be incredibly disrespectful to partners for a bit of fanny

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn


"R.I.P the sisterhood.

A bit of cock came first

Men can be incredibly disrespectful to partners for a bit of fanny"

indeed they can be..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've done it and it was not a turn on. In fact going in to their home just reinforced my place on the sidelines.

I left in tears feeling like the lowest of the low. Everything of her in their home made me feel inferior.

Yet my need for him and those moments were so strong that I did it. Knowing fully how it made me feel..

Even the other woman does have feelings.

He seemed to love it though.

My own bed is pretty sacred to me now and even if I was meeting people. They wouldn't get near it.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan  over a year ago

Luton

It's not a turn on for me and can be a turn off.

My wife and I enjoy a very open marriage but one of the few limits is that we don't play with others in our own marital bed. I understand that others don't feel the same way but going into a bedroom, even when hubby knows and approves....seeing the room is clearly decorated with things enjoyed by both parties, doesn't really help get me in the mood.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Also it's not just men who do this. When I was married I did use or bed. However I absolutely despised my ex husband a lot of the time.

I'm now awaiting hate mail

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I really really feel for the person who hasn't a clue .

May karma bite you in the arse one day .

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By *ensual temptressWoman  over a year ago

Southampton


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?"

Well as long as you get your jollies to hell with anyone one else huh . Nowt horny about being selfish and just shows a total lack of respect and accountability . Sure you'd not find it "exciting" and "horny" if you found your guy fucking a random in your bed behind your back . One word ..KARMA.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

just plain nasty....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"R.I.P the sisterhood.

A bit of cock came first"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't think its about finding it horny at all. Reckon the OP has rather tragic levels of low self esteem.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've been involved with a married woman for a while and always at her place, never in the marital bed she doesn't feel right about it.

Its an odd one she willingly has sex but not in her bed always her daughter's(daughter is late 20s) bed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've been involved with a married woman for a while and always at her place, never in the marital bed she doesn't feel right about it.

Its an odd one she willingly has sex but not in her bed always her daughter's(daughter is late 20s) bed."

but it feels right in her daughters bed, really!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I actually don't like the thought of having sex in someone else's bed full stop....be that his wife, his daughter, his mum, his dad, his brother, his flatmate...

I love my bed, it's my space and my sanctuary and I'd feel too much like I was disturbing someone else's.

Spare beds used by guests on very rare occasions and hotel beds for me

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By *aucy tiggerWoman  over a year ago

Back where I belong

Totally agree - whilst I don't have a problem playing around with married men, I will not enter the marital home.

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"I've been involved with a married woman for a while and always at her place, never in the marital bed she doesn't feel right about it.

Its an odd one she willingly has sex but not in her bed always her daughter's(daughter is late 20s) bed."

I can't decide which is worse! *shudders*

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I once met a woman in her home & to be honest I was permanently on edge, listening out for the slightest noise and wasn't comfortable at all. Had to say sorry I can't go through with this, she proceeded to think it was down to me not fancying her and got the hump

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I met a woman from here at her home her profile and messages stated single no kids after ten seconds in the house i was left with no doubt the she had both a husband and two kids due to the wedding and family portrait hanging in the hallway

Made my excuses and turn straight around and out the door disgusting behavior

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By *inkxRabbit OP   Woman  over a year ago

Mostly in GU24


"Also it's not just men who do this. When I was married I did use or bed. However I absolutely despised my ex husband a lot of the time.

I'm now awaiting hate mail "

I despise mine.

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By *inkxRabbit OP   Woman  over a year ago

Mostly in GU24


"Bed's a bed. Beats hot coals and razor wire. "

Precisely

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By *inkxRabbit OP   Woman  over a year ago

Mostly in GU24


"Who else finds fucking somebody in their marital bed really horny? I get a real rush from going round to guys' houses to use their bed. It's nothing to do with me wanting their husband for anything other than sex, it's just delightfully naughty.

Today my bed, not used for sex for YEARS finally came into use. Man I'm pleased about that! For the record I'm married amd playing with consent.

I'll get my coat.

Not for me. I personally feel that your bed should be for you and your partner. "

My husband hasn't done anything for me for 14 years. He knows I play with lots of blokes He'd go ballistic if he knew where. That's why some things are best not mentioned.

My fb's wife's hair is short and blonde. Me long and dark. If nothing else it might get him to hoover the place lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?"

Yes it is bad that you don't feel guilty.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I met a woman from here at her home her profile and messages stated single no kids after ten seconds in the house i was left with no doubt the she had both a husband and two kids due to the wedding and family portrait hanging in the hallway

Made my excuses and turn straight around and out the door disgusting behavior"

Good on you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've been involved with a married woman for a while and always at her place, never in the marital bed she doesn't feel right about it.

Its an odd one she willingly has sex but not in her bed always her daughter's(daughter is late 20s) bed.

but it feels right in her daughters bed, really!!

"

Exactly that's even worse

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Peoples lack of morals never fail to astound me fucking someone married and doing it in their marital bed is frankly disgusting behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I prefer someone else's bed just so I don't have to clean the sheets

But I don't do cheats so no marital beds for me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I prefer someone else's bed just so I don't have to clean the sheets

But I don't do cheats so no marital beds for me"

I love this answer

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I prefer someone else's bed just so I don't have to clean the sheets

But I don't do cheats so no marital beds for me

I love this answer "

I love you love this answer

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I prefer someone else's bed just so I don't have to clean the sheets

But I don't do cheats so no marital beds for me

I love this answer "

I love you love this answer

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By *iSTARessWoman  over a year ago

London


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?"

You describe yourself as a swinger yet I've always assumed swinging was about mutual consent from all sides. So much for the sisterhood eh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Love it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

You describe yourself as a swinger yet I've always assumed swinging was about mutual consent from all sides. So much for the sisterhood eh "

Exactly! She's not a swinger just a cheater!

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"Who else finds fucking somebody in their marital bed really horny? I get a real rush from going round to guys' houses to use their bed. It's nothing to do with me wanting their husband for anything other than sex, it's just delightfully naughty.

Today my bed, not used for sex for YEARS finally came into use. Man I'm pleased about that! For the record I'm married amd playing with consent.

I'll get my coat.

Not for me. I personally feel that your bed should be for you and your partner.

My husband hasn't done anything for me for 14 years. He knows I play with lots of blokes He'd go ballistic if he knew where. That's why some things are best not mentioned.

My fb's wife's hair is short and blonde. Me long and dark. If nothing else it might get him to hoover the place lol "

It's a public service you're performing really then.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo


"Also it's not just men who do this. When I was married I did use or bed. However I absolutely despised my ex husband a lot of the time.

I'm now awaiting hate mail

I despise mine. "

We can tell.

I have to be honest, there are lots of threads where men say they love their wife but need sex and why they are on here, they then get a thread telling them what they should do with their life where posts are not civil and the mods normally have to step in...yet you on the other hand say you despise your husband / love being disrespectful to him by shagging in his bed and have no respect for other peoples spouses and yet there is a very civil thread going on.

Personally for me, married people can do what they like when they like, it is their conscience they are living with and no one knows what goes on in other peoples lives...but as you say you despise your husband, why not do HIM a favour and leave him so he can find someone with a little bit of respect

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By *isscheekychopsWoman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

WTF this thread just shows if you have a flange it's ok but God forbid you had a willy and put up a thread, if you hate your husband that much then leave so that he can move on with his life....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"WTF this thread just shows if you have a flange it's ok but God forbid you had a willy and put up a thread, if you hate your husband that much then leave so that he can move on with his life...."

Exactly. If a guy had said this he would have been vilified. I say what I think whether they're male or female.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"WTF this thread just shows if you have a flange it's ok but God forbid you had a willy and put up a thread, if you hate your husband that much then leave so that he can move on with his life....

Exactly. If a guy had said this he would have been vilified. I say what I think whether they're male or female."

Yep!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"WTF this thread just shows if you have a flange it's ok but God forbid you had a willy and put up a thread, if you hate your husband that much then leave so that he can move on with his life....

Exactly. If a guy had said this he would have been vilified. I say what I think whether they're male or female.

Yep! "

I'm just too opinionated to keep my mouth shut

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By *isscheekychopsWoman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I just think it is a total lack of respect, it just screams to me that is is abusing the fact that her husband has allowed her to see orhrt men I think it just takes the fucking piss personally

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just think it is a total lack of respect, it just screams to me that is is abusing the fact that her husband has allowed her to see orhrt men I think it just takes the fucking piss personally "

I agree totally and the fact that she feels no guilt is frankly shocking!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed. "

I wouldn't shag a guy that could show such lack of respect its like their just taking the piss out of their partner

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

It's probably just as well that crabs are kind of on their last legs, as it may be more than just you that's sharing the marital bed, with wifey getting something from the action too.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"I just think it is a total lack of respect, it just screams to me that is is abusing the fact that her husband has allowed her to see orhrt men I think it just takes the fucking piss personally

I agree totally and the fact that she feels no guilt is frankly shocking!"

Let her get on with it karma is a bitch at the best of times...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed. I wouldn't shag a guy that could show such lack of respect its like their just taking the piss out of their partner"

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman  over a year ago
Forum Mod

My Own Little World


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. ?

I have no words

"

I have the words, but you would give me a ban if I used them so I shall leave it at

Wow!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I honestly couldn't meet a guy and even go to their home knowing their wife didn't know let alone their bed

I just find it disrespectful

she works hard to make her house a home and I wouldn't feel good invading it

maybe some people will find me quite frankly boring for saying that but it's how I feel

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. ?

I have no words

I have the words, but you would give me a ban if I used them so I shall leave it at

Wow!!

"

I've bitten my tongue a few times lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I honestly couldn't meet a guy and even go to their home knowing their wife didn't know let alone their bed

I just find it disrespectful

she works hard to make her house a home and I wouldn't feel good invading it

maybe some people will find me quite frankly boring for saying that but it's how I feel "

I feel the same way! Nothing wrong with having morals.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"WTF this thread just shows if you have a flange it's ok but God forbid you had a willy and put up a thread, if you hate your husband that much then leave so that he can move on with his life....

Exactly. If a guy had said this he would have been vilified. I say what I think whether they're male or female.

Yep! "

I've seen a fair amount of vilification of the OP unless I'm reading a different thread to the rest of you. Would people prefer a bit more abuse to be thrown, in the interests of balance?

Or is this actually how the thread should go if started by a man too. People saying whether it is or isn't for them, and their reasons for that _iew.

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By *oobsandballsMan  over a year ago

st andrews

I've just finally got around to redecorating the spare room and we're contemplating accommodating people that we trust.

It'll be the spare room though, my bed is just for us

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By *ancs MinxWoman  over a year ago

Burnley


"I honestly couldn't meet a guy and even go to their home knowing their wife didn't know let alone their bed

I just find it disrespectful

she works hard to make her house a home and I wouldn't feel good invading it

maybe some people will find me quite frankly boring for saying that but it's how I feel

I feel the same way! Nothing wrong with having morals. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?"

I think this is quite sad. Genuine question, how would you feel if it was the other way around ?

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"WTF this thread just shows if you have a flange it's ok but God forbid you had a willy and put up a thread, if you hate your husband that much then leave so that he can move on with his life....

Exactly. If a guy had said this he would have been vilified. I say what I think whether they're male or female.

Yep!

I've seen a fair amount of vilification of the OP unless I'm reading a different thread to the rest of you. Would people prefer a bit more abuse to be thrown, in the interests of balance?

Or is this actually how the thread should go if started by a man too. People saying whether it is or isn't for them, and their reasons for that _iew. "

I said exactly what I think. You don't have to be abusive to convey your distaste for someone's behaviour. Their gender doesn't come into it for me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I love to fuck married guys in their marital beds. Such a turn on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I said exactly what I think. You don't have to be abusive to convey your distaste for someone's behaviour. Their gender doesn't come into it for me. "

My thinking exactly

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By *rtemisiaWoman  over a year ago

Norwich


"Who else finds fucking somebody in their marital bed really horny? I get a real rush from going round to guys' houses to use their bed. It's nothing to do with me wanting their husband for anything other than sex, it's just delightfully naughty.

Today my bed, not used for sex for YEARS finally came into use. Man I'm pleased about that! For the record I'm married amd playing with consent.

I'll get my coat. "

Just fucked in my lovely bed and now it's covered in sweat and cum.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"WTF this thread just shows if you have a flange it's ok but God forbid you had a willy and put up a thread, if you hate your husband that much then leave so that he can move on with his life....

Exactly. If a guy had said this he would have been vilified. I say what I think whether they're male or female.

Yep!

I've seen a fair amount of vilification of the OP unless I'm reading a different thread to the rest of you. Would people prefer a bit more abuse to be thrown, in the interests of balance?

Or is this actually how the thread should go if started by a man too. People saying whether it is or isn't for them, and their reasons for that _iew. "

I'm not sure that any of us can say how a thread "should" go. I would just like to see a little more consistency in responses towards men and women. I try to respond in a similar way to all genders but I sometimes look back and think I might have been biased one way.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"WTF this thread just shows if you have a flange it's ok but God forbid you had a willy and put up a thread, if you hate your husband that much then leave so that he can move on with his life....

Exactly. If a guy had said this he would have been vilified. I say what I think whether they're male or female.

Yep!

I've seen a fair amount of vilification of the OP unless I'm reading a different thread to the rest of you. Would people prefer a bit more abuse to be thrown, in the interests of balance?

Or is this actually how the thread should go if started by a man too. People saying whether it is or isn't for them, and their reasons for that _iew.

I'm not sure that any of us can say how a thread "should" go. I would just like to see a little more consistency in responses towards men and women. I try to respond in a similar way to all genders but I sometimes look back and think I might have been biased one way."

I think there are a few things that can be said though, such as that no one, male or female, no matter how abhorrent you find their _iews or practices, should be subject to abuse or personal attacks. In my opinion.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

My _iew wasn't a personal attack on the OP my _iew was what I thought of the whole situation and the lack of respect another human being is being shown or the fact that she hates her husband. My _iew is the same had a man said it but I do still believe that men do still get the raw end of the deal when threads like these are posted.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My _iew wasn't a personal attack on the OP my _iew was what I thought of the whole situation and the lack of respect another human being is being shown or the fact that she hates her husband. My _iew is the same had a man said it but I do still believe that men do still get the raw end of the deal when threads like these are posted.

"

I didn't think it was. And I agree men get the raw end of the deal too. But I think the answer to that is for people not to subject men to personal abuse when they post such topics, rather than some kind of race to the bottom where women get slated for posting something like this too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree men get the raw end of the deal too. But I think the answer to that is for people not to subject men to personal abuse when they post such topics, rather than some kind of race to the bottom where women get slated for posting something like this too. "

"be excellent to each other"

Bill S. Preston, Esquire and Ted "Theodore" Login.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"My _iew wasn't a personal attack on the OP my _iew was what I thought of the whole situation and the lack of respect another human being is being shown or the fact that she hates her husband. My _iew is the same had a man said it but I do still believe that men do still get the raw end of the deal when threads like these are posted.

I didn't think it was. And I agree men get the raw end of the deal too. But I think the answer to that is for people not to subject men to personal abuse when they post such topics, rather than some kind of race to the bottom where women get slated for posting something like this too. "

unless posts have been removed before I've read them this has been the most harmonious thread on the subject I've ever seen.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My _iew wasn't a personal attack on the OP my _iew was what I thought of the whole situation and the lack of respect another human being is being shown or the fact that she hates her husband. My _iew is the same had a man said it but I do still believe that men do still get the raw end of the deal when threads like these are posted.

I didn't think it was. And I agree men get the raw end of the deal too. But I think the answer to that is for people not to subject men to personal abuse when they post such topics, rather than some kind of race to the bottom where women get slated for posting something like this too. unless posts have been removed before I've read them this has been the most harmonious thread on the subject I've ever seen.

"

Which is why I said in a post above that this is how I thought posts of this type should go.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"My _iew wasn't a personal attack on the OP my _iew was what I thought of the whole situation and the lack of respect another human being is being shown or the fact that she hates her husband. My _iew is the same had a man said it but I do still believe that men do still get the raw end of the deal when threads like these are posted.

I didn't think it was. And I agree men get the raw end of the deal too. But I think the answer to that is for people not to subject men to personal abuse when they post such topics, rather than some kind of race to the bottom where women get slated for posting something like this too. unless posts have been removed before I've read them this has been the most harmonious thread on the subject I've ever seen.

Which is why I said in a post above that this is how I thought posts of this type should go."

oh right, I misread your post, maybe if it had been posted on a different day there would of been a different response

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"

I didn't think it was. And I agree men get the raw end of the deal too. But I think the answer to that is for people not to subject men to personal abuse when they post such topics, rather than some kind of race to the bottom where women get slated for posting something like this too. "

I don't think people are saying because men get vitriolic posts when they post something like this that this woman should have got the same. More that we were pointing out the obvious difference to how the threads go depending on the gender.

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By *rand XMan  over a year ago

east sussex

My gf has two daughters in their 20's that do not approve of our FB situation so this weekend one was on holiday and the other back at uni.......

I fucked their mother on their beds and had a great time doing.

And it felt good

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By *izzy.Woman  over a year ago

Stoke area


"I honestly couldn't meet a guy and even go to their home knowing their wife didn't know let alone their bed

I just find it disrespectful

she works hard to make her house a home and I wouldn't feel good invading it

maybe some people will find me quite frankly boring for saying that but it's how I feel "

My thoughts exactly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My gf has two daughters in their 20's that do not approve of our FB situation so this weekend one was on holiday and the other back at uni.......

I fucked their mother on their beds and had a great time doing.

And it felt good "

Because of course that's the adult thing to do shame on her too! I'd never fuck in my sons bed (not even when he goes off to uni). Its disgusting!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I didn't think it was. And I agree men get the raw end of the deal too. But I think the answer to that is for people not to subject men to personal abuse when they post such topics, rather than some kind of race to the bottom where women get slated for posting something like this too.

I don't think people are saying because men get vitriolic posts when they post something like this that this woman should have got the same. More that we were pointing out the obvious difference to how the threads go depending on the gender.

"

Yeah fair enough I suppose I just don't really understand the point of the "if a man had posted this" observation. It's like there's almost a sense of disappointment it hasn't kicked off more.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"

I didn't think it was. And I agree men get the raw end of the deal too. But I think the answer to that is for people not to subject men to personal abuse when they post such topics, rather than some kind of race to the bottom where women get slated for posting something like this too.

I don't think people are saying because men get vitriolic posts when they post something like this that this woman should have got the same. More that we were pointing out the obvious difference to how the threads go depending on the gender.

Yeah fair enough I suppose I just don't really understand the point of the "if a man had posted this" observation. It's like there's almost a sense of disappointment it hasn't kicked off more."

You are obviously reading it different to how it is meant.There is nothing wrong with pointing out the double standards on here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I honestly couldn't meet a guy and even go to their home knowing their wife didn't know let alone their bed

I just find it disrespectful

she works hard to make her house a home and I wouldn't feel good invading it

maybe some people will find me quite frankly boring for saying that but it's how I feel "

hey its your opinion nothing wrong with it ,not boring at all xx

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell "

Speak for yourself lady... I'm single so can drop my drawers for whomever I choose.

I would always choose not to hop into a marital bed without consent of both parties. So yes, different morals are in play.

But I'm quite happy to go downstairs... it'll be warm and all my mates will be there.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I honestly couldn't meet a guy and even go to their home knowing their wife didn't know let alone their bed

I just find it disrespectful

she works hard to make her house a home and I wouldn't feel good invading it

maybe some people will find me quite frankly boring for saying that but it's how I feel hey its your opinion nothing wrong with it ,not boring at all xx"

That's what I said to the man after I found out he had a gf. I don't like to preach as I don't know what goes on in relationships but the conscience kicked in.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell "

I have morals.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

Speak for yourself lady... I'm single so can drop my drawers for whomever I choose.

I would always choose not to hop into a marital bed without consent of both parties. So yes, different morals are in play.

But I'm quite happy to go downstairs... it'll be warm and all my mates will be there. "

No no,by societies standards us singletons who have recreational sex with multiple partners have no morals. I'll save you a seat by the fire

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I haven't read all the posts on this thread, but I can say that I get a feeling of visceral sadness thinking about someone enjoying the fact that they are fucking in their married partners bed, and the partner doesn't know.

I'm not being moralistic. Just saying that my innate reaction is sadness. Its seems too close to gaining pleasure from other people's pain.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

I have morals. "

Where your sexual activity is concerned society will say you don't. We all have morals of some kind.

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

Speak for yourself lady... I'm single so can drop my drawers for whomever I choose.

I would always choose not to hop into a marital bed without consent of both parties. So yes, different morals are in play.

But I'm quite happy to go downstairs... it'll be warm and all my mates will be there.

No no,by societies standards us singletons who have recreational sex with multiple partners have no morals. I'll save you a seat by the fire "

Aha... that's only if you give a shit about societies standards and given recent current affairs, I'm pretty sure that my morals are considerable higher up the acceptable chain than the society who are running our country, notwithstanding the position of my drawers.

Throw another log on the fire and I'll see you down there!

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"

Where your sexual activity is concerned society will say you don't. "

It still doesn't mean you can't have any morals of your own, whether you are a swinging couple dropping your drawers for someone other than your partner or a single woman on a swinging site looking for casual sex

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell "

sorry that's bollocks..

to assume that people who on the whole one would hope have made a decision where consent and respect for their OH if applicable and themselves individually are without 'morals' is twaddle..

you are only speaking for yourself..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If consent involved I guess it's just sex.

If it's not with consent, in a marital bed, particularly with children in the marital relationship, then not a chance in hell would I do that. I don't need my ego boosting, never mind by helping someone live such a lie, a risky life too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's not just beds though is it? How many have fucked over marital dining tables, marital sofa's or on marital living room floors?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

Speak for yourself lady... I'm single so can drop my drawers for whomever I choose.

I would always choose not to hop into a marital bed without consent of both parties. So yes, different morals are in play.

But I'm quite happy to go downstairs... it'll be warm and all my mates will be there.

No no,by societies standards us singletons who have recreational sex with multiple partners have no morals. I'll save you a seat by the fire

Aha... that's only if you give a shit about societies standards and given recent current affairs, I'm pretty sure that my morals are considerable higher up the acceptable chain than the society who are running our country, notwithstanding the position of my drawers.

Throw another log on the fire and I'll see you down there! "

Exactly! I don't and I doubt anyone on this thread does either. Bring chestnuts,I don't like popcorn

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's not just beds though is it? How many have fucked over marital dining tables, marital sofa's or on marital living room floors? "

Probably a lot. The thought of anyone having sex on a dining table makes me cringe. I hope they bleach it after.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

sorry that's bollocks..

to assume that people who on the whole one would hope have made a decision where consent and respect for their OH if applicable and themselves individually are without 'morals' is twaddle..

you are only speaking for yourself.."

I think you'll find that morals are dictated by society,and sex is one of the big moral issues. I may have more morals than you by society's standards. You may think different.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Where your sexual activity is concerned society will say you don't.

It still doesn't mean you can't have any morals of your own, whether you are a swinging couple dropping your drawers for someone other than your partner or a single woman on a swinging site looking for casual sex"

Morals are dictated by society,especially where sex is concerned.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's not just beds though is it? How many have fucked over marital dining tables, marital sofa's or on marital living room floors? "

Hard up against the marital front door, to me, doesn't seem the same as the highly personal and private nature of the marital bed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

sorry that's bollocks..

to assume that people who on the whole one would hope have made a decision where consent and respect for their OH if applicable and themselves individually are without 'morals' is twaddle..

you are only speaking for yourself..

I think you'll find that morals are dictated by society,and sex is one of the big moral issues. I may have more morals than you by society's standards. You may think different. "

I disagree with you on morals being dictated by society...I'd be interested in a more in depth conversation about this when we both have some free time

Moral philosophy is a particular interest of mine.

But what it ultimately means is that you and others are going to disagree on this point merely because of your theory of morality...

-Courtney

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"

Where your sexual activity is concerned society will say you don't.

It still doesn't mean you can't have any morals of your own, whether you are a swinging couple dropping your drawers for someone other than your partner or a single woman on a swinging site looking for casual sex

Morals are dictated by society,especially where sex is concerned. "

That makes no sense, I have my own morals and can decide what they are without society telling me what they should be

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

I have morals.

Where your sexual activity is concerned society will say you don't. We all have morals of some kind. "

Some sections of society will say I don't. Some sections of society would consider me immoral because I had sex before I was married, some because I wear low cut tops as long as I can look myself in the eye in the morning in the mirror I don't care. I think applying morality to consensual

sexual activity is something that should stop.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

I have morals.

Where your sexual activity is concerned society will say you don't. We all have morals of some kind.

Some sections of society will say I don't. Some sections of society would consider me immoral because I had sex before I was married, some because I wear low cut tops as long as I can look myself in the eye in the morning in the mirror I don't care. I think applying morality to consensual

sexual activity is something that should stop. "

By specifying "consensual" you are already applying morality.

It is inevitable. It's just that everyone works with their own moral compass or philosophy. It's just a shame more people aren't internally consistent in their moral beliefs.

-Courtney

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

sorry that's bollocks..

to assume that people who on the whole one would hope have made a decision where consent and respect for their OH if applicable and themselves individually are without 'morals' is twaddle..

you are only speaking for yourself..

I think you'll find that morals are dictated by society,and sex is one of the big moral issues. I may have more morals than you by society's standards. You may think different.

I disagree with you on morals being dictated by society...I'd be interested in a more in depth conversation about this when we both have some free time

Moral philosophy is a particular interest of mine.

But what it ultimately means is that you and others are going to disagree on this point merely because of your theory of morality...

-Courtney"

You absolutely should do a thread on this... I'd be fascinated too!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

I have morals.

Where your sexual activity is concerned society will say you don't. We all have morals of some kind.

Some sections of society will say I don't. Some sections of society would consider me immoral because I had sex before I was married, some because I wear low cut tops as long as I can look myself in the eye in the morning in the mirror I don't care. I think applying morality to consensual

sexual activity is something that should stop.

By specifying "consensual" you are already applying morality.

It is inevitable. It's just that everyone works with their own moral compass or philosophy. It's just a shame more people aren't internally consistent in their moral beliefs.

-Courtney"

Giving consent does not negate the morality of it. You don't decide what is moraly right. I'm trying to challenge the use of the word morals which is quite often thrown around on here when certain sexual activities are mentioned. Is there a sliding scale of morality we subconsciously apply to certain acts and people? My friend says jokingly that I have no morals,she knows all about my sex life. I hit back with she's the one who had a bit on the side for years. Which of us would society seem to have the lower moral standards?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

I have morals.

Where your sexual activity is concerned society will say you don't. We all have morals of some kind.

Some sections of society will say I don't. Some sections of society would consider me immoral because I had sex before I was married, some because I wear low cut tops as long as I can look myself in the eye in the morning in the mirror I don't care. I think applying morality to consensual

sexual activity is something that should stop.

By specifying "consensual" you are already applying morality.

It is inevitable. It's just that everyone works with their own moral compass or philosophy. It's just a shame more people aren't internally consistent in their moral beliefs.

-Courtney

Giving consent does not negate the morality of it. You don't decide what is moraly right. I'm trying to challenge the use of the word morals which is quite often thrown around on here when certain sexual activities are mentioned. Is there a sliding scale of morality we subconsciously apply to certain acts and people? My friend says jokingly that I have no morals,she knows all about my sex life. I hit back with she's the one who had a bit on the side for years. Which of us would society seem to have the lower moral standards? "

But this is exactly what I mean. Giving consent can 100% change the morality of a sexual act. It is the reason why beastiality and child porn are deemed wrong. Now, how we decided that consent is the important factor is the more interesting question. For that, you would have to question your very moral philosophy. Is morality a priori, as Kant would have us believe? Or is it consequentialist, as Mills would argue? And there are many more.

There are other things that are not moral questions, correct. Then there are beliefs where people hold two morality inconsistent _iewpoints (this happens very often with sexual activity).

But again, you will likely disagree with someone who holds a different basic moral philosophy to your own.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh! And I forgot to add Aristotelian virtue ethics which would very much put moral value in the hands of the person deciding a moral issue (it is very heavily reliant on individual values and abilities).

Most people hold one of these more beliefs without even being aware. More often, people hold multiple beliefs, inconsistently and simultaneously.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh dear what a shitstorm I started by mentioning morality

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is the issue not just that people use the word 'morals' as though it is a universal, objective thing, rather than something that is totally subjective dependent on your own _iew of the world. We can tend towards common positions such as pretty much everyone believes killing somebody to be immoral. But then there are degrees even within something which looks as cut and dried as that. Someone might believe killing someone on the battlefield is moral, others would still see it as immoral.

So when somoene says "that's immoral" all they can ever be saying is "that doesn't fit with my own code of morality".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh dear what a shitstorm I started by mentioning morality "

It's not a shitstorm, I'm finding it more interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who else finds fucking somebody in their marital bed really horny? I get a real rush from going round to guys' houses to use their bed. It's nothing to do with me wanting their husband for anything other than sex, it's just delightfully naughty.

Today my bed, not used for sex for YEARS finally came into use. Man I'm pleased about that! For the record I'm married amd playing with consent.

I'll get my coat. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh dear what a shitstorm I started by mentioning morality

It's not a shitstorm, I'm finding it more interesting. "

Me too but hoping it doesn't descend into chaos like most threads seem to!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is the issue not just that people use the word 'morals' as though it is a universal, objective thing, rather than something that is totally subjective dependent on your own _iew of the world. We can tend towards common positions such as pretty much everyone believes killing somebody to be immoral. But then there are degrees even within something which looks as cut and dried as that. Someone might believe killing someone on the battlefield is moral, others would still see it as immoral.

So when somoene says "that's immoral" all they can ever be saying is "that doesn't fit with my own code of morality".

"

I started a thread a while back called universalism v relativism (or something like that). You should give it a read.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is the issue not just that people use the word 'morals' as though it is a universal, objective thing, rather than something that is totally subjective dependent on your own _iew of the world. We can tend towards common positions such as pretty much everyone believes killing somebody to be immoral. But then there are degrees even within something which looks as cut and dried as that. Someone might believe killing someone on the battlefield is moral, others would still see it as immoral.

So when somoene says "that's immoral" all they can ever be saying is "that doesn't fit with my own code of morality".

I started a thread a while back called universalism v relativism (or something like that). You should give it a read. "

Will hunt it down

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is the issue not just that people use the word 'morals' as though it is a universal, objective thing, rather than something that is totally subjective dependent on your own _iew of the world. We can tend towards common positions such as pretty much everyone believes killing somebody to be immoral. But then there are degrees even within something which looks as cut and dried as that. Someone might believe killing someone on the battlefield is moral, others would still see it as immoral.

So when somoene says "that's immoral" all they can ever be saying is "that doesn't fit with my own code of morality".

I started a thread a while back called universalism v relativism (or something like that). You should give it a read. "

I'll have a look for it. I think a lot of guilt about sex comes from society's moralistic stand. We are reinforcing it by using the word moral when talking about sex acts. According to the Church we're all going to Hell. (I'm an atheist so I'm ok)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh dear what a shitstorm I started by mentioning morality

It's not a shitstorm, I'm finding it more interesting.

Me too but hoping it doesn't descend into chaos like most threads seem to!"

I like to raise questions. I'm not judging anyone,not even the OP. We should be able to discuss things like adults without taking it personal.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh dear what a shitstorm I started by mentioning morality "
hey I said it as well no-one on fab is moral sorry you aren't don't even bother to argue whoever you are ,theirs a difference having a harmless fantasy/desire which is sexy and turns you on and others ,the problem with this one is it was his best mate and his best mates pregnant wife and he doesn't see any wrong in it ,had his best mate lucky man that he is to have a wife and mate like him found them or had the sexual act caused a miscarriage it would have been such a sad mess at a time that should be the happiest for the mother and father of that imminent child ,tragic either way

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh dear what a shitstorm I started by mentioning morality

It's not a shitstorm, I'm finding it more interesting.

Me too but hoping it doesn't descend into chaos like most threads seem to!

I like to raise questions. I'm not judging anyone,not even the OP. We should be able to discuss things like adults without taking it personal."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't call people out on their morals because mine aren't squeaky clean and I don't like feeling like a hypocrite. If I were a Puritan I'd be fine.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh dear what a shitstorm I started by mentioning morality

It's not a shitstorm, I'm finding it more interesting.

Me too but hoping it doesn't descend into chaos like most threads seem to!

I like to raise questions. I'm not judging anyone,not even the OP. We should be able to discuss things like adults without taking it personal.

"

So long as it doesn't get made personal people should be able to discuss any question really.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

I have morals.

Where your sexual activity is concerned society will say you don't. We all have morals of some kind.

Some sections of society will say I don't. Some sections of society would consider me immoral because I had sex before I was married, some because I wear low cut tops as long as I can look myself in the eye in the morning in the mirror I don't care. I think applying morality to consensual

sexual activity is something that should stop.

By specifying "consensual" you are already applying morality.

It is inevitable. It's just that everyone works with their own moral compass or philosophy. It's just a shame more people aren't internally consistent in their moral beliefs.

-Courtney"

Yes I am aren't I. Blimey that's made me think!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

someone above mentioned Kant, and in a nutshell- he would ask the question - what would happen if everyone did this?

If it's happiness all round then morally good, if not- it's not.

Isn't the OP post more a classic example of sociopath?

Though I believe sociopath/psychopath ate now joined under one name now. Kind of higher level single disorder which covers both

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who else finds fucking somebody in their marital bed really horny? I get a real rush from going round to guys' houses to use their bed. It's nothing to do with me wanting their husband for anything other than sex, it's just delightfully naughty.

Today my bed, not used for sex for YEARS finally came into use. Man I'm pleased about that! For the record I'm married amd playing with consent.

I'll get my coat. "

and I'll close the door behind you.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo


"

So when somoene says "that's immoral" all they can ever be saying is "that doesn't fit with my own code of morality".

"

This

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo


"Oh dear what a shitstorm I started by mentioning morality "

There is a difference between a debate and a shit storm

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

it's a good read

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

sorry that's bollocks..

to assume that people who on the whole one would hope have made a decision where consent and respect for their OH if applicable and themselves individually are without 'morals' is twaddle..

you are only speaking for yourself..

I think you'll find that morals are dictated by society,and sex is one of the big moral issues. I may have more morals than you by society's standards. You may think different. "

try and be consistent you either have no morals as you said or you do have some..?

society..?

would that be the church, media, establishment, one's neighbours etc..?

none of whom have the right to judge let alone be the arbiter re 'standards'

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire

For me its not just about the sex act, its the fact that your not just stabbing somebody in the back but twisting the knife in as well. I'm not sure how I'd react if my partner had an affair behind my back as its never happened but I damn well know how I'd react if I found out he had been doing it in our bed.

There's doing stuff and there's taking the complete piss

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By *eryboredmaleMan  over a year ago

peterborough

its really disrespectful ... we are in an open relationship and can play where we like all except home, thats kind of the place for us and the kids. id never swap that out for sex.

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By *ancs MinxWoman  over a year ago

Burnley


"Peoples lack of morals never fail to astound me fucking someone married and doing it in their marital bed is frankly disgusting behaviour.

"

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

I do wonder 'why' someone would want to... the 'thrill'.... what thrill? , do they want to be caught? and they can see the hurt firsthand? is there self worth so low that the pain inflicted upon others, make them feel better about themselves? have they been hurt before?

it's really interesting 'why'.

but I am not asking anyone to justify 'why', because it is none of my business.

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

their*, not there.

phewwww

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

Not for me to judge what you chose to do or what turns you on.

However I could not think of anything worse. Complete lack of respect for the other person in his life. I think it speaks volumes about the character of a person. Absolute turn off for me. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"their*, not there.

phewwww"

Good job you spotted that, View. Your brain would have subliminally itched until it was corrected!

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By *inkxRabbit OP   Woman  over a year ago

Mostly in GU24


"Is the issue not just that people use the word 'morals' as though it is a universal, objective thing, rather than something that is totally subjective dependent on your own _iew of the world. We can tend towards common positions such as pretty much everyone believes killing somebody to be immoral. But then there are degrees even within something which looks as cut and dried as that. Someone might believe killing someone on the battlefield is moral, others would still see it as immoral.

So when somoene says "that's immoral" all they can ever be saying is "that doesn't fit with my own code of morality".

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"WTF this thread just shows if you have a flange it's ok but God forbid you had a willy and put up a thread, if you hate your husband that much then leave so that he can move on with his life...."

And the poor bastard can be happy!

I agree with ruggers, I can't believe how this thread has carried on without needing to be shut down by the mods!

Does that mean us girls are men hating on here if we give a fem an easier time? Shame ain't it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

I have morals.

Where your sexual activity is concerned society will say you don't. We all have morals of some kind.

Some sections of society will say I don't. Some sections of society would consider me immoral because I had sex before I was married, some because I wear low cut tops as long as I can look myself in the eye in the morning in the mirror I don't care. I think applying morality to consensual

sexual activity is something that should stop.

By specifying "consensual" you are already applying morality.

It is inevitable. It's just that everyone works with their own moral compass or philosophy. It's just a shame more people aren't internally consistent in their moral beliefs.

-Courtney

Giving consent does not negate the morality of it. You don't decide what is moraly right. I'm trying to challenge the use of the word morals which is quite often thrown around on here when certain sexual activities are mentioned. Is there a sliding scale of morality we subconsciously apply to certain acts and people? My friend says jokingly that I have no morals,she knows all about my sex life. I hit back with she's the one who had a bit on the side for years. Which of us would society seem to have the lower moral standards?

But this is exactly what I mean. Giving consent can 100% change the morality of a sexual act. It is the reason why beastiality and child porn are deemed wrong. Now, how we decided that consent is the important factor is the more interesting question. For that, you would have to question your very moral philosophy. Is morality a priori, as Kant would have us believe? Or is it consequentialist, as Mills would argue? And there are many more.

There are other things that are not moral questions, correct. Then there are beliefs where people hold two morality inconsistent _iewpoints (this happens very often with sexual activity).

But again, you will likely disagree with someone who holds a different basic moral philosophy to your own.

-Courtney"

Just returned to this thread. Courtney this is really insightful. I really enjoy this type of discussion.

Mrs. X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

sorry that's bollocks..

to assume that people who on the whole one would hope have made a decision where consent and respect for their OH if applicable and themselves individually are without 'morals' is twaddle..

you are only speaking for yourself..

I think you'll find that morals are dictated by society,and sex is one of the big moral issues. I may have more morals than you by society's standards. You may think different.

try and be consistent you either have no morals as you said or you do have some..?

society..?

would that be the church, media, establishment, one's neighbours etc..?

none of whom have the right to judge let alone be the arbiter re 'standards'"

I'm not talking from a personal _iew point. I thought everyone understood that and I don't remember saying I have no morals. Society is everyone isn't it but from my understanding it's religion that dictates morals?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Let us be honest for a minute. None of us have morals,some people have a different level of morality than others. No spouting off about morals when you drop your drawers for someone who isn't your partner. Or pants,let's not leave the men out of this. We're all going to hell

sorry that's bollocks..

to assume that people who on the whole one would hope have made a decision where consent and respect for their OH if applicable and themselves individually are without 'morals' is twaddle..

you are only speaking for yourself..

I think you'll find that morals are dictated by society,and sex is one of the big moral issues. I may have more morals than you by society's standards. You may think different.

try and be consistent you either have no morals as you said or you do have some..?

society..?

would that be the church, media, establishment, one's neighbours etc..?

none of whom have the right to judge let alone be the arbiter re 'standards'

I'm not talking from a personal _iew point. I thought everyone understood that and I don't remember saying I have no morals. Society is everyone isn't it but from my understanding it's religion that dictates morals?

"

your 'none of us have morals' sentence above lead me to believe what you said was what you meant..?

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I just love that guys do it behind their wives' back. Then knowing she's got into it later none the wiser. Is it bad that I never feel guilty, whether it's mine or somebody else's?

It's not for me. It's one thing for a bloke to be cheating on his wife... the reasons for that are none of my business but it shows a complete lack of respect for her if he's bringing other women home to her bed. "

This for me too.

My bed is my sanctuary, my safety. I can accept having sex with others but not in my/our most comforting place.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Personally I think it shows a complete lack of respect to ask someone you're intending to fuck into the marital home regardless if the bed is used it not."

Yet the number of messages I get from men inviting me to their place when their wife is absent suggests they just don't see it like that.

Some have had parties in their marital home when the wife is away.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I met a woman from here at her home her profile and messages stated single no kids after ten seconds in the house i was left with no doubt the she had both a husband and two kids due to the wedding and family portrait hanging in the hallway

Made my excuses and turn straight around and out the door disgusting behavior"

But the question we all want to know........

Did she Leave you a verification?

You did meet her

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"Personally I think it shows a complete lack of respect to ask someone you're intending to fuck into the marital home regardless if the bed is used it not.

Yet the number of messages I get from men inviting me to their place when their wife is absent suggests they just don't see it like that.

Some have had parties in their marital home when the wife is away.

"

Blimey! People aren't nice to one another are they.

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh

Never mind morals... it's just about being a decent person. There's nothing decent about inviting strangers into the bed you share with the person you chose to spend your life with. If you despise them then do something about it. Be decent. To yourself and to them.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I really don't understand the loathing expressed for partners that must once have been loved. Nor the "thrill" of inflicting some sort of slight on someone has never met.

If you despise your partner so much then give up the marital bed.

If you despise others so much that you get a thrill from leaving your sweat on their sheets whilst fucking their husband/wife/partner just have a think about how you would feel if some random stranger despised you so much.

The gender of the OP is immaterial to me and my responses.

I don't judge why married people seek sex elsewhere, the reasons are often complex and I know enough where consent is implied and even explicit. However, I have no qualms about be judgmental about being downright rude and openly disrespectful to someone you share your life with and those that are happy to be complicit in that.

I wonder what would happen if the stranger in the home helped themselves to some of the property? Surely it's just as much of a thrill?

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