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Anyone seen the DM cover for tomorrow?
Now that the election is fought and won the right wing are turning on Cameron like nobody's business. They want an 'out' leader for the EU Ref.
They want him gone. |
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"If it means an EU exit I'm all up for it  "
I doubt it'll make a difference, most people already know where they stand.
Cameron's biggest mistake was to announce he would stand down before 2020, now the right-wing media want to push him out. |
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over a year ago
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"Oh fuck, extreme left and right wings. Great.
Sensible, boring centrist party anyone?"
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Actually I think right and left wing politics works fine as long as there balanced.
I think it's this wishy washy middle ground politics that's ruining the bloody country |
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"Oh fuck, extreme left and right wings. Great.
Sensible, boring centrist party anyone?"
There's not much left wing - the labour party and lib Dems had moved to the right,so there's been massive overlap. Corbyn is just a leader and it remains to be seen where the party goes - it's gone nowhere in a week.
And the lib dems have almost no MPs, so almost no power. |
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The Conservatives are already extremely right wing, doing Margaret Thatcher's wet dream fulfillment. They've had even more extreme lurkers and power brokers behind the scenes for ever. Cameron will likely just be used as a fall boy for something. Be afraid if Boris Johnson gets close - he's ultra extreme right wing. |
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"The Conservatives are already extremely right wing, doing Margaret Thatcher's wet dream fulfillment. They've had even more extreme lurkers and power brokers behind the scenes for ever. Cameron will likely just be used as a fall boy for something. Be afraid if Boris Johnson gets close - he's ultra extreme right wing."
The Tories always destroy themselves from the inside.
I'll never forget Boris comparing men together like 2 dogs together, people like that don't change. |
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"If it means an EU exit I'm all up for it
I doubt it'll make a difference, most people already know where they stand.
Cameron's biggest mistake was to announce he would stand down before 2020, now the right-wing media want to push him out. "
A recent poll shown on sky news last week showed the EU question was now neck and neck, so it's everything to play for. |
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"Oh fuck, extreme left and right wings. Great.
Sensible, boring centrist party anyone?"
 Bring back Nick Clegg, all is forgiven. Seriously though, I'd much rather a couple of "wishy washy centre ground" parties with policies I'd actually like than a bunch of parties at the extremes with policies that horrify me. When did centrist become such a dirty word? |
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"Oh fuck, extreme left and right wings. Great.
Sensible, boring centrist party anyone?.
Actually I think right and left wing politics works fine as long as there balanced.
I think it's this wishy washy middle ground politics that's ruining the bloody country"
I disagree. It's quite easy to come up with simplistic solutions to complex problems that appeal to the populist extremes on either the right or left but normally just tend to make things worse. It's a lot harder to work out real solutions to the problems based on a balanced, moderate and thought through approach. Especially as the actual solution is not normal particularly popular with people only slightly committed to a left or right wing agenda. I'd have thought as a committed environmentalist you'd have realised this simply truth already. |
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"The Conservatives are already extremely right wing, doing Margaret Thatcher's wet dream fulfillment. They've had even more extreme lurkers and power brokers behind the scenes for ever. Cameron will likely just be used as a fall boy for something. Be afraid if Boris Johnson gets close - he's ultra extreme right wing."
That's almost laughable. Just because they're more right wing than you doesn't make them extreme right wing. While I've no doubt there are extreme right wingers in the Tory party to describe Cameron as extreme is almost as daft as saying Tony Blair was extreme left wing. If Cameron is extreme right wing where in your political spectrum does the EDL or BNP sit. Get some prospective please. |
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"Oh fuck, extreme left and right wings. Great.
Sensible, boring centrist party anyone?
Bring back Nick Clegg, all is forgiven. Seriously though, I'd much rather a couple of "wishy washy centre ground" parties with policies I'd actually like than a bunch of parties at the extremes with policies that horrify me. When did centrist become such a dirty word?"
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
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EDL and BNP are a more extreme right wing. That doesn't prevent the current crop of awful Tories from being extremely right wing. And let's not kid our selves, there are more than a minority of Tory MPs who would voice opinions in line with EDL and BNP thinking if they weren't smart enough to keep their moths shut.
A moderate, centre right wing party wouldn't be hell bent on the ideological path of the destruction of the state, for example, as our current government are. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh fuck, extreme left and right wings. Great.
Sensible, boring centrist party anyone?.
Actually I think right and left wing politics works fine as long as there balanced.
I think it's this wishy washy middle ground politics that's ruining the bloody country
I disagree. It's quite easy to come up with simplistic solutions to complex problems that appeal to the populist extremes on either the right or left but normally just tend to make things worse. It's a lot harder to work out real solutions to the problems based on a balanced, moderate and thought through approach. Especially as the actual solution is not normal particularly popular with people only slightly committed to a left or right wing agenda. I'd have thought as a committed environmentalist you'd have realised this simply truth already."
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Populist politicians are centrists?... There appealing to the majority.
The trouble with centre ground politicans is that there the type who don't like upsetting people, that's why there centrists, and the problem with that concept is they don't ever actually fix long term big problems.(it fears them to tell the majority something they know they won't like)
Your right though, as an environmentalist I can tell you from campaign experience, your much more likely to get help from a left wing or right wing politican than a centrist.
You only need to look at climate change to see the centrist are doing fuck all to solve a very very big problem, whereas the far right and the far left push the agenda much more |
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"EDL and BNP are a more extreme right wing. That doesn't prevent the current crop of awful Tories from being extremely right wing. And let's not kid our selves, there are more than a minority of Tory MPs who would voice opinions in line with EDL and BNP thinking if they weren't smart enough to keep their moths shut.
A moderate, centre right wing party wouldn't be hell bent on the ideological path of the destruction of the state, for example, as our current government are."
Reduction of the state is not the same thing as destruction of the state. You seem to have a problem with distinguishing between those that have a different opinion to yours and extremists.
In what way is the current government actually doing anything that would actually destroy the state? |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
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"EDL and BNP are a more extreme right wing. That doesn't prevent the current crop of awful Tories from being extremely right wing. And let's not kid our selves, there are more than a minority of Tory MPs who would voice opinions in line with EDL and BNP thinking if they weren't smart enough to keep their moths shut.
A moderate, centre right wing party wouldn't be hell bent on the ideological path of the destruction of the state, for example, as our current government are.
Reduction of the state is not the same thing as destruction of the state. You seem to have a problem with distinguishing between those that have a different opinion to yours and extremists.
In what way is the current government actually doing anything that would actually destroy the state?"
If the goal of your government is to divert money from the poorest in society to the richest, you set up the perfect conditions for eventual societal collapse into revolution or anarchy. Either of those would perfectly meet the definition of destruction of the state.
As you will disagree that diverting money from the poorest in society to the richest is what the Tory government's goal is, your opinion on this is moot. |
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"EDL and BNP are a more extreme right wing. That doesn't prevent the current crop of awful Tories from being extremely right wing. And let's not kid our selves, there are more than a minority of Tory MPs who would voice opinions in line with EDL and BNP thinking if they weren't smart enough to keep their moths shut.
A moderate, centre right wing party wouldn't be hell bent on the ideological path of the destruction of the state, for example, as our current government are.
Reduction of the state is not the same thing as destruction of the state. You seem to have a problem with distinguishing between those that have a different opinion to yours and extremists.
In what way is the current government actually doing anything that would actually destroy the state?
If the goal of your government is to divert money from the poorest in society to the richest, you set up the perfect conditions for eventual societal collapse into revolution or anarchy. Either of those would perfectly meet the definition of destruction of the state.
As you will disagree that diverting money from the poorest in society to the richest is what the Tory government's goal is, your opinion on this is moot."
It would seem that any opinion that is not the same as yours is either wrong, ignorant or extreme so therefore is moot and can be ignored. You don't exactly leave yourself open to rational debate and reasoned argument do you? |
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