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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Guys and gals can you help me out please? I've got a Fiat and just had an hours journey so engine was hot. No idea if that's relevant or not 
Just noticed I've got water appears to be water dripping from the rear corner of the car by the rear tyre. Any ideas what it could be? |
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Dab it with your finger and sniff it. At that end of the car could well be fuel so you could have a damaged tank, pipe or something simple like a blocked fuel filter. I'd work out what the liquid is first though  |
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Ok fook me I think we have a problem Huston!
It's water for sure. I Just couldnt work our where it's coming from and now I know. The brake light has about 3 inches of water in it and condensation higher up in the whole light section. Fuck fuck fuck.
It's literally just had mot too. Isn't that dangerous? How the hell has that happened? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok fook me I think we have a problem Huston!
It's water for sure. I Just couldnt work our where it's coming from and now I know. The brake light has about 3 inches of water in it and condensation higher up in the whole light section. Fuck fuck fuck.
It's literally just had mot too. Isn't that dangerous? How the hell has that happened? "
It's a Fiat lol that's how it happened |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok fook me I think we have a problem Huston!
It's water for sure. I Just couldnt work our where it's coming from and now I know. The brake light has about 3 inches of water in it and condensation higher up in the whole light section. Fuck fuck fuck.
It's literally just had mot too. Isn't that dangerous? How the hell has that happened?
It's a Fiat lol that's how it happened "
would never happen with a Roll's  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I had a fiat punto. Total money pit. Gearbox broke needed 3 springs to repair it. the springs were £100 each. I got rid in the end bits kept dropping off it and going wrong. |
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By *horltzMan
over a year ago
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"Any ideas how I get rid of the water?
Yeah Yeah fiat. Fix it again tomorrow. Heard it all before 
A small drill hole in the bottom of your brake light , scrap yard for the rest  "
If they'll take it of course |
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At a guess you'll probably have to remove that light cluster and tip it up so that the water can get out. As for how it got in there, have you had any driving rain where you are recently? Maybe your car was simply parked at the wrong angle to driving rain and it got in like that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had a fiat punto. Total money pit. Gearbox broke needed 3 springs to repair it. the springs were £100 each. I got rid in the end bits kept dropping off it and going wrong. "
Springs in a gearbox? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I had a fiat punto. Total money pit. Gearbox broke needed 3 springs to repair it. the springs were £100 each. I got rid in the end bits kept dropping off it and going wrong. "
Same here. Long line of problems but until I can afford another car I'm stuck with it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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As for the OP. Water in light clusters is very common on lots of cars. It's often caused by stones damaging the lenses. Pop the cluster out and use some clear silicone sealant. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"At a guess you'll probably have to remove that light cluster and tip it up so that the water can get out. As for how it got in there, have you had any driving rain where you are recently? Maybe your car was simply parked at the wrong angle to driving rain and it got in like that."
Is it dangerous the way it is?
Thanks for your help by the way |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"At a guess you'll probably have to remove that light cluster and tip it up so that the water can get out. As for how it got in there, have you had any driving rain where you are recently? Maybe your car was simply parked at the wrong angle to driving rain and it got in like that.
Is it dangerous the way it is?
Thanks for your help by the way "
I hit the wrong icon sort |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"As for the OP. Water in light clusters is very common on lots of cars. It's often caused by stones damaging the lenses. Pop the cluster out and use some clear silicone sealant."
Phew thanks mate
It puts my mind at rest, cheers |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At a guess you'll probably have to remove that light cluster and tip it up so that the water can get out. As for how it got in there, have you had any driving rain where you are recently? Maybe your car was simply parked at the wrong angle to driving rain and it got in like that.
Is it dangerous the way it is?
Thanks for your help by the way "
It's not dangerous but you could start blowing bulbs Sao best to get it sorted. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had a fiat punto. Total money pit. Gearbox broke needed 3 springs to repair it. the springs were £100 each. I got rid in the end bits kept dropping off it and going wrong.
Springs in a gearbox?"
Didn't mean springs I meant the 2 cables been a long day |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Ignore the critics too. Most people don't realise that their Vauxhall's are actually Fiat's and some Ford's have Fiat engines.
Fiat is the world's biggest car company and build some very good cars. |
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"I had a fiat punto. Total money pit. Gearbox broke needed 3 springs to repair it. the springs were £100 each. I got rid in the end bits kept dropping off it and going wrong.
Springs in a gearbox?
Didn't mean springs I meant the 2 cables been a long day "
Selector cables are about £20 and take an hour to fit. Whoever quoted you was ripping you off. |
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"At a guess you'll probably have to remove that light cluster and tip it up so that the water can get out. As for how it got in there, have you had any driving rain where you are recently? Maybe your car was simply parked at the wrong angle to driving rain and it got in like that.
Is it dangerous the way it is?
Thanks for your help by the way
It's not dangerous but you could start blowing bulbs Sao best to get it sorted."
I'd also use water dispersant on any electrical connectors that have water ingress then splodge some silicone grease into them for good measure too |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"At a guess you'll probably have to remove that light cluster and tip it up so that the water can get out. As for how it got in there, have you had any driving rain where you are recently? Maybe your car was simply parked at the wrong angle to driving rain and it got in like that.
Is it dangerous the way it is?
Thanks for your help by the way
It's not dangerous but you could start blowing bulbs Sao best to get it sorted."
That would explain why I'm regularly having bulbs blowing
Fucking easy when you know how lol. Thanks again mate |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had a fiat punto. Total money pit. Gearbox broke needed 3 springs to repair it. the springs were £100 each. I got rid in the end bits kept dropping off it and going wrong.
Springs in a gearbox?
Didn't mean springs I meant the 2 cables been a long day
Selector cables are about £20 and take an hour to fit. Whoever quoted you was ripping you off."
I'm not bothered couldn't wait to get the car gone and I would've fixed it myself had I not had a tumour growing on the bone on my arm. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At a guess you'll probably have to remove that light cluster and tip it up so that the water can get out. As for how it got in there, have you had any driving rain where you are recently? Maybe your car was simply parked at the wrong angle to driving rain and it got in like that.
Is it dangerous the way it is?
Thanks for your help by the way
It's not dangerous but you could start blowing bulbs Sao best to get it sorted.
I'd also use water dispersant on any electrical connectors that have water ingress then splodge some silicone grease into them for good measure too "
Good point. Servisol Super 10 is about the best stuff to use. Don't use WD40 as it can damage the plastic bulb holder |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had a fiat punto. Total money pit. Gearbox broke needed 3 springs to repair it. the springs were £100 each. I got rid in the end bits kept dropping off it and going wrong.
Springs in a gearbox?
Didn't mean springs I meant the 2 cables been a long day
Selector cables are about £20 and take an hour to fit. Whoever quoted you was ripping you off.
I'm not bothered couldn't wait to get the car gone and I would've fixed it myself had I not had a tumour growing on the bone on my arm. "
Sorry to hear that.
Fiat's are great little cars. I've had loads over the years. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's literally just had mot too. Isn't that dangerous? How the hell has that happened? "
Have you put it through a car wash or worse a jet wash?
As long as it is below the power connections the lights would work as normal so no worries on the MOT side, as already said take the light cluster off and empty it, look for any misplaced rubber gaskets.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I regularly jet wash it at work. I assume that's not a good idea then  "
be more careful where you point the jet, but that is almost certainly the cause of the problem. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I regularly jet wash it at work. I assume that's not a good idea then "
Nothing wrong with using a jet wash unless you're using it 2 inches away from the bodywork and keeping it in the same position for ages. The problem can arise from certain chemicals used by hand car washes, TFR being the main culprit. If it's poorly mixed it can destroy rubber seals and wreck the clear coat on your paint.
I own a bespoke vehicle detailing business and I wouldn't use the stuff in a million years. That's also why I charge more than £5... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I regularly jet wash it at work. I assume that's not a good idea then
be more careful where you point the jet, but that is almost certainly the cause of the problem. "
It makes sense. I'm an idiot I admit |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I regularly jet wash it at work. I assume that's not a good idea then
Nothing wrong with using a jet wash unless you're using it 2 inches away from the bodywork and keeping it in the same position for ages. The problem can arise from certain chemicals used by hand car washes, TFR being the main culprit. If it's poorly mixed it can destroy rubber seals and wreck the clear coat on your paint.
I own a bespoke vehicle detailing business and I wouldn't use the stuff in a million years. That's also why I charge more than £5... "
Fair play. Thanks |
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"I had a fiat punto. Total money pit. Gearbox broke needed 3 springs to repair it. the springs were £100 each. I got rid in the end bits kept dropping off it and going wrong.
Springs in a gearbox?"
spring in light cluster by the sounds of it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had a fiat punto. Total money pit. Gearbox broke needed 3 springs to repair it. the springs were £100 each. I got rid in the end bits kept dropping off it and going wrong.
Springs in a gearbox? spring in light cluster by the sounds of it "
I have actually rebuilt 2 minis I knew what I meant but lack of sleep plus I was thinking about something else at the time made me type the word "springs" can't all be perfect |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had a fiat punto. Total money pit. Gearbox broke needed 3 springs to repair it. the springs were £100 each. I got rid in the end bits kept dropping off it and going wrong.
Springs in a gearbox? spring in light cluster by the sounds of it
I have actually rebuilt 2 minis I knew what I meant but lack of sleep plus I was thinking about something else at the time made me type the word "springs" can't all be perfect "
It's only a bit of ribbing. Much respect to you for rebuilding those Mini's.
My daughter is currently training to be a motor mechanic. Because it's such a male orientated world she set out to beat all the lads on her course. 6 days in and she's already changing head gaskets and top of her class while the lads are all still trying to figure out how to change brake pads.
This, in part, May have partly been down to me, she's worked on cars with me her entire life.
Anyway, I didn't mean anything with my comment. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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All makes have quirks but if they're maintained properly most never give trouble. Notice the maintained bit
I've seen a fiesta still running without ever having an oil change from new. I'm wary of changing the oil at all now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All makes have quirks but if they're maintained properly most never give trouble. Notice the maintained bit
I've seen a fiesta still running without ever having an oil change from new. I'm wary of changing the oil at all now. "
Yeah, regular maintenance and servicing is the key. Also spitting wear on certain parts early will save a lot of hassles (suspension bushes in the case of my Alfa as I'm sure you're aware ).
I wouldn't change the oil in that Fezzer if I were you, it has trouble written all over it... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes it's prob sludged to fuck in there and will dislodge it, mine's just done 6000mi and the oil is still clear!"
I do mine every 6k or every 6 months. Coolant every 12 months and grease the suspension bushes every week!... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Well used to but when it runs out clear after 6000mi I thought it was a waste.
So just change the filter every 5k.
Toyota red coolant 3years, fully syn gear oil 25k, 4+ brake fluid every year. Nearly 200k and cold compressions 190, 185, 195, 190 psi.
Might upgrade all fluids to Motul Esters next time. Overkill but this prevents so meny problems long term |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well used to but when it runs out clear after 6000mi I thought it was a waste.
So just change the filter every 5k.
Toyota red coolant 3years, fully syn gear oil 25k, 4+ brake fluid every year. Nearly 200k and cold compressions 190, 185, 195, 190 psi.
Might upgrade all fluids to Motul Esters next time. Overkill but this prevents so meny problems long term"
Ester based oils are definitely a good idea. I did my gearbox oil in December when I had to change the clutch (release bearing tore itself apart). It made quite a difference if I'm honest, especially when it was cold. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They're expensive to buy but much less than a new gearbox or engine "
Definitely. Although nothing helps the Vauxhall M32 gearbox. They're just made of chocolate... |
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"Dab it with your finger and sniff it. At that end of the car could well be fuel so you could have a damaged tank, pipe or something simple like a blocked fuel filter. I'd work out what the liquid is first though "
Why do people do this, you don't know what the liquid is so you stick you finger in it then sniff it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Dab it with your finger and sniff it. At that end of the car could well be fuel so you could have a damaged tank, pipe or something simple like a blocked fuel filter. I'd work out what the liquid is first though
Why do people do this, you don't know what the liquid is so you stick you finger in it then sniff it."
Because you can quickly find out what it is and rule out what it isn't. There's no real harm in it unless you try drinking whatever it is. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok fook me I think we have a problem Huston!
It's water for sure. I Just couldnt work our where it's coming from and now I know. The brake light has about 3 inches of water in it and condensation higher up in the whole light section. Fuck fuck fuck.
It's literally just had mot too. Isn't that dangerous? How the hell has that happened? "
Got a crack in the light. Order another off ebay. Easy to change |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ignore the critics too. Most people don't realise that their Vauxhall's are actually Fiat's and some Ford's have Fiat engines.
Fiat is the world's biggest car company and build some very good cars."
GM is the largest automotive conglomerate, Toyota 2nd, Fiat-Chrysler s.pa is 3rd |
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Splitting hairs but look under a new Corsa and eqv Fiat and you'll notice a lot of similarity. New Ford KA is a Fiat 500 in drag diwn to Fiat part numbers |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ignore the critics too. Most people don't realise that their Vauxhall's are actually Fiat's and some Ford's have Fiat engines.
Fiat is the world's biggest car company and build some very good cars.
GM is the largest automotive conglomerate, Toyota 2nd, Fiat-Chrysler s.pa is 3rd "
Didn't Fiat buy GM?
That's why most GM group cars have Fiat dirived engines. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Splitting hairs but look under a new Corsa and eqv Fiat and you'll notice a lot of similarity. New Ford KA is a Fiat 500 in drag diwn to Fiat part numbers"
Most Vauxhall's share Fiat floor plans and engines dating back to the Fiat Tipo! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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All sorted. One of the fellas at work popped out the light and emptied it. It turns out the seal was broken so used some silicon on it and it's as good as new. Thanks to all who contributed! |
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"not a good idea to jet wash a fiat, as its not a pretty sight when bits fall off it. but as one comment said vauxhalls can be half fiat i had a corsa van that had fiat engine"
Absolute rubbish! It's perfectly fine to jet wash any car unless you're a total idiot and hold the lance 2" from the bodywork. Also Fiat and Alfa Romeo were the first manufacturers to use galvanised metals in the construction of their vehicles and they're exceedingly good at it (the jokes about rusty Italian cars show just how little people know).
Like I said earlier in the thread reputations seem to stick when it comes to cars, it's not 1979 anymore and the Italians have come a very long way. The German car manufacturers could learn a thing or two from them rather than relying on an outraged reputation for reliability, covering up massive faults and producing utter crap cars.
Hopefully the impending court case against VW in the US will get the ball rolling... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What Mrwho said!
German cars dominate the market, especially the VAG cars, personally I wouldn't go near one, I've got friends/family that have owned everything from a 1.9 A3 to a Porsche 911 and every single one has had problems - mainly gearboxes but other things too, turbos and the infamous check engine lights
We can all agree that the ford KA is the king of the "rot boxes" though
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What Mrwho said!
German cars dominate the market, especially the VAG cars, personally I wouldn't go near one, I've got friends/family that have owned everything from a 1.9 A3 to a Porsche 911 and every single one has had problems - mainly gearboxes but other things too, turbos and the infamous check engine lights
We can all agree that the ford KA is the king of the "rot boxes" though
P.s
Go jap "
The Ford KA is notorious for rotting from the fuel filler cap outwards. The 2002 Focus had its fair share of problems with rotten sills too. Ford cut corners with the quality of their metals and they suffered for it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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ive a fiat punto - look up you tube on how to take off light covering - i did to change a light - should have a little tool in your spare wheel to undo a doobry wotsity thing - its a bit fiddly but ok - might be able to see where water is getting in and therefore let it out and seal up - just a thought |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Let's get one thing straight 
The fiat rot box was a thing of the '70s
Fiat sold Russia the tooling plant for the 124 to them (which we know as the Lada)
They couldn't make the payments and sold back "steel" as compensation
So little surprise it was inferior
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"Most Audi and VW have a drain under the battery in the scuttle. These block and allow water to penetrate the cabin from high up the bulkhead."
Much like the Vauxhall van (Vivaro I think) that drained water directly onto the fuel injectors corroding them to the head. Genius bit of design work that... |
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Kind of o\s went about 12mth, was skint so didn't argue too much but the garage used at the time, said would be ok with just one,
I have always thought should be done as pair,
Thinking of changing the car next year though so not a huge concern
And it's fren(stop laughing)ch
Haha |
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"Kind of o\s went about 12mth, was skint so didn't argue too much but the garage used at the time, said would be ok with just one,
I have always thought should be done as pair,
Thinking of changing the car next year though so not a huge concern
And it's fren(stop laughing)ch
Haha"
Yeah, ideally they should be done as a pair but if the other side is only a year old it shouldn't make a huge difference. |
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"Kind of o\s went about 12mth, was skint so didn't argue too much but the garage used at the time, said would be ok with just one,
I have always thought should be done as pair,
Thinking of changing the car next year though so not a huge concern
And it's fren(stop laughing)ch
Haha
Yeah, ideally they should be done as a pair but if the other side is only a year old it shouldn't make a huge difference."
Cool, cheers mate |
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"not a good idea to jet wash a fiat, as its not a pretty sight when bits fall off it. but as one comment said vauxhalls can be half fiat i had a corsa van that had fiat engine
Absolute rubbish! It's perfectly fine to jet wash any car unless you're a total idiot and hold the lance 2" from the bodywork. Also Fiat and Alfa Romeo were the first manufacturers to use galvanised metals in the construction of their vehicles and they're exceedingly good at it (the jokes about rusty Italian cars show just how little people know).
Like I said earlier in the thread reputations seem to stick when it comes to cars, it's not 1979 anymore and the Italians have come a very long way. The German car manufacturers could learn a thing or two from them rather than relying on an outraged reputation for reliability, covering up massive faults and producing utter crap cars.
Hopefully the impending court case against VW in the US will get the ball rolling..."
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Actually if my memory is correct it was the Audi 100 , I had one many moons ago!
I don't but the common myths with car manufactures either, personally I've always found the French do fantastic diesel engines but lousy petrol engines, early bm,s and Mercedes were bullet proof but expensive! Audi's were overly complicated, Italians were pretty but thoughtless (same could be said for the French) the Japanese were something peculiar utterly devoid of any "class" but built amazingly well, also built by people with very small hands, so be careful with fiddly things!
Americans were just appalling in every way and sense, truly appalling....
I do have a thing for old Saab's and Citroen's which I'm seeking physiatric help for |
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"not a good idea to jet wash a fiat, as its not a pretty sight when bits fall off it. but as one comment said vauxhalls can be half fiat i had a corsa van that had fiat engine
Absolute rubbish! It's perfectly fine to jet wash any car unless you're a total idiot and hold the lance 2" from the bodywork. Also Fiat and Alfa Romeo were the first manufacturers to use galvanised metals in the construction of their vehicles and they're exceedingly good at it (the jokes about rusty Italian cars show just how little people know).
Like I said earlier in the thread reputations seem to stick when it comes to cars, it's not 1979 anymore and the Italians have come a very long way. The German car manufacturers could learn a thing or two from them rather than relying on an outraged reputation for reliability, covering up massive faults and producing utter crap cars.
Hopefully the impending court case against VW in the US will get the ball rolling....
Actually if my memory is correct it was the Audi 100 , I had one many moons ago!
I don't but the common myths with car manufactures either, personally I've always found the French do fantastic diesel engines but lousy petrol engines, early bm,s and Mercedes were bullet proof but expensive! Audi's were overly complicated, Italians were pretty but thoughtless (same could be said for the French) the Japanese were something peculiar utterly devoid of any "class" but built amazingly well, also built by people with very small hands, so be careful with fiddly things!
Americans were just appalling in every way and sense, truly appalling....
I do have a thing for old Saab's and Citroen's which I'm seeking physiatric help for "
French diesel engines are let down by weird electrics if that makes any sense. My ex wife had a Megane 1.9 DCI which developed a weird EGR fault. It went back to Renault numerous times and they couldn't figure it out, it even had a new ECU fitted but the fault wouldn't clear. Turned out (after I traced ever wire in the main loom) that the EGR valve and the aircon pressure sensor share an earth and the aircon needed re-gassing. Did that and bit cured the EGR valve fault!
The oil breather system on those engines is also a bag of Shit and prone to blockages which can cause turbo failure. |
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The light fitting is cracked somewhere and rain water..condensation is getting in. Usually they are not that hard to remove from inside the boot. Remove..see where it leaks from...use a bit of super glue to seal it...or get an eBay car parts replacement. ..usually chaep to get.. |
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"not a good idea to jet wash a fiat, as its not a pretty sight when bits fall off it. but as one comment said vauxhalls can be half fiat i had a corsa van that had fiat engine
Absolute rubbish! It's perfectly fine to jet wash any car unless you're a total idiot and hold the lance 2" from the bodywork. Also Fiat and Alfa Romeo were the first manufacturers to use galvanised metals in the construction of their vehicles and they're exceedingly good at it (the jokes about rusty Italian cars show just how little people know).
Like I said earlier in the thread reputations seem to stick when it comes to cars, it's not 1979 anymore and the Italians have come a very long way. The German car manufacturers could learn a thing or two from them rather than relying on an outraged reputation for reliability, covering up massive faults and producing utter crap cars.
Hopefully the impending court case against VW in the US will get the ball rolling....
Actually if my memory is correct it was the Audi 100 , I had one many moons ago!
I don't but the common myths with car manufactures either, personally I've always found the French do fantastic diesel engines but lousy petrol engines, early bm,s and Mercedes were bullet proof but expensive! Audi's were overly complicated, Italians were pretty but thoughtless (same could be said for the French) the Japanese were something peculiar utterly devoid of any "class" but built amazingly well, also built by people with very small hands, so be careful with fiddly things!
Americans were just appalling in every way and sense, truly appalling....
I do have a thing for old Saab's and Citroen's which I'm seeking physiatric help for
French diesel engines are let down by weird electrics if that makes any sense. My ex wife had a Megane 1.9 DCI which developed a weird EGR fault. It went back to Renault numerous times and they couldn't figure it out, it even had a new ECU fitted but the fault wouldn't clear. Turned out (after I traced ever wire in the main loom) that the EGR valve and the aircon pressure sensor share an earth and the aircon needed re-gassing. Did that and bit cured the EGR valve fault!
The oil breather system on those engines is also a bag of Shit and prone to blockages which can cause turbo failure."
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Oh don't get me started on French writing diagrams!
And then they want them to mastermind hinkley |
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"not a good idea to jet wash a fiat, as its not a pretty sight when bits fall off it. but as one comment said vauxhalls can be half fiat i had a corsa van that had fiat engine
Absolute rubbish! It's perfectly fine to jet wash any car unless you're a total idiot and hold the lance 2" from the bodywork. Also Fiat and Alfa Romeo were the first manufacturers to use galvanised metals in the construction of their vehicles and they're exceedingly good at it (the jokes about rusty Italian cars show just how little people know).
Like I said earlier in the thread reputations seem to stick when it comes to cars, it's not 1979 anymore and the Italians have come a very long way. The German car manufacturers could learn a thing or two from them rather than relying on an outraged reputation for reliability, covering up massive faults and producing utter crap cars.
Hopefully the impending court case against VW in the US will get the ball rolling....
Actually if my memory is correct it was the Audi 100 , I had one many moons ago!
I don't but the common myths with car manufactures either, personally I've always found the French do fantastic diesel engines but lousy petrol engines, early bm,s and Mercedes were bullet proof but expensive! Audi's were overly complicated, Italians were pretty but thoughtless (same could be said for the French) the Japanese were something peculiar utterly devoid of any "class" but built amazingly well, also built by people with very small hands, so be careful with fiddly things!
Americans were just appalling in every way and sense, truly appalling....
I do have a thing for old Saab's and Citroen's which I'm seeking physiatric help for
French diesel engines are let down by weird electrics if that makes any sense. My ex wife had a Megane 1.9 DCI which developed a weird EGR fault. It went back to Renault numerous times and they couldn't figure it out, it even had a new ECU fitted but the fault wouldn't clear. Turned out (after I traced ever wire in the main loom) that the EGR valve and the aircon pressure sensor share an earth and the aircon needed re-gassing. Did that and bit cured the EGR valve fault!
The oil breather system on those engines is also a bag of Shit and prone to blockages which can cause turbo failure..
Oh don't get me started on French writing diagrams!
And then they want them to mastermind hinkley "
To be fair Hinkley is already a mess, I hate driving round it.
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"The light fitting is cracked somewhere and rain water..condensation is getting in. Usually they are not that hard to remove from inside the boot. Remove..see where it leaks from...use a bit of super glue to seal it...or get an eBay car parts replacement. ..usually chaep to get.."
Yes it's all sorted now thank you |
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By *errygTV/TS
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F*$£?@g Italian After Thought!"
my comment on jet washing a fiat falling to bits i wasnt being serious, every car seems to have its faults,i was told by the garage french cars can be expensive when they go wrong, but saying that my mate has a P reg peuguot bit of a shed but it keeps going he had the car 6 yrs no major problems |
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Your car gets overheated.First reason your radiator is blocked as you may filled it with tab water.Secondly the water pump needs to be fixed or replaced.check the condition of the liquid in ,you can see it there you add water in your car,rusty first reason if not check the pump.Good luck xx |
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