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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Morning peeps, yes it's another animal post.
Whilst out feeding the wildlife this morning, noticed a lot of Hedgehog poo everywhere, they will be hibernating from about November, so I wondered who is feeding them and /or providing a winter room for them.  |
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over a year ago
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"I wouldn't know hedgehog poo if it landed on my head. 
I feed the little birds but having a real problem with pigeons lately.  "
I'll send you some for identification purposes if you like, PM you address.  |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right? |
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"We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right?"
Wet (tinned, pouches or those foil packs) of dog or cat food is the way to go. Hedgehogs are meat eaters (lots of slugs and snails) and cannot digest milk and bread. |
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"We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right?"
As long as it isn't a fish one. |
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"We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right?"
Awww! How cute. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right?"
Cat or Dog food , you can get Hedgehog food, I put out fat blocks with mealworms and insects too, the help them get fat for winter. |
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"We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right?"
dry cat food is best for them as I doesn't go off and hedgehogs are lactose intolerant so don't give them cows milk. Give them water or lactose free milk |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right?
Wet (tinned, pouches or those foil packs) of dog or cat food is the way to go. Hedgehogs are meat eaters (lots of slugs and snails) and cannot digest milk and bread."
Yeah good point, no milk and bread, don't know where that idea came from originally.  |
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"We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right? dry cat food is best for them as I doesn't go off and hedgehogs are lactose intolerant so don't give them cows milk. Give them water or lactose free milk "
Don't forget some water. |
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I have a hedgehog sanctuary under some trees and usually feed well, leading up to hibernation - especially if I see juveniles that are on the small side. They're very responsive and likely to roam somewhat but a good food source that's reliable will get them returning. |
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"We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right?
Wet (tinned, pouches or those foil packs) of dog or cat food is the way to go. Hedgehogs are meat eaters (lots of slugs and snails) and cannot digest milk and bread."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right?"
Yes don't give them bread and milk, it will give them the runs. Live Mealworms are good too |
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Hedgehogs like a bit of cover in your Garden where they can seek out their Main food source slugs and snails, low Lieing plants like lilys, hosta,s which Slugs and snails love you should always Have a hedgehog around, on bonfire night Make sure that if you have built a bonfire in your garden no hedgehogs have Gone inside to hibernate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We have a little hedgehog that turns up every year, it plays kamikazi by sitting on the drive at night and we have only just missed him a few times when coming home at night.
We read that cat food is ok for them? any idea if that's right?"
Better luck next time guys |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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That's 12 hours of posts .. And not one .....
I'd have taken , 'why can't they just share the hedges'... Anything ..
.. Not a one.
I'm very dissapointed . |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive "
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't like to encourage them into my garden because I've got cats, but there's one hardy little bugger that keeps coming back despite a few near misses  |
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"I don't like to encourage them into my garden because I've got cats, but there's one hardy little bugger that keeps coming back despite a few near misses "
Do the Cats pose much of a threat to them? I would have thought Hedgies would be ok curled up. |
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"I don't like to encourage them into my garden because I've got cats, but there's one hardy little bugger that keeps coming back despite a few near misses
Do the Cats pose much of a threat to them? I would have thought Hedgies would be ok curled up."
I'm not totally sure but would rather not risk it...one of the cats is pretty evil. |
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"I don't like to encourage them into my garden because I've got cats, but there's one hardy little bugger that keeps coming back despite a few near misses
Do the Cats pose much of a threat to them? I would have thought Hedgies would be ok curled up.
I'm not totally sure but would rather not risk it...one of the cats is pretty evil. "
Oh I see, you have one of those Cats. |
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right. "
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs "
Roads, Habitat loss, people killing them for fun, nest disturbance, pesticides, pets. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs "
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left |
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left "
And hedgehogs would be the obvious choice ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't like to encourage them into my garden because I've got cats, but there's one hardy little bugger that keeps coming back despite a few near misses
Do the Cats pose much of a threat to them? I would have thought Hedgies would be ok curled up.
I'm not totally sure but would rather not risk it...one of the cats is pretty evil.
Oh I see, you have one of those Cats."
Yeah, she is only 2kg but took on a seagull once |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left "
In short, there is no longer that "natural course of life" you are speaking about, we have caused a major disruption to that a long time ago. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
And hedgehogs would be the obvious choice !"
All Wildlife, this thread is about Hedgehogs, but could just as well be about any animal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
And hedgehogs would be the obvious choice !"
And why not? They are declining rapidly. Would you prefer we let them go extinct? They are natural bug killers and help gardens and are good for organic produce. Better than using pesticides |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I don't like to encourage them into my garden because I've got cats, but there's one hardy little bugger that keeps coming back despite a few near misses
Do the Cats pose much of a threat to them? I would have thought Hedgies would be ok curled up.
I'm not totally sure but would rather not risk it...one of the cats is pretty evil.
Oh I see, you have one of those Cats.
Yeah, she is only 2kg but took on a seagull once "
Cats are able to bring down prey larger than themselves, some just don't bother, probably because they're lazy. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
And hedgehogs would be the obvious choice !
And why not? They are declining rapidly. Would you prefer we let them go extinct? They are natural bug killers and help gardens and are good for organic produce. Better than using pesticides "
Spot on, I encourage them onto my allotment to eat slugs and snails. |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left "
not everybody knows how many hedgehogs there used to be before we started turning meadows into lawns, rows of hedges, killed foxs, killed badgers and wolves. instead of being so patronising perhaps you could just tell us. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
And hedgehogs would be the obvious choice !
And why not? They are declining rapidly. Would you prefer we let them go extinct? They are natural bug killers and help gardens and are good for organic produce. Better than using pesticides "
In what way "better" they aren't as efficency or effective and arguably no "healthier" an alternative to an appropriate pesticide |
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
not everybody knows how many hedgehogs there used to be before we started turning meadows into lawns, rows of hedges, killed foxs, killed badgers and wolves. instead of being so patronising perhaps you could just tell us. "
After WW2, a survey found there to be somewhere in the region of 30 million Hedgehogs in the UK, by the 90s, there were around 1.5 million, and 40% lost over the last 10 years is alarming. All wildlife plays an important role in the ecology of the planet, and affects everything on it in a minor or major way, including us. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
And hedgehogs would be the obvious choice !
And why not? They are declining rapidly. Would you prefer we let them go extinct? They are natural bug killers and help gardens and are good for organic produce. Better than using pesticides
In what way "better" they aren't as efficency or effective and arguably no "healthier" an alternative to an appropriate pesticide"
Hedgehogs are only part of the organic solution, organic farm thrives as well as non organic, just need a bit more funding and subsidies. |
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
And hedgehogs would be the obvious choice !
And why not? They are declining rapidly. Would you prefer we let them go extinct? They are natural bug killers and help gardens and are good for organic produce. Better than using pesticides
In what way "better" they aren't as efficency or effective and arguably no "healthier" an alternative to an appropriate pesticide
Hedgehogs are only part of the organic solution, organic farm thrives as well as non organic, just need a bit more funding and subsidies."
And heavy metal based pesticides and herbicides which are perfectly acceptable for use under the "organic" certification.
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
not everybody knows how many hedgehogs there used to be before we started turning meadows into lawns, rows of hedges, killed foxs, killed badgers and wolves. instead of being so patronising perhaps you could just tell us.
After WW2, a survey found there to be somewhere in the region of 30 million Hedgehogs in the UK, by the 90s, there were around 1.5 million, and 40% lost over the last 10 years is alarming. All wildlife plays an important role in the ecology of the planet, and affects everything on it in a minor or major way, including us. "
Were the exact same methodologies used for the survey in each or were more accurate less extrapolated surveys used for the recent ones? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
not everybody knows how many hedgehogs there used to be before we started turning meadows into lawns, rows of hedges, killed foxs, killed badgers and wolves. instead of being so patronising perhaps you could just tell us.
After WW2, a survey found there to be somewhere in the region of 30 million Hedgehogs in the UK, by the 90s, there were around 1.5 million, and 40% lost over the last 10 years is alarming. All wildlife plays an important role in the ecology of the planet, and affects everything on it in a minor or major way, including us.
Were the exact same methodologies used for the survey in each or were more accurate less extrapolated surveys used for the recent ones?"
Probably not, to be honest, recent ones are usually more accurate due to latest methods used, but the evidence of an alarming decline is solid, unfortunately. |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
not everybody knows how many hedgehogs there used to be before we started turning meadows into lawns, rows of hedges, killed foxs, killed badgers and wolves. instead of being so patronising perhaps you could just tell us.
After WW2, a survey found there to be somewhere in the region of 30 million Hedgehogs in the UK, by the 90s, there were around 1.5 million, and 40% lost over the last 10 years is alarming. All wildlife plays an important role in the ecology of the planet, and affects everything on it in a minor or major way, including us.
Were the exact same methodologies used for the survey in each or were more accurate less extrapolated surveys used for the recent ones?
Probably not, to be honest, recent ones are usually more accurate due to latest methods used, but the evidence of an alarming decline is solid, unfortunately."
the original point that was made was that man has had a detrimental effect on hedgehogs. what were they like before? was the 40's an all time high? |
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"We should let wild animals get on with the natural course of life.
Think of Stark Trek TNG - the prime directive
Totally disagree, we have had a devastating effect on Hedgehog numbers, and just about everything else on the planet, so we should help them, otherwise it's like saying it's fine to interfere in a negative way, but not a positive one, helping more of them survive the winter is a positive way of putting things right.
I'm intreagued to know how we have interfered in a negative way and had a devastating effect on hedgehogs
Your seriously asking that question? Have a look at the many sites on Google. Pollution. Building on their habitat to name 2 major ones. Increase of cars and roads.
We need to protect what is left
And hedgehogs would be the obvious choice !
And why not? They are declining rapidly. Would you prefer we let them go extinct? They are natural bug killers and help gardens and are good for organic produce. Better than using pesticides
In what way "better" they aren't as efficency or effective and arguably no "healthier" an alternative to an appropriate pesticide
Hedgehogs are only part of the organic solution, organic farm thrives as well as non organic, just need a bit more funding and subsidies.
And heavy metal based pesticides and herbicides which are perfectly acceptable for use under the "organic" certification.
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This is a problem, the more intense organic farming feels the need to be, they start to compromise on ethics, part of the problem is our expectations, if we could change our diet away from the usual veg, we could incorporate more No till systems, such as forest gardening, but the demand for certain crops puts the pressure on, but then the organic certification is reduced in number. |
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