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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

ive recently dipped my toe into this little rabbit hole. I'm not great with computers but managed to set my laptop up to enable me to browse the deep net safely. There is some very odd stuff there but also some other useful and interesting stuff. However I'm still a bit green so would like to be educated by any folk who use it. Advice on bitcoins is most needed. Cheers folks

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

How very odd. What are you up to, OP?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The dark web?

Bitcoins?

Is somebody being a naughty boy who wants to remain anonymous

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Hahaha I did expect this kind of question. I will say it's nothing sick! There is a great deal of that knocking about but it ain't my thing

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

So what did you find interesting that needs you to hide your spending by using bitcoins

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Weapons, hitmen......all apparently available on the dark web

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Yea they are all available however I very much doubt most are legit, it's not that I need to hide my spending it's just the way it's done on there. I'd happily use my PayPal or visa if it let me, honest officer

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

Anything you want is available on the Dark Net, if you know where to look.

I remember once stumbling over a website with an innocuous name that suddenly escapes me... now I like to think I know about drugs and the market but here were compounds, chemicals, drugs by the kilo that I've never even heard of.

It's like the Wild West out there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You on the silk road re-hashed.

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

"If you got the money, honey, we've got your disease in the jungle, welcome to the jungle..."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Weapons, hitmen......all apparently available on the dark web"

Not just on the dark web.

Taps nose....

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

I cant educate you but I think your first priority is to ensure that you are totally safe. And to keep a disconnect between any standard internet identity that you have and any connection that you even know about the other side.

I've never been there or purchased any bicoins.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Silk Road. Agora and a few others caught my attention. I'm just dubious about throwing a lot of money down the pan with little or no protection

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I wouldn't even know where to start to get on the dark net, I used to date a copper who was in the PPU (child abuse) and he put me off for life in what you can find on the dark net.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

I find it fascinating that most of the internet is dark. But I guess that's rather like our minds, so the parallel is familiar and captivating.

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

The irony is that the Dark Net was developed, via TOR, by the US g'ment to facilitate groups in politically repressive countries to co-ordinate.

Ooops.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet??

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet?? "

Google it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I wouldn't even know where to start to get on the dark net, I used to date a copper who was in the PPU (child abuse) and he put me off for life in what you can find on the dark net.

Yea that's the stuff I'm not interested in at all but sadly it is there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"ive recently dipped my toe into this little rabbit hole. I'm not great with computers but managed to set my laptop up to enable me to browse the deep net safely. There is some very odd stuff there but also some other useful and interesting stuff. However I'm still a bit green so would like to be educated by any folk who use it. Advice on bitcoins is most needed. Cheers folks"

The Dark web is not what you think it is, it is the unspeakable world of Tor and Darknet, stay away from it or pay the price. Bitcoins are virtual currency with no controls or ownership, Mining is done with powerful computers and is open to abuse. Do you like gambling with large amounts of money and potentially losing them. If it sounds too good to be true - IT IS! 25 years in IT ad counting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am so naive i live a sheltered life I think

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

I think what you mean to say is, that as with nuclear technology, the Dark Net is neither 'good' or 'evil' - it is entirely dependent on how people use it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The irony is that the Dark Net was developed, via TOR, by the US g'ment to facilitate groups in politically repressive countries to co-ordinate.

Ooops."

Not completely true, secure vpn has been around forever and has many legitimate uses to keep hackers out in banks and financial societies, proxy servers are a bypass to countrywide firewalls ad are not untraceable at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Yea I have tor and run tails with it (I've had a bit of guidance already) but like you say it's a lot of money to just throw away

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet?? "

yes the bad one! Darknet is largely back street dealing in illegal stuff..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet??

Google it"

Or possibly use a search engine that doesn't track your searches like google does.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet??

yes the bad one! Darknet is largely back street dealing in illegal stuff.."

I had no idea

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it fascinating that most of the internet is dark. But I guess that's rather like our minds, so the parallel is familiar and captivating."

Darknet is something beyond your comprehension, keep it that way.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet??

Google it

Or possibly use a search engine that doesn't track your searches like google does."

I googled it was like a Wikipedia page told me about it not that I understand it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I cant educate you but I think your first priority is to ensure that you are totally safe. And to keep a disconnect between any standard internet identity that you have and any connection that you even know about the other side.

I've never been there or purchased any bicoins."

Ooooh Bicoins! are they available in male and female? Lolz! xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Silk Road. Agora and a few others caught my attention. I'm just dubious about throwing a lot of money down the pan with little or no protection

You might want to be a bit careful, even if you think you are doing it safely. Silk Road and a few other sites, got taken down recently by the FBI (I think) and people were put in jail. Though it was later reinstalled by others.

I know it was higher-ups that were found out, but you never know what information they grab up on average people in the process...

-Courtney

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"I am so naive i live a sheltered life I think "

Keep it that way trust me you don't want to see what lurks on there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am so naive i live a sheltered life I think

Keep it that way trust me you don't want to see what lurks on there "

Seems that way

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet??

Google it

Or possibly use a search engine that doesn't track your searches like google does.

I googled it was like a Wikipedia page told me about it not that I understand it "
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It's underground Internet where people buy and sell child porn and whatever other dark and grim stuff people do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hahaha I did expect this kind of question. I will say it's nothing sick! There is a great deal of that knocking about but it ain't my thing"

If you think anything on the internet is invisible, you need to study some IT, nothing is totally hide-able, I have 25 years in uncovering it! Everything goes through public servers that are monitored, SSL VPN Triple DES can all be unlocked in seconds by the authorities. If you know how to tracert you can see where it goes!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet??

yes the bad one! Darknet is largely back street dealing in illegal stuff.."
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What did you think was going to be on there.... Legal stuff

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hahaha I did expect this kind of question. I will say it's nothing sick! There is a great deal of that knocking about but it ain't my thing

Makes you wonder how they failed to find bin laden then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet??

Google it

Or possibly use a search engine that doesn't track your searches like google does.

I googled it was like a Wikipedia page told me about it not that I understand it .

It's underground Internet where people buy and sell child porn and whatever other dark and grim stuff people do "

Horrible

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Hahaha I did expect this kind of question. I will say it's nothing sick! There is a great deal of that knocking about but it ain't my thing

Like I said I'm not really fussed about being "caught" as it were. It's not so much illegal but more immoral that I'm after

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

You might not like it but it's here to stay. As the blessed Dr Shulgin highlighted "Just say KNOW"

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/31/silk-road-sentencing-darknet-drugs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So anyway, you'll have to buy some bitcoins.

The currency has been a bit up +down.

There were a few communities using it, Berlin I think, but not sure current state .

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Hahaha I did expect this kind of question. I will say it's nothing sick! There is a great deal of that knocking about but it ain't my thing

Like I said I'm not really fussed about being "caught" as it were. It's not so much illegal but more immoral that I'm after"

WTF

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

Silk Road operator Ross Ulbricht sentenced to life in prison

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/29/silk-road-ross-ulbricht-sentenced

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hahaha I did expect this kind of question. I will say it's nothing sick! There is a great deal of that knocking about but it ain't my thing

Like I said I'm not really fussed about being "caught" as it were. It's not so much illegal but more immoral that I'm after"

Like what !

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I'm judy wondering what the op means by immoral on the deep/dark web

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Silk Road operator Ross Ulbricht sentenced to life in prison

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/29/silk-road-ross-ulbricht-sentenced"

That Ross Ulbricht was fucking cute though!!

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

"I'm judy wondering what the op means by immoral on the deep/dark web

"After the break - more speculation"

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Silk Road operator Ross Ulbricht sentenced to life in prison

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/29/silk-road-ross-ulbricht-sentenced

That Ross Ulbricht was fucking cute though!!

Really?

I wonder about yr taste in men tbh!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"I'm judy wondering what the op means by immoral on the deep/dark web

"After the break - more speculation""

Lol

I meant just not judy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Silk Road operator Ross Ulbricht sentenced to life in prison

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/29/silk-road-ross-ulbricht-sentenced

That Ross Ulbricht was fucking cute though!!

Really?

I wonder about yr taste in men tbh!"

Me too, sometimes

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By *icky999Man over a year ago

warrington

can some one get me a pair of pippa Middletons undercrackers if I give you money for bit coins?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Oh Christ alive! Let's just say you can pay for services on there, like hit men, hackers etc. now I'm not after bumping anyone off but would like to teach someone a lesson but not get him sacked obviously as he is a mate after all. If it worked it would be worth the money. If it didn't then I'd be out of pocket and still owe him. Childish games but I'm trying to be creative

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Learn how to mine bitcoins. And i'll leave it at that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"can some one get me a pair of pippa Middletons undercrackers if I give you money for bit coins?

"
...Does she need to be wearing them at the time?

I'm just saying as by chance I know where she hangs her washing

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By *r. JoystickMan over a year ago

London

"The Dark web is not what you think it is, it is the unspeakable world of Tor and Darknet, stay away from it or pay the price. Bitcoins are virtual currency with no controls or ownership, Mining is done with powerful computers and is open to abuse. Do you like gambling with large amounts of money and potentially losing them. If it sounds too good to be true - IT IS! 25 years in IT ad counting.

Listen to this.

I'm a pretty skilled IT used, but even I stay away from the Dark Web. Quite frankly, there are some awful things on it. Chances are that unless you've done a fair bit of research before 'dipping in' - you've not secured yourself properly. Hell, even if you have, I'm pretty sure it'll be easy enough to track you if somebody want to.

Whilst it may be true that unless you're buying/sharing goods (a fair amount illegal, let's face it), direct action wouldn't be taken - it's fairly certain some activity will be tracked.

Just stick to the typical ol' web. It's not like it's lacking in resources or anything.

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By *r. JoystickMan over a year ago

London

Also, apologies for the above typos. Late night + phone = not checking what I've written

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Oh Christ alive! Let's just say you can pay for services on there, like hit men, hackers etc. now I'm not after bumping anyone off but would like to teach someone a lesson but not get him sacked obviously as he is a mate after all. If it worked it would be worth the money. If it didn't then I'd be out of pocket and still owe him. Childish games but I'm trying to be creative

Sounds a bit risky for a prank!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The basic principle is that your request is broken into lots of bits and shunted through lots of routes, and the reply is similarly routed.

The principle was built by the American Navy to hide the location and content of communication, but it doesn't work unless there is a lot of traffic to hide it behind, so it was made public.

Now in theory this secure except at 2 points, where it is sent from and where it is received. sort of...

If you are using the dark net via your home broadband connection there is a third point i.e. your ISP as at that stage there is only 1 connection made. No problem for the American Military as they own the connections, but unless you are driving around using public access points your connection is not as secure as you may think.

It is of course buried under a mound of other data and unless someone starts to look for it it probably won't be found by accident, but it is NOT untraceable for normal members of the public.

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman over a year ago

Palookaville

God is all I can do to work this Web

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By *irty130Couple over a year ago

Bristol Area

OP you might like this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarketsNoobs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet?? "

It's websites not accessible by normal search engines, Google etc.

Plenty of dodgy dealings going on and Bitcoin is used to pay for things as it's an anonymous form of payment.

I find it all really interesting, been using tor tonight and found myself raising an eyebrow and laughing mostly.

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman over a year ago

Palookaville

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet??

It's websites not accessible by normal search engines, Google etc.

Plenty of dodgy dealings going on and Bitcoin is used to pay for things as it's an anonymous form of payment.

I find it all really interesting, been using tor tonight and found myself raising an eyebrow and laughing mostly. "

I'm scared to ask what that is! !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet??

It's websites not accessible by normal search engines, Google etc.

Plenty of dodgy dealings going on and Bitcoin is used to pay for things as it's an anonymous form of payment.

I find it all really interesting, been using tor tonight and found myself raising an eyebrow and laughing mostly.

I'm scared to ask what that is! !

What I was laughing at?

While I'm sure there is some legit dodgy goings on in the dark web, but some of the sites which are openly advertised on hidden wiki surely must be a parody.

A hitman to take out "a normal person" for £20,000 and all you have to do to start is to send an email.....plus the way some sites are written is rather comical.

And as for drugs delivered straight to your door, or at a dead drop. Doesn't really keep things anonymous......

I didn't do much digging, just stuff from hidden wiki, but there's certainly some seriously hardcore stuff out there that I wouldn't even think of going near.

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman over a year ago

Palookaville

"Have absolutely no idea what you talking about

Is there another type of Internet??

It's websites not accessible by normal search engines, Google etc.

Plenty of dodgy dealings going on and Bitcoin is used to pay for things as it's an anonymous form of payment.

I find it all really interesting, been using tor tonight and found myself raising an eyebrow and laughing mostly.

I'm scared to ask what that is! !

What I was laughing at?

While I'm sure there is some legit dodgy goings on in the dark web, but some of the sites which are openly advertised on hidden wiki surely must be a parody.

A hitman to take out "a normal person" for £20,000 and all you have to do to start is to send an email.....plus the way some sites are written is rather comical.

And as for drugs delivered straight to your door, or at a dead drop. Doesn't really keep things anonymous......

I didn't do much digging, just stuff from hidden wiki, but there's certainly some seriously hardcore stuff out there that I wouldn't even think of going near. "

I meant tor lol....jeez that all sounds a bit dodgy

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

The moment you indicate that you are not a regular Joe, just using the net for standard stuff like facebook or Fab, then you mark yourself out as worthy of special attention. We already know that all the humdrum stuff we do is seemingly of value for us to be under scrutiny. Imagine now that someone deliberately takes a path that is known to be of particular significance.

If someone is not wishing to be placed under higher levels of observation then I perceive it to be unwise to signify that they're of this persuasion. Using tor already marks a user as distinct from others. Using tor to access less mainstream places is foolhardiness Imo.

As I said earlier, I am not particularly expert at anything concerning technology and have not used the dark net or bitcoins. Nor am I particularly risk averse. I am somewhat alarmed by what people may expose themselves to.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Facebook just released an Onion version for the peeps who can't get it in the traditional manners it's not all bad.

Well mostly it's bad.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can beat your cotton socks law enforcement will use Tor and the dark net to entrap people as lets face it anything is only truly secure as the people using it. Seeing Tor is funded by the US government pretty sure regardless of what NSA say they will have their own backdoors.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Be creative and think of something else as you might find yourself getting caught up in something that is way over your head.

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