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David Cameron has been caught off-camera talking about people in Yorkshire "hating each other".
The Prime Minister was picked up on a microphone saying: "We just thought people in Yorkshire hated everyone else, we didn't think they hated each other so much." |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It was an innocent faux pas which he thought was private. Obviously in his position perhaps he should have known better, but it was nothing more or less than the type of throwaway banter anyone would say to their mates as a joke.
But this being the UK go watch everyone be offended and get their knickers in a right little twist over this!  |
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over a year ago
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"I'm so glad my muttered comments don't get picked up on microphones or I'd have offended just about everyone I've ever met by now 
Maybe this app is bugged...]  "
I'm ok with that, I'm nothing but polite on here  |
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"I'm so glad my muttered comments don't get picked up on microphones or I'd have offended just about everyone I've ever met by now
It is really easy to forget you're wearing a mic.  "
Is there a backstory there?  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm so glad my muttered comments don't get picked up on microphones or I'd have offended just about everyone I've ever met by now
It is really easy to forget you're wearing a mic.
Is there a backstory there? "
Maybe...  |
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Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.' |
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"I'm so glad my muttered comments don't get picked up on microphones or I'd have offended just about everyone I've ever met by now
Maybe this app is bugged...]
I'm ok with that, I'm nothing but polite on here "
I am sure nothing unpleasant has ever passed your lips
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"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'"
. I thought that David Cameron has worked hard all his life?.
My understanding was that he was doing an excellent job for the NHS by providing a stable financial environment in which to fund it. |
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"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'"
I'm not sure who Mike Harding is, but he appears to have proved David Cameron wholly right. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'"
sometimes the bitterness oozes out of every letter typed |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It was obviously a joke.
I didn't realise that the country was running out of proper stuff to criticise him for....he must be doing a better job than I thought"
This I often squabble with my colleague about maggie T . And weather she had a five year plan which started with offering us our council homes, and ended with the county serving the city, I'm paraphrasing 'cause it's a long and on going squabble ...
There is no queen and country no boarders as you understand them we just prop up the city..
So now I'm wondering if there isn't a system and this is stage on , disstract us with the right hand eatting bacon butties while the right one riffles through our pockets.
I'm sorry this should be in the conspiracy thread..
And I should probable have more coherent thoughts before I scribble things down.
If your in power three years and you have six months of which is campaign trail, summer holidays how many times do you have to fill the days storey with bollox ... Not many ..... I think I read the wrong papers .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Mike Harding was a 70's comic/ folk singer.
He's done nothing of note for about 30 years and is about as relevant to Yorkshire as Sean Connect is to Scotland"
He sounds like he needs a hug, or possibly a cup of Yorkshire tea and a slice of Parkin. |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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"Mike Harding was a 70's comic/ folk singer.
He's done nothing of note for about 30 years and is about as relevant to Yorkshire as Sean Connect is to Scotland
He sounds like he needs a hug, or possibly a cup of Yorkshire tea and a slice of Parkin."
Don't worry, he has supplies brought out to his well-appointed villa in Marbella...
...by a flock of carrier ferrets |
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By *ill74Man
over a year ago
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"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'"
Erm, Cameron has lost a son. And his son was looked after by the NHS. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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As one who moved from another county into Yorkshire, I have to say I agree with him. Antipathy seems to be very one-way:- other counties don't slag Yorkshire off anywhere near as much as they do others! |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'
Erm, Cameron has lost a son. And his son was looked after by the NHS."
As did Gordon Brown.
Was there a point you were trying, yet failing, to make? |
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"Why do they call the north " the northern power house. Have you tried getting a dental appointment on a Saturday
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Saturday dental appointments... Think they're only for people who go private. |
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"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'
Erm, Cameron has lost a son. And his son was looked after by the NHS."
We know, he wheels that detail out every time he tries to justify selling another chunk off to his hedge fund mates |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'
Erm, Cameron has lost a son. And his son was looked after by the NHS.
We know, he wheels that detail out every time he tries to justify selling another chunk off to his hedge fund mates "
Is that the child Cameron left in the pub? |
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"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'
Erm, Cameron has lost a son. And his son was looked after by the NHS.
We know, he wheels that detail out every time he tries t.o justify selling another chunk off to his hedge fund mates "
. Who has ever said anything about selling off the NHS?. |
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing."
. I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people .
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"I'm so glad my muttered comments don't get picked up on microphones or I'd have offended just about everyone I've ever met by now
Maybe this app is bugged...] "
I'm fucked then. |
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing..
I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people . "
Bet he's never worked a real job, or even scubbed his own toilet. Or ever had to go hungry so his kids can eat. Or had to choose between heating or eating. Or been put under any kind of mental pressure at all, thanks to his priviliged bubble.
It's all good and well travelling and observing from a distance in extremely short periods when wanting votes, but being in that situation yourself makes a big difference. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'
Erm, Cameron has lost a son. And his son was looked after by the NHS.
We know, he wheels that detail out every time he tries t.o justify selling another chunk off to his hedge fund mates . Who has ever said anything about selling off the NHS?. "
Jeremy Hunt (not rhyming slang). |
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing..
I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people .
Bet he's never worked a real job, or even scubbed his own toilet. Or ever had to go hungry so his kids can eat. Or had to choose between heating or eating. Or been put under any kind of mental pressure at all, thanks to his priviliged bubble.
It's all good and well travelling and observing from a distance in extremely short periods when wanting votes, but being in that situation yourself makes a big difference."
. I would think that he is under considerable mental pressure but is trained to take it . His life and actions are monitored non stop. 24/7 |
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"Yeah , saw it on the news .
It was clearly said as a joke and he's only human .
No big deal .
Cameron? Human? Are you sure?"
He's human yeah. Humane, not so much. |
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing..
I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people .
Bet he's never worked a real job, or even scubbed his own toilet. Or ever had to go hungry so his kids can eat. Or had to choose between heating or eating. Or been put under any kind of mental pressure at all, thanks to his priviliged bubble.
It's all good and well travelling and observing from a distance in extremely short periods when wanting votes, but being in that situation yourself makes a big difference..
I would think that he is under considerable mental pressure but is trained to take it. His life and actions are monitored non stop. 24/7 "
He has no experience of life outside of a privileged bubble. He doesn't understand most of the people he is supposed to represent. Therefore, from my _iew, he cannot know what's best for them.
Do you think Cameron has any understanding, or empathy, for people? Do you think maybe his policies pushed someone into doing this: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ashton-job-centre-man-petrol-10038444 |
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing..
I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people .
Bet he's never worked a real job, or even scubbed his own toilet. Or ever had to go hungry so his kids can eat. Or had to choose between heating or eating. Or been put under any kind of mental pressure at all, thanks to his priviliged bubble.
It's all good and well travelling and observing from a distance in extremely short periods when wanting votes, but being in that situation yourself makes a big difference..
I would think that he is under considerable mental pressure but is trained to take it. His life and actions are monitored non stop. 24/7
He has no experience of life outside of a privileged bubble. He doesn't understand most of the people he is supposed to represent. Therefore, from my _iew, he cannot know what's best for them.
Do you think Cameron has any understanding, or empathy, for people? Do you think maybe his policies pushed someone into doing this: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ashton-job-centre-man-petrol-10038444"
. With reference to the link , only a total nut case would dose themself in petrol. How could this be linked to David Cameron . ?.
If David Cameron did not understand people , he would hardly have been elected as Prime Minister . More voters voted for his party than any other party . We are only able to help the poor by having a stable economic background from which to provide funds . |
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"David Cameron has been caught off-camera talking about people in Yorkshire "hating each other".
The Prime Minister was picked up on a microphone saying: "We just thought people in Yorkshire hated everyone else, we didn't think they hated each other so much.""
So what?
Sounds like a light hearted bit of banter to me until the politically correct police wanna have an opinion ..
He has loads bigger issues on his plate than dealing with perceived shit like this ,ffs give the guy a break.. |
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing..
I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people .
Bet he's never worked a real job, or even scubbed his own toilet. Or ever had to go hungry so his kids can eat. Or had to choose between heating or eating. Or been put under any kind of mental pressure at all, thanks to his priviliged bubble.
It's all good and well travelling and observing from a distance in extremely short periods when wanting votes, but being in that situation yourself makes a big difference..
I would think that he is under considerable mental pressure but is trained to take it. His life and actions are monitored non stop. 24/7
He has no experience of life outside of a privileged bubble. He doesn't understand most of the people he is supposed to represent. Therefore, from my _iew, he cannot know what's best for them.
Do you think Cameron has any understanding, or empathy, for people? Do you think maybe his policies pushed someone into doing this: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ashton-job-centre-man-petrol-10038444.
With reference to the link , only a total nut case would dose themself in petrol. How could this be linked to David Cameron . ?.
If David Cameron did not understand people , he would hardly have been elected as Prime Minister . More voters voted for his party than any other party . We are only able to help the poor by having a stable economic background from which to provide funds ."
I didn't vote for him for a start, he does not represent me and i have never wanted him to.
Do you understand what makes someone a 'nutcase' though? Mental pressure can.
If our PM had any experience of life outside of a privileged bubble he would know his policies harm people. He would know food banks are NOT 'a good thing' - children starving and their parnets having to beg for food is NOT 'a good thing' and he would NOT contradict himself by saying the welfare state is 'a bad thing'. Because they're both the same thing, welfare is welfare. He's just unexperienced in life itself, and why wouldn't he be when he pays everyone else to experience it for him?
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"He didnt vote himself in..."
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist. |
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist."
Do you think that there's a politician that does? |
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?"
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough. |
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough."
You're obviously in a minority then. The majority don't agree with you. A government can't cater for everyone's whim. |
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough."
Genuinely though do you think a person who had the same kind of upbringing, education and background as your self would be suited to a job managing a budget of billions or a staff of then of thousands,deciding policy that affects everyone, dealing with highly educated and skilled career politicians from other countries?
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough.
You're obviously in a minority then. The majority don't agree with you. A government can't cater for everyone's whim."
Maybe i am in a minority, doesn't mean i don't exist though and the system shouldn't treat me like i don't either.
The system should represent everyone under it, otherwise it has failed someone out there.
We need a new system. I don't get how come people get chosen to represent our lives, our needs, our future, and yet they don't represent everyone. That's not right. |
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough.
You're obviously in a minority then. The majority don't agree with you. A government can't cater for everyone's whim.
Maybe i am in a minority, doesn't mean i don't exist though and the system shouldn't treat me like i don't either.
The system should represent everyone under it, otherwise it has failed someone out there.
We need a new system. I don't get how come people get chosen to represent our lives, our needs, our future, and yet they don't represent everyone. That's not right."
They do represent everyone though just not always in the way the individual feels they should.
You can't please everyone.
For instance I sleep sounder knowing that somewhere out there there is submarine loaded with nuclear weapons ready to rain down the end of days on a country should they attack us.
Many people disagree and think we'd be safer if we didn't have such a weapon in our arsenal.
How can one system represent both of our _iew points equally? |
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"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'"
This has to be one of the best things I've read on here
"Crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding" this could rival Shakespeare
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough.
Genuinely though do you think a person who had the same kind of upbringing, education and background as your self would be suited to a job managing a budget of billions or a staff of then of thousands, deciding policy that affects everyone, dealing with highly educated and skilled career politicians from other countries?
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Highly educated in what though? They're putting people into situations they've never had to deal with themselves. Seen one of them say he shouldn't have to wait in A&E like us...'us', we're people too.
Sorry but i know they have hard decisions to make, and most of it's based on finances, but if they don't understand the basics of life then they know nothing. They aren't fit to represent anyone. |
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough.
You're obviously in a minority then. The majority don't agree with you. A government can't cater for everyone's whim.
Maybe i am in a minority, doesn't mean i don't exist though and the system shouldn't treat me like i don't either.
The system should represent everyone under it, otherwise it has failed someone out there.
We need a new system. I don't get how come people get chosen to represent our lives, our needs, our future, and yet they don't represent everyone. That's not right.
They do represent everyone though just not always in the way the individual feels they should.
You can't please everyone.
For instance I sleep sounder knowing that somewhere out there there is submarine loaded with nuclear weapons ready to rain down the end of days on a country should they attack us.
Many people disagree and think we'd be safer if we didn't have such a weapon in our arsenal.
How can one system represent both of our _iew points equally?"
You can please everyone. Life's not fair is one of the most bullshit phrases i've ever seen and bandied about to make people think they should put up and shut up.
You can have a government made up of people that represent everyone. It doesn't have to be right against left, but all parties should be working together to ensure life is fair and that all people get represented.
We have rights and laws that protect the minorities that live here, so why not go the whole hog and have a government that does the same? I am starting to think actually that none of them care now or else we'd have this system already.
I don't care to opine about the weapons, ideally they wouldn't exist at all. |
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough.
Genuinely though do you think a person who had the same kind of upbringing, education and background as your self would be suited to a job managing a budget of billions or a staff of then of thousands, deciding policy that affects everyone, dealing with highly educated and skilled career politicians from other countries?
Highly educated in what though? They're putting people into situations they've never had to deal with themselves. Seen one of them say he shouldn't have to wait in A&E like us...'us', we're people too.
Sorry but i know they have hard decisions to make, and most of it's based on finances, but if they don't understand the basics of life then they know nothing. They aren't fit to represent anyone."
Ploitics what else?
Of course they know the basics of life they live just like everyone else.
But you build a government of people who only know ordinary lives and you put them up against the rest of the world that had career politicians well versed and practiced in politics, law, and the day to day of international relations (the legal and grey parts ) and they will get creamed.
We don't pick doctors based on their upbringing we pick them based on their medical training, same for engineers, teachers and lawyers why would we do different for political roles? |
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough.
You're obviously in a minority then. The majority don't agree with you. A government can't cater for everyone's whim.
Maybe i am in a minority, doesn't mean i don't exist though and the system shouldn't treat me like i don't either.
The system should represent everyone under it, otherwise it has failed someone out there.
We need a new system. I don't get how come people get chosen to represent our lives, our needs, our future, and yet they don't represent everyone. That's not right.
They do represent everyone though just not always in the way the individual feels they should.
You can't please everyone.
For instance I sleep sounder knowing that somewhere out there there is submarine loaded with nuclear weapons ready to rain down the end of days on a country should they attack us.
Many people disagree and think we'd be safer if we didn't have such a weapon in our arsenal.
How can one system represent both of our _iew points equally?
You can please everyone. Life's not fair is one of the most bullshit phrases i've ever seen and bandied about to make people think they should put up and shut up.
You can have a government made up of people that represent everyone. It doesn't have to be right against left, but all parties should be working together to ensure life is fair and that all people get represented.
We have rights and laws that protect the minorities that live here, so why not go the whole hog and have a government that does the same? I am starting to think actually that none of them care now or else we'd have this system already.
I don't care to opine about the weapons, ideally they wouldn't exist at all."
So you've just basically said you can please everyone but this issue is on care about so it doesn't matter then gone on to say ideally they shouldn't exist (if personally disagree there if they didn't exist the cold war would have ended in a lot more blood shed as we'd have happily decided to mock fuck out of each other)
I gave you one simple issue and with your "basic life akills" you completely failed to address it.
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough.
Genuinely though do you think a person who had the same kind of upbringing, education and background as your self would be suited to a job managing a budget of billions or a staff of then of thousands, deciding policy that affects everyone, dealing with highly educated and skilled career politicians from other countries?
Highly educated in what though? They're putting people into situations they've never had to deal with themselves. Seen one of them say he shouldn't have to wait in A&E like us...'us', we're people too.
Sorry but i know they have hard decisions to make, and most of it's based on finances, but if they don't understand the basics of life then they know nothing. They aren't fit to represent anyone.
Ploitics what else?
Of course they know the basics of life they live just like everyone else.
But you build a government of people who only know ordinary lives and you put them up against the rest of the world that had career politicians well versed and practiced in politics, law, and the day to day of international relations (the legal and grey parts ) and they will get creamed.
We don't pick doctors based on their upbringing we pick them based on their medical training, same for engineers, teachers and lawyers why would we do different for political roles?"
Ok educated in politics... Each politician has a role, based on their abilities then? Like the education secretary has been employed in education recently and is up to date with how it works and what it needs, as of now? Or do they have advisors who might be best for the job, more than themselves?
Unemployment secretary. What's his experience of unemployment and has he ever had to live on minimal money recently so knows the amount people need to live off?
Most of them are really only qualified for law aren't they. |
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He's such a clueless Pratt, with his former job as a PR person. And yet fairly stupid really in terms of how he thinks and talks about us. I think some of it is down to his very limited intelligence and the rest due to his public school origins, giving him a twisted understanding of most of us. And I say that as someone with many friends from the same educational background who are perfectly sound - it just limits some of them or affects them poorly. |
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"So you've just basically said you can please everyone but this issue is on care about so it doesn't matter then gone on to say ideally they shouldn't exist (if personally disagree there if they didn't exist the cold war would have ended in a lot more blood shed as we'd have happily decided to mock fuck out of each other)
I gave you one simple issue and with your "basic life akills" you completely failed to address it.
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No, someone else said they don't care. And after thinking about it it seems true. They do not care to represent everyone, despite their being enough politicians willing to do so.
You can please everyone, it's called give and take, compromise. Not one type of person gets everything they want. Everyone would be considered as having needs, and the needs would override the wants.
Ideally we would live in a world that does not have weapons, that's why i don;t care to discuss them or make any point about them at all. Some countries aren't allowed nuclear weapons and are attacked for that, why do we get permission to be the only paranoid country? What makes our lives more special than anyone elses?
We live in a fucked up world, politics is contributing to that. The way they're shaping society is contributing to that. Their lies are contributing to that. |
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Let's be honest I'm sure most Yorkshire folk took it as a joke we really do hate each other North (the best btw ), South, East or West but we come together and hate all from other counties. |
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"It was an innocent faux pas which he thought was private. Obviously in his position perhaps he should have known better, but it was nothing more or less than the type of throwaway banter anyone would say to their mates as a joke.
But this being the UK go watch everyone be offended and get their knickers in a right little twist over this! "
Funny how if a Labour PM calls a woman obnoxious for voicing overtly racist sentiments he is pilloried but when a Southern millionaire Tory Eaton boy PM insults a whole Northern county its nothing more than a joke.
Remind me to laugh...
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing..
I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people .
Bet he's never worked a real job, or even scubbed his own toilet. Or ever had to go hungry so his kids can eat. Or had to choose between heating or eating. Or been put under any kind of mental pressure at all, thanks to his priviliged bubble.
It's all good and well travelling and observing from a distance in extremely short periods when wanting votes, but being in that situation yourself makes a big difference..
I would think that he is under considerable mental pressure but is trained to take it. His life and actions are monitored non stop. 24/7
He has no experience of life outside of a privileged bubble. He doesn't understand most of the people he is supposed to represent. Therefore, from my _iew, he cannot know what's best for them.
Do you think Cameron has any understanding, or empathy, for people? Do you think maybe his policies pushed someone into doing this: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ashton-job-centre-man-petrol-10038444.
With reference to the link , only a total nut case would dose themself in petrol. How could this be linked to David Cameron . ?.
If David Cameron did not understand people , he would hardly have been elected as Prime Minister . More voters voted for his party than any other party . We are only able to help the poor by having a stable economic background from which to provide funds .
I didn't vote for him for a start, he does not represent me and i have never wanted him to.
Do you understand what makes someone a 'nutcase' though? Mental pressure can.
If our PM had any experience of life outside of a privileged bubble he would know his policies harm people. He would know food banks are NOT 'a good thing' - children starving and their parnets having to beg for food is NOT 'a good thing' and he would NOT contradict himself by saying the welfare state is 'a bad thing'. Because they're both the same thing, welfare is welfare. He's just unexperienced in life itself, and why wouldn't he be when he pays everyone else to experience it for him?
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How can the current governments policies harm people ?. We have a welfare system which provides a a safey net for those in need.
There is no need to worry about food banks . They only exist because people choose to spend their benefits on other things .
There is nothing wrong in coming from what you refer to as a privileged background . You do not need to have been unemployed in order to understand how unemployment impacts on people ..I assist someone who is mentally ill. However I would not need to be mentally ill in order to new able to provide assistance . What actually maters is life experience and David Cameron has a lot more of that thsn someone who has been unemployed . . |
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing..
I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people .
Bet he's never worked a real job, or even scubbed his own toilet. Or ever had to go hungry so his kids can eat. Or had to choose between heating or eating. Or been put under any kind of mental pressure at all, thanks to his priviliged bubble.
It's all good and well travelling and observing from a distance in extremely short periods when wanting votes, but being in that situation yourself makes a big difference..
I would think that he is under considerable mental pressure but is trained to take it. His life and actions are monitored non stop. 24/7
He has no experience of life outside of a privileged bubble. He doesn't understand most of the people he is supposed to represent. Therefore, from my _iew, he cannot know what's best for them.
Do you think Cameron has any understanding, or empathy, for people? Do you think maybe his policies pushed someone into doing this: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ashton-job-centre-man-petrol-10038444.
With reference to the link , only a total nut case would dose themself in petrol. How could this be linked to David Cameron . ?.
If David Cameron did not understand people , he would hardly have been elected as Prime Minister . More voters voted for his party than any other party . We are only able to help the poor by having a stable economic background from which to provide funds .
I didn't vote for him for a start, he does not represent me and i have never wanted him to.
Do you understand what makes someone a 'nutcase' though? Mental pressure can.
If our PM had any experience of life outside of a privileged bubble he would know his policies harm people. He would know food banks are NOT 'a good thing' - children starving and their parnets having to beg for food is NOT 'a good thing' and he would NOT contradict himself by saying the welfare state is 'a bad thing'. Because they're both the same thing, welfare is welfare. He's just unexperienced in life itself, and why wouldn't he be when he pays everyone else to experience it for him?
How can the current governments policies harm people ?. We have a welfare system which provides a a safey net for those in need.
There is no need to worry about food banks . They only exist because people choose to spend their benefits on other things .
There is nothing wrong in coming from what you refer to as a privileged background . You do not need to have been unemployed in order to understand how unemployment impacts on people ..I assist someone who is mentally ill. However I would not need to be mentally ill in order to new able to provide assistance . What actually maters is life experience and David Cameron has a lot more of that thsn someone who has been unemployed . . "
There is no safety net any more, that's gone now because you can be sanctioned for up to a whole year. This means not entitled to benefits for a whole year, even if you've paid taxes and NI for the right to be looked after if you lose your job.
Most people need food banks because their benefit payments are delayed or they get sanctioned. They aren't getting any money or not getting enough money, despite the law saying you need *whatever* amount to live on. Can you see now where i'm coming from? This government breaks it's own laws.
If you got sanctioned and felt like killing yourself who would you blame? Yourself for being nothing in a system that doesn't care for you or the system itself? I know which one i'd blame.
Cameron has no experience outside of his bubble. If he did he would not say that charity is wrong when it comes to his responsibility to dole it out and insist charity is right when everyone but him is doing it. He doesn't understand why it's not right to harm people and give them a value lesser than himself.
He thinks it's ok to starve his own people, yet him and his cronies get subsidised food and alcohol on our behalf and they can afford to buy it full price. Sorry but what part of fucked up privilege do you agree with here? |
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"He didnt vote himself in...
Yeah i realise there are flaws in a system that allows someone to represent me who has no idea what my life is like or doesn't even care that i exist.
Do you think that there's a politician that does?
Yeah i do. Old school labour ones do. Possibly some old school tories even. I think green would be best to represent me as well, not perfect but close enough.
You're obviously in a minority then. The majority don't agree with you. A government can't cater for everyone's whim.
Maybe i am in a minority, doesn't mean i don't exist though and the system shouldn't treat me like i don't either.
The system should represent everyone under it, otherwise it has failed someone out there.
We need a new system. I don't get how come people get chosen to represent our lives, our needs, our future, and yet they don't represent everyone. That's not right.
They do represent everyone though just not always in the way the individual feels they should.
You can't please everyone.
For instance I sleep sounder knowing that somewhere out there there is submarine loaded with nuclear weapons ready to rain down the end of days on a country should they attack us.
Many people disagree and think we'd be safer if we didn't have such a weapon in our arsenal.
How can one system represent both of our _iew points equally?
You can please everyone. Life's not fair is one of the most bullshit phrases i've ever seen and bandied about to make people think they should put up and shut up.
You can have a government made up of people that represent everyone. It doesn't have to be right against left, but all parties should be working together to ensure life is fair and that all people get represented.
We have rights and laws that protect the minorities that live here, so why not go the whole hog and have a government that does the same? I am starting to think actually that none of them care now or else we'd have this system already.
I don't care to opine about the weapons, ideally they wouldn't exist at all."
There is a difference between representing everyone and pleasing everyone. Like it or not, our government represents all of us, but we may, or may not, like the way in which they represent us. You cannot please everybody all of the time.
Now, back to the thread. It was a joke. That's all.
I know quite a few people from Yorkshire, and on the extremely rare occasion that one of them has joked about anything, the joke has always been about things from outside yorkshire.... sometimes even pointed at me.
Maybe I should be totally and utterly offended at that? And maybe they should be ashamed of themselves for even daring to joke at someone else?
Mind you, you do have to feel sorry for yorkshiremen, after all, they did all have to lick the road clean for their tea when they were kids..... |
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"It was an innocent faux pas which he thought was private. Obviously in his position perhaps he should have known better, but it was nothing more or less than the type of throwaway banter anyone would say to their mates as a joke.
But this being the UK go watch everyone be offended and get their knickers in a right little twist over this! Funny how if a Labour PM calls a woman obnoxious for voicing overtly racist sentiments he is pilloried but when a Southern millionaire Tory Eaton boy PM insults a whole Northern county its nothing more than a joke.
Remind me to laugh...
ha... ha..."
You can't see the difference between the two situations? Cameron was clearly joking. It's called humour. Get over it.
Brown was put in a situation where a ' staged' walk round went very wrong in a very bad way. The woman was a lifelong staunch labour supporter, and was chosen to ' meet' Brown for that reason. When she then went on to question labour's policies on immigration ( I don't know how you make that out to be overtly racist), it went pearshaped. And that's when Brown was heard calling her a racist and a bigot, and asking what idiot chose her for him to meet.
Cameron said what he said in lighthearted manner, Brown was angry, frustrated, wanted someone sacked for putting him in that situation, and called someone a racist and a bigot for asking a non PC question. |
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"I'm so glad my muttered comments don't get picked up on microphones or I'd have offended just about everyone I've ever met by now
It is really easy to forget you're wearing a mic.
Is there a backstory there? "
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"Mike harding seems to have got it spot on.
'An arrogant, small-minded, know-nothing, over promoted, vacuous, privileged, con man. A lick-spittle buffoon, a three faced Bullingdon boy, a despiser of the poor and the worker, a friend of Murdoch and his ginger moll Rebekah Brooks, a liar who promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" then proceeded to sell it off to his pals. A man of no principles who serves his master the City Boys and the international financiers.
A man who thinks dying children on a mediterranean beach are a swarm.
A man who has never worked in his life, who has no understanding of the North, the powerhouse which made the Empire and which was tossed on the scrap heap once his class, the Establishment, had had what they wanted from it. He dares to make a cheap jibe about the people of Yorkshire.
Well walk round the streets of Barnsley or D_nny saying that David and see how long you last - you nothing, you comma on the long story of Life, you blip on the line of history. Like Blair you will be seen by historians for what you really are - a puppet of the bankers and the gold men, a user of too much of the world's space and oxygen. May you be crushed to death by a giant Yorkshire pudding, may a ton of Scarborough mint rock fall on you, may a Yorkshire terrier rip you to pieces and may a team of strong Yorkshire lasses scatter you to the four corners of the Earth you silly silly man.'"
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David Cameron has got it spot on, though perhaps hate is too strong a word.
Yorkshire people are in effect very tribal, each town or village is very partisan and prejudicial against other towns and villages.
However it is not a simple as that as they will all work together if an outsider attacks Yorkshire.
In this way they are like a family having its own rows and arguments but if an outsider buts in the family comes together to overcome the outsider.
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"I'm so glad my muttered comments don't get picked up on microphones or I'd have offended just about everyone I've ever met by now "
I've picked up on it ,offended here deeply |
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"So you've just basically said you can please everyone but this issue is on care about so it doesn't matter then gone on to say ideally they shouldn't exist (if personally disagree there if they didn't exist the cold war would have ended in a lot more blood shed as we'd have happily decided to mock fuck out of each other)
I gave you one simple issue and with your "basic life akills" you completely failed to address it.
No, someone else said they don't care. And after thinking about it it seems true. They do not care to represent everyone, despite their being enough politicians willing to do so.
You can please everyone, it's called give and take, compromise. Not one type of person gets everything they want. Everyone would be considered as having needs, and the needs would override the wants.
Ideally we would live in a world that does not have weapons, that's why i don;t care to discuss them or make any point about them at all. Some countries aren't allowed nuclear weapons and are attacked for that, why do we get permission to be the only paranoid country? What makes our lives more special than anyone elses?
We live in a fucked up world, politics is contributing to that. The way they're shaping society is contributing to that. Their lies are contributing to that."
I appreciate this is only a snapshot of your post;
"You can please everyone, it's called give and take, compromise. Not one type of person gets everything they want".
That really doesn't please everyone does it?
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"David Cameron has been caught off-camera talking about people in Yorkshire "hating each other".
The Prime Minister was picked up on a microphone saying: "We just thought people in Yorkshire hated everyone else, we didn't think they hated each other so much.""
It was a joke.
Like all humour, some will laugh, some won't.
Nobody died.
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"So you've just basically said you can please everyone but this issue is on care about so it doesn't matter then gone on to say ideally they shouldn't exist (if personally disagree there if they didn't exist the cold war would have ended in a lot more blood shed as we'd have happily decided to mock fuck out of each other)
I gave you one simple issue and with your "basic life akills" you completely failed to address it.
No, someone else said they don't care. And after thinking about it it seems true. They do not care to represent everyone, despite their being enough politicians willing to do so.
You can please everyone, it's called give and take, compromise. Not one type of person gets everything they want. Everyone would be considered as having needs, and the needs would override the wants.
Ideally we would live in a world that does not have weapons, that's why i don;t care to discuss them or make any point about them at all. Some countries aren't allowed nuclear weapons and are attacked for that, why do we get permission to be the only paranoid country? What makes our lives more special than anyone elses?
We live in a fucked up world, politics is contributing to that. The way they're shaping society is contributing to that. Their lies are contributing to that."
Bo you said you don't care it was your last paragraph no one else had even got involved.
You don't care and won't disscus what is currently a major global issue? (Russian nuclear missiles have been moved to the EU border due to recent events)
But you say a party can represent and please everyone?
Your _iews are basically so myopic that you suggest poltitians should represent everyone equally when what you mean is "they should deal with my issues" but sorry your issues are local and trivial our leaders need to be focused more on the world stage at the upper level because that's what the country needs.
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing..
I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people .
Bet he's never worked a real job, or even scubbed his own toilet. Or ever had to go hungry so his kids can eat. Or had to choose between heating or eating. Or been put under any kind of mental pressure at all, thanks to his priviliged bubble.
It's all good and well travelling and observing from a distance in extremely short periods when wanting votes, but being in that situation yourself makes a big difference..
I would think that he is under considerable mental pressure but is trained to take it. His life and actions are monitored non stop. 24/7
He has no experience of life outside of a privileged bubble. He doesn't understand most of the people he is supposed to represent. Therefore, from my _iew, he cannot know what's best for them.
Do you think Cameron has any understanding, or empathy, for people? Do you think maybe his policies pushed someone into doing this: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ashton-job-centre-man-petrol-10038444.
With reference to the link , only a total nut case would dose themself in petrol. How could this be linked to David Cameron . ?.
If David Cameron did not understand people , he would hardly have been elected as Prime Minister . More voters voted for his party than any other party . We are only able to help the poor by having a stable economic background from which to provide funds .
I didn't vote for him for a start, he does not represent me and i have never wanted him to.
Do you understand what makes someone a 'nutcase' though? Mental pressure can.
If our PM had any experience of life outside of a privileged bubble he would know his policies harm people. He would know food banks are NOT 'a good thing' - children starving and their parnets having to beg for food is NOT 'a good thing' and he would NOT contradict himself by saying the welfare state is 'a bad thing'. Because they're both the same thing, welfare is welfare. He's just unexperienced in life itself, and why wouldn't he be when he pays everyone else to experience it for him?
How can the current governments policies harm people ?. We have a welfare system which provides a a safey net for those in need.
There is no need to worry about food banks . They only exist because people choose to spend their benefits on other things .
There is nothing wrong in coming from what you refer to as a privileged background . You do not need to have been unemployed in order to understand how unemployment impacts on people ..I assist someone who is mentally ill. However I would not need to be mentally ill in order to new able to provide assistance . What actually maters is life experience and David Cameron has a lot more of that thsn someone who has been unemployed . .
There is no safety net any more, that's gone now because you can be sanctioned for up to a whole year. This means not entitled to benefits for a whole year, even if you've paid taxes and NI for the right to be looked after if you lose your job.
Most people need food banks because their benefit payments are delayed or they get sanctioned. They aren't getting any money or not getting enough money, despite the law saying you need *whatever* amount to live on. Can you see now where i'm coming from? This government breaks it's own laws.
If you got sanctioned and felt like killing yourself who would you blame? Yourself for being nothing in a system that doesn't care for you or the system itself? I know which one i'd blame.
Cameron has no experience outside of his bubble. If he did he would not say that charity is wrong when it comes to his responsibility to dole it out and insist charity is right when everyone but him is doing it. He doesn't understand why it's not right to harm people and give them a value lesser than himself.
He thinks it's ok to starve his own people, yet him and his cronies get subsidised food and alcohol on our behalf and they can afford to buy it full price. Sorry but what part of fucked up privilege do you agree with here?"
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"It was an innocent faux pas which he thought was private. Obviously in his position perhaps he should have known better, but it was nothing more or less than the type of throwaway banter anyone would say to their mates as a joke.
But this being the UK go watch everyone be offended and get their knickers in a right little twist over this! Funny how if a Labour PM calls a woman obnoxious for voicing overtly racist sentiments he is pilloried but when a Southern millionaire Tory Eaton boy PM insults a whole Northern county its nothing more than a joke.
Remind me to laugh...
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"Mike Harding was a 70's comic/ folk singer.
He's done nothing of note for about 30 years and is about as relevant to Yorkshire as Sean Connect is to Scotland
He sounds like he needs a hug, or possibly a cup of Yorkshire tea and a slice of Parkin."
Well tickle me ferrets n fluff me little pigeons, but parkin, in slices. By God tha turning me soft thete Nellie. |
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"So you've just basically said you can please everyone but this issue is on care about so it doesn't matter then gone on to say ideally they shouldn't exist (if personally disagree there if they didn't exist the cold war would have ended in a lot more blood shed as we'd have happily decided to mock fuck out of each other)
I gave you one simple issue and with your "basic life akills" you completely failed to address it.
No, someone else said they don't care. And after thinking about it it seems true. They do not care to represent everyone, despite their being enough politicians willing to do so.
You can please everyone, it's called give and take, compromise. Not one type of person gets everything they want. Everyone would be considered as having needs, and the needs would override the wants.
Ideally we would live in a world that does not have weapons, that's why i don;t care to discuss them or make any point about them at all. Some countries aren't allowed nuclear weapons and are attacked for that, why do we get permission to be the only paranoid country? What makes our lives more special than anyone elses?
We live in a fucked up world, politics is contributing to that. The way they're shaping society is contributing to that. Their lies are contributing to that.
Bo you said you don't care it was your last paragraph no one else had even got involved.
You don't care and won't disscus what is currently a major global issue? (Russian nuclear missiles have been moved to the EU border due to recent events)
But you say a party can represent and please everyone?
Your _iews are basically so myopic that you suggest poltitians should represent everyone equally when what you mean is "they should deal with my issues" but sorry your issues are local and trivial our leaders need to be focused more on the world stage at the upper level because that's what the country needs.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i hear the "yorkshire liberation front" are really pissed off.....
death by rhubarb i hear.......
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Fuck off! They're the "liberation front of Yorkshire"! |
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Getting back to governments, as a worker not a scrounger, I'll vote for whoever will keep big business's turning over so i can stay employed. Like it or not without them there's no money for me or those on benefits and those who rely on benefits. |
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"Getting back to governments, as a worker not a scrounger, I'll vote for whoever will keep big business's turning over so i can stay employed. Like it or not without them there's no money for me or those on benefits and those who rely on benefits."
. Excellent post. Some people fail to realise that we need a vibrant economy in order to pay for the welfare services provided.
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I know of 6 yorkshire men ,,,,, 1 is a great fella the other 5 are ,,,,,,shall we just say different
there is certainly more of a case of independence for Yorkshire than Scotland |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing..
I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people .
Bet he's never worked a real job, or even scubbed his own toilet. Or ever had to go hungry so his kids can eat. Or had to choose between heating or eating. Or been put under any kind of mental pressure at all, thanks to his priviliged bubble.
It's all good and well travelling and observing from a distance in extremely short periods when wanting votes, but being in that situation yourself makes a big difference..
I would think that he is under considerable mental pressure but is trained to take it. His life and actions are monitored non stop. 24/7
He has no experience of life outside of a privileged bubble. He doesn't understand most of the people he is supposed to represent. Therefore, from my _iew, he cannot know what's best for them.
Do you think Cameron has any understanding, or empathy, for people? Do you think maybe his policies pushed someone into doing this: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ashton-job-centre-man-petrol-10038444.
With reference to the link , only a total nut case would dose themself in petrol. How could this be linked to David Cameron . ?.
If David Cameron did not understand people , he would hardly have been elected as Prime Minister . More voters voted for his party than any other party . We are only able to help the poor by having a stable economic background from which to provide funds .
I didn't vote for him for a start, he does not represent me and i have never wanted him to.
Do you understand what makes someone a 'nutcase' though? Mental pressure can.
If our PM had any experience of life outside of a privileged bubble he would know his policies harm people. He would know food banks are NOT 'a good thing' - children starving and their parnets having to beg for food is NOT 'a good thing' and he would NOT contradict himself by saying the welfare state is 'a bad thing'. Because they're both the same thing, welfare is welfare. He's just unexperienced in life itself, and why wouldn't he be when he pays everyone else to experience it for him?
How can the current governments policies harm people ?. We have a welfare system which provides a a safey net for those in need.
There is no need to worry about food banks . They only exist because people choose to spend their benefits on other things .
There is nothing wrong in coming from what you refer to as a privileged background . You do not need to have been unemployed in order to understand how unemployment impacts on people ..I assist someone who is mentally ill. However I would not need to be mentally ill in order to new able to provide assistance . What actually maters is life experience and David Cameron has a lot more of that thsn someone who has been unemployed . .
There is no safety net any more, that's gone now because you can be sanctioned for up to a whole year. This means not entitled to benefits for a whole year, even if you've paid taxes and NI for the right to be looked after if you lose your job.
Most people need food banks because their benefit payments are delayed or they get sanctioned. They aren't getting any money or not getting enough money, despite the law saying you need *whatever* amount to live on. Can you see now where i'm coming from? This government breaks it's own laws.
If you got sanctioned and felt like killing yourself who would you blame? Yourself for being nothing in a system that doesn't care for you or the system itself? I know which one i'd blame.
Cameron has no experience outside of his bubble. If he did he would not say that charity is wrong when it comes to his responsibility to dole it out and insist charity is right when everyone but him is doing it. He doesn't understand why it's not right to harm people and give them a value lesser than himself.
He thinks it's ok to starve his own people, yet him and his cronies get subsidised food and alcohol on our behalf and they can afford to buy it full price. Sorry but what part of fucked up privilege do you agree with here?
Turn up for your apointments?
Phone ahead if going to be late?
To get sanctioned you have to do something stupid."
no the govt has to do something stupid chrismas a few years ago was unemployes and signing on went to sign on as normal and informed the social that i would be away from december 24th untill the 29th visiting family .had to fill out a form informing them of this to continue to recieve benefits . return on 29th to find aletter requesting me to attend an inter_iew at the job center about my claim on the 28th . immediatly phoned to be told i was to be sanctioned for non attendance went in next day with my copy of the form told it did not matter i was to be sanctioned .now tell me where i was stupid in not being able to attend an inter_iew i knw nothing about ?also ringing ahead if your running ate has no effect whatso ever just gives them more time to prepare to sanction you
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By *ildt123Man
over a year ago
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Not an important comment in the scheme of things, he's allowed to joke though I find Yorkshire folk, and I am one, the friendliest people I have met.
No we don't hate Lancastrians, but we do enjoy a bit of banter.
As for Mike Harding wasn't he the Rochdale cowboy as in from Lancashire don't think we need him to fight our corner thx
It's a bit of a daft thing to say for a man who wants votes and you can guarantee he thinks similarly of all northern folk as it's something of a trend in the southern upper class world I suspect but not sure I give a damn |
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"He doesn't even know anything of people outside of his own privileged bubble. Doesn't matter what he said, he knows nothing..
I would have thought that he is much more travelled and educated than most people .
Bet he's never worked a real job, or even scubbed his own toilet. Or ever had to go hungry so his kids can eat. Or had to choose between heating or eating. Or been put under any kind of mental pressure at all, thanks to his priviliged bubble.
It's all good and well travelling and observing from a distance in extremely short periods when wanting votes, but being in that situation yourself makes a big difference..
I would think that he is under considerable mental pressure but is trained to take it. His life and actions are monitored non stop. 24/7
He has no experience of life outside of a privileged bubble. He doesn't understand most of the people he is supposed to represent. Therefore, from my _iew, he cannot know what's best for them.
Do you think Cameron has any understanding, or empathy, for people? Do you think maybe his policies pushed someone into doing this: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ashton-job-centre-man-petrol-10038444.
With reference to the link , only a total nut case would dose themself in petrol. How could this be linked to David Cameron . ?.
If David Cameron did not understand people , he would hardly have been elected as Prime Minister . More voters voted for his party than any other party . We are only able to help the poor by having a stable economic background from which to provide funds .
I didn't vote for him for a start, he does not represent me and i have never wanted him to.
Do you understand what makes someone a 'nutcase' though? Mental pressure can.
If our PM had any experience of life outside of a privileged bubble he would know his policies harm people. He would know food banks are NOT 'a good thing' - children starving and their parnets having to beg for food is NOT 'a good thing' and he would NOT contradict himself by saying the welfare state is 'a bad thing'. Because they're both the same thing, welfare is welfare. He's just unexperienced in life itself, and why wouldn't he be when he pays everyone else to experience it for him?
How can the current governments policies harm people ?. We have a welfare system which provides a a safey net for those in need.
There is no need to worry about food banks . They only exist because people choose to spend their benefits on other things .
There is nothing wrong in coming from what you refer to as a privileged background . You do not need to have been unemployed in order to understand how unemployment impacts on people ..I assist someone who is mentally ill. However I would not need to be mentally ill in order to new able to provide assistance . What actually maters is life experience and David Cameron has a lot more of that thsn someone who has been unemployed . .
There is no safety net any more, that's gone now because you can be sanctioned for up to a whole year. This means not entitled to benefits for a whole year, even if you've paid taxes and NI for the right to be looked after if you lose your job.
Most people need food banks because their benefit payments are delayed or they get sanctioned. They aren't getting any money or not getting enough money, despite the law saying you need *whatever* amount to live on. Can you see now where i'm coming from? This government breaks it's own laws.
If you got sanctioned and felt like killing yourself who would you blame? Yourself for being nothing in a system that doesn't care for you or the system itself? I know which one i'd blame.
Cameron has no experience outside of his bubble. If he did he would not say that charity is wrong when it comes to his responsibility to dole it out and insist charity is right when everyone but him is doing it. He doesn't understand why it's not right to harm people and give them a value lesser than himself.
He thinks it's ok to starve his own people, yet him and his cronies get subsidised food and alcohol on our behalf and they can afford to buy it full price. Sorry but what part of fucked up privilege do you agree with here?
Turn up for your apointments?
Phone ahead if going to be late?
To get sanctioned you have to do something stupid.no the govt has to do something stupid chrismas a few years ago was unemployes and signing on went to sign on as normal and informed the social that i would be away from december 24th untill the 29th visiting family .had to fill out a form informing them of this to continue to recieve benefits . return on 29th to find aletter requesting me to attend an inter_iew at the job center about my claim on the 28th . immediatly phoned to be told i was to be sanctioned for non attendance went in next day with my copy of the form told it did not matter i was to be sanctioned .now tell me where i was stupid in not being able to attend an inter_iew i knw nothing about ?also ringing ahead if your running ate has no effect whatso ever just gives them more time to prepare to sanction you
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. In this post you do not state by how many days your payment was late ?. Most people would have some savings to tide them over . |
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"Mike Harding was a 70's comic/ folk singer.
He's done nothing of note for about 30 years and is about as relevant to Yorkshire as Sean Connect is to Scotland"
Don't know who Sean Connect is but if you mean Connery at least he was Scottish.
Mike Harding was born in Manchester and was best known as the Rochdale Cowboy.
Very relevant to Yorkshire. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
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"Getting back to governments, as a worker not a scrounger, I'll vote for whoever will keep big business's turning over so i can stay employed. Like it or not without them there's no money for me or those on benefits and those who rely on benefits.. Excellent post. Some people fail to realise that we need a vibrant economy in order to pay for the welfare services provided. "
Very well said!
Unfortunately, the people who fail to realise we need a vibrant economy include the chancellor of the exchequer, one George Osborne.  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
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. In this post you do not state by how many days your payment was late ?. Most people would have some savings to tide them over ."
A lot of folk don't have any savings to tide themselves over. That's why payday loans are taken out in such numbers.
For those unable to secure payday loans, there's always the loansharks and their baseball bat collection method. |
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Unless you're actually from Yorkshire, you'll never understand the patriotism. Except if you're from Barnsley as that's the Pitts
Yorkshire first, English second, British third |
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"It was an innocent faux pas which he thought was private. Obviously in his position perhaps he should have known better, but it was nothing more or less than the type of throwaway banter anyone would say to their mates as a joke.
But this being the UK go watch everyone be offended and get their knickers in a right little twist over this! Funny how if a Labour PM calls a woman obnoxious for voicing overtly racist sentiments he is pilloried but when a Southern millionaire Tory Eaton boy PM insults a whole Northern county its nothing more than a joke.
Remind me to laugh...
ha... ha..."
The whole "Southern millionaire Eaton boy" is such a poorly thought out insult.
I suspect that most of us had the shame choice about where we to be educated when we were young, someone much older than us told us where we were going and that was the end of it.
It's hardly his fault he had a better education than most of us.
And as far as being a millionaire goes, I bet he jumped up in the air, clicked his heels together and did a little whoop of joy, maybe even threw in a few cartwheels round the garden when found out he was a millionaire because he'd just inherited it.....
Envy is such an ugly trait. And to make it the entire base of your disliking someone?
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over a year ago
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"It was an innocent faux pas which he thought was private. Obviously in his position perhaps he should have known better, but it was nothing more or less than the type of throwaway banter anyone would say to their mates as a joke.
But this being the UK go watch everyone be offended and get their knickers in a right little twist over this! Funny how if a Labour PM calls a woman obnoxious for voicing overtly racist sentiments he is pilloried but when a Southern millionaire Tory Eaton boy PM insults a whole Northern county its nothing more than a joke.
Remind me to laugh...
ha... ha...
The whole "Southern millionaire Eaton boy" is such a poorly thought out insult.
I suspect that most of us had the shame choice about where we to be educated when we were young, someone much older than us told us where we were going and that was the end of it.
It's hardly his fault he had a better education than most of us.
And as far as being a millionaire goes, I bet he jumped up in the air, clicked his heels together and did a little whoop of joy, maybe even threw in a few cartwheels round the garden when found out he was a millionaire because he'd just inherited it.....
Envy is such an ugly trait. And to make it the entire base of your disliking someone?
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We don't dislike Cameron - we hate him and we hate him, not because he's a Southern millionaire Eton boy - we hate him cos he's a Tory prick. |
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"It was an innocent faux pas which he thought was private. Obviously in his position perhaps he should have known better, but it was nothing more or less than the type of throwaway banter anyone would say to their mates as a joke.
But this being the UK go watch everyone be offended and get their knickers in a right little twist over this! Funny how if a Labour PM calls a woman obnoxious for voicing overtly racist sentiments he is pilloried but when a Southern millionaire Tory Eaton boy PM insults a whole Northern county its nothing more than a joke.
Remind me to laugh...
ha... ha...
The whole "Southern millionaire Eaton boy" is such a poorly thought out insult.
I suspect that most of us had the shame choice about where we to be educated when we were young, someone much older than us told us where we were going and that was the end of it.
It's hardly his fault he had a better education than most of us.
And as far as being a millionaire goes, I bet he jumped up in the air, clicked his heels together and did a little whoop of joy, maybe even threw in a few cartwheels round the garden when found out he was a millionaire because he'd just inherited it.....
Envy is such an ugly trait. And to make it the entire base of your disliking someone?
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. At least he is making an effort to use his skills . Would people prefer if he sat around and did nothing ?. Hard work and success are probably in his genes . No matter what you inherit , you have to both manage and use it , or you could lose the lot very quickly ..
None of us have any control over how we look though we can present ourselves in the most favourable manner possible .
I prefer to admire successfull people , not envy them..It is much better to seek. standards as opopposed to lowering them. |
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over a year ago
Glasgow |
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. At least he is making an effort to use his skills . Would people prefer if he sat around and did nothing ?. Hard work and success are probably in his genes . No matter what you inherit , you have to both manage and use it , or you could lose the lot very quickly ..
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Yes, I'd much rather he sat about and did nothing. He'd be a lot less dangerous that way.
As for managing what you inherit, that's nonsense. You pay people to manage it for you. Accountants, solicitors, wealth management consultants and so on. |
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"It was an innocent faux pas which he thought was private. Obviously in his position perhaps he should have known better, but it was nothing more or less than the type of throwaway banter anyone would say to their mates as a joke.
But this being the UK go watch everyone be offended and get their knickers in a right little twist over this! Funny how if a Labour PM calls a woman obnoxious for voicing overtly racist sentiments he is pilloried but when a Southern millionaire Tory Eaton boy PM insults a whole Northern county its nothing more than a joke.
Remind me to laugh...
ha... ha...
The whole "Southern millionaire Eaton boy" is such a poorly thought out insult.
I suspect that most of us had the shame choice about where we to be educated when we were young, someone much older than us told us where we were going and that was the end of it.
It's hardly his fault he had a better education than most of us.
And as far as being a millionaire goes, I bet he jumped up in the air, clicked his heels together and did a little whoop of joy, maybe even threw in a few cartwheels round the garden when found out he was a millionaire because he'd just inherited it.....
Envy is such an ugly trait. And to make it the entire base of your disliking someone?
We don't dislike Cameron - we hate him and we hate him, not because he's a. Southern millionaire Eton boy - we hate him cos he's a Tory prick."
However more people are satisfied with him that any other leader . That is why he won the general election.. Envy has no place in the society in which I wish to live . |
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. At least he is making an effort to use his skills . Would people prefer if he sat around and did nothing ?. Hard work and success are probably in his genes . No matter what you inherit , you have to both manage and use it , or you could lose the lot very quickly ..
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Yes, I'd much rather he sat about and did nothing. He'd be a lot less dangerous that way.
As for managing what you inherit, that's nonsense. You pay people to manage it for you. Accountants, solicitors, wealth management consultants and so on."
. What could possibly be dangerous about David Cameron?. |
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over a year ago
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Yes, I'd much rather he sat about and did nothing. He'd be a lot less dangerous that way.
As for managing what you inherit, that's nonsense. You pay people to manage it for you. Accountants, solicitors, wealth management consultants and so on.. What could possibly be dangerous about David Cameron?. "
You're kidding?
Control over nuclear weapons?
Authority to kill people hundreds of miles away without due process? |
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"So you've just basically said you can please everyone but this issue is on care about so it doesn't matter then gone on to say ideally they shouldn't exist (if personally disagree there if they didn't exist the cold war would have ended in a lot more blood shed as we'd have happily decided to mock fuck out of each other)
I gave you one simple issue and with your "basic life akills" you completely failed to address it.
No, someone else said they don't care. And after thinking about it it seems true. They do not care to represent everyone, despite their being enough politicians willing to do so.
You can please everyone, it's called give and take, compromise. Not one type of person gets everything they want. Everyone would be considered as having needs, and the needs would override the wants.
Ideally we would live in a world that does not have weapons, that's why i don;t care to discuss them or make any point about them at all. Some countries aren't allowed nuclear weapons and are attacked for that, why do we get permission to be the only paranoid country? What makes our lives more special than anyone elses?
We live in a fucked up world, politics is contributing to that. The way they're shaping society is contributing to that. Their lies are contributing to that.
Bo you said you don't care it was your last paragraph no one else had even got involved.
You don't care and won't disscus what is currently a major global issue? (Russian nuclear missiles have been moved to the EU border due to recent events)
But you say a party can represent and please everyone?
Your _iews are basically so myopic that you suggest poltitians should represent everyone equally when what you mean is "they should deal with my issues" but sorry your issues are local and trivial our leaders need to be focused more on the world stage at the upper level because that's what the country needs.
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The government not caring is to do with the people of this country, that's what i took the original comment about 'do you think any of them care about us'. If you've started a separate discussion on caring that then i never noticed.
I don't care to discuss the need for nuclear weapons, i don't want to validate them because in an ideal world they aren't needed. Paranoid countries use them for 'protection'. Well as we can see the US has had terrorist attacks, we did as well but in June i think? Well they're useless, they didn't protect us from that. All they are is a threat and if they're ever used they're just going to destroy many innocent peoples lives and the generations that come along after that. Sorry i don't care to even attempt to justify that in any form.
Like i also said, what gives certain countries the right to be paranoid and 'protect' themselves but not others? That is how i feel about it, that is my opinion and the only opinion i care to promote. |
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"To get sanctioned you have to do something stupid."
So being stupid means you have to struggle for weeks on end as a punishment? It's ok to starve someone for doing something stupid? These are real people no matter how stupid they are, and trust me half the time the sanctions are for BS reasons as well because the job centre have targets to meet. |
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Yes, I'd much rather he sat about and did nothing. He'd be a lot less dangerous that way.
As for managing what you inherit, that's nonsense. You pay people to manage it for you. Accountants, solicitors, wealth management consultants and so on.. What could possibly be dangerous about David Cameron?.
You're kidding?
Control over nuclear weapons?
Authority to kill people hundreds of miles away without due process?"
Same as every leader of every country then. Which isn't actually true anyway. A leader may well have the authority to have the big red button pressed, but it certainly wouldn't be him doing the pressing.
In point of fact, no one singular person gets to press the button. There are several buttons, to be pressed by several people in different places.
And despite who gives the order, it only takes on of them to decide not to.....
I do love a sound basis for dislike.
I think you've been watching too many films with megalomaniac criminals.
No matter, Tom Cruise will be along in a minute to save the day. |
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"..........
In point of fact, no one singular person gets to press the button. There are several buttons, to be pressed by several people in different places.
And despite who gives the order, it only takes on of them to decide not to.....
I do love a sound basis for dislike.
I think you've been watching too many films with megalomaniac criminals.
No matter, Tom Cruise will be along in a minute to save the day."
And no one person's refusal to carry out an order will stop the firing sequence. |
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Yes, I'd much rather he sat about and did nothing. He'd be a lot less dangerous that way.
As for managing what you inherit, that's nonsense. You pay people to manage it for you. Accountants, solicitors, wealth management consultants and so on.. What could possibly be dangerous about David Cameron?.
You're kidding?
Control over nuclear weapons?
Authority to kill people hundreds of miles away without due process?"
. I think the same applies to any prime minister . As far as I am aware David Cameron has not killed anyone . If you are referring to the few terrorists who were taken out , there were valid reasons for doing so. We can hardly make military intelligence a matter for public record . We are being protected from a few fanatics . I do not think too many people will be too concerned or bothered about their deaths . I have no time for either terrorists or bombers . |
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By *nnyMan
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Yes, I'd much rather he sat about and did nothing. He'd be a lot less dangerous that way.
As for managing what you inherit, that's nonsense. You pay people to manage it for you. Accountants, solicitors, wealth management consultants and so on.. What could possibly be dangerous about David Cameron?.
You're kidding?
Control over nuclear weapons?
Authority to kill people hundreds of miles away without due process?. I think the same applies to any prime minister . As far as I am aware David Cameron has not killed anyone . If you are referring to the few terrorists who were taken out , there were valid reasons for doing so. We can hardly make military intelligence a matter for public record . We are being protected from a few fanatics . I do not think too many people will be too concerned or bothered about their deaths . I have no time for either terrorists or bombers . "
You're doing that 'reply to what you wish I'd written rather than what I wrote'.
I didn't say Cameron had liked anyone, just that he'd authorised it.
Valid reasons? Possibly. Probably. This time. Next time - who knows. |
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"..........
In point of fact, no one singular person gets to press the button. There are several buttons, to be pressed by several people in different places.
And despite who gives the order, it only takes on of them to decide not to.....
I do love a sound basis for dislike.
I think you've been watching too many films with megalomaniac criminals.
No matter, Tom Cruise will be along in a minute to save the day.
And no one person's refusal to carry out an order will stop the firing sequence."
What part of your own reply don't you understand?
Let me help.... If six people are required, in six different locations, to press six different buttons, and one decides not to, there is no firing sequence, there is no launch.
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"..........
In point of fact, no one singular person gets to press the button. There are several buttons, to be pressed by several people in different places.
And despite who gives the order, it only takes on of them to decide not to.....
I do love a sound basis for dislike.
I think you've been watching too many films with megalomaniac criminals.
No matter, Tom Cruise will be along in a minute to save the day.
And no one person's refusal to carry out an order will stop the firing sequence.
What part of your own reply don't you understand?
Let me help.... If six people are required, in six different locations, to press six different buttons, and one decides not to, there is no firing sequence, there is no launch.
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That's no help, cos it's wrong.
There ain't 6 but each 'finger on the button' has a replacement should anything untoward befall the primary launch officer. |
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"..........
In point of fact, no one singular person gets to press the button. There are several buttons, to be pressed by several people in different places.
And despite who gives the order, it only takes on of them to decide not to.....
I do love a sound basis for dislike.
I think you've been watching too many films with megalomaniac criminals.
No matter, Tom Cruise will be along in a minute to save the day.
And no one person's refusal to carry out an order will stop the firing sequence.
What part of your own reply don't you understand?
Let me help.... If six people are required, in six different locations, to press six different buttons, and one decides not to, there is no firing sequence, there is no launch.
That's no help, cos it's wrong.
There ain't 6 but each 'finger on the button' has a replacement should anything untoward befall the primary launch officer."
No, it doesn't change the fact that one person can decide not to press the button.
A secondary launch officer could decide not to press.
As could a third or a fourth or a fifth.
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"..........
In point of fact, no one singular person gets to press the button. There are several buttons, to be pressed by several people in different places.
And despite who gives the order, it only takes on of them to decide not to.....
I do love a sound basis for dislike.
I think you've been watching too many films with megalomaniac criminals.
No matter, Tom Cruise will be along in a minute to save the day.
And no one person's refusal to carry out an order will stop the firing sequence.
What part of your own reply don't you understand?
Let me help.... If six people are required, in six different locations, to press six different buttons, and one decides not to, there is no firing sequence, there is no launch.
That's no help, cos it's wrong.
There ain't 6 but each 'finger on the button' has a replacement should anything untoward befall the primary launch officer.
No, it doesn't change the fact that one person can decide not to press the button.
A secondary launch officer could decide not to press.
As could a third or a fourth or a fifth.
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You're just being silly. |
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In point of fact, no one singular person gets to press the button. There are several buttons, to be pressed by several people in different places.
And despite who gives the order, it only takes on of them to decide not to.....
I do love a sound basis for dislike.
I think you've been watching too many films with megalomaniac criminals.
No matter, Tom Cruise will be along in a minute to save the day.
And no one person's refusal to carry out an order will stop the firing sequence.
What part of your own reply don't you understand?
Let me help.... If six people are required, in six different locations, to press six different buttons, and one decides not to, there is no firing sequence, there is no launch.
That's no help, cos it's wrong.
There ain't 6 but each 'finger on the button' has a replacement should anything untoward befall the primary launch officer.
No, it doesn't change the fact that one person can decide not to press the button.
A secondary launch officer could decide not to press.
As could a third or a fourth or a fifth.
You're just being silly. "
I wasn't at all.
Your last comment nearly made me do a little wee. |
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