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"Open your home to a refugee x" Yes, if it didn't invalidate our landlord's insurance and our terms of contract. | |||
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"No chance here cant even get a 3 bed from the council x" Please don't say you are going to blame the immigrants for that? | |||
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"Yes as soon as the other rich middle east countries start doing the same so Saudi etc..... Why does it always have to be European countries expected to take refugees?" I'm not sure it's an expectation as such. More the fact that's where they're landing so it's down to Europe to deal with. I agree though. Millions of displaced refugees and America is deafeningly quiet. | |||
"If I had my own home yes. Why wouldn't you? They are escaping horrific war zones, they aren't convicts. (Well you would hope not)" You wouldn't know who you were inviting into your home | |||
"Yes as soon as the other rich middle east countries start doing the same so Saudi etc..... Why does it always have to be European countries expected to take refugees?" As well as an economic issue, it's also a geographic one - particularly considering there exists no real organised programme of evacuation - anyone who wants out has to find their own way. Sure, many see Europe for the stable and prosperous place it is, but many Syrian refugees don't have a huge amount of choice when you consider they must make their own way via the cheapest and most direct route to safety. The can either head west to Lebanon (which hundreds of thousand have - about 10 thousand per day) or south into Jordan (which they do in similar numbers as to Lebanon) or south/east to Iraq (highly dangerous when you consider that would take them even further into Daish held territory) or north into Turkey (which is also most likely given the direction of the Daish advance and capture of territory)... so which route would you take? Sure, I agree the richer Arab states need to do their bit, but until they do the refugees have very little choice about where to go. | |||
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"It,s funny the only people that will take one of these poor souls in are people that can not accommodate" Are you sure about that? | |||
"It,s funny the only people that will take one of these poor souls in are people that can not accommodate" I can only speak for myself but despite not being able to accommodate, I have been able to do other things like dropping clothes and food off at drop off points and donating money to charities who are helping people in this situation. I can't take people in but I will certainly do what I can. | |||
"It,s funny the only people that will take one of these poor souls in are people that can not accommodate" I wouldn't take any stranger into my house. That's aside from the possible language barrier and the trust issue. Not all will be escaping their government either.. some will be exploiting the situation just to enter our country.. Unfortunately this happens. | |||
"No chance here cant even get a 3 bed from the council x Please don't say you are going to blame the immigrants for that? " No the council very happy in my two bed flat and overcrowded I am lucky to have a roof over my head x | |||
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"No chance here cant even get a 3 bed from the council x Please don't say you are going to blame the immigrants for that? No the council very happy in my two bed flat and overcrowded I am lucky to have a roof over my head x" why are you overcrowded, I think it's 2 children per bedroom and if their the opposite sex until they are 11. Same sex indefinatly, I know me and my sister shared a bedroom | |||
"Open your home to a refugee x" Yes | |||
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"It,s funny the only people that will take one of these poor souls in are people that can not accommodate" We aren't planning to fuck them , we can't accommodate as we have a youngster . | |||
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"Open your home to a refugee x" No. There are far too many risks and I do not see it as being our responsibility to sort out issues which have arisen in other countries. In any event , how would you know if the refugee was genuine ?. | |||
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"It,s funny the only people that will take one of these poor souls in are people that can not accommodate I can only speak for myself but despite not being able to accommodate, I have been able to do other things like dropping clothes and food off at drop off points and donating money to charities who are helping people in this situation. I can't take people in but I will certainly do what I can." | |||
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"Open your home to a refugee x" Sorry but no. | |||
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"Open your home to a refugee x" Not a chance | |||
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"It is something I would seriously consider " wow think you are only person who said yes ,shows you have compassion | |||
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"Open your home to a refugee x" Nope. Would I give a room to an existing homeless person? Nope. | |||
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"It is something I would seriously consider wow think you are only person who said yes ,shows you have compassion " Nope I said yes. Its something I'm speaking to a charity about ATM | |||
"Open your home to a refugee x" No way, running away from a country with problems is not the way, they should stay there and sort it out instead of taking the easy option. Being ex forces myself I'm would be more likely to take in a homeless ex serviceman though. | |||
"Yes as soon as the other rich middle east countries start doing the same so Saudi etc..... Why does it always have to be European countries expected to take refugees? As well as an economic issue, it's also a geographic one - particularly considering there exists no real organised programme of evacuation - anyone who wants out has to find their own way. Sure, many see Europe for the stable and prosperous place it is, but many Syrian refugees don't have a huge amount of choice when you consider they must make their own way via the cheapest and most direct route to safety. The can either head west to Lebanon (which hundreds of thousand have - about 10 thousand per day) or south into Jordan (which they do in similar numbers as to Lebanon) or south/east to Iraq (highly dangerous when you consider that would take them even further into Daish held territory) or north into Turkey (which is also most likely given the direction of the Daish advance and capture of territory)... so which route would you take? Sure, I agree the richer Arab states need to do their bit, but until they do the refugees have very little choice about where to go." They should stay there and sort the problems out, would we all run to another country if we had similar problems in the UK? | |||
"Open your home to a refugee x No way, running away from a country with problems is not the way, they should stay there and sort it out instead of taking the easy option. Being ex forces myself I'm would be more likely to take in a homeless ex serviceman though." So you'd stay in a country where your kids are likely to get killed? | |||
"It is something I would seriously consider wow think you are only person who said yes ,shows you have compassion Nope I said yes. Its something I'm speaking to a charity about ATM " We said yes too ...... | |||
"Open your home to a refugee x No way, running away from a country with problems is not the way, they should stay there and sort it out instead of taking the easy option. Being ex forces myself I'm would be more likely to take in a homeless ex serviceman though. What a stupid thing to believe. " | |||
"Open your home to a refugee x No way, running away from a country with problems is not the way, they should stay there and sort it out instead of taking the easy option. Being ex forces myself I'm would be more likely to take in a homeless ex serviceman though. Why is its stupid? Its my opinion and I'm entitled to it What a stupid thing to believe. " | |||
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"It is something I would seriously consider wow think you are only person who said yes ,shows you have compassion Nope I said yes. Its something I'm speaking to a charity about ATM " Awwww ok well done you to xxx | |||
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"The utter lack of compassion from some is astounding and i'm not talking about people who just said no they wouldn't house a refugee. But some of the opinions imo lack human compassion. We are lucky to live here in the UK where we haven't really had to worry about war or famine. " Lucky! we was born here, we're entitled to live here and as for worrying about war etc tell that to N Ireland or the victims of the Ira or those involved in the 7/7 attacks, the bandsmen who were blown up in Hyde park whilst playing a concert even the queen who was shot at by some lunatic in the mall or Lee Rigby's family. We've had terrorist here for years I don't see anyone running away. As has already been stated the vast majority of these so call refugees are fit young men !!! As for famine, we've got starving people living on the streets, some just a few years ago before cutbacks were serving Queen and country defending us all from terrorists, what are we as a country doing about them? Not quiet famine I know but they are starving even so. | |||
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"If I had the room I I'd take a family. I would also take a homless ex serviceman if i could Sadly I don't have the space. " Ditto | |||
"No way iv been waiting for ten yrs for a 3 bed i wud of had if it wasent for them cunts getting all thay want and us english getting shit on in own back yard " And can I ask why you feel entitled to a council house? (I'm guessing council house here by the fact you said waiting for, please correct me if I'm wrong) | |||
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"No way iv been waiting for ten yrs for a 3 bed i wud of had if it wasent for them cunts getting all thay want and us english getting shit on in own back yard You're old enough to own your own property. I can see why Syrians wish to leave and have to leave their homes behind, but I can't see why you've failed. What is your excuse for having led your life so poorly and expecting to be given a home instead of working for it?" Ahh, a much better way of putting it than my previous post. | |||
"I'd love to revisit this in a year's time and see how many people, if any, who say they would actually did. " Why? | |||
"No way iv been waiting for ten yrs for a 3 bed i wud of had if it wasent for them cunts getting all thay want and us english getting shit on in own back yard " You're a couple. How come you can't afford a 3 bed without help from the government even after 10 years??? Maybe you need to look at the reasons for this. | |||
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"Open your home to a refugee x No way, running away from a country with problems is not the way, they should stay there and sort it out instead of taking the easy option. Being ex forces myself I'm would be more likely to take in a homeless ex serviceman though." Just like the Jew's who fled Paris (and other places) during the War, right? Cowardly lot. They should have stayed in Paris and sorted it out for themselves instead of taking the easy option and fleeing elsewhere. | |||
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"I'd love to revisit this in a year's time and see how many people, if any, who say they would actually did. Why?" Because I think it would be interesting. | |||
"I'd love to revisit this in a year's time and see how many people, if any, who say they would actually did. Why? Because I think it would be interesting. " Seems mean spirited to be cynical of people with good intentions. | |||
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"I'd love to revisit this in a year's time and see how many people, if any, who say they would actually did. Why? Because I think it would be interesting. Seems mean spirited to be cynical of people with good intentions. " I must be mean spirited then. | |||
"The utter lack of compassion from some is astounding and i'm not talking about people who just said no they wouldn't house a refugee. But some of the opinions imo lack human compassion. We are lucky to live here in the UK where we haven't really had to worry about war or famine. Lucky! we was born here, we're entitled to live here and as for worrying about war etc tell that to N Ireland or the victims of the Ira or those involved in the 7/7 attacks, the bandsmen who were blown up in Hyde park whilst playing a concert even the queen who was shot at by some lunatic in the mall or Lee Rigby's family. We've had terrorist here for years I don't see anyone running away. As has already been stated the vast majority of these so call refugees are fit young men !!! As for famine, we've got starving people living on the streets, some just a few years ago before cutbacks were serving Queen and country defending us all from terrorists, what are we as a country doing about them? Not quiet famine I know but they are starving even so." We're not 'entitled' to be anywhere. We're all human beings, just being born somewhere doesn't give someone entitlement to a life of privilege. We should be sharing our resources with people who have less. We might have had the odd terrorist in the UK (a statistically tiny amount of attacks) but that is nothing like what is happening in some places in the Middle East right now. The UK government played a massive part in destabilising their countries and now terror *armies* have got a hold. They're not individual terrorists beheading a guy in the street or blowing up a single building - this is a terrorist army that is systematically making it's way through towns and cities, raping and killing people who stand in the way of them. These are people who use rape as a tactic of war and control. To subdue the population and make them do what you want. They think nothing about murdering entire families. I don't even know why i'm writing this. You don't care. You think you have it hard here in the UK? You're fucking deluded. | |||
"Open your home to a refugee x No way, running away from a country with problems is not the way, they should stay there and sort it out instead of taking the easy option. Being ex forces myself I'm would be more likely to take in a homeless ex serviceman though. Just like the Jew's who fled Paris (and other places) during the War, right? Cowardly lot. They should have stayed in Paris and sorted it out for themselves instead of taking the easy option and fleeing elsewhere." Most of the Jews were families, women and children, look at the media reports most of this lot are young fit men and I'm not sure but I very much doubt if ISIS is anywhere near the size and strength of Hitlers armies. These ISIS people need to be stopped why shouldn't the people affected most have a hand in it? | |||
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"Strange how the ones that say they would cant, I'm not going to lower myself to trading insults, like I said if you don't like my opinion MOVE ON ! I'm not interested in these young fit men who are running away and then expecting us to give them "help" I'm self employed, everything I've got I worked hard for, I served in N Ireland back in the day, I'm no hero never was but I wouldn't run away. BTW I've got 2 houses and NO I bloody wouldn't put them up, if they get this far send the buggers back to fight their own fight with help from our troops, UN, America or whoever but send these young fit guys back." Maybe that's just it. I'm self employed. I'm a student. I've known real poverty, I've gone without food for several days because I didn't have a way to buy it. I've been ill because I couldn't afford a house with heating or hot water. I've worked hard for everything I have, and now I have a reasonably nice lifestyle. I don't have two houses - I wouldn't need two houses anyway, I have a house that I rent with my partners. I won't send these people back to die. I wont be an accessory to murdering people. I don't believe in conscription, I don't believe it would be good for our country and therefore I don't believe it's something that we should enforce on others. I don't believe in turning children and young people into soldiers against their will. These people could have so much future. They could become talented doctors, vets, policepeople, laywers.. but instead people want to put guns in their hands and send them back to a warzone to be canonfodder. How touching. I guess because I've known what it's like to have nothing, and because I've worked for everything that I've got, that I believe we much show compassion to other humans. That we should help them. Not by putting guns in their hands, but by feeding them, housing them, and educating them. Because we make the world better with education. Not with guns. | |||
"Open your home to a refugee x No way, running away from a country with problems is not the way, they should stay there and sort it out instead of taking the easy option. Being ex forces myself I'm would be more likely to take in a homeless ex serviceman though. Just like the Jew's who fled Paris (and other places) during the War, right? Cowardly lot. They should have stayed in Paris and sorted it out for themselves instead of taking the easy option and fleeing elsewhere. Most of the Jews were families, women and children, look at the media reports most of this lot are young fit men and I'm not sure but I very much doubt if ISIS is anywhere near the size and strength of Hitlers armies. These ISIS people need to be stopped why shouldn't the people affected most have a hand in it?" The estimate for ISIS troops is approximately 200k millitants on the ground. With weapons more powerful and damaging than Hitler's troops ever had. In a country that is already torn apart. | |||
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"The utter lack of compassion from some is astounding and i'm not talking about people who just said no they wouldn't house a refugee. But some of the opinions imo lack human compassion. We are lucky to live here in the UK where we haven't really had to worry about war or famine. Lucky! we was born here, we're entitled to live here and as for worrying about war etc tell that to N Ireland or the victims of the Ira or those involved in the 7/7 attacks, the bandsmen who were blown up in Hyde park whilst playing a concert even the queen who was shot at by some lunatic in the mall or Lee Rigby's family. We've had terrorist here for years I don't see anyone running away. As has already been stated the vast majority of these so call refugees are fit young men !!! As for famine, we've got starving people living on the streets, some just a few years ago before cutbacks were serving Queen and country defending us all from terrorists, what are we as a country doing about them? Not quiet famine I know but they are starving even so. We're not 'entitled' to be anywhere. We're all human beings, just being born somewhere doesn't give someone entitlement to a life of privilege. We should be sharing our resources with people who have less. We might have had the odd terrorist in the UK (a statistically tiny amount of attacks) but that is nothing like what is happening in some places in the Middle East right now. The UK government played a massive part in destabilising their countries and now terror *armies* have got a hold. They're not individual terrorists beheading a guy in the street or blowing up a single building - this is a terrorist army that is systematically making it's way through towns and cities, raping and killing people who stand in the way of them. These are people who use rape as a tactic of war and control. To subdue the population and make them do what you want. They think nothing about murdering entire families. I don't even know why i'm writing this. You don't care. You think you have it hard here in the UK? You're fucking deluded." I don't think I've got it hard here in the Uk neither do I think I'm entitled to live a privileged life, I work hard for what I've got but we are entitled to be here, being born a Uk citizen and holding a Uk passport entitles you to live here, what do you think half these buggers are after. No I don't give a shit about all these young fit men that are running away that will only help the terrorist armies get bigger and stronger at some point someone has got to stop them. | |||
"The utter lack of compassion from some is astounding and i'm not talking about people who just said no they wouldn't house a refugee. But some of the opinions imo lack human compassion. We are lucky to live here in the UK where we haven't really had to worry about war or famine. Lucky! we was born here, we're entitled to live here and as for worrying about war etc tell that to N Ireland or the victims of the Ira or those involved in the 7/7 attacks, the bandsmen who were blown up in Hyde park whilst playing a concert even the queen who was shot at by some lunatic in the mall or Lee Rigby's family. We've had terrorist here for years I don't see anyone running away. As has already been stated the vast majority of these so call refugees are fit young men !!! As for famine, we've got starving people living on the streets, some just a few years ago before cutbacks were serving Queen and country defending us all from terrorists, what are we as a country doing about them? Not quiet famine I know but they are starving even so. We're not 'entitled' to be anywhere. We're all human beings, just being born somewhere doesn't give someone entitlement to a life of privilege. We should be sharing our resources with people who have less. We might have had the odd terrorist in the UK (a statistically tiny amount of attacks) but that is nothing like what is happening in some places in the Middle East right now. The UK government played a massive part in destabilising their countries and now terror *armies* have got a hold. They're not individual terrorists beheading a guy in the street or blowing up a single building - this is a terrorist army that is systematically making it's way through towns and cities, raping and killing people who stand in the way of them. These are people who use rape as a tactic of war and control. To subdue the population and make them do what you want. They think nothing about murdering entire families. I don't even know why i'm writing this. You don't care. You think you have it hard here in the UK? You're fucking deluded. I don't think I've got it hard here in the Uk neither do I think I'm entitled to live a privileged life, I work hard for what I've got but we are entitled to be here, being born a Uk citizen and holding a Uk passport entitles you to live here, what do you think half these buggers are after. No I don't give a shit about all these young fit men that are running away that will only help the terrorist armies get bigger and stronger at some point someone has got to stop them." So, do 'young, fit men' not deserve a life away from war then? | |||
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"Open your home to a refugee x No way, running away from a country with problems is not the way, they should stay there and sort it out instead of taking the easy option. Being ex forces myself I'm would be more likely to take in a homeless ex serviceman though. Just like the Jew's who fled Paris (and other places) during the War, right? Cowardly lot. They should have stayed in Paris and sorted it out for themselves instead of taking the easy option and fleeing elsewhere. Most of the Jews were families, women and children, look at the media reports most of this lot are young fit men and I'm not sure but I very much doubt if ISIS is anywhere near the size and strength of Hitlers armies. These ISIS people need to be stopped why shouldn't the people affected most have a hand in it? The estimate for ISIS troops is approximately 200k millitants on the ground. With weapons more powerful and damaging than Hitler's troops ever had. In a country that is already torn apart." So running away is going to sort it out? Obviously the weapons are more powerful its 70 odd years on but they are in the hands of terrorists, at best semi trained troops, Hitler's troops at the beginning of the war were highly trained and motivated these are not of the same calibre and I'm sure Hitler had more troops that they have. | |||
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"The utter lack of compassion from some is astounding and i'm not talking about people who just said no they wouldn't house a refugee. But some of the opinions imo lack human compassion. We are lucky to live here in the UK where we haven't really had to worry about war or famine. Lucky! we was born here, we're entitled to live here and as for worrying about war etc tell that to N Ireland or the victims of the Ira or those involved in the 7/7 attacks, the bandsmen who were blown up in Hyde park whilst playing a concert even the queen who was shot at by some lunatic in the mall or Lee Rigby's family. We've had terrorist here for years I don't see anyone running away. As has already been stated the vast majority of these so call refugees are fit young men !!! As for famine, we've got starving people living on the streets, some just a few years ago before cutbacks were serving Queen and country defending us all from terrorists, what are we as a country doing about them? Not quiet famine I know but they are starving even so. We're not 'entitled' to be anywhere. We're all human beings, just being born somewhere doesn't give someone entitlement to a life of privilege. We should be sharing our resources with people who have less. We might have had the odd terrorist in the UK (a statistically tiny amount of attacks) but that is nothing like what is happening in some places in the Middle East right now. The UK government played a massive part in destabilising their countries and now terror *armies* have got a hold. They're not individual terrorists beheading a guy in the street or blowing up a single building - this is a terrorist army that is systematically making it's way through towns and cities, raping and killing people who stand in the way of them. These are people who use rape as a tactic of war and control. To subdue the population and make them do what you want. They think nothing about murdering entire families. I don't even know why i'm writing this. You don't care. You think you have it hard here in the UK? You're fucking deluded. I don't think I've got it hard here in the Uk neither do I think I'm entitled to live a privileged life, I work hard for what I've got but we are entitled to be here, being born a Uk citizen and holding a Uk passport entitles you to live here, what do you think half these buggers are after. No I don't give a shit about all these young fit men that are running away that will only help the terrorist armies get bigger and stronger at some point someone has got to stop them. So, do 'young, fit men' not deserve a life away from war then? " No not unless they are going to do something to help themselves like we did in two world wars like the Iraq/ Iran wars and like Bosnia. They need to fight (with help) then they will get peace. Do you honestly think its better to run and let the terrorists take over ever increasing areas of the world until we are all huddled in one corner quivering begging for mercy. | |||
"For consideration but I'm not sure anyone deserves to suffer my quirks. Are churches being left open for them? That would help them to deserve their tax free status." I don't know about other churches but in my local one that's not currently possible as a result of insurance etc. But the church house where the priest lives alone is big, so they're in discussions with the council about how this could be used to help. | |||
"Strange how the ones that say they would cant, I'm not going to lower myself to trading insults, like I said if you don't like my opinion MOVE ON ! I'm not interested in these young fit men who are running away and then expecting us to give them "help" I'm self employed, everything I've got I worked hard for, I served in N Ireland back in the day, I'm no hero never was but I wouldn't run away. BTW I've got 2 houses and NO I bloody wouldn't put them up, if they get this far send the buggers back to fight their own fight with help from our troops, UN, America or whoever but send these young fit guys back. Maybe that's just it. I'm self employed. I'm a student. I've known real poverty, I've gone without food for several days because I didn't have a way to buy it. I've been ill because I couldn't afford a house with heating or hot water. I've worked hard for everything I have, and now I have a reasonably nice lifestyle. I don't have two houses - I wouldn't need two houses anyway, I have a house that I rent with my partners. I won't send these people back to die. I wont be an accessory to murdering people. I don't believe in conscription, I don't believe it would be good for our country and therefore I don't believe it's something that we should enforce on others. I don't believe in turning children and young people into soldiers against their will. These people could have so much future. They could become talented doctors, vets, policepeople, laywers.. but instead people want to put guns in their hands and send them back to a warzone to be canonfodder. How touching. I guess because I've known what it's like to have nothing, and because I've worked for everything that I've got, that I believe we much show compassion to other humans. That we should help them. Not by putting guns in their hands, but by feeding them, housing them, and educating them. Because we make the world better with education. Not with guns." And in the meantime ISIS and the likes just get bigger and stronger, having an education wont stop terrorists, guns will, I'm not talking about conscripts, I really cant understand why these young fit guys want to run away, what if we had done that against the Nazi's in 1939 or the argentines in the Falklands | |||
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"Open your home to a refugee x" No. No spare bedrooms and a tiny house. And a small child. Too much of a risk. | |||
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"Open your home to a refugee x" I couldn't. My autistic son wouldn't be able to cope with anymore people in the house with the extra day to day noise (opening and closing doors, light switches, coughing, sneezing, etc.), even if it was just one person! | |||
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