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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Can you do 2, 3, 5 and 10?
2,5,10 easy prob just scrap 3 "
It's usually add one or take away one for 2, 5 and 10 to get to most of the others.
There is a really easy way to do three. Look at your palm. The fingers are broken down into three segments so you can get the answer to 3x8 really quickly.
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"Does it mean ur thick if u reach 40 and still don't know ur times table ? . I'm talking about myself ! "
Nope... I don't either.
Dyscalculia. It has a name. I always just thought I was thick when I came to maths.  |
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"Can you do 2, 3, 5 and 10?
2,5,10 easy prob just scrap 3
It's usually add one or take away one for 2, 5 and 10 to get to most of the others.
There is a really easy way to do three. Look at your palm. The fingers are broken down into three segments so you can get the answer to 3x8 really quickly.
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what ? . Iv never admited openly to not knowing them before , wonderd if there were others in same boat ? Will people think I'm thick ? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Does it mean ur thick if u reach 40 and still don't know ur times table ? . I'm talking about myself !
Nope... I don't either.
Dyscalculia. It has a name. I always just thought I was thick when I came to maths. "
Me too. I have to use numbers a lot in my work, and I don't trust Excel, so I take extra care to check and double check.
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We learnt then by rote at school, and was the best thing we did ( not enjoyable though lol)
I just wish my kids were taught that way now 
I've tried introducing it at home, but they look at me as if I'm crazy  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Can you do 2, 3, 5 and 10?
2,5,10 easy prob just scrap 3
It's usually add one or take away one for 2, 5 and 10 to get to most of the others.
There is a really easy way to do three. Look at your palm. The fingers are broken down into three segments so you can get the answer to 3x8 really quickly.
what ? . Iv never admited openly to not knowing them before , wonderd if there were others in same boat ? Will people think I'm thick ? "
The tricks I use for getting the answer to the 4 and 6 or 9 times table is to deduct 1 from 5 or 10 or add 1 to the fives times table for the 6 times table.
11 is my favourite as all the numbers are just adding a 1 to each number until you get to 9 x 11.
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It's been horrible thinking I'm thick cause u don't know ur times table . Plus struggle with spelling . Through in a brain op ten years ago . Iv got realy embarrased about it all . |
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"Discalculia is more common than dyslexia but not addressed in the same way because we have calculators to help us. "
Yeah I can function with it but only as long as I have a calculator or pen and paper. I struggle with it emotionally though... it makes me incredibly frustrated and it upsets me to the point of being really obvious if someone catches me off guard and I can't answer. Mortifying. I'm glad it's an actual thing though. I feel marginally better knowing I'm not just stupid. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"We learnt then by rote at school, and was the best thing we did ( not enjoyable though lol)
I just wish my kids were taught that way now
I've tried introducing it at home, but they look at me as if I'm crazy "
The kids I know have been given a mixture of tools, including rote learning for the times tables. They all seem to know it.
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I think the worst thing education did was allow calculators to be used for simple mental arithmetic.
OK I'm an oldie and they weren't really about until I hit secondary school.
I am amazed the number of people who cannot give the correct change in shops. My first job was working on a market stall, during the interview you were randomly given numbers to total in your head.
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"We learnt then by rote at school, and was the best thing we did ( not enjoyable though lol)
I just wish my kids were taught that way now
I've tried introducing it at home, but they look at me as if I'm crazy "
I learnt them this way too. Definitely a good way to remember them. |
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"Can you do 2, 3, 5 and 10?
2,5,10 easy prob just scrap 3
It's usually add one or take away one for 2, 5 and 10 to get to most of the others.
There is a really easy way to do three. Look at your palm. The fingers are broken down into three segments so you can get the answer to 3x8 really quickly.
what ? . Iv never admited openly to not knowing them before , wonderd if there were others in same boat ? Will people think I'm thick ?
The tricks I use for getting the answer to the 4 and 6 or 9 times table is to deduct 1 from 5 or 10 or add 1 to the fives times table for the 6 times table.
11 is my favourite as all the numbers are just adding a 1 to each number until you get to 9 x 11.
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 and you don't trust excel ???
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"Discalculia is more common than dyslexia but not addressed in the same way because we have calculators to help us.
Yeah I can function with it but only as long as I have a calculator or pen and paper. I struggle with it emotionally though... it makes me incredibly frustrated and it upsets me to the point of being really obvious if someone catches me off guard and I can't answer. Mortifying. I'm glad it's an actual thing though. I feel marginally better knowing I'm not just stupid. "
People blame the use of calculators but they are only introduced in Secondary school. Times tables are taught in primary,starting in yr 1 with 2 and 3 times tables. Some children pick them up easily,some need more practice and some struggle. In secondary,students are encouraged to use mental arithmetic and have no calculator lessons. In the lowest band I worked with,without a calculator most students wouldn't get much work done correctly. Some people can be good at algebra but need to do the multiplication on a calculator. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I think the worst thing education did was allow calculators to be used for simple mental arithmetic.
OK I'm an oldie and they weren't really about until I hit secondary school.
I am amazed the number of people who cannot give the correct change in shops. My first job was working on a market stall, during the interview you were randomly given numbers to total in your head.
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Change giving is all about counting back though. Modern tills tell you what the change should be so people don't learn it.
I don't see actual money as numbers, strangely. My first job was counting the money from the tills in a Woolworths. I had to write the numbers down, which was fine, but the counting the notes never felt like numbers.
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"We learnt then by rote at school, and was the best thing we did ( not enjoyable though lol)
I just wish my kids were taught that way now
I've tried introducing it at home, but they look at me as if I'm crazy "
My youngest has been taught this way. He's about to turn 9 & knows 1 - 12.
Not sure how useful it'll be as an adult though! |
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"We learnt then by rote at school, and was the best thing we did ( not enjoyable though lol)
I just wish my kids were taught that way now
I've tried introducing it at home, but they look at me as if I'm crazy
I learnt them this way too. Definitely a good way to remember them."
I did too and I have a photographic memory,so I see the answer in my head. I still struggle with a couple of them. 7x8 and 9x6 I get mixed up. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Can you do 2, 3, 5 and 10?
2,5,10 easy prob just scrap 3
It's usually add one or take away one for 2, 5 and 10 to get to most of the others.
There is a really easy way to do three. Look at your palm. The fingers are broken down into three segments so you can get the answer to 3x8 really quickly.
what ? . Iv never admited openly to not knowing them before , wonderd if there were others in same boat ? Will people think I'm thick ?
The tricks I use for getting the answer to the 4 and 6 or 9 times table is to deduct 1 from 5 or 10 or add 1 to the fives times table for the 6 times table.
11 is my favourite as all the numbers are just adding a 1 to each number until you get to 9 x 11.
and you don't trust excel ???
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I do double check Excel spreadsheets. I feel vindicated doing this because I have been right more than once. You just need a small error in the forumula and it all goes wrong.
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"Can you do 2, 3, 5 and 10?
2,5,10 easy prob just scrap 3
It's usually add one or take away one for 2, 5 and 10 to get to most of the others.
There is a really easy way to do three. Look at your palm. The fingers are broken down into three segments so you can get the answer to 3x8 really quickly.
what ? . Iv never admited openly to not knowing them before , wonderd if there were others in same boat ? Will people think I'm thick ?
The tricks I use for getting the answer to the 4 and 6 or 9 times table is to deduct 1 from 5 or 10 or add 1 to the fives times table for the 6 times table.
11 is my favourite as all the numbers are just adding a 1 to each number until you get to 9 x 11.
and you don't trust excel ???
I do double check Excel spreadsheets. I feel vindicated doing this because I have been right more than once. You just need a small error in the forumula and it all goes wrong.
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Not really excels error though is it  |
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Working with money is completely different from mental arithmetic.
If you don't use a skill you will forget it, I was taught times table at school but you just learn the numbers, so if you have no need for them why bother remembering them 
Having said that I do like a good 9 x table, very useful for transposition errors and squares (i.e. 3x3) excite me |
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"Can you do 2, 3, 5 and 10?
2,5,10 easy prob just scrap 3
It's usually add one or take away one for 2, 5 and 10 to get to most of the others.
There is a really easy way to do three. Look at your palm. The fingers are broken down into three segments so you can get the answer to 3x8 really quickly.
what ? . Iv never admited openly to not knowing them before , wonderd if there were others in same boat ? Will people think I'm thick ?
The tricks I use for getting the answer to the 4 and 6 or 9 times table is to deduct 1 from 5 or 10 or add 1 to the fives times table for the 6 times table.
11 is my favourite as all the numbers are just adding a 1 to each number until you get to 9 x 11.
and you don't trust excel ???
I do double check Excel spreadsheets. I feel vindicated doing this because I have been right more than once. You just need a small error in the forumula and it all goes wrong.
Not really excels error though is it "
I don't even know what excel is |
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"It's a learned skill, just a behaviour. I can't juggle but it doesn't reflect stupidity anymore than not having learned some maths. "
i bet uv juggled many balls !
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"It's a learned skill, just a behaviour. I can't juggle but it doesn't reflect stupidity anymore than not having learned some maths. "
But learning and being able to do some maths is slightly more useful than being able to juggle?
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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and you don't trust excel ???
I do double check Excel spreadsheets. I feel vindicated doing this because I have been right more than once. You just need a small error in the forumula and it all goes wrong.
Not really excels error though is it "
By the time I'm looking at the spreadsheet it might as well be.  |
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Was good at mental arithmetic, rarely use a calculator, used to do ledger work when I left school, worked in a bar before the tills did everything for you, but couldn't recite my times tables.
But what's worse is getting to 50 and not knowing your left from your right that affects me more in day to day life |
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"Discalculia is more common than dyslexia but not addressed in the same way because we have calculators to help us.
Yeah I can function with it but only as long as I have a calculator or pen and paper. I struggle with it emotionally though... it makes me incredibly frustrated and it upsets me to the point of being really obvious if someone catches me off guard and I can't answer. Mortifying. I'm glad it's an actual thing though. I feel marginally better knowing I'm not just stupid.
People blame the use of calculators but they are only introduced in Secondary school. Times tables are taught in primary,starting in yr 1 with 2 and 3 times tables. Some children pick them up easily,some need more practice and some struggle. In secondary,students are encouraged to use mental arithmetic and have no calculator lessons. In the lowest band I worked with,without a calculator most students wouldn't get much work done correctly. Some people can be good at algebra but need to do the multiplication on a calculator. "
I can't really blame the use of calculators cause like you say, we didn't have those till secondary school. No-one picked up on it with me though, I think if they had I'd maybe at least have got some help. I just think both my teachers and my parents thought I was uninterested. As with most things I don't enjoy, I switch off but with maths I think it was more than that.
It bothers me cause it changed my career path. I did the mock entrance exams for the police and got 100% on the written and problem papers but I got to question three on the maths paper and knew I didn't have a hope in hell.
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It is a pretty damning indictment of our education system that anyone can leave junior school without knowing their times tables.
The fundamental reason of the junior school is to put the building blocks in place on to which a more structured education can be built at High School.
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By (user no longer on site)
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The worlds popultion is getting dumber by he day, sorry to say but if youre grown and dont know how to do basic math then.... What the hell did you learn in school |
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"The worlds popultion is getting dumber by he day, sorry to say but if youre grown and dont know how to do basic math then.... What the hell did you learn in school"
That was a dumb statement. |
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"It's a learned skill, just a behaviour. I can't juggle but it doesn't reflect stupidity anymore than not having learned some maths. "
Not if your brain doesn't record and store information. Would you say to a dyslexic that they just have to learn how to read? |
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"Does it mean ur thick if u reach 40 and still don't know ur times table ? . I'm talking about myself ! "
Nope. Just means it's not something overly important in your life |
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