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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Indian village council has sentenced 2 sisters to rape as punishment for their brother eloping with a married women,
How can a country with space program, Some of the richest individuals in the world and one of the fastest growing economies be so backward 
I know some of the supposed developed countries do some strange shit but wtf |
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I'm sure we in the 'developed' UK do things they find repugnant as well...
But India's record on women's right/safety is truly shocking.
Tip of an iceberg...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/10280802/Woman-killed-over-dowry-every-hour-in-India.html |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"Raped by who ?"
members of the family of the woman who eloped with the girls brothers . The same family who are of a higher cast and dominate the councill !now why aren't the streets of Britain jammed with ex pat Indian folk protesting at this rather than leaving it to the western folk to highlight this ?
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Meh.... It happens, through no skill of our own we were born in the right country...
I will never understand why we get so het up about other nations problems...
Gun control in America anyone... None of our business.
And yes we will still deal with them, because you/we don't really care when it comes to resources. |
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"Meh.... It happens, through no skill of our own we were born in the right country...
I will never understand why we get so het up about other nations problems...
Gun control in America anyone... None of our business.
And yes we will still deal with them, because you/we don't really care when it comes to resources."
Not quite sure what you are saying. |
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Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody! |
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"Meh.... It happens, through no skill of our own we were born in the right country...
I will never understand why we get so het up about other nations problems...
Gun control in America anyone... None of our business.
And yes we will still deal with them, because you/we don't really care when it comes to resources.
Not quite sure what you are saying. "
Mainly, people are impotent to stop it.
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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago
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"Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody!"
Thanks for the lecture!. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Meh.... It happens, through no skill of our own we were born in the right country...
I will never understand why we get so het up about other nations problems...
Gun control in America anyone... None of our business.
And yes we will still deal with them, because you/we don't really care when it comes to resources.
Not quite sure what you are saying.
Mainly, people are impotent to stop it.
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Of course your right its silly to speak out about the breach of someone's human rights  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody!"
I've never just read that?!?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody!"
That is the inconvenient true. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Raped by who ?members of the family of the woman who eloped with the girls brothers . The same family who are of a higher cast and dominate the councill !now why aren't the streets of Britain jammed with ex pat Indian folk protesting at this rather than leaving it to the western folk to highlight this ? "
Nail on t'head. The caste system is strongly based on honour. The family will see the rape of the girls as regaining the honour they lost. Truly appalling. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody!"
people do care, you may not, but some of us do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody!"
The UK sends huge amounts of money in aid to support African children. I don't know how we can be accused of not caring when it's clearly evident that we do.
Also, why are children raped as a result of a UK person buying a ring? I'm pretty sure Africans own precious jewels too. The purchase of the stones is not causation. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This is how people lose their rights and get given contradictory messages.
Rape is ok so long as the law says so, same for murder and war, same for tax theft, same for a lot of things. Everywhere is fucked up really, because people are selfish and believe they have a self worth that differs from others. |
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"Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody!"
You quite blatantly don't, an attitude which I'm sure will win you many admirers.  |
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"This is how people lose their rights and get given contradictory messages.
Rape is ok so long as the law says so, same for murder and war, same for tax theft, same for a lot of things. Everywhere is fucked up really, because people are selfish and believe they have a self worth that differs from others."
I agree. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is how people lose their rights and get given contradictory messages.
Rape is ok so long as the law says so, same for murder and war, same for tax theft, same for a lot of things. Everywhere is fucked up really, because people are selfish and believe they have a self worth that differs from others."
Rape is illegal in India. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is how people lose their rights and get given contradictory messages.
Rape is ok so long as the law says so, same for murder and war, same for tax theft, same for a lot of things. Everywhere is fucked up really, because people are selfish and believe they have a self worth that differs from others.
Rape is illegal in India. "
So these rapists will get prosecuted after giving out their punishment? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is how people lose their rights and get given contradictory messages.
Rape is ok so long as the law says so, same for murder and war, same for tax theft, same for a lot of things. Everywhere is fucked up really, because people are selfish and believe they have a self worth that differs from others.
Rape is illegal in India.
So these rapists will get prosecuted after giving out their punishment?"
In theory, they would. Prosecution wouldn't likely go ahead due to lack of willingness.
It is not a legal order. The higher caste has demanded the rape of the women, those who formed the council are unelected. It's pretty much the equivalent of doing something because the bigger boys in the playground said so.
The women have applied to the Supreme Court for protection who have asked the council to explain themselves. |
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"This is how people lose their rights and get given contradictory messages.
Rape is ok so long as the law says so, same for murder and war, same for tax theft, same for a lot of things. Everywhere is fucked up really, because people are selfish and believe they have a self worth that differs from others.
Rape is illegal in India. "
It might be illegal but for law to count it has to be upheld.
One of the men who took part in the gang rape of that poor woman on a bus in India said she only died because she resisted her rapists so it was her own fault. With attitudes like that legality isn't a consideration. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is how people lose their rights and get given contradictory messages.
Rape is ok so long as the law says so, same for murder and war, same for tax theft, same for a lot of things. Everywhere is fucked up really, because people are selfish and believe they have a self worth that differs from others.
Rape is illegal in India.
It might be illegal but for law to count it has to be upheld.
One of the men who took part in the gang rape of that poor woman on a bus in India said she only died because she resisted her rapists so it was her own fault. With attitudes like that legality isn't a consideration."
I'm not disagreeing that rape is under reported and under prosecuted, it's just wrong to say it's within the law to rape people in India. |
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"This is how people lose their rights and get given contradictory messages.
Rape is ok so long as the law says so, same for murder and war, same for tax theft, same for a lot of things. Everywhere is fucked up really, because people are selfish and believe they have a self worth that differs from others.
Rape is illegal in India.
It might be illegal but for law to count it has to be upheld.
One of the men who took part in the gang rape of that poor woman on a bus in India said she only died because she resisted her rapists so it was her own fault. With attitudes like that legality isn't a consideration.
I'm not disagreeing that rape is under reported and under prosecuted, it's just wrong to say it's within the law to rape people in India. "
Oh I understand, sorry I speed read the post  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is how people lose their rights and get given contradictory messages.
Rape is ok so long as the law says so, same for murder and war, same for tax theft, same for a lot of things. Everywhere is fucked up really, because people are selfish and believe they have a self worth that differs from others.
Rape is illegal in India.
So these rapists will get prosecuted after giving out their punishment?
In theory, they would. Prosecution wouldn't likely go ahead due to lack of willingness.
It is not a legal order. The higher caste has demanded the rape of the women, those who formed the council are unelected. It's pretty much the equivalent of doing something because the bigger boys in the playground said so.
The women have applied to the Supreme Court for protection who have asked the council to explain themselves. "
That was the point i was making. In practice, not in theory. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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When laws are not upheld, and people can break them without consequences, then those laws are saying something else. They say yeah you shouldn't do this but you can. So rape is, in practice, legal and the law supports that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is how people lose their rights and get given contradictory messages.
Rape is ok so long as the law says so, same for murder and war, same for tax theft, same for a lot of things. Everywhere is fucked up really, because people are selfish and believe they have a self worth that differs from others.
Rape is illegal in India.
So these rapists will get prosecuted after giving out their punishment?
In theory, they would. Prosecution wouldn't likely go ahead due to lack of willingness.
It is not a legal order. The higher caste has demanded the rape of the women, those who formed the council are unelected. It's pretty much the equivalent of doing something because the bigger boys in the playground said so.
The women have applied to the Supreme Court for protection who have asked the council to explain themselves.
That was the point i was making. In practice, not in theory."
It's a cultural problem, not really a legal one. India has revised its rape laws quite recently and they're in line with most Western countries.
Sadly, northern India is still quite "tribal" and lower castes believe they have less rights. Apparently, India states 2 in 100,000 are raped. It's clearly not being reported. You can't prosecute when there's no statements being made.
They're starting to implement outreach programmes where police are educating those areas most affected, but they're up against centuries of the caste system. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When laws are not upheld, and people can break them without consequences, then those laws are saying something else. They say yeah you shouldn't do this but you can. So rape is, in practice, legal and the law supports that."
It's really not legal or supported.
You can't prosecute someone when no one has accused them of a crime, and no one is willing to testify against them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When laws are not upheld, and people can break them without consequences, then those laws are saying something else. They say yeah you shouldn't do this but you can. So rape is, in practice, legal and the law supports that.
It's really not legal or supported.
You can't prosecute someone when no one has accused them of a crime, and no one is willing to testify against them. "
Well all this is public now. It will be interesting to see if the law actually chooses to become acaring authority figure that chooses to protect it's citizens or chooses to support the rape and rapists.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When laws are not upheld, and people can break them without consequences, then those laws are saying something else. They say yeah you shouldn't do this but you can. So rape is, in practice, legal and the law supports that.
It's really not legal or supported.
You can't prosecute someone when no one has accused them of a crime, and no one is willing to testify against them.
Well all this is public now. It will be interesting to see if the law actually chooses to become acaring authority figure that chooses to protect it's citizens or chooses to support the rape and rapists.
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Hopefully, and they'll hopefully also get the protection they've requested.
Small village councils like the one in question should be banned, or at the very least banned from making decisions like this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When laws are not upheld, and people can break them without consequences, then those laws are saying something else. They say yeah you shouldn't do this but you can. So rape is, in practice, legal and the law supports that.
It's really not legal or supported.
You can't prosecute someone when no one has accused them of a crime, and no one is willing to testify against them.
Well all this is public now. It will be interesting to see if the law actually chooses to become acaring authority figure that chooses to protect it's citizens or chooses to support the rape and rapists.
Hopefully, and they'll hopefully also get the protection they've requested.
Small village councils like the one in question should be banned, or at the very least banned from making decisions like this. "
I reckon activist groups will be involved by now and that's probably how come it's been made public, there's a fair few over there standing up for womens rights to be not raped.
I honestly doubt 'authority' will do anything, if they do it will be something stupid like arrest or attack protesters. Fuck them and their law. |
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"Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody!
That is the inconvenient true."
Hmmmmmm... Does somebody actually read between the lines? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When laws are not upheld, and people can break them without consequences, then those laws are saying something else. They say yeah you shouldn't do this but you can. So rape is, in practice, legal and the law supports that.
It's really not legal or supported.
You can't prosecute someone when no one has accused them of a crime, and no one is willing to testify against them.
Well all this is public now. It will be interesting to see if the law actually chooses to become acaring authority figure that chooses to protect it's citizens or chooses to support the rape and rapists.
Hopefully, and they'll hopefully also get the protection they've requested.
Small village councils like the one in question should be banned, or at the very least banned from making decisions like this.
I reckon activist groups will be involved by now and that's probably how come it's been made public, there's a fair few over there standing up for womens rights to be not raped.
I honestly doubt 'authority' will do anything, if they do it will be something stupid like arrest or attack protesters. Fuck them and their law."
Tbh, the only thing wrong with their rape law is the marital rape (husbands can't rape wives). They have prosecuted against this by using domestic violence laws instead, but it's backwards.
Then again it was only changed in '91 here in UK. |
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"Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody!
The UK sends huge amounts of money in aid to support African children. I don't know how we can be accused of not caring when it's clearly evident that we do.
Also, why are children raped as a result of a UK person buying a ring? I'm pretty sure Africans own precious jewels too. The purchase of the stones is not causation."
You think that money gets there?
We need oil to support our civilisation, so a certain amount of killing in its name is acceptable.
But apart from industrial use, nobody needs to wear shiny pebbles...
Demand from the west causes a surge from the rest to provide.
If that means killing and raping, so be it!
Most shut their eyes and ignore that they support the very people they hate...
Crime, corruption and international trade are inextricably linked, you can choose not to see it & you can fuel the horror.
But don't pretend to give a shit about some raped Indian children as you type away at a computer whose components were build in a factory owned by the rapists families. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody!
The UK sends huge amounts of money in aid to support African children. I don't know how we can be accused of not caring when it's clearly evident that we do.
Also, why are children raped as a result of a UK person buying a ring? I'm pretty sure Africans own precious jewels too. The purchase of the stones is not causation.
You think that money gets there?
We need oil to support our civilisation, so a certain amount of killing in its name is acceptable.
But apart from industrial use, nobody needs to wear shiny pebbles...
Demand from the west causes a surge from the rest to provide.
If that means killing and raping, so be it!
Most shut their eyes and ignore that they support the very people they hate...
Crime, corruption and international trade are inextricably linked, you can choose not to see it & you can fuel the horror.
But don't pretend to give a shit about some raped Indian children as you type away at a computer whose components were build in a factory owned by the rapists families."
How could you possibly know what I care or do not care about?
On top of that, what has Africa's diamonds and oil got to do with the rape of 2 Indian women?
I think it's clear you do not know what you're talking about. |
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"Take a look at the diamond on your finger and imagine how many African children were raped or had their hands cut off, all because you needed the right ring.
Accept your own hypocrisy, you will never change the world.
I've seen a lot of bad things in a lot of powerful cities, nothing can be done, because at heart, nobody cares about poor brown, developing world children.
Nobody!
The UK sends huge amounts of money in aid to support African children. I don't know how we can be accused of not caring when it's clearly evident that we do.
Also, why are children raped as a result of a UK person buying a ring? I'm pretty sure Africans own precious jewels too. The purchase of the stones is not causation.
You think that money gets there?
We need oil to support our civilisation, so a certain amount of killing in its name is acceptable.
But apart from industrial use, nobody needs to wear shiny pebbles...
Demand from the west causes a surge from the rest to provide.
If that means killing and raping, so be it!
Most shut their eyes and ignore that they support the very people they hate...
Crime, corruption and international trade are inextricably linked, you can choose not to see it & you can fuel the horror.
But don't pretend to give a shit about some raped Indian children as you type away at a computer whose components were build in a factory owned by the rapists families.
How could you possibly know what I care or do not care about?
On top of that, what has Africa's diamonds and oil got to do with the rape of 2 Indian women?
I think it's clear you do not know what you're talking about. "
Ha! I think it's clear you do not give a shit my dear! |
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Hmmmmmm.... Interesting result.
Seems people are lazy and hate to look at themselves as part of the problem.
From a safe European home, it's easy to say I do everything right, uphold the law, fight injustice....
But do i?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When laws are not upheld, and people can break them without consequences, then those laws are saying something else. They say yeah you shouldn't do this but you can. So rape is, in practice, legal and the law supports that.
It's really not legal or supported.
You can't prosecute someone when no one has accused them of a crime, and no one is willing to testify against them.
Well all this is public now. It will be interesting to see if the law actually chooses to become acaring authority figure that chooses to protect it's citizens or chooses to support the rape and rapists.
Hopefully, and they'll hopefully also get the protection they've requested.
Small village councils like the one in question should be banned, or at the very least banned from making decisions like this.
I reckon activist groups will be involved by now and that's probably how come it's been made public, there's a fair few over there standing up for womens rights to be not raped.
I honestly doubt 'authority' will do anything, if they do it will be something stupid like arrest or attack protesters. Fuck them and their law.
Tbh, the only thing wrong with their rape law is the marital rape (husbands can't rape wives). They have prosecuted against this by using domestic violence laws instead, but it's backwards.
Then again it was only changed in '91 here in UK."
I'm always surprised it was ever legal tbh. Anyway, i don't know how to change their laws over there or force the ones in place to be used. |
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"Hmmmmmm.... Interesting result.
Seems people are lazy and hate to look at themselves as part of the problem.
From a safe European home, it's easy to say I do everything right, uphold the law, fight injustice....
But do i??"
I'm an anarchist. I uphold laws without being forced to, just like most people who are scared of anarchy. Go figure. |
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"Hmmmmmm.... Interesting result.
Seems people are lazy and hate to look at themselves as part of the problem.
From a safe European home, it's easy to say I do everything right, uphold the law, fight injustice....
But do i??
I'm an anarchist. I uphold laws without being forced to, just like most people who are scared of anarchy. Go figure."
Hmmmmmmm.... I actually like it!!
I always say I'm an anarchist too, but I play by societies rules....
I plan to bring down the system from the inside... Wish me luck!! |
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"Hmmmmmm.... Interesting result.
Seems people are lazy and hate to look at themselves as part of the problem.
From a safe European home, it's easy to say I do everything right, uphold the law, fight injustice....
But do i??
I'm an anarchist. I uphold laws without being forced to, just like most people who are scared of anarchy. Go figure.
Hmmmmmmm.... I actually like it!!
I always say I'm an anarchist too, but I play by societies rules....
I plan to bring down the system from the inside... Wish me luck!!"
I've been doing this on a small scale for decades, it's fairly easy.  |
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"Hmmmmmm.... Interesting result.
Seems people are lazy and hate to look at themselves as part of the problem.
From a safe European home, it's easy to say I do everything right, uphold the law, fight injustice....
But do i??
I'm an anarchist. I uphold laws without being forced to, just like most people who are scared of anarchy. Go figure.
Hmmmmmmm.... I actually like it!!
I always say I'm an anarchist too, but I play by societies rules....
I plan to bring down the system from the inside... Wish me luck!!
I've been doing this on a small scale for decades, it's fairly easy. "
And they will never know it's happening till it's too late! |
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"Hmmmmmm.... Interesting result.
Seems people are lazy and hate to look at themselves as part of the problem.
From a safe European home, it's easy to say I do everything right, uphold the law, fight injustice....
But do i??
I'm an anarchist. I uphold laws without being forced to, just like most people who are scared of anarchy. Go figure.
Hmmmmmmm.... I actually like it!!
I always say I'm an anarchist too, but I play by societies rules....
I plan to bring down the system from the inside... Wish me luck!!
I've been doing this on a small scale for decades, it's fairly easy.
And they will never know it's happening till it's too late!"
I'm fucked if they ever notice. That may be a lie if they're watching... |
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"Hmmmmmm.... Interesting result.
Seems people are lazy and hate to look at themselves as part of the problem.
From a safe European home, it's easy to say I do everything right, uphold the law, fight injustice....
But do i??
I'm an anarchist. I uphold laws without being forced to, just like most people who are scared of anarchy. Go figure.
Hmmmmmmm.... I actually like it!!
I always say I'm an anarchist too, but I play by societies rules....
I plan to bring down the system from the inside... Wish me luck!!
I've been doing this on a small scale for decades, it's fairly easy.
And they will never know it's happening till it's too late!
I'm fucked if they ever notice. That may be a lie if they're watching... "
They're always watching |
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"Hmmmmmm.... Interesting result.
Seems people are lazy and hate to look at themselves as part of the problem.
From a safe European home, it's easy to say I do everything right, uphold the law, fight injustice....
But do i??
I'm an anarchist. I uphold laws without being forced to, just like most people who are scared of anarchy. Go figure.
Hmmmmmmm.... I actually like it!!
I always say I'm an anarchist too, but I play by societies rules....
I plan to bring down the system from the inside... Wish me luck!!
I've been doing this on a small scale for decades, it's fairly easy.
And they will never know it's happening till it's too late!
I'm fucked if they ever notice. That may be a lie if they're watching...
They're always watching "
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"Indian village council has sentenced 2 sisters to rape as punishment for their brother eloping with a married women,
How can a country with space program, Some of the richest individuals in the world and one of the fastest growing economies be so backward
I know some of the supposed developed countries do some strange shit but wtf"
North Korea has a space programme. Just saying. |
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"Indian village council has sentenced 2 sisters to rape as punishment for their brother eloping with a married women,
How can a country with space program, Some of the richest individuals in the world and one of the fastest growing economies be so backward
I know some of the supposed developed countries do some strange shit but wtf
North Korea has a space programme. Just saying. "
Yeah... I'm not really sure that development of certain technology is correlated with liberalism of citizens rights and the rule of law? |
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"Hmmmmmm.... Interesting result.
Seems people are lazy and hate to look at themselves as part of the problem.
From a safe European home, it's easy to say I do everything right, uphold the law, fight injustice....
But do i??"
You're aware of the Kimberley process right? Is it perfect? - no. Do some people care enough to use it? - yes.
Personally I refused to buy a diamond when we got engaged for the reasons you are talking about. But a lot of people just don't know what you're talking about either. |
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"Indian village council has sentenced 2 sisters to rape as punishment for their brother eloping with a married women,
How can a country with space program, Some of the richest individuals in the world and one of the fastest growing economies be so backward
I know some of the supposed developed countries do some strange shit but wtf
North Korea has a space programme. Just saying.
Yeah... I'm not really sure that development of certain technology is correlated with liberalism of citizens rights and the rule of law?"
Space programmes correlate with "there's another country I don't like and want to threaten with long range missiles" |
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"Indian village council has sentenced 2 sisters to rape as punishment for their brother eloping with a married women,
How can a country with space program, Some of the richest individuals in the world and one of the fastest growing economies be so backward
I know some of the supposed developed countries do some strange shit but wtf
North Korea has a space programme. Just saying.
Yeah... I'm not really sure that development of certain technology is correlated with liberalism of citizens rights and the rule of law?
Space programmes correlate with "there's another country I don't like and want to threaten with long range missiles" "
I concur.... The master of technology rules the world.
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