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By *iew OP Man
over a year ago
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Tomorrow 01.12.10 is Worlds Aids Day.
God bless all those suffering from this most terrible disease.
Admin... any chance we could get a red ribbon as a banner flash please.
Many thanks.
xx
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By *iew OP Man
over a year ago
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Really lovely girl on This Morning, she has lived with HIV for 11 years now, she was 18 when she contracted it.
she slept wth a guy once..
really brave of her to go on TV to raise awareness.
well done x |
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"Well done for bringing this up _iew.xxxx
no probs xxx
and did you see Bette on this morning.. she was fab  "
No i didnt, ive given up watching television even xfactor (one of my whims) but i was going to put a thing up about aids day good job this was at the topxxx |
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By *iew OP Man
over a year ago
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"Well done for bringing this up _iew.xxxx
no probs xxx
and did you see Bette on this morning.. she was fab
No i didnt, ive given up watching television even xfactor (one of my whims) but i was going to put a thing up about aids day good job this was at the topxxx"
she was in fine form... pop on ITV player, you will see her. she was on first. xxx |
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"Well done for bringing this up _iew.xxxx
no probs xxx
and did you see Bette on this morning.. she was fab
No i didnt, ive given up watching television even xfactor (one of my whims) but i was going to put a thing up about aids day good job this was at the topxxx
she was in fine form... pop on ITV player, you will see her. she was on first. xxx "
Im very tempted but im not supposed to give in too temptation. I will have to see what Paulo Coelho has to say about it first lol |
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By *iew OP Man
over a year ago
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"HeyView, did you also see that Elton John is editing the Independent today as part of the raising awareness thing?"
I did see that actually... not the most 'wow' front page but good on him, he raises a lot of money.
well done Elton |
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With almost 7 million of it's people infected with HIV, the South African leadership still questions whether HIV is the prequel to AIDS.
To this day the South African government still do not routinely provide anti-retroviral drugs to HIV patients.
They famously recommended that those infected with HIV drink an infusion of Garlic, Tea and Beetroot.
BUT.....They have greatefully accepted over $40 million of funding from the World Health Organisation since 2005 to combat HIV/AIDS......
That's a lot of Beetroot |
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In some African villages they believe that having sex with a child under the age of 1 year can cure them of the disease.
I'd rather they went with the Beetroot cure.
And Grim, no the pope didn't make them have sex. Please think before you post something so bloody stupid in a thread about a serious problem such as this. |
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"With almost 7 million of it's people infected with HIV, the South African leadership still questions whether HIV is the prequel to AIDS.
To this day the South African government still do not routinely provide anti-retroviral drugs to HIV patients.
They famously recommended that those infected with HIV drink an infusion of Garlic, Tea and Beetroot.
BUT.....They have greatefully accepted over $40 million of funding from the World Health Organisation since 2005 to combat HIV/AIDS......
That's a lot of Beetroot"
beetroot is good for muscle growth for fitness
how can we save everyone?
when ppl start complaining about 'how it feels'
it does beg the question do they care?
It's like a d*unk man wrecked on the street,
should the services take him to the hospital
when s/he doesn't want too
We invade ppls rights all the time. it's inevitable. |
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"In some African villages they believe that having sex with a child under the age of 1 year can cure them of the disease.
I'd rather they went with the Beetroot cure.
And Grim, no the pope didn't make them have sex. Please think before you post something so bloody stupid in a thread about a serious problem such as this. "
well if u had looked at what the 3rd person said, u would see where i was coming from instead of jumping the gun
U think i'm not being serious. it's not me thats taking risks and then those that get infected lay the blame on others..
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"In some African villages they believe that having sex with a child under the age of 1 year can cure them of the disease.
I'd rather they went with the Beetroot cure.
And Grim, no the pope didn't make them have sex. Please think before you post something so bloody stupid in a thread about a serious problem such as this. "
i suggest you stop making character assessments from ppl by the basis of one sentenance. a person is made up of multiple _iews etc..
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"With almost 7 million of it's people infected with HIV, the South African leadership still questions whether HIV is the prequel to AIDS.
To this day the South African government still do not routinely provide anti-retroviral drugs to HIV patients.
They famously recommended that those infected with HIV drink an infusion of Garlic, Tea and Beetroot.
BUT.....They have greatefully accepted over $40 million of funding from the World Health Organisation since 2005 to combat HIV/AIDS......
That's a lot of Beetroot
beetroot is good for muscle growth for fitness
how can we save everyone?
when ppl start complaining about 'how it feels'
it does beg the question do they care?
It's like a d*unk man wrecked on the street,
should the services take him to the hospital
when s/he doesn't want too
We invade ppls rights all the time. it's inevitable. "
Sorry Grim, but even after reading that three times I don't understand what you mean. |
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I saw exactly what was posted.
And I have no intention of making character assessments on anyone on the basis of one sentence.
I do not judge a persons character on anything they write online. It gets lost in translation way too easily.
I am not starting an argument on this thread. HIV and AIDS need highlighting, not bickering and one up man ship.
Please do not think you are not at risk from the disease, because everyone is. No matter what they believe.
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"With almost 7 million of it's people infected with HIV, the South African leadership still questions whether HIV is the prequel to AIDS.
To this day the South African government still do not routinely provide anti-retroviral drugs to HIV patients.
They famously recommended that those infected with HIV drink an infusion of Garlic, Tea and Beetroot.
BUT.....They have greatefully accepted over $40 million of funding from the World Health Organisation since 2005 to combat HIV/AIDS......
That's a lot of Beetroot
beetroot is good for muscle growth for fitness
how can we save everyone?
when ppl start complaining about 'how it feels'
it does beg the question do they care?
It's like a d*unk man wrecked on the street,
should the services take him to the hospital
when s/he doesn't want too
We invade ppls rights all the time. it's inevitable.
Sorry Grim, but even after reading that three times I don't understand what you mean."
A man gets pissed and wonders the street. the police pick him up and take him to the hspital.
But the man refuses because it's his choice
I was asking "why should ppl help when ppl don't want help"
I was relating that story as i heard it from my brother in the police and they get fed up with d*unks not caring one little bit how their d*unkish behaviour affects everyone.
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"I saw exactly what was posted.
And I have no intention of making character assessments on anyone on the basis of one sentence.
I do not judge a persons character on anything they write online. It gets lost in translation way too easily.
I am not starting an argument on this thread. HIV and AIDS need highlighting, not bickering and one up man ship.
Please do not think you are not at risk from the disease, because everyone is. No matter what they believe.
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u said i don't take aids seriously.
u are very much mistaken. u have no idea what my connections are with drink and aids.
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"With almost 7 million of it's people infected with HIV, the South African leadership still questions whether HIV is the prequel to AIDS.
To this day the South African government still do not routinely provide anti-retroviral drugs to HIV patients.
They famously recommended that those infected with HIV drink an infusion of Garlic, Tea and Beetroot.
BUT.....They have greatefully accepted over $40 million of funding from the World Health Organisation since 2005 to combat HIV/AIDS......
That's a lot of Beetroot
beetroot is good for muscle growth for fitness
how can we save everyone?
when ppl start complaining about 'how it feels'
it does beg the question do they care?
It's like a d*unk man wrecked on the street,
should the services take him to the hospital
when s/he doesn't want too
We invade ppls rights all the time. it's inevitable.
Sorry Grim, but even after reading that three times I don't understand what you mean.
A man gets pissed and wonders the street. the police pick him up and take him to the hspital.
But the man refuses because it's his choice
I was asking "why should ppl help when ppl don't want help"
I was relating that story as i heard it from my brother in the police and they get fed up with d*unks not caring one little bit how their d*unkish behaviour affects everyone.
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And this relates to HIV patients in Africa how? |
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"With almost 7 million of it's people infected with HIV, the South African leadership still questions whether HIV is the prequel to AIDS.
To this day the South African government still do not routinely provide anti-retroviral drugs to HIV patients.
They famously recommended that those infected with HIV drink an infusion of Garlic, Tea and Beetroot.
BUT.....They have greatefully accepted over $40 million of funding from the World Health Organisation since 2005 to combat HIV/AIDS......
That's a lot of Beetroot
beetroot is good for muscle growth for fitness
how can we save everyone?
when ppl start complaining about 'how it feels'
it does beg the question do they care?
It's like a d*unk man wrecked on the street,
should the services take him to the hospital
when s/he doesn't want too
We invade ppls rights all the time. it's inevitable.
Sorry Grim, but even after reading that three times I don't understand what you mean.
A man gets pissed and wonders the street. the police pick him up and take him to the hspital.
But the man refuses because it's his choice
I was asking "why should ppl help when ppl don't want help"
I was relating that story as i heard it from my brother in the police and they get fed up with d*unks not caring one little bit how their d*unkish behaviour affects everyone.
And this relates to HIV patients in Africa how?"
jees. behaviour!!!
ppl like having sex
a guy on this forum remarked how the pope didn't condone condoms a decade ago etc but THEN the pope never condoned sex for fun either. The pope is only responding to ppls attitudes.
analogy: when the grass grows u have to cut it
likewise with sex, the pope is only doing it as a result of ppls actions.
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Lead by example.
We need to educate ourselves so we can educate others, no matter what country or religion people follow. AIDS/HIV has no preference or discrimination of who it is passed to, be it in a sexual or non sexual way.
All we can do is use common sense and use the knowledge that has been handed to us all to try to reduce the risks of contracting and spreading the infection.
Bless the ones that are suffering. |
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"Lead by example.
We need to educate ourselves so we can educate others, no matter what country or religion people follow. AIDS/HIV has no preference or discrimination of who it is passed to, be it in a sexual or non sexual way.
All we can do is use common sense and use the knowledge that has been handed to us all to try to reduce the risks of contracting and spreading the infection.
Bless the ones that are suffering."
Excellent.. |
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As someone who lost a close family member to this back in 1991, I personally appreciate this from Admin (As does Mrs Party as its an issue that greatly affects her country)and my cousins death was very unpleasant and he died on my birthday no less.
It can only be a good thing to show that the swinging community takes this issue seriously not only with prevention, but also education and de-stigmatisation.
This was one of the reasons we insisted on a whole chapter on safe sex in our book, and listed various charities and support groups as well as including an inter_iew with someone from the NHS.
There are 30 Million people that have died from it to date, and 40 Million living with it now.
Be safe, get tested, protect yourself, protect others.
RIP Meekhel. |
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By *iew OP Man
over a year ago
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"Lead by example.
We need to educate ourselves so we can educate others, no matter what country or religion people follow. AIDS/HIV has no preference or discrimination of who it is passed to, be it in a sexual or non sexual way.
All we can do is use common sense and use the knowledge that has been handed to us all to try to reduce the risks of contracting and spreading the infection.
Bless the ones that are suffering."
Fantastic x |
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"Ask the pope to make a donation his church are to blame for the spread in africa to a large extent 
hey the pope never made ppl have sex though...
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Thoughts and prayers to those that have passed on and to those still with us keep up the fight.
To my son and his friends who continue to help advise and support all those they diagnose .Bless you.x |
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"Not a bad idea. There are many suffering in Africa where drugs are not available to help them. It does make you think."
I am currently in an African country where the rate of infection is close to 30%. The drugs are available free of charge thanks to several charities but it is impossible to stop transmission as 85% of the population is so desperatly poor they cannot afford condoms. Often women will only find out their status once they are pregnant and go to hospital for ante-natal care. Still vast majority of ppl live without water, sanitation, electricity, a regular income and HIV is very low on their list of subsistence priorities...
A complicated problem... |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Not a bad idea. There are many suffering in Africa where drugs are not available to help them. It does make you think.
I am currently in an African country where the rate of infection is close to 30%. The drugs are available free of charge thanks to several charities but it is impossible to stop transmission as 85% of the population is so desperatly poor they cannot afford condoms. Often women will only find out their status once they are pregnant and go to hospital for ante-natal care. Still vast majority of ppl live without water, sanitation, electricity, a regular income and HIV is very low on their list of subsistence priorities...
A complicated problem... "
Then there are all the myths and superstitions on how to prevent and cure the disease to contend with. We have become complacent and I hear people describing HIV as "just an African disease now" - it's an issue for us all. |
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"With almost 7 million of it's people infected with HIV, the South African leadership still questions whether HIV is the prequel to AIDS.
To this day the South African government still do not routinely provide anti-retroviral drugs to HIV patients.
They famously recommended that those infected with HIV drink an infusion of Garlic, Tea and Beetroot.
BUT.....They have greatefully accepted over $40 million of funding from the World Health Organisation since 2005 to combat HIV/AIDS......
That's a lot of Beetroot
beetroot is good for muscle growth for fitness
how can we save everyone?
when ppl start complaining about 'how it feels'
it does beg the question do they care?
It's like a d*unk man wrecked on the street,
should the services take him to the hospital
when s/he doesn't want too
We invade ppls rights all the time. it's inevitable.
Sorry Grim, but even after reading that three times I don't understand what you mean.
A man gets pissed and wonders the street. the police pick him up and take him to the hspital.
But the man refuses because it's his choice
I was asking "why should ppl help when ppl don't want help"
I was relating that story as i heard it from my brother in the police and they get fed up with d*unks not caring one little bit how their d*unkish behaviour affects everyone.
And this relates to HIV patients in Africa how?
jees. behaviour!!!
ppl like having sex
a guy on this forum remarked how the pope didn't condone condoms a decade ago etc but THEN the pope never condoned sex for fun either. The pope is only responding to ppls attitudes.
analogy: when the grass grows u have to cut it
likewise with sex, the pope is only doing it as a result of ppls actions.
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yes people like having sex, but one of the biggest risks is casual sex, no condom is 100% and how many people use protection in every aspect of sex? yes using protection lowers the risks.. but then having multiple partners is increasing that lowered sex..
so just think for a site that is promoting casual sex its a bit ironic they have put up the red ribbon.. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
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yes people like having sex, but one of the biggest risks is casual sex, no condom is 100% and how many people use protection in every aspect of sex? yes using protection lowers the risks.. but then having multiple partners is increasing that lowered sex..
so just think for a site that is promoting casual sex its a bit ironic they have put up the red ribbon.. "
It's like pregnancy. It only takes one occasion for you to 'catch'. I met a young woman last WAD who was in the sad position that her very first and only sexual experience led to her being infected.
Yes, the risk is increased but that is why you must mitigate against the risk. If you are having casual sex then it is more important that you take responsibility for yourself and to protect others. I see no irony in that.
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yes people like having sex, but one of the biggest risks is casual sex, no condom is 100% and how many people use protection in every aspect of sex? yes using protection lowers the risks.. but then having multiple partners is increasing that lowered sex..
so just think for a site that is promoting casual sex its a bit ironic they have put up the red ribbon..
It's like pregnancy. It only takes one occasion for you to 'catch'. I met a young woman last WAD who was in the sad position that her very first and only sexual experience led to her being infected.
Yes, the risk is increased but that is why you must mitigate against the risk. If you are having casual sex then it is more important that you take responsibility for yourself and to protect others. I see no irony in that.
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yes u can protect urself, but as i say casual sex is still increasing the chances of infection with protection. The only way to stay safe is to have sex with one person only you know is not infected and never invite anyone else in.
as someone pointed out world aids day is aim for 0% infections.. well casual sex being the main contributor of the spread of the disease, protected or not, then its irony in its finest 
but as adultsa on this site everyoen has the choice to take whatever risks in life they want.. as long as they are aware of the risks.. |
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"Tomorrow 01.12.10 is Worlds Aids Day.
God bless all those suffering from this most terrible disease.
Admin... any chance we could get a red ribbon as a banner flash please.
Many thanks.
xx
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"Tomorrow 01.12.10 is Worlds Aids Day.
God bless all those suffering from this most terrible disease.
Admin... any chance we could get a red ribbon as a banner flash please.
Many thanks.
xx
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From there on out, statistically speaking, things deteriorate pretty fast. If your partner is HIV-positive, your chances of getting AIDS after one night are 1 in 5,000 with a condom, 1 in 500 without. Have sex with an HIV-positive partner 500 times using condoms and your chances escalate to 1 in 11. Skip the gift wrap and they're 2 in 3.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
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From there on out, statistically speaking, things deteriorate pretty fast. If your partner is HIV-positive, your chances of getting AIDS after one night are 1 in 5,000 with a condom, 1 in 500 without. Have sex with an HIV-positive partner 500 times using condoms and your chances escalate to 1 in 11. Skip the gift wrap and they're 2 in 3.
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As I stated, it is much like pregnancy. The only safe sex is the virtual kind. You can practice safer sex. If you feel that swinging sex is too dangerous then stop doing it. I worry more about the people that go home with someone they have met in a nightclub or after getting d*unk at the pub.
I worry more that we don't discuss HIV in this country anymore except on WAD. |
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I used to work with a group of teenagers that were affected by a close relative or sibling living with HIV or AIDS.
Their biggest concern was that people didn't talk about it. One had even been banned by her school of mentioning that her sister had HIV in case it upset parents.
For young people they were very aware of the fact that it needed talking about to prevent the problem.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
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"I used to work with a group of teenagers that were affected by a close relative or sibling living with HIV or AIDS.
Their biggest concern was that people didn't talk about it. One had even been banned by her school of mentioning that her sister had HIV in case it upset parents.
For young people they were very aware of the fact that it needed talking about to prevent the problem.
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I went to the launch of drama film made for and by young people about HIV last year.
We now encourage people to talk about breast, testicular and bowel cancer (all previously "upsetting" as they are intimate cancers) but we are nowhere near this level of dialogue about HIV yet. |
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By *iew OP Man
over a year ago
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people are frightened to be associated with the subject in case it sticks... or it is a male gay/bi thing brought to their own doorstep thinking.
you only have to check the 'good intent best wishes' for people suffering on threads like these and the ones for Pink Ribbon and Movember.
all suffering benefits from compassion. |
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"Lead by example.
We need to educate ourselves so we can educate others, no matter what country or religion people follow. AIDS/HIV has no preference or discrimination of who it is passed to, be it in a sexual or non sexual way.
All we can do is use common sense and use the knowledge that has been handed to us all to try to reduce the risks of contracting and spreading the infection.
Bless the ones that are suffering."
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"people are frightened to be associated with the subject in case it sticks... or it is a male gay/bi thing brought to their own doorstep thinking.
you only have to check the 'good intent best wishes' for people suffering on threads like these and the ones for Pink Ribbon and Movember.
all suffering benefits from compassion."
It isn't anonymous groups of people either. When it comes down to it is the one individual you know and care about. |
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"And another year passes.....
God bless all living with this terrible disease.
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I'm doing a lot of work with HIV as part of my job...it's an awful disease but thank god for on going research and brilliant drugs which has turned it from a terminal illness to a long term illness |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
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Another year. Thankfully not one where anyone I know has died as a result of this virus and no one I know has told me they have tested positive.
Now we have to concentrate on our young people.
Play safe. |
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"Another year. Thankfully not one where anyone I know has died as a result of this virus and no one I know has told me they have tested positive.
Now we have to concentrate on our young people.
Play safe."
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"Another year. Thankfully not one where anyone I know has died as a result of this virus and no one I know has told me they have tested positive.
Now we have to concentrate on our young people.
Play safe.
xx"
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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The theme for World AIDS Day 2014 is “Focus, Partner, Achieve: An AIDS-free Generation.”
If we're ever to get to an AIDS free generation then we need to teach our young people to keep themselves safe(r).
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By *iew OP Man
over a year ago
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"Nice to see this thread, I will be out Monday promoting World Aids day giving leaflets and condoms and hopefully increasing awareness. "
Admin have been great over the years, there will be a Red Ribbon as a banner flash on the 1st.
it's lovely of them |
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HIV awareness is really close to my heart...about 15 years ago I was given the wrong result and was told I was HIV positive. I remember sitting there just feeling numb I didn't know where to turn. I then had the secondary test...they give you a second test to make sure the first test was accurate. I was told I was negative...my first test came back weakly positive and apprantely my blood reacted to this test..I had tests every 3 months for a year...15 years on I'm still negative but it really was a horrible experience. I feel for those who never had the chance I did to be negative. I hope that a cure is on the horizon |
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"HIV awareness is really close to my heart...about 15 years ago I was given the wrong result and was told I was HIV positive. I remember sitting there just feeling numb I didn't know where to turn. I then had the secondary test...they give you a second test to make sure the first test was accurate. I was told I was negative...my first test came back weakly positive and apprantely my blood reacted to this test..I had tests every 3 months for a year...15 years on I'm still negative but it really was a horrible experience. I feel for those who never had the chance I did to be negative. I hope that a cure is on the horizon "
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"HIV awareness is really close to my heart...about 15 years ago I was given the wrong result and was told I was HIV positive. I remember sitting there just feeling numb I didn't know where to turn. I then had the secondary test...they give you a second test to make sure the first test was accurate. I was told I was negative...my first test came back weakly positive and apprantely my blood reacted to this test..I had tests every 3 months for a year...15 years on I'm still negative but it really was a horrible experience. I feel for those who never had the chance I did to be negative. I hope that a cure is on the horizon "
Oh Bless you that must have been an awful shock. So glad you found out you were negative in the end.
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"people are frightened to be associated with the subject in case it sticks... or it is a male gay/bi thing brought to their own doorstep thinking.
you only have to check the 'good intent best wishes' for people suffering on threads like these and the ones for Pink Ribbon and Movember.
all suffering benefits from compassion."
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"5 years on, more sad passings and new people living with the virus.
god bless you all.
and again, thanks Admin for the banner tomorrow."
I know someone with HIV so in full support of this even more so |
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By *iew OP Man
over a year ago
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"5 years on, more sad passings and new people living with the virus.
god bless you all.
and again, thanks Admin for the banner tomorrow.
I know someone with HIV so in full support of this even more so "
all the best to your friend |
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Right not being deliberately controversial so apols if it sounds that way but had I not seen this thread I wouldn't have known about it. So the awareness of this day I think is severely lacking.
And what exactly does 'World AIDS day' actually achieve? How is it different to any other day? Surely education should continue non stop throughout the year so what's special or different about what's going to happen today - 1st Dec?
Anyway - like others on here my thoughts are with those that have this horrible disease x |
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My son is 26 when he was about 14 which is 12 years ago i know he was educated about aids in school. They used to have 2 hrs a week studies on varies subjects.
He had to do a test and when he brought it home we did it together and he scored higher than me, so i know at least some schools dtared with the education. Does this no longer happen or do all schools do it now?
Not only did my knowledge of aids kick in with the 1982 campaign but it was also the turning point of me taking my sexual health seriously, i was very blase ip to that point.
It was a hard hitting campaign and i know many of my generation still remember it.
Thankyou for the ribbon again admin |
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