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By *5happycouple OP Couple
over a year ago
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Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'? |
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My friend and me came up with a new term for a woman who enjoys sex with different men a knopper, it's a combination of knicker and dropper. We wanted a positive term for a woman who has several different sexual partners |
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"My friend and me came up with a new term for a woman who enjoys sex with different men a knopper, it's a combination of knicker and dropper. We wanted a positive term for a woman who has several different sexual partners"
Do we need a name though? Why can't we just say "woman" without needing to define her by how many sexual partners she has had? |
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By *5happycouple OP Couple
over a year ago
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"My friend and me came up with a new term for a woman who enjoys sex with different men a knopper, it's a combination of knicker and dropper. We wanted a positive term for a woman who has several different sexual partners"
Not sure that sounds very positive, especially as it is very similar to the work knob, which has nothing to do with women at all! lol |
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"My friend and me came up with a new term for a woman who enjoys sex with different men a knopper, it's a combination of knicker and dropper. We wanted a positive term for a woman who has several different sexual partners
Do we need a name though? Why can't we just say "woman" without needing to define her by how many sexual partners she has had?"
It was invented after much wine and caterwauling to songs of musicals. We thought it would be good to have a feminine version of the word stud |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?"
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing"
Accusations of rape are taken a lot more seriously than they used to be. The majority of people don't have that attitude towards sex crimes which is a great thing. More people come forward because they are treated with more respect and there are measures in place to try and reduce the traumatic experience of testifying in court |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I am of the much hated, mocked and generally denigrated (on here) PC Brigade.
I challenge use of language at times on here because we are using a written form that remains on here for years. Threads get bumped up from time to time.
I don't care that those that think I'm an uptight, sanctimonious do-gooder have a go at me because their language on here shows just how they think of women, people of colour, homosexuals, people with disabilities and a whole range of others.
Their go to response on anything THEY think is spoiling the old ways is, PC gone mad. It has as much logic and reason to it as me responding with 'wibble'.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing"
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
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Some people talk such twaddle. I don't think they can hear themselves |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
Some people talk such twaddle. I don't think they can hear themselves"
Where we have women denigrating women, gay men denigrating women and heterosexual men denigrating women I find it hard to accept the idea we have equality or that things have really moved on that much.
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
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By his logic I would deserve to be raped many times because I emasculate men frequently by being tall and big, often taller and bigger than them |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
Accusations of rape are taken a lot more seriously than they used to be. The majority of people don't have that attitude towards sex crimes which is a great thing. More people come forward because they are treated with more respect and there are measures in place to try and reduce the traumatic experience of testifying in court"
Yes, it is reassuring to know that true victims can come forward |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
By his logic I would deserve to be raped many times because I emasculate men frequently by being tall and big, often taller and bigger than them"
The teenager with me wanted to shout him down asking why he was sexualising children.
The fora are a lot like Speakers' Corner.  |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
By his logic I would deserve to be raped many times because I emasculate men frequently by being tall and big, often taller and bigger than them"
I personally don't know how I feel about a woman being taller than me, part of me thinks it would be hot, especially if she likes heels too, but I'm a perve and part of me feels emasculated by the idea at the same time. Maybe I'm just wondering how I'd feel because I've not met a woman taller than me yet |
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"I am of the much hated, mocked and generally denigrated (on here) PC Brigade.
I challenge use of language at times on here because we are using a written form that remains on here for years. Threads get bumped up from time to time.
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I don't care that those that think I'm an uptight, sanctimonious do-gooder have a go at me because their language on here shows just how they think of women, people of colour, homosexuals, people with disabilities and a whole range of others.
Their go to response on anything THEY think is spoiling the old ways is, PC gone mad. It has as much logic and reason to it as me responding with 'wibble'.
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Agreed! |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
By his logic I would deserve to be raped many times because I emasculate men frequently by being tall and big, often taller and bigger than them
I personally don't know how I feel about a woman being taller than me, part of me thinks it would be hot, especially if she likes heels too, but I'm a perve and part of me feels emasculated by the idea at the same time. Maybe I'm just wondering how I'd feel because I've not met a woman taller than me yet"
How tall are you? |
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Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
Some people talk such twaddle. I don't think they can hear themselves
Where we have women denigrating women, gay men denigrating women and heterosexual men denigrating women I find it hard to accept the idea we have equality or that things have really moved on that much.
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Yes, it will take a lot more than what has currently been done to change millennia of rigid thinking towards women. It's kinda scary put into perspective |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
By his logic I would deserve to be raped many times because I emasculate men frequently by being tall and big, often taller and bigger than them
I personally don't know how I feel about a woman being taller than me, part of me thinks it would be hot, especially if she likes heels too, but I'm a perve and part of me feels emasculated by the idea at the same time. Maybe I'm just wondering how I'd feel because I've not met a woman taller than me yet
How tall are you?"
6 foot, and you? |
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Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
Some people talk such twaddle. I don't think they can hear themselves
Where we have women denigrating women, gay men denigrating women and heterosexual men denigrating women I find it hard to accept the idea we have equality or that things have really moved on that much.
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You forgot to say men/gay men/women denigrating men so maybe you're right |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
By his logic I would deserve to be raped many times because I emasculate men frequently by being tall and big, often taller and bigger than them
I personally don't know how I feel about a woman being taller than me, part of me thinks it would be hot, especially if she likes heels too, but I'm a perve and part of me feels emasculated by the idea at the same time. Maybe I'm just wondering how I'd feel because I've not met a woman taller than me yet
How tall are you?
6 foot, and you?"
6 foot 1 |
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By *5happycouple OP Couple
over a year ago
Tooting / dept 23 France |
"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
By his logic I would deserve to be raped many times because I emasculate men frequently by being tall and big, often taller and bigger than them
I personally don't know how I feel about a woman being taller than me, part of me thinks it would be hot, especially if she likes heels too, but I'm a perve and part of me feels emasculated by the idea at the same time. Maybe I'm just wondering how I'd feel because I've not met a woman taller than me yet
How tall are you?
6 foot, and you?
6 foot 1"
Didn't think this was going to turn into a matchmaking thread ! lol, let us know how the meet goes.... |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
Accusations of rape are taken a lot more seriously than they used to be. The majority of people don't have that attitude towards sex crimes which is a great thing. More people come forward because they are treated with more respect and there are measures in place to try and reduce the traumatic experience of testifying in court
Yes, it is reassuring to know that true victims can come forward"
When I did jury duty it was good to see screens, and initial statements to police are videoed so the video is played, it reassured me to know that if such a heinous thing happened to me or someone I care about then they wouldn't have to see the face of the person who hurt them or answer more questions than necessary ie have to answer questions from the prosecutor and the defence lawyer. With the video statement it's only cross examination they have to face. |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
By his logic I would deserve to be raped many times because I emasculate men frequently by being tall and big, often taller and bigger than them
I personally don't know how I feel about a woman being taller than me, part of me thinks it would be hot, especially if she likes heels too, but I'm a perve and part of me feels emasculated by the idea at the same time. Maybe I'm just wondering how I'd feel because I've not met a woman taller than me yet
How tall are you?
6 foot, and you?
6 foot 1"
I might have to arrange a trip to wherever you be hiding |
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"I am of the much hated, mocked and generally denigrated (on here) PC Brigade.
I challenge use of language at times on here because we are using a written form that remains on here for years. Threads get bumped up from time to time.
I don't care that those that think I'm an uptight, sanctimonious do-gooder have a go at me because their language on here shows just how they think of women, people of colour, homosexuals, people with disabilities and a whole range of others.
Their go to response on anything THEY think is spoiling the old ways is, PC gone mad. It has as much logic and reason to it as me responding with 'wibble'.
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By *5happycouple OP Couple
over a year ago
Tooting / dept 23 France |
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Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
Some people talk such twaddle. I don't think they can hear themselves
Where we have women denigrating women, gay men denigrating women and heterosexual men denigrating women I find it hard to accept the idea we have equality or that things have really moved on that much.
Yes, it will take a lot more than what has currently been done to change millennia of rigid thinking towards women. It's kinda scary put into perspective"
This may also be controversial, but what role does religion play in those types of roles that subdue the natural sexual power of women? I always understood that by controlling when people could have sex (only when married and then with the lights out on a Friday night) they were able to control the population as a whole. This probably goes for most religions although I am not an expert on all of them. |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
Accusations of rape are taken a lot more seriously than they used to be. The majority of people don't have that attitude towards sex crimes which is a great thing. More people come forward because they are treated with more respect and there are measures in place to try and reduce the traumatic experience of testifying in court
Yes, it is reassuring to know that true victims can come forward
When I did jury duty it was good to see screens, and initial statements to police are videoed so the video is played, it reassured me to know that if such a heinous thing happened to me or someone I care about then they wouldn't have to see the face of the person who hurt them or answer more questions than necessary ie have to answer questions from the prosecutor and the defence lawyer. With the video statement it's only cross examination they have to face."
I've never been summoned for jury duty, nor been to court for any reason, but it's good to know that victims are kept from further trauma nowadays |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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This may also be controversial, but what role does religion play in those types of roles that subdue the natural sexual power of women? I always understood that by controlling when people could have sex (only when married and then with the lights out on a Friday night) they were able to control the population as a whole. This probably goes for most religions although I am not an expert on all of them."
Why is that controversial? We have been inculcated to believe menstruating is dirty and unclean. This follows through in orthodox religions that you shouldn't touch women as they may be in their unclean phase. There are rituals of cleansing at the end of the period (the micvah for Orthodox Jews, for instance) and then sex may resume.
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
By his logic I would deserve to be raped many times because I emasculate men frequently by being tall and big, often taller and bigger than them
I personally don't know how I feel about a woman being taller than me, part of me thinks it would be hot, especially if she likes heels too, but I'm a perve and part of me feels emasculated by the idea at the same time. Maybe I'm just wondering how I'd feel because I've not met a woman taller than me yet
How tall are you?
6 foot, and you?
6 foot 1
I might have to arrange a trip to wherever you be hiding"
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This may also be controversial, but what role does religion play in those types of roles that subdue the natural sexual power of women? I always understood that by controlling when people could have sex (only when married and then with the lights out on a Friday night) they were able to control the population as a whole. This probably goes for most religions although I am not an expert on all of them.
Why is that controversial? We have been inculcated to believe menstruating is dirty and unclean. This follows through in orthodox religions that you shouldn't touch women as they may be in their unclean phase. There are rituals of cleansing at the end of the period (the micvah for Orthodox Jews, for instance) and then sex may resume.
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There's something similar in Islam, and menstruating women are not allowed to enter a mosque. In Catholicism, women used to have to be churched after giving birth as the act of giving birth made them unclean but i don't know if this is still practiced |
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By *5happycouple OP Couple
over a year ago
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This may also be controversial, but what role does religion play in those types of roles that subdue the natural sexual power of women? I always understood that by controlling when people could have sex (only when married and then with the lights out on a Friday night) they were able to control the population as a whole. This probably goes for most religions although I am not an expert on all of them.
Why is that controversial? We have been inculcated to believe menstruating is dirty and unclean. This follows through in orthodox religions that you shouldn't touch women as they may be in their unclean phase. There are rituals of cleansing at the end of the period (the micvah for Orthodox Jews, for instance) and then sex may resume.
There's something similar in Islam, and menstruating women are not allowed to enter a mosque. In Catholicism, women used to have to be churched after giving birth as the act of giving birth made them unclean but i don't know if this is still practiced "
and yet in something like Wicca, it is all seen as a powerful energy which frightens the 'average' man |
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Some months back there was an article in the metro about a female judge making a comment about women who had been raped, I can't remember exactly what was quoted, but it sounded to me very much "they get what's coming to them for dressing like sluts" if that's a female judge making such a baseless and archaic accusation, then it's gotta be a really deep issue that needs addressing in our society. However, since then, the Rotherham scandals, among others, have surfaced, so clearly something is changing
I went to Speakers' Corner recently. A gay man (he said he was gay during his speech) was saying that girls and their mothers were dressing in ways that would ensure they would be abused, raped and, more importantly, deservedly so because they (we women) have gone too far in emasculating men.
Some people talk such twaddle. I don't think they can hear themselves
Where we have women denigrating women, gay men denigrating women and heterosexual men denigrating women I find it hard to accept the idea we have equality or that things have really moved on that much.
Yes, it will take a lot more than what has currently been done to change millennia of rigid thinking towards women. It's kinda scary put into perspective
This may also be controversial, but what role does religion play in those types of roles that subdue the natural sexual power of women? I always understood that by controlling when people could have sex (only when married and then with the lights out on a Friday night) they were able to control the population as a whole. This probably goes for most religions although I am not an expert on all of them."
I have two opposing views with regards to this statement, first of all, I agree that giving specific guidelines to how and when people have sex is absurd, especially in this day and age where the options for safe sex are manifold. Conversely, some of the population could seriously use birth control to prevent overpopulation, however, that way is not necessarily the most sensible way |
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the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps.. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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This may also be controversial, but what role does religion play in those types of roles that subdue the natural sexual power of women? I always understood that by controlling when people could have sex (only when married and then with the lights out on a Friday night) they were able to control the population as a whole. This probably goes for most religions although I am not an expert on all of them.
Why is that controversial? We have been inculcated to believe menstruating is dirty and unclean. This follows through in orthodox religions that you shouldn't touch women as they may be in their unclean phase. There are rituals of cleansing at the end of the period (the micvah for Orthodox Jews, for instance) and then sex may resume.
There's something similar in Islam, and menstruating women are not allowed to enter a mosque. In Catholicism, women used to have to be churched after giving birth as the act of giving birth made them unclean but i don't know if this is still practiced "
All three Abrahamic faiths have their versions of women being unclean.
The last time I heard of someone being churched was about 30 years ago. I'm sure some will still do this though.
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This may also be controversial, but what role does religion play in those types of roles that subdue the natural sexual power of women? I always understood that by controlling when people could have sex (only when married and then with the lights out on a Friday night) they were able to control the population as a whole. This probably goes for most religions although I am not an expert on all of them.
Why is that controversial? We have been inculcated to believe menstruating is dirty and unclean. This follows through in orthodox religions that you shouldn't touch women as they may be in their unclean phase. There are rituals of cleansing at the end of the period (the micvah for Orthodox Jews, for instance) and then sex may resume.
There's something similar in Islam, and menstruating women are not allowed to enter a mosque. In Catholicism, women used to have to be churched after giving birth as the act of giving birth made them unclean but i don't know if this is still practiced
and yet in something like Wicca, it is all seen as a powerful energy which frightens the 'average' man"
I know that in Catholicism, the pain of childbirth is said to be punishment for Eve giving into temptation but I think in a religion that doesn't teach about the balance between male and female, the patriarchy sees this 'power' as a challenge to male domination. Perhaps. |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?"
The male equivalent is also a slut.
No issue with dirty language so long as we give everyone the same treatment.
Why make a distinction? |
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By *5happycouple OP Couple
over a year ago
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps.."
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?"
Men get the word virile - strong, energy and sex drive. I'm not sure what the equivalent is for women.
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?"
It shouldn't simples |
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"Been thinking today about the different use of language and the old stereotypes that we inadvertently continue to support. For example, what constitutes a 'slut' and what is the male equivalent? A stud? Likewise, you could be a greedy girl and want lots of cocks but can a man be a greedy boy if he wants lots of pussy's? Just wondering what the male versions of these common terms are and if it is still down to the fact that many many years ago, women were not supposed to enjoy sex as it was only intended between married couples for the purpose of having children. Is there still an attitude that women who enjoy sex are 'bad' while men who enjoy sex are 'good'?
The male equivalent is also a slut.
No issue with dirty language so long as we give everyone the same treatment.
Why make a distinction?"
Some people just love playing the victim
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?"
Who says it is. Why is being a slut a bad thing?
People are complex. I maybe a slut one minute and fridged the next.
I'm sure allanis Morissette wrote a song about it. |
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?"
I can safely say that I have been afraid of women's sexual desires as well as my own. So I can totally believe that logic |
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?
Men get the word virile - strong, energy and sex drive. I'm not sure what the equivalent is for women.
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Speaking of which, I just typed promiscuous into Google and this is the first entry
having or characterized by many transient sexual relationships.
"she's a wild, promiscuous, good-time girl" |
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over a year ago
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?
Who says it is. Why is being a slut a bad thing?
People are complex. I maybe a slut one minute and fridged the next.
I'm sure allanis Morissette wrote a song about it."
I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint, I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm your dream, I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?
Who says it is. Why is being a slut a bad thing?
People are complex. I maybe a slut one minute and fridged the next.
I'm sure allanis Morissette wrote a song about it.
I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint, I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm your dream, I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?
Men get the word virile - strong, energy and sex drive. I'm not sure what the equivalent is for women.
Speaking of which, I just typed promiscuous into Google and this is the first entry
having or characterized by many transient sexual relationships.
"she's a wild, promiscuous, good-time girl""
The use of the diminutive too. |
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?
Who says it is. Why is being a slut a bad thing?
People are complex. I maybe a slut one minute and fridged the next.
I'm sure allanis Morissette wrote a song about it.
I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint, I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm your dream, I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way
Exactly. "
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?
Men get the word virile - strong, energy and sex drive. I'm not sure what the equivalent is for women.
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The word you're looking for is muliebral. |
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?
Who says it is. Why is being a slut a bad thing?
People are complex. I maybe a slut one minute and fridged the next.
I'm sure allanis Morissette wrote a song about it.
I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint, I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm your dream, I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way
Exactly.
Meredith Brooks - Bitch "
Wow just goes to show how you think you know something for years only to be completely wrong.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?
Men get the word virile - strong, energy and sex drive. I'm not sure what the equivalent is for women.
The word you're looking for is muliebral."
Thanks for the new word. 
It doesn't quite have the same impact and drive does it? Ladylike and feminine. Nothing about sex, unless you count maternal. |
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?
Who says it is. Why is being a slut a bad thing?
People are complex. I maybe a slut one minute and fridged the next.
I'm sure allanis Morissette wrote a song about it.
I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint, I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm your dream, I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way
Exactly.
Meredith Brooks - Bitch
Wow just goes to show how you think you know something for years only to be completely wrong.
Cheers. "
No problem, she does sound like Alannis Morisette though |
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"the issue's with a woman's sexuality and religion and its 'rules' etc could be down to insecure men having written most of the 'good books' to which adherence is the norm for many within them..
in a word, insecurity perhaps..
This is what I think as well, as women's sexual desires can be so scarey, it needs to be controlled. As any bully will tell you, controlling with fear and disgust is fairly easy to do, and as it then makes the bully feel bigger and better, a good result for them. Do it over thousands of years, and the women believe it totally. Why should the fact that I like to have sex be seen in a negative way while if my husband says he likes to have sex it is positive?
Men get the word virile - strong, energy and sex drive. I'm not sure what the equivalent is for women.
The word you're looking for is muliebral.
Thanks for the new word.
It doesn't quite have the same impact and drive does it? Ladylike and feminine. Nothing about sex, unless you count maternal. "
Latin was never a particularly precise language, more poetic. Greek was the most commonly used language amongst the Romans as it's more literal. Virility only really means a man has the ability to procreate - it means different things to different cultures. |
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