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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off " it is classed as a racist remark, and you need to look at the context it was in, japanese is correct work when abbreviated it can be seen as racist | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. " Who the fuck is he? If he used the word in a derogatory way or intended to cause offence with it then the course of action is right. Whether it ruins his career or not depends on what his career is and how he deals with the situation I guess. If he is in the public eye then he needs to be aware of the things he us saying and the potential damage using derogatory words can do. You may not think jap is too bad a word but it was used as a negative term against Japanese people in the past which is why there has been this reaction I should imagine. | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. Who the fuck is he? " Just another mediocre footballer, only Leicester City fans will have heard of him  | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off it is classed as a racist remark, and you need to look at the context it was in, japanese is correct work when abbreviated it can be seen as racist" -------- Nonsense. No more racist than calling me a Scot instead of Scottish..... where's the difference? The world has gone mad. The political correctness brigade have a lot to answer for. Its no wonder some people are afraid to have an opinion, or say anything publicly for fear that the PC police are lying in wait to ambush them...! ------------ | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off it is classed as a racist remark, and you need to look at the context it was in, japanese is correct work when abbreviated it can be seen as racist -------- Nonsense. No more racist than calling me a Scot instead of Scottish..... where's the difference? The world has gone mad. The political correctness brigade have a lot to answer for. Its no wonder some people are afraid to have an opinion, or say anything publicly for fear that the PC police are lying in wait to ambush them...! ------------" i dont make the rules, i just follow some of them | |||
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"Another sheep" .. no i am irish born and see no offence to paddy, others do.. as i am a traveller, its is racist to refer to me as gypo or pikey, but these words are still used | |||
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"I've never heard anyone say "Yo Brit, walk on". He was trying to be derogatory on top of being arrogant. But I wouldn't call it racism. " This  | |||
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"I've never heard anyone say "Yo Brit, walk on". He was trying to be derogatory on top of being arrogant. But I wouldn't call it racism. " like my earlier reply, it goes back to, what context it was used in | |||
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"Bring back love thy neighbour " showing your age there | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off it is classed as a racist remark, and you need to look at the context it was in, japanese is correct work when abbreviated it can be seen as racist -------- Nonsense. No more racist than calling me a Scot instead of Scottish..... where's the difference? The world has gone mad. The political correctness brigade have a lot to answer for. Its no wonder some people are afraid to have an opinion, or say anything publicly for fear that the PC police are lying in wait to ambush them...! ------------" well said | |||
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"Bring back love thy neighbour showing your age there" and their inherent bigotry.. | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. " Not seen the context it was printed in so hard to say but if someone called me a Brit or a Pom as the Aussies say should I ask for them to be sacked also? | |||
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" Here's the full transcript: “Jap. Yo Jap. Walk on. Walk on. Oi, walk on. Yeah you, Jap. Walk on.”" He was rapping to him?  | |||
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" Here's the full transcript: “Jap. Yo Jap. Walk on. Walk on. Oi, walk on. Yeah you, Jap. Walk on.”" "With hate in your heart, and you'll never work again, YOU'LL NEVER WORK AGAIN" | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. Not seen the context it was printed in so hard to say but if someone called me a Brit or a Pom as the Aussies say should I ask for them to be sacked also?" brit is not seen as a racist slur, it all depends on the context the person uses it in though | |||
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" Here's the full transcript: “Jap. Yo Jap. Walk on. Walk on. Oi, walk on. Yeah you, Jap. Walk on.”" reg vardy circa 1973. more leary than racist. on the up side he'd of been shot 150 years ago for looking at a mans cards | |||
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"He should be slapped just for saying "yo" You're not Vanilla Ice, mate" i have a paddle for that | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. Not seen the context it was printed in so hard to say but if someone called me a Brit or a Pom as the Aussies say should I ask for them to be sacked also? brit is not seen as a racist slur, it all depends on the context the person uses it in though" Neither is Jap to many people from Japan Americans general don't take offence at Yank either but on the Brit issue I know a number of people from Glasgow who would disagree with you on the Brit label. | |||
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"Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. Im offended by people who fuckin vote for this sorta crap. should i call the cops ? "call the cock squad  | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off " By the P word I assume you mean paki? So basically what you are saying it pisses you off that people challenge you using a racist term? | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. Not seen the context it was printed in so hard to say but if someone called me a Brit or a Pom as the Aussies say should I ask for them to be sacked also? brit is not seen as a racist slur, it all depends on the context the person uses it in though Neither is Jap to many people from Japan Americans general don't take offence at Yank either but on the Brit issue I know a number of people from Glasgow who would disagree with you on the Brit label. " Disagree though they might, we are Brits. | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off By the P word I assume you mean paki? So basically what you are saying it pisses you off that people challenge you using a racist term? "its funny .. back home in ireland we refer to the north as the black north and they get called black bastar.., alos i get called pikey a lot , different people see it in different ways | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. Not seen the context it was printed in so hard to say but if someone called me a Brit or a Pom as the Aussies say should I ask for them to be sacked also? brit is not seen as a racist slur, it all depends on the context the person uses it in though Neither is Jap to many people from Japan Americans general don't take offence at Yank either but on the Brit issue I know a number of people from Glasgow who would disagree with you on the Brit label. Disagree though they might, we are Brits." Disagree as in personally or as in nobody would be offended by being called a Brit? | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off By the P word I assume you mean paki? So basically what you are saying it pisses you off that people challenge you using a racist term? "Im offended by your attitude and sheep like nature where you accept being told what to think and what to say like some mindless drone. Come the revolution such people will be incarcerated for life without charge or trial. You are on the list | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. " Given the context of how the term.was used why would you feel sorry for him? The easiest way to not get sacked for being an aggress racist is not to be an aggressive racist. This is even more true when your teams Thai owners have already sacked 3 players this summer for similar behaviour and their manager as a consequence of it. Deseeves all he gets | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. Not seen the context it was printed in so hard to say but if someone called me a Brit or a Pom as the Aussies say should I ask for them to be sacked also? brit is not seen as a racist slur, it all depends on the context the person uses it in though Neither is Jap to many people from Japan Americans general don't take offence at Yank either but on the Brit issue I know a number of people from Glasgow who would disagree with you on the Brit label. Disagree though they might, we are Brits. Disagree as in personally or as in nobody would be offended by being called a Brit?" Some would disagree. Some might even be offended but none would have just cause. If you're 'from Glasgow ', you're a Brit. It may not suit your politics or your religion but it's a fact. | |||
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"however you paint it, hide it, its racism " However you twist corrupt and abuse words into a stick you can beat someone with its still a stick crafted slyly in a manner to inflict damage on another in an underhand way. | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off By the P word I assume you mean paki? So basically what you are saying it pisses you off that people challenge you using a racist term?
Im offended by your attitude and sheep like nature where you accept being told what to think and what to say like some mindless drone. Come the revolution such people will be incarcerated for life without charge or trial. You are on the list "If you were abused for being a TV what would your response be? | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. Not seen the context it was printed in so hard to say but if someone called me a Brit or a Pom as the Aussies say should I ask for them to be sacked also? brit is not seen as a racist slur, it all depends on the context the person uses it in though Neither is Jap to many people from Japan Americans general don't take offence at Yank either but on the Brit issue I know a number of people from Glasgow who would disagree with you on the Brit label. Disagree though they might, we are Brits. Disagree as in personally or as in nobody would be offended by being called a Brit? Some would disagree. Some might even be offended but none would have just cause. If you're 'from Glasgow ', you're a Brit. It may not suit your politics or your religion but it's a fact." I guess you voted No in the vote then  | |||
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"not used a racist term" How was it used then? | |||
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"Funny it,s never racist when getting called a jock a paddy Taffy or brit pomie" or a honkie **rolls about laughing** | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off By the P word I assume you mean paki? So basically what you are saying it pisses you off that people challenge you using a racist term? "Well said young man. As so man have said before and so many have missed or ignored, it's about context. It's also the about the history of racism and oppression which is the larger context. There will always be small minded people who accuse others of being sheep simply because they disagree with them just. Happy Swinging everyone.  | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off By the P word I assume you mean paki? So basically what you are saying it pisses you off that people challenge you using a racist term?
Im offended by your attitude and sheep like nature where you accept being told what to think and what to say like some mindless drone. Come the revolution such people will be incarcerated for life without charge or trial. You are on the list
If you were abused for being a TV what would your response be?"define abused ? | |||
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"Why can't people grasp the importance of historical context? Cracker and pom aren't considered very offensive because they've never been used in the context of mass human suffering. I'm glad this chap is in trouble, footballers need to be role models." Absolutely, well said. | |||
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"Why can't people grasp the importance of historical context? Cracker and pom aren't considered very offensive because they've never been used in the context of mass human suffering. I'm glad this chap is in trouble, footballers need to be role models." why do they need to be role models. | |||
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"Why can't people grasp the importance of historical context? Cracker and pom aren't considered very offensive because they've never been used in the context of mass human suffering. I'm glad this chap is in trouble, footballers need to be role models. why do they need to be role models." Because they're paid a lot of money to be ambassadors for their respective clubs and are expected to carry the name well and not associate it with scandal. | |||
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"The next thing you will be racist when stud at the cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday that up sets a few people as well. But i will be there with my bling on my chest as always " How is remerance Sunday even relevant? | |||
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"Whether or not you find the term 'Jap' offensive is neither here nor there really The fact of the matter is that he works in an industry where he is expected to be a role model and is expected to act with integrity when in the public eye and any football club will do their best to distance themselves from such things. If action is taken against him by the club then he really has no complaints." So you want an example made of him whether or not he is a racist. And people wonder why guys like me get the hump when things like this are taken to the extreme. Nice cock by the way com  | |||
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"Why can't people grasp the importance of historical context? Cracker and pom aren't considered very offensive because they've never been used in the context of mass human suffering. I'm glad this chap is in trouble, footballers need to be role models. why do they need to be role models. Because they're paid a lot of money to be ambassadors for their respective clubs and are expected to carry the name well and not associate it with scandal. " well no. you are saying "footballers need to be role models." Im guessing you dont own a football club and pay wages to have such an understanding and agreement with any professional footballers ? who are you to expect them to be role models ? And what do you mean by role model ? Have they sold their soul where they need to behave think and act in a way that meets your approval and the approval of the rest of the world 24/7 ? I imagine a cursory glance over your life and plenty of people would have something to say about your life in a critical judgemental fashion. | |||
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" why do they need to be role models." Every person who holds a position of authority or fame needs to. We as a society instinctually look up to people in the limelight. That's why the media report it and discussions crop up on swinging sites when these people falter. | |||
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"Think about it" I have. And I can see no logocal reason why anyone would link remembrance Sunday to this thread or suggest that the event is on anyway racist? | |||
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" I imagine a cursory glance over your life and plenty of people would have something to say about your life in a critical judgemental fashion." A "he who casts the first stone" sort of argument isn't constructive here. On that logic, we could start overlooking a lot of things. And then the question of where to draw the line is raised. At what point does a famous person's behaviour become an issue? | |||
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" why do they need to be role models. Every person who holds a position of authority or fame needs to. We as a society instinctually look up to people in the limelight. That's why the media report it and discussions crop up on swinging sites when these people falter. " errr scuse me . speak for yourself thanks. Its exceedingly rare i look up to anyone in a position of authority , power or fame as some marker on how to be a good human being. Praps thats where your so called society goes wrong eh | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off it is classed as a racist remark, and you need to look at the context it was in, japanese is correct work when abbreviated it can be seen as racist" So is calling someone a "Brit" racist too? | |||
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" I imagine a cursory glance over your life and plenty of people would have something to say about your life in a critical judgemental fashion. A "he who casts the first stone" sort of argument isn't constructive here. On that logic, we could start overlooking a lot of things. And then the question of where to draw the line is raised. At what point does a famous person's behaviour become an issue? " sorry you dont find it constructive.I think you will find that there is plenty that people in power and authority over look already. which is the basis of my point, hypocrisy double standards. I mean i really do give a fuck about some minor celeb athlete calling someone a jap when there are people dying in the world through dehydration, hunger, cholera and power crazed freaks sending drones overto bomb a school full of children and teachers. I guess its a case of what your priorities are, yours are clear. | |||
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"Why can't people grasp the importance of historical context? Cracker and pom aren't considered very offensive because they've never been used in the context of mass human suffering. I'm glad this chap is in trouble, footballers need to be role models." Spot on T x | |||
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"Why can't people grasp the importance of historical context? Cracker and pom aren't considered very offensive because they've never been used in the context of mass human suffering. I'm glad this chap is in trouble, footballers need to be role models." Very well summed up. I agree. | |||
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"Being in the public eye means you have to watch what you say. You can't mouth off and use someone's race as an insult and expect to be famous and revered for very long! Xx" | |||
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"Not really what Leicester need after the whole Thailand prostitute thing " Tell me about it! | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off it is classed as a racist remark, and you need to look at the context it was in, japanese is correct work when abbreviated it can be seen as racist -------- Nonsense. No more racist than calling me a Scot instead of Scottish..... where's the difference? The world has gone mad. The political correctness brigade have a lot to answer for. Its no wonder some people are afraid to have an opinion, or say anything publicly for fear that the PC police are lying in wait to ambush them...! ------------" This | |||
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"I was told the Yank term came about in WW2 (yank wank) not sure if its true or not... i guess that makes it sexist not racist... "You've obviously never heard of the American civil war then | |||
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"Why should a young person behave like a role model just because they happen to have a talent that attracts public exposure.... "Because he's an employee of the club and as such is expected by his employers and as per his contract to act in a certain way, especially in public. It's no different to any other job. | |||
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"The next thing you will be racist when stud at the cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday that up sets a few people as well. But i will be there with my bling on my chest as always " "Stood" Is that the bling from Argos or Matalan?  | |||
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"Why should a young person behave like a role model just because they happen to have a talent that attracts public exposure....
Because he's an employee of the club and as such is expected by his employers and as per his contract to act in a certain way, especially in public.
It's no different to any other job. "I've not read his contract,,,, Have you? | |||
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" sorry you dont find it constructive.I think you will find that there is plenty that people in power and authority over look already. which is the basis of my point, hypocrisy double standards. I mean i really do give a fuck about some minor celeb athlete calling someone a jap when there are people dying in the world through dehydration, hunger, cholera and power crazed freaks sending drones overto bomb a school full of children and teachers. I guess its a case of what your priorities are, yours are clear." Haha, it's not about priorities, it's about being a perfectionist why can't we live in a world without dehydration, hunger and war as well as ethnic sensitivity?
And sure, plenty of misdeeds are overlooked, either staying secret forever or emerging decades later. But that doesn't mean we should ignore instances like this.
And for the record, I am a complete iconoclast. I don't think we should look up to anyone. Though politics and wealth divides us, we're all made from the same flesh and bone. I'm just aware that we live in a world where people think differently, and idolisation is commonplace.
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".... Neither is Jap to many people from Japan Americans general don't take offence at Yank either but on the Brit issue I know a number of people from Glasgow who would disagree with you on the Brit label. Disagree though they might, we are Brits. Disagree as in personally or as in nobody would be offended by being called a Brit? Some would disagree. Some might even be offended but none would have just cause. If you're 'from Glasgow ', you're a Brit. It may not suit your politics or your religion but it's a fact. I guess you voted No in the vote then "As did most Scots. | |||
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" sorry you dont find it constructive.I think you will find that there is plenty that people in power and authority over look already. which is the basis of my point, hypocrisy double standards. I mean i really do give a fuck about some minor celeb athlete calling someone a jap when there are people dying in the world through dehydration, hunger, cholera and power crazed freaks sending drones overto bomb a school full of children and teachers. I guess its a case of what your priorities are, yours are clear. Haha, it's not about priorities, it's about being a perfectionist why can't we live in a world without dehydration, hunger and war as well as ethnic sensitivity?
And sure, plenty of misdeeds are overlooked, either staying secret forever or emerging decades later. But that doesn't mean we should ignore instances like this.
And for the record, I am a complete iconoclast. I don't think we should look up to anyone. Though politics and wealth divides us, we're all made from the same flesh and bone. I'm just aware that we live in a world where people think differently, and idolisation is commonplace.
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"The next thing you will be racist when stud at the cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday that up sets a few people as well. But i will be there with my bling on my chest as always "Stood" Is that the bling from Argos or Matalan? "a kamikaze post in sympathy, awww | |||
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"Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. Im offended by people who fuckin vote for this sorta crap. should i call the cops ? "assume your talking about race hate legislation..? | |||
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"Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. Im offended by people who fuckin vote for this sorta crap. should i call the cops ?
assume your talking about race hate legislation..?
"you can assume all you want. I blocked you ages ago for your offensive views and trolling. You seem to have some sort of obsessive fixation with me. Maybe you could get some counseling for that | |||
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"Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. Im offended by people who fuckin vote for this sorta crap. should i call the cops ?
assume your talking about race hate legislation..?
you can assume all you want. I blocked you ages ago for your offensive views and trolling. You seem to have some sort of obsessive fixation with me. Maybe you could get some counseling for that "Paula you are confusing me with someone else.. i dont do offensive, honest yes.. how am i 'obsessed with you' given i've never looked at your profile for starters.. | |||
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"Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. Im offended by people who fuckin vote for this sorta crap. should i call the cops ?
assume your talking about race hate legislation..?
you can assume all you want. I blocked you ages ago for your offensive views and trolling. You seem to have some sort of obsessive fixation with me. Maybe you could get some counseling for that
Paula you are confusing me with someone else..
i dont do offensive, honest yes..
how am i 'obsessed with you' given i've never looked at your profile for starters..
"and to add that anyone who wants to use the 'green arrow' will see the lack of any substance re obsessive in your previous postings.. hey ho.. | |||
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"Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. Im offended by people who fuckin vote for this sorta crap. should i call the cops ?
assume your talking about race hate legislation..?
you can assume all you want. I blocked you ages ago for your offensive views and trolling. You seem to have some sort of obsessive fixation with me. Maybe you could get some counseling for that
Paula you are confusing me with someone else..
i dont do offensive, honest yes..
how am i 'obsessed with you' given i've never looked at your profile for starters..
and to add that anyone who wants to use the 'green arrow' will see the lack of any substance re obsessive in your previous postings..
hey ho.. "This isnt the only profile i have had on this site. You might think you would just take the hint I know you are a last word freak so go ahead and have it. | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off it is classed as a racist remark, and you need to look at the context it was in, japanese is correct work when abbreviated it can be seen as racist -------- Nonsense. No more racist than calling me a Scot instead of Scottish..... where's the difference? The world has gone mad. The political correctness brigade have a lot to answer for. Its no wonder some people are afraid to have an opinion, or say anything publicly for fear that the PC police are lying in wait to ambush them...! ------------ i dont make the rules, i just follow some of them" ----------- Thats part of the problem... nobody knows what the PC rules are... it's kinda, maybe, possibly, not sure but make it up as you go along..... It's Big Brother stuff... living in fear of an unclear, undefined set of rules open to different interpretations... ------------- | |||
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" Thats part of the problem... nobody knows what the PC rules are... it's kinda, maybe, possibly, not sure but make it up as you go along..... It's Big Brother stuff... living in fear of an unclear, undefined set of rules open to different interpretations... -------------" Are you saying it to describe something or explain something? Are you saying it to hurt someone's feelings? Intimidate them? Belittle them? If someone can't tell the difference then it's usually because they don't care to. | |||
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"Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. Im offended by people who fuckin vote for this sorta crap. should i call the cops ?
assume your talking about race hate legislation..?
you can assume all you want. I blocked you ages ago for your offensive views and trolling. You seem to have some sort of obsessive fixation with me. Maybe you could get some counseling for that
Paula you are confusing me with someone else..
i dont do offensive, honest yes..
how am i 'obsessed with you' given i've never looked at your profile for starters..
and to add that anyone who wants to use the 'green arrow' will see the lack of any substance re obsessive in your previous postings..
hey ho..
This isnt the only profile i have had on this site. You might think you would just take the hint I know you are a last word freak so go ahead and have it."Considering your response to me earlirr on in the thread when your reaction to an opinion you disagreed with was words to the effect of I will be killed come the revolution you possibly aren't best placed to accuse others of being offensive  | |||
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"Load of bollocks just an abbreviation there the racist that make a big think about it like the P word bloody do gooders and political correctness pisses me off it is classed as a racist remark, and you need to look at the context it was in, japanese is correct work when abbreviated it can be seen as racist -------- Nonsense. No more racist than calling me a Scot instead of Scottish..... where's the difference? The world has gone mad. The political correctness brigade have a lot to answer for. Its no wonder some people are afraid to have an opinion, or say anything publicly for fear that the PC police are lying in wait to ambush them...! ------------ i dont make the rules, i just follow some of them ----------- Thats part of the problem... nobody knows what the PC rules are... it's kinda, maybe, possibly, not sure but make it up as you go along..... It's Big Brother stuff... living in fear of an unclear, undefined set of rules open to different interpretations... -------------" Maybe you could ask all those who use tge term pc as an insult on here to explain it to you? | |||
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" Thats part of the problem... nobody knows what the PC rules are... it's kinda, maybe, possibly, not sure but make it up as you go along..... It's Big Brother stuff... living in fear of an unclear, undefined set of rules open to different interpretations... ------------- Are you saying it to describe something or explain something? Are you saying it to hurt someone's feelings? Intimidate them? Belittle them? If someone can't tell the difference then it's usually because they don't care to. " Newsflash - it's not the speakers intent that counts with 'racist' legislation. It's how the receiver 'feels'. You're welcome | |||
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" Thats part of the problem... nobody knows what the PC rules are... it's kinda, maybe, possibly, not sure but make it up as you go along..... It's Big Brother stuff... living in fear of an unclear, undefined set of rules open to different interpretations... ------------- Are you saying it to describe something or explain something? Are you saying it to hurt someone's feelings? Intimidate them? Belittle them? If someone can't tell the difference then it's usually because they don't care to. Newsflash - it's not the speakers intent that counts with 'racist' legislation. It's how the receiver 'feels'. You're welcome " The intent of the 'giver' will likely impact how the 'receiver' feels - I imagine. | |||
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"Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. " I just saw this. Is this some kind of joke? The law in question is a legal limit on the freedom of expression, which has existed in a variety of different countries in different forms for centuries. If we didn't have some sort of regulation on expression, I suppose you'd be happy having the neo-nazis holding annual marches in London, graphic abortion footage shown on adverts by pro-life organisations, and columns in every tabloid full of profanity? If you're offended by any of it, don't look, right? Sure, that's the answer | |||
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"Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. Im offended by people who fuckin vote for this sorta crap. should i call the cops ?
assume your talking about race hate legislation..?
you can assume all you want. I blocked you ages ago for your offensive views and trolling. You seem to have some sort of obsessive fixation with me. Maybe you could get some counseling for that
Paula you are confusing me with someone else..
i dont do offensive, honest yes..
how am i 'obsessed with you' given i've never looked at your profile for starters..
and to add that anyone who wants to use the 'green arrow' will see the lack of any substance re obsessive in your previous postings..
hey ho..
This isnt the only profile i have had on this site. You might think you would just take the hint I know you are a last word freak so go ahead and have it.
Considering your response to me earlirr on in the thread when your reaction to an opinion you disagreed with was words to the effect of I will be killed come the revolution you possibly aren't best placed to accuse others of being offensive "haha oh my lord a drama queen for a troll. why dont you go back and read what i said and quote what i said instead of lying about what i said. Its plainly there in type. Im still waiting for you to define the abuse you talked about. | |||
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"People who are making reference to political correctness going mad clearly haven't grasped the idea of how context can alter the meaning of a word. Calling a person a Brit isn't really offensive because that term has never been used in a derogatory manner, at least not on a large scale. In contrast, words like paki, jap, ni**er, spic, gook, and all the others originate from some sort of hatred and/or context of human suffering. I really don't see why that's so hard to understand. Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. I just saw this. Is this some kind of joke? The law in question is a legal limit on the freedom of expression, which has existed in a variety of different countries in different forms for centuries. If we didn't have some sort of regulation on expression, I suppose you'd be happy having the neo-nazis holding annual marches in London, graphic abortion footage shown on adverts by pro-life organisations, and columns in every tabloid full of profanity? If you're offended by any of it, don't look, right? Sure, that's the answer "If calling someone a jap is racist I feel sorry for the people really been racially abused. They don't have a chance anymore because of the wallies shouting it at everything and anything. | |||
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"People who are making reference to political correctness going mad clearly haven't grasped the idea of how context can alter the meaning of a word. Calling a person a Brit isn't really offensive because that term has never been used in a derogatory manner, at least not on a large scale. In contrast, words like paki, jap, ni**er, spic, gook, and all the others originate from some sort of hatred and/or context of human suffering. I really don't see why that's so hard to understand. Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. I just saw this. Is this some kind of joke? The law in question is a legal limit on the freedom of expression, which has existed in a variety of different countries in different forms for centuries. If we didn't have some sort of regulation on expression, I suppose you'd be happy having the neo-nazis holding annual marches in London, graphic abortion footage shown on adverts by pro-life organisations, and columns in every tabloid full of profanity? If you're offended by any of it, don't look, right? Sure, that's the answer "some of the things you suggest arent a bad idea. why shouldnt pro lifers show graphic scenes of abortion, it might make people more sexually responsible instead of the disposable life policy we now have. Ive seen graphic pictures on my fag packet so why not abortion. ive seen barnados show graphic scenes of abuse both physical and psychological. This law is just about the control of people. Neo nazis have the right to march anywhere they choose. To stop them as a group just because you dont agree with their philosophy is just Fascism.which basically is what the pc brigade are, facists. when did we become this bunch of people who cant cope with being offended ? I will point out that this thread is about someone using the term "Jap". Not someone preaching hate about other people with different views ideas and opinions and calling for them to be be headed in the street like dogs. | |||
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" some of the things you suggest arent a bad idea. why shouldnt pro lifers show graphic scenes of abortion, it might make people more sexually responsible instead of the disposable life policy we now have. " Um, because children might be watching? I don't want pro-lifers to lack a voice, but unnecessarily graphic scenes that could upset a lot of people isn't cool. Just Because you may have the stomach to look at pictures on your cigarettes doesn't mean everyone does. " This law is just about the control of people. Neo nazis have the right to march anywhere they choose. To stop them as a group just because you dont agree with their philosophy is just Fascism.which basically is what the pc brigade are, facists. when did we become this bunch of people who cant cope with being offended ? " When we tolerated hate groups previously, and a bunch of people were killed, raped, mutilate, and tortured. I'm struggling to see how telling a hate group they're not allowed to spread their toxic message is fascism. Certain human rights like expressing yourself have always been qualified - you have a certain degree of freedom to say how you feel. However, in a real fascist state, your unpopular view gets you imprisoned or killed. " I will point out that this thread is about someone using the term "Jap". " Mmm,i agree, but the previous arguments share the same underlying principle - where does freedom of expression stop? I can't clarify my "jap" point any further. It's all about its context. | |||
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"People who are making reference to political correctness going mad clearly haven't grasped the idea of how context can alter the meaning of a word. Calling a person a Brit isn't really offensive because that term has never been used in a derogatory manner, at least not on a large scale. In contrast, words like paki, jap, ni**er, spic, gook, and all the others originate from some sort of hatred and/or context of human suffering. I really don't see why that's so hard to understand. Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. I just saw this. Is this some kind of joke? The law in question is a legal limit on the freedom of expression, which has existed in a variety of different countries in different forms for centuries. If we didn't have some sort of regulation on expression, I suppose you'd be happy having the neo-nazis holding annual marches in London, graphic abortion footage shown on adverts by pro-life organisations, and columns in every tabloid full of profanity? If you're offended by any of it, don't look, right? Sure, that's the answer
If calling someone a jap is racist I feel sorry for the people really been racially abused. They don't have a chance anymore because of the wallies shouting it at everything and anything. "The term Jap is a racist slur, just as Nigger and Paki are. Because there has been worse racial abuse doesn't make it any less racist. Since when, in the case of unacceptable behaviour, has it ever been right to ignore it because sometimes worse happens. I'm also willing to bet that everyone here shouting about how it isn't racist, (as if they would know how being on the receiving end of it feels), would be shouting equally loudly if it had been them that was abused. I'm actually ashamed to be the same species as some of the posters on these fora sometimes. | |||
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"Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. Im offended by people who fuckin vote for this sorta crap. should i call the cops ?
assume your talking about race hate legislation..?
you can assume all you want. I blocked you ages ago for your offensive views and trolling. You seem to have some sort of obsessive fixation with me. Maybe you could get some counseling for that
Paula you are confusing me with someone else..
i dont do offensive, honest yes..
how am i 'obsessed with you' given i've never looked at your profile for starters..
and to add that anyone who wants to use the 'green arrow' will see the lack of any substance re obsessive in your previous postings..
hey ho..
This isnt the only profile i have had on this site. You might think you would just take the hint I know you are a last word freak so go ahead and have it."you are talking complete cobblers, fabrication, lying you choose because they are all appropriate to what you have alleged above.. i do find it sad that your response to a question perhaps to evade it is to lie.. | |||
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"Maybe it is best to ignore each other now please "Rugger's, i'm more than happy to do that but wont let it go unchallenged if the same lies are said again.. | |||
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"People who are making reference to political correctness going mad clearly haven't grasped the idea of how context can alter the meaning of a word. Calling a person a Brit isn't really offensive because that term has never been used in a derogatory manner, at least not on a large scale. In contrast, words like paki, jap, ni**er, spic, gook, and all the others originate from some sort of hatred and/or context of human suffering. I really don't see why that's so hard to understand. Would someone please explain to me how you can have a fucking law about others taking offence ? Fucking lunacy of the most mental bastard disorder. I just saw this. Is this some kind of joke? The law in question is a legal limit on the freedom of expression, which has existed in a variety of different countries in different forms for centuries. If we didn't have some sort of regulation on expression, I suppose you'd be happy having the neo-nazis holding annual marches in London, graphic abortion footage shown on adverts by pro-life organisations, and columns in every tabloid full of profanity? If you're offended by any of it, don't look, right? Sure, that's the answer
If calling someone a jap is racist I feel sorry for the people really been racially abused. They don't have a chance anymore because of the wallies shouting it at everything and anything.
The term Jap is a racist slur, just as Nigger and Paki are.
Because there has been worse racial abuse doesn't make it any less racist.
Since when, in the case of unacceptable behaviour, has it ever been right to ignore it because sometimes worse happens.
I'm also willing to bet that everyone here shouting about how it isn't racist, (as if they would know how being on the receiving end of it feels), would be shouting equally loudly if it had been them that was abused.
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" Sorry but that is complete left wing based rubbish. " But your view encourages an ethnic divide. If you overlook Jap, you'll have to overlook all the other ethnic slurs too, otherwise your viewpoint isn't coherent. | |||
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" Sorry but that is complete left wing based rubbish. But your view encourages an ethnic divide. If you overlook Jap, you'll have to overlook all the other ethnic slurs too, otherwise your viewpoint isn't coherent." I saw have I got news for you earlier. A man was blasted for having a top on with busty women in cartoon form not showing anything firing guns as sexist. Were do we stop. This makes the fight against real race issues belittled ( sorry I can't think of the word I'm looking for)because people like me and there are many see things as going to far. Black people of Brixton are moaning that to many white people are moving in and taking over businesses. Nothing has been said about it. It's all a complete farce insitigated by the PC mob | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. Who the fuck is he? Just another mediocre footballer, only Leicester City fans will have heard of him "He is actually a fairly good English footballer if you have looked at his rise to playing in a prem team
he is also an England player although that might have gone out of the window now after his awful behaviour
yes i am an avid and besotted leicester City fan, season ticket holder and also go to most away games
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"It was singling out someone due to their race, never in a million years would he shout 'English' or whatever. The club sacked 3 players recently and that wasn't clear cut but had racist connotations - interested to see how they deal with this one. It doesn't help solve a bigger picture really, but it's good seeing it as an issue being worked towards." It should be taken in the context just like calling someone a ginger cunt a fat cunt or a 4 eyed cunt. No more no less. | |||
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" Sorry but that is complete left wing based rubbish. But your view encourages an ethnic divide. If you overlook Jap, you'll have to overlook all the other ethnic slurs too, otherwise your viewpoint isn't coherent. I saw have I got news for you earlier. A man was blasted for having a top on with busty women in cartoon form not showing anything firing guns as sexist. Were do we stop. This makes the fight against real race issues belittled ( sorry I can't think of the word I'm looking for)because people like me and there are many see things as going to far. Black people of Brixton are moaning that to many white people are moving in and taking over businesses. Nothing has been said about it. It's all a complete farce insitigated by the PC mob" So if this is going to far you are basically saying it is okay to use terms like nigger and paki? So if this is to far where are you drawing the line? Verbal abuse is okay? Is physical assault? Do share with us what you think is far enough? And is for your Brixton reference, it's about gentrification, it's effecting people of many ethnicities and your statement of 'black people moaning about white people' is so simplistic it only highlights how uninformed you actually are on that issue. | |||
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"It's all a complete farce insitigated by the PC mob" Also someone earlier in the thread was saying they don't know what PC is, as you clearly do maybe you can explain? | |||
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" Sorry but that is complete left wing based rubbish. But your view encourages an ethnic divide. If you overlook Jap, you'll have to overlook all the other ethnic slurs too, otherwise your viewpoint isn't coherent. I saw have I got news for you earlier. A man was blasted for having a top on with busty women in cartoon form not showing anything firing guns as sexist. Were do we stop. This makes the fight against real race issues belittled ( sorry I can't think of the word I'm looking for)because people like me and there are many see things as going to far. Black people of Brixton are moaning that to many white people are moving in and taking over businesses. Nothing has been said about it. It's all a complete farce insitigated by the PC mob" It's still very easy for you to spout off about what is and is not offensive when you are not the one being attacked. Why would it seem offensive to you when it wasn't something you can relate to or understand? It's absolute narcissism to think that the only things that matter are the things that matter to you and to expect the world to be run according to your values. I'd hate to have so little consideration and empathy. | |||
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" some of the things you suggest arent a bad idea. why shouldnt pro lifers show graphic scenes of abortion, it might make people more sexually responsible instead of the disposable life policy we now have. drivel and a complete ignorance on what fascism is. Um, because children might be watching? I don't want pro-lifers to lack a voice, but unnecessarily graphic scenes that could upset a lot of people isn't cool. Just Because you may have the stomach to look at pictures on your cigarettes doesn't mean everyone does. This law is just about the control of people. Neo nazis have the right to march anywhere they choose. To stop them as a group just because you dont agree with their philosophy is just Fascism.which basically is what the pc brigade are, facists. when did we become this bunch of people who cant cope with being offended ? When we tolerated hate groups previously, and a bunch of people were killed, raped, mutilate, and tortured. I'm struggling to see how telling a hate group they're not allowed to spread their toxic message is fascism. Certain human rights like expressing yourself have always been qualified - you have a certain degree of freedom to say how you feel. However, in a real fascist state, your unpopular view gets you imprisoned or killed. I will point out that this thread is about someone using the term "Jap". Mmm,i agree, but the previous arguments share the same underlying principle - where does freedom of expression stop? I can't clarify my "jap" point any further. It's all about its context. " | |||
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" some of the things you suggest arent a bad idea. why shouldnt pro lifers show graphic scenes of abortion, it might make people more sexually responsible instead of the disposable life policy we now have. drivel and a complete ignorance on what fascism is. Um, because children might be watching? I don't want pro-lifers to lack a voice, but unnecessarily graphic scenes that could upset a lot of people isn't cool. Just Because you may have the stomach to look at pictures on your cigarettes doesn't mean everyone does. This law is just about the control of people. Neo nazis have the right to march anywhere they choose. To stop them as a group just because you dont agree with their philosophy is just Fascism.which basically is what the pc brigade are, facists. when did we become this bunch of people who cant cope with being offended ? When we tolerated hate groups previously, and a bunch of people were killed, raped, mutilate, and tortured. I'm struggling to see how telling a hate group they're not allowed to spread their toxic message is fascism. Certain human rights like expressing yourself have always been qualified - you have a certain degree of freedom to say how you feel. However, in a real fascist state, your unpopular view gets you imprisoned or killed. I will point out that this thread is about someone using the term "Jap". Mmm,i agree, but the previous arguments share the same underlying principle - where does freedom of expression stop? I can't clarify my "jap" point any further. It's all about its context. " | |||
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" some of the things you suggest arent a bad idea. why shouldnt pro lifers show graphic scenes of abortion, it might make people more sexually responsible instead of the disposable life policy we now have. drivel and a complete ignorance on what fascism is. Um, because children might be watching? I don't want pro-lifers to lack a voice, but unnecessarily graphic scenes that could upset a lot of people isn't cool. Just Because you may have the stomach to look at pictures on your cigarettes doesn't mean everyone does. This law is just about the control of people. Neo nazis have the right to march anywhere they choose. To stop them as a group just because you dont agree with their philosophy is just Fascism.which basically is what the pc brigade are, facists. when did we become this bunch of people who cant cope with being offended ? When we tolerated hate groups previously, and a bunch of people were killed, raped, mutilate, and tortured. I'm struggling to see how telling a hate group they're not allowed to spread their toxic message is fascism. Certain human rights like expressing yourself have always been qualified - you have a certain degree of freedom to say how you feel. However, in a real fascist state, your unpopular view gets you imprisoned or killed. I will point out that this thread is about someone using the term "Jap". Mmm,i agree, but the previous arguments share the same underlying principle - where does freedom of expression stop? I can't clarify my "jap" point any further. It's all about its context. "There are plenty of us thinking that about your posts too. | |||
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" Sorry but that is complete left wing based rubbish. But your view encourages an ethnic divide. If you overlook Jap, you'll have to overlook all the other ethnic slurs too, otherwise your viewpoint isn't coherent. I saw have I got news for you earlier. A man was blasted for having a top on with busty women in cartoon form not showing anything firing guns as sexist. Were do we stop. This makes the fight against real race issues belittled ( sorry I can't think of the word I'm looking for)because people like me and there are many see things as going to far. Black people of Brixton are moaning that to many white people are moving in and taking over businesses. Nothing has been said about it. It's all a complete farce insitigated by the PC mob It's still very easy for you to spout off about what is and is not offensive when you are not the one being attacked. Why would it seem offensive to you when it wasn't something you can relate to or understand? It's absolute narcissism to think that the only things that matter are the things that matter to you and to expect the world to be run according to your values. I'd hate to have so little consideration and empathy." Do you need to be sexually abused as a kid to know it's wrong. I work with lots of ethnic minorites in my trade and nearly all think it's wrong. | |||
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" Sorry but that is complete left wing based rubbish. But your view encourages an ethnic divide. If you overlook Jap, you'll have to overlook all the other ethnic slurs too, otherwise your viewpoint isn't coherent. I saw have I got news for you earlier. A man was blasted for having a top on with busty women in cartoon form not showing anything firing guns as sexist. Were do we stop. This makes the fight against real race issues belittled ( sorry I can't think of the word I'm looking for)because people like me and there are many see things as going to far. Black people of Brixton are moaning that to many white people are moving in and taking over businesses. Nothing has been said about it. It's all a complete farce insitigated by the PC mob It's still very easy for you to spout off about what is and is not offensive when you are not the one being attacked. Why would it seem offensive to you when it wasn't something you can relate to or understand? It's absolute narcissism to think that the only things that matter are the things that matter to you and to expect the world to be run according to your values. I'd hate to have so little consideration and empathy. Do you need to be sexually abused as a kid to know it's wrong. I work with lots of ethnic minorites in my trade and nearly all think it's wrong. " No, some seem to be able to realise it's wrong without experiencing it. That comes from the empathy and understanding you appear to be lacking in this case. Anyone who has been subject to a history of racial discrimination and abuse should know better than to condone it happening to others. | |||
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"Young girls of all races in areas of Britain have been sexually abused by Asian men. People in power refused to do anything for fear of being called a racist. This is the reason I think we have gone to far with race issues in this country. Like I said previously shouting racism to people every time some one says something to another race takes away the real issues of racism " And like I said, just because it doesn't seem like racism to you, and because worse things happen, doesn't mean it isn't racism or that it should be ignored. | |||
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" It isn't . And it's not just my view . Many others do to. We now have a quota system in public sector jobs now. Do you think that's right. Or is that racist. " And plenty of others disagree with you. | |||
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" It isn't . And it's not just my view . Many others do to. We now have a quota system in public sector jobs now. Do you think that's right. Or is that racist. This is an urban myth." My mate is from NZ. tried to get in a emergency response team. He kept getting turned down even tho he was a fireman in NZ. After his 6th attempt he was taken aside and asked to put Maori down has his ethnic background. He got accepted straight away. The reason. They were doing a recruitment drive to get more ethnic minorities in the job. This is classed as positive discrimination . It's happening across all public sector services. Ticking boxes rather then the right man for the job. Football is looking at the Rooney rule. Again. Quotas not the right man for the job. It's not an urban myth it's real time and it's happening in every town across the country. Say anything and your deemed a racist. | |||
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" It isn't . And it's not just my view . Many others do to. We now have a quota system in public sector jobs now. Do you think that's right. Or is that racist. This is an urban myth. My mate is from NZ. tried to get in a emergency response team. He kept getting turned down even tho he was a fireman in NZ. After his 6th attempt he was taken aside and asked to put Maori down has his ethnic background. He got accepted straight away. The reason. They were doing a recruitment drive to get more ethnic minorities in the job. This is classed as positive discrimination . It's happening across all public sector services. Ticking boxes rather then the right man for the job. Football is looking at the Rooney rule. Again. Quotas not the right man for the job. It's not an urban myth it's real time and it's happening in every town across the country. Say anything and your deemed a racist. " As someone with part Maori ancestry, it's totally ironic to hear white people call the Maori an ethnic minority in their own country. | |||
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" It isn't . And it's not just my view . Many others do to. We now have a quota system in public sector jobs now. Do you think that's right. Or is that racist. This is an urban myth. My mate is from NZ. tried to get in a emergency response team. He kept getting turned down even tho he was a fireman in NZ. After his 6th attempt he was taken aside and asked to put Maori down has his ethnic background. He got accepted straight away. The reason. They were doing a recruitment drive to get more ethnic minorities in the job. This is classed as positive discrimination . It's happening across all public sector services. Ticking boxes rather then the right man for the job. Football is looking at the Rooney rule. Again. Quotas not the right man for the job. It's not an urban myth it's real time and it's happening in every town across the country. Say anything and your deemed a racist. As someone with part Maori ancestry, it's totally ironic to hear white people call the Maori an ethnic minority in their own country. " This was in England. | |||
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"Young girls of all races in areas of Britain have been sexually abused by Asian men. People in power refused to do anything for fear of being called a racist. This is the reason I think we have gone to far with race issues in this country. Like I said previously shouting racism to people every time some one says something to another race takes away the real issues of racism " How do you define what is a 'real' issue and what isn't though? | |||
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"an old guy on the news today was on about something to do in the war did not catch what it was about but he sad japs a few time,s on about making POW dig there graves before the shot them Should they stop this old heroes Pension now. Watch the news it will be on again " I think it probably ought to be clear by now that those that appear to be concerned about Vardy's behaviour at the casino stipulate the importance of establishing intent and context. For instance: spray painting the word 'paki' on an Asian person's car could be considered offensive because a) it's vandalism and b) the vandal is highlighting the car owner's place of origin to remind him that he's not from 'over here', or that it is a bad thing to come from 'over there' On the other hand, there are instances on this thread where 'paki' has been used in a non offensive, descriptive manner. A difference can be gleaned and It doesn't require one to be overly receptive of nuance. Now, I don't think Vardy is necessarily racist. At most it appears that he angrily used the Japanese fellas place of origin in a negative way. He clearly wasn't being friendly. | |||
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"an old guy on the news today was on about something to do in the war did not catch what it was about but he sad japs a few time,s on about making POW dig there graves before the shot them Should they stop this old heroes Pension now. Watch the news it will be on again I think it probably ought to be clear by now that those that appear to be concerned about Vardy's behaviour at the casino stipulate the importance of establishing intent and context. For instance: spray painting the word 'paki' on an Asian person's car could be considered offensive because a) it's vandalism and b) the vandal is highlighting the car owner's place of origin to remind him that he's not from 'over here', or that it is a bad thing to come from 'over there' On the other hand, there are instances on this thread where 'paki' has been used in a non offensive, descriptive manner. A difference can be gleaned and It doesn't require one to be overly receptive of nuance. Now, I don't think Vardy is necessarily racist. At most it appears that he angrily used the Japanese fellas place of origin in a negative way. He clearly wasn't being friendly." You last bit sums this all up. He wasn't being friendly no. Racist. Certainly not. | |||
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"People of any race not getting say a job just because they are black ect. People of all races getting physically getting attacked because of their race Many real issues other then a bit of name calling during a row especially using a commonly used term. That's just a shortened version of the real name. " But, just because it's not real to you doesn't mean it's not real to them. Surely? | |||
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" It isn't . And it's not just my view . Many others do to. We now have a quota system in public sector jobs now. Do you think that's right. Or is that racist. This is an urban myth. My mate is from NZ. tried to get in a emergency response team. He kept getting turned down even tho he was a fireman in NZ. After his 6th attempt he was taken aside and asked to put Maori down has his ethnic background. He got accepted straight away. The reason. They were doing a recruitment drive to get more ethnic minorities in the job. This is classed as positive discrimination . It's happening across all public sector services. Ticking boxes rather then the right man for the job. Football is looking at the Rooney rule. Again. Quotas not the right man for the job. Say anything and your deemed a racist. " Isn't the Rooney rule a way of ensuring qualified ethnic candidates are given an interview? There is no compulsion to hire the ethnic candidate. Just giving people a fair shot. Hopefully ability will prevail. Are you also upset that major companies such as PWC will ignore the qualifications of candidates and hide them from interviewers so as to not be prejudiced/influenced by achievements - and instead judge the interview on its own merit. The reason is so poorer, less 'qualified'/financially supported people are given more of a chance than they are currently recieving. The system can be skewed - some people are rightly or wrongly trying to redress the imbalance. | |||
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"People of any race not getting say a job just because they are black ect. People of all races getting physically getting attacked because of their race Many real issues other then a bit of name calling during a row especially using a commonly used term. That's just a shortened version of the real name. But, just because it's not real to you doesn't mean it's not real to them. Surely? " One of my arguments is what's real anymore. Anyone want to take this to PM by all means contact me rather then going over the same thing and clogging up the board. | |||
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"an old guy on the news today was on about something to do in the war did not catch what it was about but he sad japs a few time,s on about making POW dig there graves before the shot them Should they stop this old heroes Pension now. Watch the news it will be on again I think it probably ought to be clear by now that those that appear to be concerned about Vardy's behaviour at the casino stipulate the importance of establishing intent and context. For instance: spray painting the word 'paki' on an Asian person's car could be considered offensive because a) it's vandalism and b) the vandal is highlighting the car owner's place of origin to remind him that he's not from 'over here', or that it is a bad thing to come from 'over there' On the other hand, there are instances on this thread where 'paki' has been used in a non offensive, descriptive manner. A difference can be gleaned and It doesn't require one to be overly receptive of nuance. Now, I don't think Vardy is necessarily racist. At most it appears that he angrily used the Japanese fellas place of origin in a negative way. He clearly wasn't being friendly. You last bit sums this all up. He wasn't being friendly no. Racist. Certainly not. " Racist or not - I've no idea and can never know unless I was a close acquaintance. He was certainly attacking/belittling the persons place of origin in order to offend. That's still unacceptable. | |||
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"Belittling his place of origin. Oh please. He used it just like calling someone ginger erm ginger. " So instead of belittling his appearance...he used his place of origin... In order to offend. | |||
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"He is probably like a lot of other footballers, poorly educated, surrounded by people who constantly tell him he can do no wrong and lacking in self awareness. Racist? Who knows. Stupid? Probably. " I'd add rude and insensitive to your list too. | |||
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"People of any race not getting say a job just because they are black ect. People of all races getting physically getting attacked because of their race Many real issues other then a bit of name calling during a row especially using a commonly used term. That's just a shortened version of the real name. " So is Paki. According to you that's acceptable too is it? Jap is the same. It's a term that has a history of being used as abusive behind it. It's not just a shortened name. | |||
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" It isn't . And it's not just my view . Many others do to. We now have a quota system in public sector jobs now. Do you think that's right. Or is that racist. I This is an urban myth. My mate is from NZ. tried to get in a emergency response team. He kept getting turned down even tho he was a fireman in NZ. After his 6th attempt he was taken aside and asked to put Maori down has his ethnic background. He got accepted straight away. The reason. They were doing a recruitment drive to get more ethnic minorities in the job. This is classed as positive discrimination . It's happening across all public sector services. Ticking boxes rather then the right man for the job. Football is looking at the Rooney rule. Again. Quotas not the right man for the job. It's not an urban myth it's real time and it's happening in every town across the country. Say anything and your deemed a racist. " So to clarify to prove it's nit an urban myth you have used an anecdote about a friend who for vall we know doesn't exist?
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" It isn't . And it's not just my view . Many others do to. We now have a quota system in public sector jobs now. Do you think that's right. Or is that racist. I This is an urban myth. My mate is from NZ. tried to get in a emergency response team. He kept getting turned down even tho he was a fireman in NZ. After his 6th attempt he was taken aside and asked to put Maori down has his ethnic background. He got accepted straight away. The reason. They were doing a recruitment drive to get more ethnic minorities in the job. This is classed as positive discrimination . It's happening across all public sector services. Ticking boxes rather then the right man for the job. Football is looking at the Rooney rule. Again. Quotas not the right man for the job. It's not an urban myth it's real time and it's happening in every town across the country. Say anything and your deemed a racist. So to clarify to prove it's nit an urban myth you have used an anecdote about a friend who for vall we know doesn't exist?
Do you have anything more substantial. Else I'll have to tell you about my mate down the pub and how he only gives jobs to the white brits"I've got a mate down the pub who's Japanese. He says the term Jap isn't insulting at all and he's Japanese so he should know. He says he loves being called a Jap. It's even better, he reckons, if people make jokes about slitty eyes. True story* *or maybe not. | |||
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"Yes as the Duke of Edinburgh he came out with it a few years ago but he is a Greek so it can not be racist coming from a foreigner " The Duke of Edinburgh is well known for saying unacceptable things though. If he says it, it's virtually certain to be offensive in some way of another. | |||
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"I wonder if people would be offended if I called Phil a bubble. " Has bubble ever been used to degrade a whole race? | |||
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" It isn't . And it's not just my view . Many others do to. We now have a quota system in public sector jobs now. Do you think that's right. Or is that racist. This is an urban myth. My mate is from NZ. tried to get in a emergency response team. He kept getting turned down even tho he was a fireman in NZ. After his 6th attempt he was taken aside and asked to put Maori down has his ethnic background. He got accepted straight away. The reason. They were doing a recruitment drive to get more ethnic minorities in the job. This is classed as positive discrimination . It's happening across all public sector services. Ticking boxes rather then the right man for the job. Football is looking at the Rooney rule. Again. Quotas not the right man for the job. It's not an urban myth it's real time and it's happening in every town across the country. Say anything and your deemed a racist. " 'emergency response team', with whom..? | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. " *yawns* Says a talking penis | |||
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"People who call this racist,they are the racist not the person that said it,because they are trying to cause trouble" Incisive. | |||
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"People who call this racist,they are the racist not the person that said it,because they are trying to cause trouble" so if i'm on the bus tomorrow and a person racially abuses someone and i raise an objection about it then i am the racist.. yeah that's logical.. remind me never to call the police if i see someone breaking into someone's car/house etc.. | |||
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"People who call this racist,they are the racist not the person that said it,because they are trying to cause trouble so if i'm on the bus tomorrow and a person racially abuses someone and i raise an objection about it then i am the racist.. yeah that's logical.. remind me never to call the police if i see someone breaking into someone's car/house etc.. " You'll be patted, cuffed and taken 'downtown'! | |||
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"Called a racist for calling someone a 'jap' What a load of old bollocks. Poor blokes career could be ruined over nothing. Who the fuck is he? Just another mediocre footballer, only Leicester City fans will have heard of him "Dunno...Sunderland found out who he was in 5 minutes on Saturday | |||
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