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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?"
They've gotten to YOU too haven't they?!!
*battle ensues* |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?"
Yep.
My family were very 'churchy' and religious when I was young. As soon as I hit 6 I opted to not be dragged along to Sunday school and started playing rugby instead. Never been into a church a since bar weddings and funerals since (except a few cathedrals as a tourist but that's more to do with architecture than religion.)
I've chosen my own path since re employment/education. I've decided my own relationships, friends and social circles. I've made my own choices re voting and support of various organisations. I have an eclectic taste in film, music and books.
I've formed my own opinions on a range of subjects via research, life experience and conversations with others.
So no. The closest I get to being manipulated is emotional pressure from my other half and our child re things they want me to do, things they want me to buy for them and places they want me to take them. Which in all honesty I'm usually planning to do anyway - I just like them to 'work' a little to try and sway me.
Oh. And the woof can pretty much get what she wants just by giving me 'that look'. But in the grand scheme of things I don't see that as manipulation.
As for brainwashing? Good friggin luck trying to work out how my mind works and influence it. I've been trying all my life and still can't work it out myself!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
Yep.
My family were very 'churchy' and religious when I was young. As soon as I hit 6 I opted to not be dragged along to Sunday school and started playing rugby instead. Never been into a church a since bar weddings and funerals since (except a few cathedrals as a tourist but that's more to do with architecture than religion.)
I've chosen my own path since re employment/education. I've decided my own relationships, friends and social circles. I've made my own choices re voting and support of various organisations. I have an eclectic taste in film, music and books.
I've formed my own opinions on a range of subjects via research, life experience and conversations with others.
So no. The closest I get to being manipulated is emotional pressure from my other half and our child re things they want me to do, things they want me to buy for them and places they want me to take them. Which in all honesty I'm usually planning to do anyway - I just like them to 'work' a little to try and sway me.
Oh. And the woof can pretty much get what she wants just by giving me 'that look'. But in the grand scheme of things I don't see that as manipulation.
As for brainwashing? Good friggin luck trying to work out how my mind works and influence it. I've been trying all my life and still can't work it out myself!
A"
You seem very sure, the main aspect of manipulation and brainwashing is that the subject doesn`t know they are being manipulated or brainwashed. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
Yep.
My family were very 'churchy' and religious when I was young. As soon as I hit 6 I opted to not be dragged along to Sunday school and started playing rugby instead. Never been into a church a since bar weddings and funerals since (except a few cathedrals as a tourist but that's more to do with architecture than religion.)
I've chosen my own path since re employment/education. I've decided my own relationships, friends and social circles. I've made my own choices re voting and support of various organisations. I have an eclectic taste in film, music and books.
I've formed my own opinions on a range of subjects via research, life experience and conversations with others.
So no. The closest I get to being manipulated is emotional pressure from my other half and our child re things they want me to do, things they want me to buy for them and places they want me to take them. Which in all honesty I'm usually planning to do anyway - I just like them to 'work' a little to try and sway me.
Oh. And the woof can pretty much get what she wants just by giving me 'that look'. But in the grand scheme of things I don't see that as manipulation.
As for brainwashing? Good friggin luck trying to work out how my mind works and influence it. I've been trying all my life and still can't work it out myself!
A
You seem very sure, the main aspect of manipulation and brainwashing is that the subject doesn`t know they are being manipulated or brainwashed."
I'm sure thanks.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Too deep
Wheres my tin foil hat?
I'm sitting in the corner
Way too deep for us .
Just off to see if anyone wants a meet tomorrow night "
I like your way of thinking.. |
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"I plough my own furrow
How can you be sure you haven`t been manipulated to plough that furrow and to believe it is you ploughing it?"
Meet me - come and see my life.
I can't completely divorce myself from the tentacles of international capital but I'm making a good job of it. |
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?"
Its an interesting question but you need to be more specific in what you refer to, criteria etc..
one could easily accept that with consumerism and the power of the media etc then yes the majority in the nations who buy have done so..
not sure that's what you refer to though..? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
The question is OP have you ?"
Yes, I`m very aware that I have been. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
Its an interesting question but you need to be more specific in what you refer to, criteria etc..
one could easily accept that with consumerism and the power of the media etc then yes the majority in the nations who buy have done so..
not sure that's what you refer to though..?"
I just meet people who say they know they are not being manipulated, i used to be like this before I started to look into it, I`m speaking of authority and people around us using us for their own ends, they are forever devising new ways and tricks to do this, how can we ever be sure we are not? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The fact that you're posting on here means you're on "their" radar... Suitable manipulations will no doubt be forthcoming in order to keep you on the straight and narrow!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"OP is your real name David Webb and are you from Missouri ?
No, and why Missouri?
You'll work it out.
No I wont, tell me? "
I really have to go.
Nixa 9/13/1970 |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"OP is your real name David Webb and are you from Missouri ?
No, and why Missouri?
You'll work it out.
No I wont, tell me?
I really have to go.
Nixa 9/13/1970"
ok got it!
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
The question is OP have you ?
Yes, I`m very aware that I have been."
If you're very aware then they can't have done a very good job |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
The question is OP have you ?
Yes, I`m very aware that I have been.
If you're very aware then they can't have done a very good job"
They did for many years, but I`m also under no illusions that I am being manipulated further, it`s a constant battle once you are aware of it. |
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
Its an interesting question but you need to be more specific in what you refer to, criteria etc..
one could easily accept that with consumerism and the power of the media etc then yes the majority in the nations who buy have done so..
not sure that's what you refer to though..?
I just meet people who say they know they are not being manipulated, i used to be like this before I started to look into it, I`m speaking of authority and people around us using us for their own ends, they are forever devising new ways and tricks to do this, how can we ever be sure we are not?"
well in the old days of industry needing a workforce educated just enough by the state to ensure those in power got their profits etc the control was possibly more evident..
maybe its just adapted to the new working.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
Its an interesting question but you need to be more specific in what you refer to, criteria etc..
one could easily accept that with consumerism and the power of the media etc then yes the majority in the nations who buy have done so..
not sure that's what you refer to though..?
I just meet people who say they know they are not being manipulated, i used to be like this before I started to look into it, I`m speaking of authority and people around us using us for their own ends, they are forever devising new ways and tricks to do this, how can we ever be sure we are not?
well in the old days of industry needing a workforce educated just enough by the state to ensure those in power got their profits etc the control was possibly more evident..
maybe its just adapted to the new working.."
It`s disguised as freedom now, in effect we imprison ourselves.
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
Its an interesting question but you need to be more specific in what you refer to, criteria etc..
one could easily accept that with consumerism and the power of the media etc then yes the majority in the nations who buy have done so..
not sure that's what you refer to though..?
I just meet people who say they know they are not being manipulated, i used to be like this before I started to look into it, I`m speaking of authority and people around us using us for their own ends, they are forever devising new ways and tricks to do this, how can we ever be sure we are not?
well in the old days of industry needing a workforce educated just enough by the state to ensure those in power got their profits etc the control was possibly more evident..
maybe its just adapted to the new working..
It`s disguised as freedom now, in effect we imprison ourselves.
"
not sure i agree, one can allow that but we have much more choice and much more opportunity to learn these days..
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
Its an interesting question but you need to be more specific in what you refer to, criteria etc..
one could easily accept that with consumerism and the power of the media etc then yes the majority in the nations who buy have done so..
not sure that's what you refer to though..?
I just meet people who say they know they are not being manipulated, i used to be like this before I started to look into it, I`m speaking of authority and people around us using us for their own ends, they are forever devising new ways and tricks to do this, how can we ever be sure we are not?
well in the old days of industry needing a workforce educated just enough by the state to ensure those in power got their profits etc the control was possibly more evident..
maybe its just adapted to the new working..
It`s disguised as freedom now, in effect we imprison ourselves.
not sure i agree, one can allow that but we have much more choice and much more opportunity to learn these days..
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But who wants to learn and who is in charge of what is being taught, people are not encouraged to investigate and observe by themselves, so how can they find an opportunity to learn to see?
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
Its an interesting question but you need to be more specific in what you refer to, criteria etc..
one could easily accept that with consumerism and the power of the media etc then yes the majority in the nations who buy have done so..
not sure that's what you refer to though..?
I just meet people who say they know they are not being manipulated, i used to be like this before I started to look into it, I`m speaking of authority and people around us using us for their own ends, they are forever devising new ways and tricks to do this, how can we ever be sure we are not?
well in the old days of industry needing a workforce educated just enough by the state to ensure those in power got their profits etc the control was possibly more evident..
maybe its just adapted to the new working..
It`s disguised as freedom now, in effect we imprison ourselves.
not sure i agree, one can allow that but we have much more choice and much more opportunity to learn these days..
But who wants to learn and who is in charge of what is being taught, people are not encouraged to investigate and observe by themselves, so how can they find an opportunity to learn to see?
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knowledge is power..
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Does` anybody on here think they are not being manipulated or haven`t been brainwashed since childhood?
Its an interesting question but you need to be more specific in what you refer to, criteria etc..
one could easily accept that with consumerism and the power of the media etc then yes the majority in the nations who buy have done so..
not sure that's what you refer to though..?
I just meet people who say they know they are not being manipulated, i used to be like this before I started to look into it, I`m speaking of authority and people around us using us for their own ends, they are forever devising new ways and tricks to do this, how can we ever be sure we are not?
well in the old days of industry needing a workforce educated just enough by the state to ensure those in power got their profits etc the control was possibly more evident..
maybe its just adapted to the new working..
It`s disguised as freedom now, in effect we imprison ourselves.
not sure i agree, one can allow that but we have much more choice and much more opportunity to learn these days..
But who wants to learn and who is in charge of what is being taught, people are not encouraged to investigate and observe by themselves, so how can they find an opportunity to learn to see?
knowledge is power..
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But the want of power gets us back to square one, the n moment you want something, those who have it can control you. |
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