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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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On bbc London news now, a woman in her late 60's travelled to Switzerland to get help to end her life, do you agree with her husband that they should make it available in the uk to? I kinda agree with him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On bbc London news now, a woman in her late 60's travelled to Switzerland to get help to end her life, do you agree with her husband that they should make it available in the uk to? I kinda agree with him."
It depends on why they want to end it first and foremost? |
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Personally yes, I've seen people really suffering and thought 'you wouldn't let a dog live like this' yet we make people go through it, and their loved ones suffer watching it.
I'm sure like anything it could be open to abuse, and others will have different opinions, but I watched my dad die from cancer 4 years ago and it was just awful to see  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"On bbc London news now, a woman in her late 60's travelled to Switzerland to get help to end her life, do you agree with her husband that they should make it available in the uk to? I kinda agree with him.
It depends on why they want to end it first and foremost? "
Cos when she got home she was always tired and didn't do anything than just sit, she said she didn't want to be a burden on her kids to care for her. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"On bbc London news now, a woman in her late 60's travelled to Switzerland to get help to end her life, do you agree with her husband that they should make it available in the uk to? I kinda agree with him.
It depends on why they want to end it first and foremost? Cos when she got home she was always tired and didn't do anything than just sit, she said she didn't want to be a burden on her kids to care for her."
Was she ill |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"On bbc London news now, a woman in her late 60's travelled to Switzerland to get help to end her life, do you agree with her husband that they should make it available in the uk to? I kinda agree with him.
It depends on why they want to end it first and foremost? Cos when she got home she was always tired and didn't do anything than just sit, she said she didn't want to be a burden on her kids to care for her.
Was she ill"
no she wasn't, she just didn't want to get older you know. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"On bbc London news now, a woman in her late 60's travelled to Switzerland to get help to end her life, do you agree with her husband that they should make it available in the uk to? I kinda agree with him.
It depends on why they want to end it first and foremost? Cos when she got home she was always tired and didn't do anything than just sit, she said she didn't want to be a burden on her kids to care for her.
Was she illno she wasn't, she just didn't want to get older you know."
Then no..... |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"On bbc London news now, a woman in her late 60's travelled to Switzerland to get help to end her life, do you agree with her husband that they should make it available in the uk to? I kinda agree with him.
It depends on why they want to end it first and foremost? Cos when she got home she was always tired and didn't do anything than just sit, she said she didn't want to be a burden on her kids to care for her.
Was she ill"
Nothing particularly specific or life limiting but she didn't want to get to that point.
In answer to the OP, yes I would like to see something similar here in the UK.
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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Its an odd one, as she is not ill, and there is no reason for her to want to end her life apart from not wanting to be a burden on her kids. She might have twenty more years in her before that happens (I know my Mum is busily using up our inheritance on holidays, and she is 72) so it seems to me that she is just doing this to make a point.
I believe that we should have the right to have help to end our lives when it has become unbearable to keep going. But the right to have help because we're a bit glum? Is she unable to pick up a bottle of pills? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On bbc London news now, a woman in her late 60's travelled to Switzerland to get help to end her life, do you agree with her husband that they should make it available in the uk to? I kinda agree with him.
It depends on why they want to end it first and foremost? Cos when she got home she was always tired and didn't do anything than just sit, she said she didn't want to be a burden on her kids to care for her."
Sounds rather sad, as though the light had gone from her life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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For me I find it hard to get my head round. I'm not outraged and can completely understand. It's just something I can't process very well. In Belgium and Holland you can do this via the health services and I remember three cases that stand out
1 A killer in prison could not shake the urges he felt and knew he was a danger so he "applied" to kill himself.
2 Two blind twins slowly losing their hearing died together as they didn't want to live with their condition.
3 A lady with Chronics tinnitus (can relate in part)
I find it morbidly strange and very brave at the same time.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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doing my job I work with a lot of end of life people
I agree so long as they are mentally coherent it should be their choice, if they don't have the mental capacity to make that choice I do not feel others should have the rights to make it for them
I always remember a woman I used to go into about four years ago she had had a stroke, as a result had lost her swallowing reflex so couldn't eat or drink, because of her pysical state it was decided she was to weak to have a peg feed fitted as the anesthetic would have killed her so she was basically left to starve to death as there was nothing anybody could do for her
took her five days to die
nobody should have to die in that way, she should have been allowed a dignified death
in cases like that I agree with euthanasia, why leave somebody to starve to death, put them through all that suffering when a simple injection could let them just fall to sleep pain free and dignified
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On bbc London news now, a woman in her late 60's travelled to Switzerland to get help to end her life, do you agree with her husband that they should make it available in the uk to? I kinda agree with him.
It depends on why they want to end it first and foremost? Cos when she got home she was always tired and didn't do anything than just sit, she said she didn't want to be a burden on her kids to care for her."
then she shouldn't have had kids, now she wants to put them through the agony of assisted suicide. some mother that is. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I work in health care and I would like to be able to choose when I go
I don't think it's an unreasonable request
That's my simple answer for this forum  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She doesn't want to end her own life, rather someone do it for her.
Seems selfish."
she is, very very selfish imagine a mother putting her kids through that agony for her own stupid reasons. if she was ill then ok, but FFS nothing wrong with her. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was under the impression that you had to be able to take the last dose of medicine yourself?
I didn't think that anyone else administered it?
Well at least that's what I saw on a documentary about Dignitas
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"On bbc London news now, a woman in her late 60's travelled to Switzerland to get help to end her life, do you agree with her husband that they should make it available in the uk to? I kinda agree with him.
It depends on why they want to end it first and foremost? Cos when she got home she was always tired and didn't do anything than just sit, she said she didn't want to be a burden on her kids to care for her.
Sounds rather sad, as though the light had gone from her life."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do think euthanasia should only be allowed with a doctors note saying it's in the persons best interest it should not be allowed for anybody otherwise you'll just be having loads of people with mental health problems queuing up for it
I don't think it should be a legal rights for everybody only for those it would truely benifit |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I could see some money grabbing sons & daughters lining them up...."
All of this would have been in my longer answer
Vultures,vulnerable people and assisted death do not go well together |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Gill was 75 and healthy ... Personally I think she did the wrong thing as it could spoil it for others that are severely ill and no quality of life left ..
But yes I agree with the OP that we should have something like this in this country so they can travel easier too and not rush into the decision and have their family there if they so wish without all the added cost
Anita x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes ... I was once young, but now old, I could be buried on a barren hill, giving nutrients to a young tree.  "
And then a rambler and his dog will piss over it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes ... I was once young, but now old, I could be buried on a barren hill, giving nutrients to a young tree. And then a rambler and his dog will piss over it."
The circle of life  |
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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago
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It's a tricky one. In principle, I believe a person has the right to choose when to end their own life, incurable disease or not. However, to curb the spate of unnecessary and ill advised deaths this would produce, a really comprehensive framework would have to be created. Doctor's opinions, competency hearings, the works. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Was she assessed to be mentally fit?
I find that unlikely."
Not sure, but she chatted about it to her hubby for the past 30 years the fare of growing old. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My comment above is based on euthanasia in general
Reading the comments about this lady I would say no,
disrespectful to those that are suffering with terminal illness and would give anything for an ounce of her health,
Counselling should be made available but not offer a way out unless there is no other option than deterioration before passing |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes I agree totally. I had to watch my dad suffer and waste away with lung cancer. It even hit his spine which left him paralized from the waist down. You wouldn't let an animal suffer so why do we let humans suffer |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"My comment above is based on euthanasia in general
Reading the comments about this lady I would say no,
disrespectful to those that are suffering with terminal illness and would give anything for an ounce of her health,
Counselling should be made available but not offer a way out unless there is no other option than deterioration before passing"
We all show disrespect for others in a variety of ways. Why should her decision about herself have reference to the health of anyone else? She couldn't hand her health on to someone else (except maybe through organ donation) and she didn't want to live as she was anymore.
I've read the comments on here from those who think suicide is selfish and unforgiveable but this appears to be something she discussed with her partner at great length and he supported her.
Although the Swiss clinic monitors and supervises what happens, she would have had to administer the final dose. That's killing yourself, albeit under supervision.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Is OK to throw away good food when people are starving
In my opinion no and the principal is the same,"
Yet good food is thrown away by the ton by nearly every person in this country. Some supermarkets have actively destroyed good food to stop the hungry scavenging it.
The principle may be the same but the practice in food and individual life choices is very, very different.
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Reading the comments, for the woman in question, no it's not the right thing for her to do.
In the case of illness, definitely yes. My grandparents were big believers in euthanasia, but obviously couldn't do it in this country.
Luckily my grandma was only in hospital for a month before she died. However my grandad had to waste away for 6 months. No quality of life, care 24/7.
As someone said, you would put down an animal in that state, I find it ridiculous that you would leave a human to suffer. |
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there are 2 issues here.
euthanasia for the terminally ill and suicide
personally i think both should be legal. As someone once said life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone.
suicide is surprisingly difficult to achieve and as a depressive all my life i see depression as a terminal illness too. i would like support to end my life when it wins.
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