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would you trust a fat nutritionist?
i know its always a thing people moan about when their overweight Dr goes on about losing weight etc but i have been thinking recently about career paths and my own challenges and have been considering either food nutrition courses or counselling leading to specialising in food counselling (perhaps it would help me along the way too).
I am getting more and more into learning how food affects different people and how the NHS guideline diets dont work for everyone.= as effectively. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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hmm good question..
id had more faith in someone who was larger, had educated themselves and then lost weight over someone who has been blessed with no dietary struggles
but to try and encourage others when they on the surface have not had success when they are armed with knowledge and are experts shows lack of my faith in them or the advice they would give |
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over a year ago
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Not sure
You don't have to follow a diet to know how one works so its totally possible that a big person would know how to teach other people how to eat correctly
But on the other hand I feel a big person telling me how to loose weight is a little like walking into a smoking clinic and the person handing me my patches stood there with a fag on
I'm really not sure how I feel about it to be honest |
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I am not sure if this is relevant but when I was briefly in hospital 15 years ago a chap on my ward had been there two months and expected to be a further two months before they could get his weight down for an op. It made a great impression on me that this poor chap required this level of care to loose weight and that people are so different and the process so complex.
And I must agree that that help from someone who speaks from experience is valuable.
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
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Nope, same as I wouldn't trust a fat gym teacher. I would trust someone who had turned their life around and understood how hard it is.
I did consider nutrition after my own weight loss, but went down the gym instructor route as it fits better around my day job. |
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over a year ago
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"Would you go to a dentist with bad teeth? No. So theres your answer."
I've never looked at my dentists teeth. They're always wearing masks!
Do you go to a Dr that drinks or smokes? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would you go to a dentist with bad teeth? No. So theres your answer.
I've never looked at my dentists teeth. They're always wearing masks!
Do you go to a Dr that drinks or smokes? "
We can't possibly know that, I'm sure lots of doctors do thought, that's why I said above I'm unsure as I'm awear that just because somebody is big that does not mean they do not know how to eat properly they just choice not to, but are still capable of passing the knowlage they choice not to follow themselves onto other people
At the end of the day if their advice works for me does it matter what they look like?
Still unsure  |
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over a year ago
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I am enrolling in a college course September to do a counselling course only part time which is a start as have been through hell and have been working with Mind for the last couple of years and to be honest I do not think I would be here now if it was not for them. And I would love to give something back and help within the mental health community.
Those who have suffered the same pain are the best to understand x |
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"I am enrolling in a college course September to do a counselling course only part time which is a start as have been through hell and have been working with Mind for the last couple of years and to be honest I do not think I would be here now if it was not for them. And I would love to give something back and help within the mental health community.
Those who have suffered the same pain are the best to understand x"
I do agree with that
No amount of uni degrees can't match life experience |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would you go to a dentist with bad teeth? No. So theres your answer.
I've never looked at my dentists teeth. They're always wearing masks!
Do you go to a Dr that drinks or smokes? "
I don't usually have a choice when it's an NHS doctor, but I wouldn't take advice on smoking cessation from a smoker. Plus I don't see a problem with social drinking, however I wouldn't see a doctor that obviously was an alcoholic as it seems reckless.
As far as the OP, I wouldn't see a nutritionist at all as I believe it's similar to a life coach (I don't need that kind of micromanagement in my life). If I were to though, again I wouldn't choose to see one that cannot take their own advice. I'd question how good they were at the job if they weren't even able to help themselves.
I'd expect a nutritionist to be an example of their practice - similarly to how you expect a make up artist to have good make up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would you go to a dentist with bad teeth? No. So theres your answer.
I've never looked at my dentists teeth. They're always wearing masks!
Do you go to a Dr that drinks or smokes? "
I lived with a doctor once. We used to go for wild nights out, id go home at 6am and he would go straight to work in A&E  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I used to go to a slimming club where the consultant was on the larger size ...
I found it hard to take her seriously when she criticised me for a gain in class when she had checked in at the all you can eat buffet on face book the night before lol
But the same can be said when I joined a class where the consultant had only lost 1/2 stone to get to her target and so would never understand the struggle of being severally overweight and unhappy
I wish you luck with what ever you decide
A x
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"I am enrolling in a college course September to do a counselling course only part time which is a start as have been through hell and have been working with Mind for the last couple of years and to be honest I do not think I would be here now if it was not for them. And I would love to give something back and help within the mental health community.
Those who have suffered the same pain are the best to understand x
I do agree with that
No amount of uni degrees can't match life experience "
I am looking forward to it got to start living in the now and looking to the future would not have said that 4 years ago x |
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You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success |
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"You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success "
Although this makes sense in theory, if the person hasn't reached a point where they have noticeably "come through" the other side it's just gonna appear farcical. Perhaps like the Little Britain sketch. |
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"You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success
Although this makes sense in theory, if the person hasn't reached a point where they have noticeably "come through" the other side it's just gonna appear farcical. Perhaps like the Little Britain sketch."
I see your point but for it to be someone still on their journey too they are walking beside you that appeals more to me. In a way it would be similar to the relationship and alcohol or drug addict has with their sponsors, their sponsors are reviving addicts theirselves so know how they feel at each stage of the journey |
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I would trust a fat nutritionist.. As long as they were losing weight and practicing what they preach.
I saw an Aqua Zumba class once where the teacher was bigger than me and just stood on the side of the pool directing the class rather than getting involved.
I also went to fat fighters where the leader had lost 8lbs to get to goal.. Hmm not much work required for that! She used to go on about enjoying celery as a snack! No-one could relate to her  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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Why don't you test it out online? I don't mean here but on the wider world. Set up a YouTube account and see what happens. Blog about your own journey and what you have learned along the way and how it has changed your life. Talk about your continuing development and how you are dealing with set backs and applying the lessons to your life.
If after 9 months everyone is telling you that they can't take you seriously because of your size then you will know not to make this your career, for now.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"thanks for all your comments. i think i am going to look into some courses for personal development and then see where it leads.
maybe start a blog as is the new craze lol"
I was just writing that, got distracted and didn't read on. Go for it.
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"You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success
Although this makes sense in theory, if the person hasn't reached a point where they have noticeably "come through" the other side it's just gonna appear farcical. Perhaps like the Little Britain sketch.
I see your point but for it to be someone still on their journey too they are walking beside you that appeals more to me. In a way it would be similar to the relationship and alcohol or drug addict has with their sponsors, their sponsors are reviving addicts theirselves so know how they feel at each stage of the journey "
The difference I see with that is that the addict has stopped taking drugs and worked through it, whereas a fat nutritionist still has a long journey. I think once they have reached a healthy weight then they can start giving advice - otherwise it's kinda cheeky to tell people how to sort themselves out when they can't even do it. |
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"You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success
Although this makes sense in theory, if the person hasn't reached a point where they have noticeably "come through" the other side it's just gonna appear farcical. Perhaps like the Little Britain sketch.
I see your point but for it to be someone still on their journey too they are walking beside you that appeals more to me. In a way it would be similar to the relationship and alcohol or drug addict has with their sponsors, their sponsors are reviving addicts theirselves so know how they feel at each stage of the journey
The difference I see with that is that the addict has stopped taking drugs and worked through it, whereas a fat nutritionist still has a long journey. I think once they have reached a healthy weight then they can start giving advice - otherwise it's kinda cheeky to tell people how to sort themselves out when they can't even do it. "
But if they are still on their journey they are doing it |
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"You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success
Although this makes sense in theory, if the person hasn't reached a point where they have noticeably "come through" the other side it's just gonna appear farcical. Perhaps like the Little Britain sketch.
I see your point but for it to be someone still on their journey too they are walking beside you that appeals more to me. In a way it would be similar to the relationship and alcohol or drug addict has with their sponsors, their sponsors are reviving addicts theirselves so know how they feel at each stage of the journey
The difference I see with that is that the addict has stopped taking drugs and worked through it, whereas a fat nutritionist still has a long journey. I think once they have reached a healthy weight then they can start giving advice - otherwise it's kinda cheeky to tell people how to sort themselves out when they can't even do it. "
I agree with that, also if your doing it side by side someone that is paying you and you fall off the wagon and they don't? Also and this bit comes from personal experience I feel as though I'm missing out on having someone to talk about the psychological affects of losing a lot of weight. |
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"You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success
Although this makes sense in theory, if the person hasn't reached a point where they have noticeably "come through" the other side it's just gonna appear farcical. Perhaps like the Little Britain sketch.
I see your point but for it to be someone still on their journey too they are walking beside you that appeals more to me. In a way it would be similar to the relationship and alcohol or drug addict has with their sponsors, their sponsors are reviving addicts theirselves so know how they feel at each stage of the journey
The difference I see with that is that the addict has stopped taking drugs and worked through it, whereas a fat nutritionist still has a long journey. I think once they have reached a healthy weight then they can start giving advice - otherwise it's kinda cheeky to tell people how to sort themselves out when they can't even do it.
But if they are still on their journey they are doing it"
Doing it doesn't always equate to completing it, though. To use the given example, I wouldn't listen to a heroin addict giving me advice on how to come off it - I would however pay attention to someone that has successfully come off it. |
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"You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success
Although this makes sense in theory, if the person hasn't reached a point where they have noticeably "come through" the other side it's just gonna appear farcical. Perhaps like the Little Britain sketch.
I see your point but for it to be someone still on their journey too they are walking beside you that appeals more to me. In a way it would be similar to the relationship and alcohol or drug addict has with their sponsors, their sponsors are reviving addicts theirselves so know how they feel at each stage of the journey
The difference I see with that is that the addict has stopped taking drugs and worked through it, whereas a fat nutritionist still has a long journey. I think once they have reached a healthy weight then they can start giving advice - otherwise it's kinda cheeky to tell people how to sort themselves out when they can't even do it. I agree with that, also if your doing it side by side someone that is paying you and you fall off the wagon and they don't? Also and this bit comes from personal experience I feel as though I'm missing out on having someone to talk about the psychological affects of losing a lot of weight."
 I hadn't thought of the issues the nutritionist may have themselves.
For me, I just see it as having a fat personal trainer who can't keep up with you, instead of inspiring and motivating you. |
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"You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success
Although this makes sense in theory, if the person hasn't reached a point where they have noticeably "come through" the other side it's just gonna appear farcical. Perhaps like the Little Britain sketch.
I see your point but for it to be someone still on their journey too they are walking beside you that appeals more to me. In a way it would be similar to the relationship and alcohol or drug addict has with their sponsors, their sponsors are reviving addicts theirselves so know how they feel at each stage of the journey
The difference I see with that is that the addict has stopped taking drugs and worked through it, whereas a fat nutritionist still has a long journey. I think once they have reached a healthy weight then they can start giving advice - otherwise it's kinda cheeky to tell people how to sort themselves out when they can't even do it.
But if they are still on their journey they are doing it
Doing it doesn't always equate to completing it, though. To use the given example, I wouldn't listen to a heroin addict giving me advice on how to come off it - I would however pay attention to someone that has successfully come off it. "
No I totally agree I just think it's a bit harsh to say somebody who has lost a lot of weight can't even sort themselves out just because they still have a way to go, that's all |
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"You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success
Although this makes sense in theory, if the person hasn't reached a point where they have noticeably "come through" the other side it's just gonna appear farcical. Perhaps like the Little Britain sketch.
I see your point but for it to be someone still on their journey too they are walking beside you that appeals more to me. In a way it would be similar to the relationship and alcohol or drug addict has with their sponsors, their sponsors are reviving addicts theirselves so know how they feel at each stage of the journey
The difference I see with that is that the addict has stopped taking drugs and worked through it, whereas a fat nutritionist still has a long journey. I think once they have reached a healthy weight then they can start giving advice - otherwise it's kinda cheeky to tell people how to sort themselves out when they can't even do it.
But if they are still on their journey they are doing it
Doing it doesn't always equate to completing it, though. To use the given example, I wouldn't listen to a heroin addict giving me advice on how to come off it - I would however pay attention to someone that has successfully come off it.
No I totally agree I just think it's a bit harsh to say somebody who has lost a lot of weight can't even sort themselves out just because they still have a way to go, that's all "
Perhaps the phrasing is off, and I didn't mean to be hurtful, but it's a matter of fact really. I can't see a fat nutritionist being truly successful. |
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"You sound like someone who knows the struggles of weight issues, I'd be more inclined to take advice and counsel from someone who has walked a mile in my shoes than someone who hasn't so I'd say uf you have a passion for it your on the right track for success
Although this makes sense in theory, if the person hasn't reached a point where they have noticeably "come through" the other side it's just gonna appear farcical. Perhaps like the Little Britain sketch.
I see your point but for it to be someone still on their journey too they are walking beside you that appeals more to me. In a way it would be similar to the relationship and alcohol or drug addict has with their sponsors, their sponsors are reviving addicts theirselves so know how they feel at each stage of the journey
The difference I see with that is that the addict has stopped taking drugs and worked through it, whereas a fat nutritionist still has a long journey. I think once they have reached a healthy weight then they can start giving advice - otherwise it's kinda cheeky to tell people how to sort themselves out when they can't even do it.
But if they are still on their journey they are doing it
Doing it doesn't always equate to completing it, though. To use the given example, I wouldn't listen to a heroin addict giving me advice on how to come off it - I would however pay attention to someone that has successfully come off it.
No I totally agree I just think it's a bit harsh to say somebody who has lost a lot of weight can't even sort themselves out just because they still have a way to go, that's all "
I wasn't referring to someone who had already lost loads of weight I was referring to someone starting out on their journey |
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Absolutely not. But then i have no need of one.
People can get all the nutrition they need from a moderate and reasonably varied diet. 5 a day fruit/veg ( aren't the NHS seeking to increase it) is easy to do, easy. There's loads of free advice around to boot. Exercise is often free too.
Nor is it as expensive as people would like to have you believe, especially when compared to the food fat people scoff.
It's a personal, self thing, and if you ain't got it with yourself to live by a suitable "diet" then don't rely on anyone else, fat or otherwise.
I'm guessing but one can buy a lot of fruit and veg for the price of one slimmers world (or similar) fatties weigh in. |
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