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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Will the party ever be elected to govern again?
yes..."
How so? The original labour movement was born out of the poverty of the masses. Is that still the case today? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yes (but maybe not at the next general election).
I quit the Labour Party in despair when Blair and Mandelson abandoned any pretense of socialism. "New" Labour was little more than "Thatcherism Lite" and needed to go. Ed Miliband was a lightweight leader and I don't see a potential leader with stature on the horizon. One day, things will change for the better (when they develop achievable policies on employment, industry and Europe).
All together now: "The people's flag is deepest red...." |
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"A first Labour government was elected by a landslide.
Will the party ever be elected to govern again?"
Yes.
Scotland has proved there is still a large appetite for true socialism. You can either win by persuading enough floating voters, or by waiting for disillusionment of swing-tory voters to set in, coupled with a poaching of sufficient far-right voters by ukip.
Certainly a lab-snp pact isn't too unlikely for the next result.
Mr ddc |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Of course. It's a brand, in a market with only 2 (possibly 3) other brands.
The brand is the only thing that keeps them together. there are no core values whatsoever- just the word 'Labour'.
Now is the time for young blood to join labour + ride the next wave. Join when it's fucked and your chances of senior office are higher. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Will the party ever be elected to govern again?
yes...How so? The original labour movement was born out of the poverty of the masses. Is that still the case today?
1997..?"
............was that the Labour Party? I thought it was Tory lite? |
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Will the party ever be elected to govern again?
yes...How so? The original labour movement was born out of the poverty of the masses. Is that still the case today?
1997..?............was that the Labour Party? I thought it was Tory lite?"
yes but they still got elected and will do so again, the electorate are a fickle bunch and when the Tories lose an election as is the case with the incumbent then Labour in whatever form it will be will be elected again.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Will the party ever be elected to govern again?
yes...How so? The original labour movement was born out of the poverty of the masses. Is that still the case today?
1997..?............was that the Labour Party? I thought it was Tory lite?
yes but they still got elected and will do so again, the electorate are a fickle bunch and when the Tories lose an election as is the case with the incumbent then Labour in whatever form it will be will be elected again.."
I am not so sure............ |
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Will the party ever be elected to govern again?
yes...How so? The original labour movement was born out of the poverty of the masses. Is that still the case today?
1997..?............was that the Labour Party? I thought it was Tory lite?
yes but they still got elected and will do so again, the electorate are a fickle bunch and when the Tories lose an election as is the case with the incumbent then Labour in whatever form it will be will be elected again..I am not so sure............"
they'll get back in before the Lib dems.. 
or ther Greens, UKIP etc.. |
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"Yes (but maybe not at the next general election).
I quit the Labour Party in despair when Blair and Mandelson abandoned any pretense of socialism. "New" Labour was little more than "Thatcherism Lite" and needed to go. Ed Miliband was a lightweight leader and I don't see a potential leader with stature on the horizon. One day, things will change for the better (when they develop achievable policies on employment, industry and Europe).
All together now: "The people's flag is deepest red....""
the new words sung by libor in Westminster now
the working class can kiss my ass I've got an MPs job at last |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Certainly a lab-snp pact isn't too unlikely for the next result.
Mr ddc"
Nicola would have to promise to kick Salmond's "inevitable" Referendum into the long grass for at least 100 years - assuming we can believe a word she says. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hopefully not... nice to see the leeches of society getting a rougher ride now "
Majority of the leeches are at the top bleeding this country and its people dry. Scrap the system and start again so that the interests of the people and not someone elses pocket are looked after if you ask me. |
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Certainly a lab-snp pact isn't too unlikely for the next result.
Mr ddc
Nicola would have to promise to kick Salmond's "inevitable" Referendum into the long grass for at least 100 years - assuming we can believe a word she says."
Not necessarily, what an english politician says when trying to win votes, isn't necessarily the same as what he will do when a few MPs short of a majority.
I suspect that like many of the European referenda, you will have to get used to answering the question regularly until you "get it right".
Fortunately I think the future of North Sea oil, rather than politics (or promises) will make the last referendum a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. |
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"Hopefully not... nice to see the leeches of society getting a rougher ride now "
Ahhh your one of those 
Total welfare bill for unemployment benefits : £3 billion
Total tax avoidance by Vodaphone in only the UK? £4 billion, Google? £6 billion across Europe, Costa Coffee? More than 2 billion and the list goes on.
Instead of you blaming the 'leeches' of society (I presume you mean chavs and poor people in general) why not blame the corporate leeches, Banks, financial institutions etc. It wasn't the poor who bankrupted the economy, it was the greedy banks. It's not the poor who don't pay their taxes should they be lucky enough to have a job, it's businesses.
As countlesss studies have shown, the most corrupt, greedy and criminal class are those who 'have', not the have nots.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A first Labour government was elected by a landslide.
Will the party ever be elected to govern again?"
Some of their traditional policies became outdated and, without adaptation, unsustainable. They have failed to create credible new ones which stay true to their principles.
I can't see any of the potential leader candidates reversing this. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Certainly a lab-snp pact isn't too unlikely for the next result.
Mr ddc
Nicola would have to promise to kick Salmond's "inevitable" Referendum into the long grass for at least 100 years - assuming we can believe a word she says.
Not necessarily, what an english politician says when trying to win votes, isn't necessarily the same as what he will do when a few MPs short of a majority.
I suspect that like many of the European referenda, you will have to get used to answering the question regularly until you "get it right".
Fortunately I think the future of North Sea oil, rather than politics (or promises) will make the last referendum a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity."
Without the hope of an eventual re-run of Sept 14th, the Nats have nothing to live for. It's their raison d'etre.
The rest is just fluff. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm sure that given time someone with leadership qualities will affiliate themselves to Labour .....
But right now they lack anyone with the personality or ability to lead an opposition party let alone govern the country....
Until the present crop of labour MPs fade into obscurity they will not recover lost ground...
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't agree Soxy. There's plenty of talent but, given we now seem to have a one strike and you're out policy, few are prepared to sacrifice themselves this time round."
Although I'm from the other side of the political divide to you Onny.... I do value a strong opposition which ever party is in office..... and I have no problem with the country being led by an effective labour government.....
Hwever I really don't see the makings of a talented team amongst the vocal ranks of the present labour party .
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