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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So starting from October England pays 5p per bag for the thin flimsy shopping bags from supermarkets
is this a good idea, saving the planet and all
nip into the Chinese for a carry out meal oh and 5p please for the carrier bag
I guess anything that helps save the planet, or does it go elsewhere  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The bags will need to be made a lot more substantial if i am to pay 5p for one !!"
nope, all the flimsy ones that burst when you put anything sharp in them will be 5p, the thicker heavier bags are of much higher cost
October isn't far away |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Been 5p in Wales and Scotland for some time now. I'd say peoples habits have changed and you will find that you have loads of 'bags for life' in the house and yes, you will attempt to go to the corner shop (having forgotten one of these bags) and return with a loaf of bread, a pint of milk, 4 croissants, a newspaper 2 onions and a carrot with NO bag as you will refuse to spend another 5p on a bag  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Too little too late as far as conservation goes
I order online with no carrier bags recycle compost etc......my Mum is a hippy so taught us well but like she said most people ignored all the warnings about killing the planet back in the sixties and now look where we are...... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So starting from October England pays 5p per bag for the thin flimsy shopping bags from supermarkets
is this a good idea, saving the planet and all
nip into the Chinese for a carry out meal oh and 5p please for the carrier bag
I guess anything that helps save the planet, or does it go elsewhere "
I think it's a great idea, Scotland and Wales do it. Why have we taken so long to do it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The bags will need to be made a lot more substantial if i am to pay 5p for one !!
nope, all the flimsy ones that burst when you put anything sharp in them will be 5p, the thicker heavier bags are of much higher cost
October isn't far away"
Well in that case i won't be buying any bags at all but will have my shopping delivered straight to my kitchen worktop bag free |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's a start but I'd rather have seen them banned completely or at least a pound a bag!
There the type of utter waste of energy that only free markets could dream up! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do believe it has made a substantial difference to buying habits. We have "bags for life" coming out our ears.
The 5p is meant to go to charity and our local takeaway donates the income to the SSPCA (equivalent to.RSPCA) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In the words of Karl pilkington. If carrier bags kill dolphins then ban them don't make it 5p . As I'm quite rich and I can afford to buy ten carrier bags . Therefore I can kill 10 dolphins easily . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'll just use the stash in my cupboard, that will see me through for a few years. After that bag for life."
I had to throw away most of my stash of bags because they'd bio degraded while in the cupboard |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So starting from October England pays 5p per bag for the thin flimsy shopping bags from supermarkets
is this a good idea, saving the planet and all
nip into the Chinese for a carry out meal oh and 5p please for the carrier bag
I guess anything that helps save the planet, or does it go elsewhere "
It's a great idea. What does get my overly tight arsed Scottishness is places like Burger King and Maccy Ds charging you for a paper bag for a meal that isn't packaged. Which if you look at the regs on the act itself, they shouldn't be doing. They'll be making a killing off it.
I pulled them up on it and when they knew they were beaten it was then 'down to interpretation.' I was told.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What's so difficult about using hessian, jute, cotton or hemp bags? Are we really do bone fucking idle that we can't be arsed taking a bag with us when we go to the shops.
We should use paper bags more often as a plastic replacement. They are usually made of virgin kraft fibres. The paper industry in this country is crying out for this stuff, as when it's fed into the recycling stream it boosts strengths enormously. Paper recycling has got so efficient that it's becoming too successful and the quality of waste paper is suffering. Use of paper bags would be a great help both ecologically AND in keeping an industry going. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In the words of Karl pilkington. If carrier bags kill dolphins then ban them don't make it 5p . As I'm quite rich and I can afford to buy ten carrier bags . Therefore I can kill 10 dolphins easily ."
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He's funny and quite accurate.
There's a patch of plastic garbage in the pacific ocean the size of Texas |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We already have this here.
It's annoying. However sometimes I lie at self serve about how many bags I have.. such a bad bad girl "
I'm shocked and applaud at this behavior young lady on the naughty step for you  |
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I have fold up shopping bags in my handbag but I've done that for a long time cause I like a bag I can stick on my shoulder.
I remember the days of the paper bags at the supermarket, clearly showing my age but they were adequate and less harmful to the planet.
We've been doing it ages in Scotland and most of the supermarkets have better bags for your 5p but I'm not sure it's a huge deterrent... 5p isn't exactly breaking the bank. If they were 50p people might think twice about not carrying/recycling their bags. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We already have this here.
It's annoying. However sometimes I lie at self serve about how many bags I have.. such a bad bad girl
I'm shocked and applaud at this behavior young lady on the naughty step for you "
I usually choose a big box
I need a big box for all my contents |
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When our local Sainsbury opened they gave out 'bags for life' free with your shopping. We got 9, but somehow are down to our last one. Even if I were a cat I'd be worried about what that means.
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"What's so difficult about using hessian, jute, cotton or hemp bags? Are we really do bone fucking idle that we can't be arsed taking a bag with us when we go to the shops.
We should use paper bags more often as a plastic replacement. They are usually made of virgin kraft fibres. The paper industry in this country is crying out for this stuff, as when it's fed into the recycling stream it boosts strengths enormously. Paper recycling has got so efficient that it's becoming too successful and the quality of waste paper is suffering. Use of paper bags would be a great help both ecologically AND in keeping an industry going."
You would think paper would be a good idea. Apparently not by the time you consider its carbon footprint and over factors its actually worse over all for the planet, apparently. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I carry a fold up bag when I go out. When shopping is planned I take my canvass bags, all given free at various events to encourage me to spend money at those events. The oldest one is now 10 years old and still going strong. I get the flimsy bags when I buy on the spur of the moment and my one folding bag isn't enough and these are useful as bin liners. Clothes and gift shopping account for the other bags.
If it changes behaviour then that's a positive step. It's a bit too little too late but the change in behaviour may prompt other changes.
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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I get most of my groceries delivered. The delivery guys tell me the supermarkets have had to buy more of the big plastic trays to get stuff from the van to the customer's door. I dunno how environmentally sound getting a van to come to you is compared to bringing your grub etc home on the bus.
As well as deliveries I carry an avoska (a perhaps bag), just in case I stumble across a bargain. Even senior Soviet officers still do this, depending on where they are. |
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"If you've purchased a bag for life and it's wears out, would you feel cheated or worried? "
I could say 'my old bag's a bit worn at the edges', but you'll have to wait until I hide the rolling pin, and frying pan, and......
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you've purchased a bag for life and it's wears out, would you feel cheated or worried?
I could say 'my old bag's a bit worn at the edges', but you'll have to wait until I hide the rolling pin, and frying pan, and......
Mr ddc"
Don't say it.
Don't think it.
And for gods sake don't write it on an Internet forum.
Oh, ah, er......... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What's so difficult about using hessian, jute, cotton or hemp bags? Are we really do bone fucking idle that we can't be arsed taking a bag with us when we go to the shops.
We should use paper bags more often as a plastic replacement. They are usually made of virgin kraft fibres. The paper industry in this country is crying out for this stuff, as when it's fed into the recycling stream it boosts strengths enormously. Paper recycling has got so efficient that it's becoming too successful and the quality of waste paper is suffering. Use of paper bags would be a great help both ecologically AND in keeping an industry going.
You would think paper would be a good idea. Apparently not by the time you consider its carbon footprint and over factors its actually worse over all for the planet, apparently."
But paper bags get recycled as opposed to plastic ones. Plastic ones use oil as its raw ingredient. They don't degrade, and they are a danger to wildlife.
Use "bags for life" for your shopping, and paper bags for the small stuff. Paper is made from managed forests, that actually grow more than they cut down!
Make the plastic bag charge £1 and they will disappear overnight. |
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Make the plastic bag charge £1 and they will disappear overnight."
Thats what I have been saying since day one of the charge. Multiply it by x10, make it 50p a bag, people like me will soon become less lazy.
Mac'd charge 5p a bag aswell down here for one of their brown paper ones |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Make the plastic bag charge £1 and they will disappear overnight.
Thats what I have been saying since day one of the charge. Multiply it by x10, make it 50p a bag, people like me will soon become less lazy.
Mac'd charge 5p a bag aswell down here for one of their brown paper ones"
the thing is when this law was thought up the bags were only photodegradeable meaning they needed sunlight/uv light to break down so they stayed intact forever in landfill which was the problem.
now though they're all biodegradeable (can be broken down by bacteria) (they changed the plastic) so the reasoning behind the law is now no longer relevant as they degrade ina landfill just as happily as old potato skins. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What's so difficult about using hessian, jute, cotton or hemp bags? Are we really do bone fucking idle that we can't be arsed taking a bag with us when we go to the shops.
We should use paper bags more often as a plastic replacement. They are usually made of virgin kraft fibres. The paper industry in this country is crying out for this stuff, as when it's fed into the recycling stream it boosts strengths enormously. Paper recycling has got so efficient that it's becoming too successful and the quality of waste paper is suffering. Use of paper bags would be a great help both ecologically AND in keeping an industry going.
You would think paper would be a good idea. Apparently not by the time you consider its carbon footprint and over factors its actually worse over all for the planet, apparently.
But paper bags get recycled as opposed to plastic ones. Plastic ones use oil as its raw ingredient. They don't degrade, and they are a danger to wildlife.
Use "bags for life" for your shopping, and paper bags for the small stuff. Paper is made from managed forests, that actually grow more than they cut down!
Make the plastic bag charge £1 and they will disappear overnight."
Of course "managed" forests utterly destroy the environment as it was before someone scraped it clean and planted thousands of crap pine trees. absolutely ruining the area for wild life and everything native.
walk through a traditional British primary forest, then walk through a managed forest you'll be shocked how utterly empty and silent the managed forest is. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Make the plastic bag charge £1 and they will disappear overnight.
Thats what I have been saying since day one of the charge. Multiply it by x10, make it 50p a bag, people like me will soon become less lazy.
Mac'd charge 5p a bag aswell down here for one of their brown paper ones
the thing is when this law was thought up the bags were only photodegradeable meaning they needed sunlight/uv light to break down so they stayed intact forever in landfill which was the problem.
now though they're all biodegradeable (can be broken down by bacteria) (they changed the plastic) so the reasoning behind the law is now no longer relevant as they degrade ina landfill just as happily as old potato skins."
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You still have to put shit loads of energy into making and disposing of them!.
You wanna save the world buy a Rolex |
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Bags will make a small difference, but its good to get everyone into the mindset of protecting our planet and resources. Global warming is reality and massive changes are needed.
Tesco still giving points for bag reuse, Sainsbury is not, so I avoid it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I collect used one from 20 of my clients premises on a weekly basis.
I give a black bin liner full each week to local basics bank .
When the new changes come in , the basics bank will lose this free source of carrier bags , as people will move to bags for life . |
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shop where I worked, we reused all the bags that the stock came in from the suppliers. there is no charge for recycled bags and although they didn't look quiet as cosmetically smart, and no handles, most of the customers where more than happy to accept one. |
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By *lovisMan
over a year ago
Twickenham |
"I'll just use the stash in my cupboard, that will see me through for a few years. After that bag for life."
I've been stockpiling for years too. I reckon I will run out before the plastic bag stash does. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What's so difficult about using hessian, jute, cotton or hemp bags? Are we really do bone fucking idle that we can't be arsed taking a bag with us when we go to the shops.
We should use paper bags more often as a plastic replacement. They are usually made of virgin kraft fibres. The paper industry in this country is crying out for this stuff, as when it's fed into the recycling stream it boosts strengths enormously. Paper recycling has got so efficient that it's becoming too successful and the quality of waste paper is suffering. Use of paper bags would be a great help both ecologically AND in keeping an industry going.
You would think paper would be a good idea. Apparently not by the time you consider its carbon footprint and over factors its actually worse over all for the planet, apparently.
But paper bags get recycled as opposed to plastic ones. Plastic ones use oil as its raw ingredient. They don't degrade, and they are a danger to wildlife.
Use "bags for life" for your shopping, and paper bags for the small stuff. Paper is made from managed forests, that actually grow more than they cut down!
Make the plastic bag charge £1 and they will disappear overnight.
Of course "managed" forests utterly destroy the environment as it was before someone scraped it clean and planted thousands of crap pine trees. absolutely ruining the area for wild life and everything native.
walk through a traditional British primary forest, then walk through a managed forest you'll be shocked how utterly empty and silent the managed forest is."
Managed forests in the pulp and paper industry are in Scandinavia and the states, not the UK. The pine grown over here is not for felling. It's grown for tax reasons. Ask Terry Wogan. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So starting from October England pays 5p per bag for the thin flimsy shopping bags from supermarkets
is this a good idea, saving the planet and all
nip into the Chinese for a carry out meal oh and 5p please for the carrier bag
I guess anything that helps save the planet, or does it go elsewhere "
Only counts in large shops like supermarkets |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Make the plastic bag charge £1 and they will disappear overnight.
Thats what I have been saying since day one of the charge. Multiply it by x10, make it 50p a bag, people like me will soon become less lazy.
Mac'd charge 5p a bag aswell down here for one of their brown paper ones
the thing is when this law was thought up the bags were only photodegradeable meaning they needed sunlight/uv light to break down so they stayed intact forever in landfill which was the problem.
now though they're all biodegradeable (can be broken down by bacteria) (they changed the plastic) so the reasoning behind the law is now no longer relevant as they degrade ina landfill just as happily as old potato skins."
The biodegradability of the bags now, is still not good enough. We are dumping them faster than they can rot. The plastic bags used for food scraps are starch based polymer, they degrade readily, but have no real strength. Make them thicker and your onto a winner, but they will still cost more than 5p. I think that's a sensible way forward. |
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We went to Scotland a few weeks ago and thought at first it was something to do with charity as we only went in independent gift shop places and the all where putting the 5p in a tin.
I can't see the problem in paying, people will spend a fortune on shopping and begrudge the pennies for a bag.
I'm sure aldi or somewhere have always charged for bags |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So starting from October England pays 5p per bag for the thin flimsy shopping bags from supermarkets
is this a good idea, saving the planet and all
nip into the Chinese for a carry out meal oh and 5p please for the carrier bag
I guess anything that helps save the planet, or does it go elsewhere
Only counts in large shops like supermarkets "
I am sure by the time October comes around England will follow Scotland and it will be every bag in every shop |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Been 5p in Wales and Scotland for some time now. I'd say peoples habits have changed and you will find that you have loads of 'bags for life' in the house and yes, you will attempt to go to the corner shop (having forgotten one of these bags) and return with a loaf of bread, a pint of milk, 4 croissants, a newspaper 2 onions and a carrot with NO bag as you will refuse to spend another 5p on a bag "
I head back home, loaf under one arm, newspaper under the other, pint of milk in one pocket, croissants in the other pocket. The 2 onions and carrot will have to go in my trousers. Why are those people at the bus stop staring at me? |
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By *andom2chatMan
over a year ago
A Galaxy Far, Far Away & Spain |
Before the 5p charge came in I purchased 3 x small, foldaway trolley carts. I always keep 1 in the car & I've totally changed my shopping habits. I only buy what I need as I need it & don't fall for the BOGOFFs which usually resulted in throwing food away. I also keep a couple of foldup jute type bags or a Bag For Life in the car too so if it's only a couple of items I need I take that instead of the trolley.
It's just s matter of changing my habits, just as I changed them to not taking a bag when flimsy single use bags were free. You get used to being prepared for these things rather than be lazy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How is the stuff you order online delivered if not in bags? Is the cost of the bags just added to the food shop?"
They bring it in crates now, I get my order delivered |
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By *ildt123Man
over a year ago
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Bah none sense!
Nothing to do with saving the planet, it's stealth tax and profiteering. I get some carrier bags with my shopping and use them as bin liners, if I don't get carrier bags I have to by plastic bin liners! No difference. If it was about conservation they would make bio- degradeable bags and give them out for free. This way I have to buy a bag for life, and buy plastic bin liners how is the planet saved?
As for the carbon emissions and targets etc you do know they trade greenhouse gas limits on the market as a commodity so if we save X-number of tons of carbon emissions in any year they sell what we don't use from our quota to another country, India or China for e.g so they don't get fined or break the agreement. Still no planet has been saved! Lots of the green agenda stuff has been hijacked |
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So while you're paying 5p for a miniscule amount of plastic in a flimsy bag, everything inside your bag is wrapped in plastic trays covered in clingfilm, shrinkwrap that can't be cut without surgical instruments and other non-biodegradeable materials. Banning supermarket packaging might be a better start. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you purchase a bag for life
which can cost up to 12p,If it gets ripped you get it replaced FREE from the supermarket you purchased it from "
Oop's...... I thought if a bag for life broke you died,,,,  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"How is the stuff you order online delivered if not in bags? Is the cost of the bags just added to the food shop?
They bring it in crates now, I get my order delivered "
Or they bring it up in something like an Ikea bag and take the bag away afterwards. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you purchase a bag for life
which can cost up to 12p,If it gets ripped you get it replaced FREE from the supermarket you purchased it from
Oop's...... I thought if a bag for life broke you died,,,, "
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