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"Not sure the hooray Henry's would be in that particular neighbourhood with their hounds Keeping fox numbers down humanely is fine just can't stand the hunt lot charging about torturing the poor buggers for hours first arrogant tossers!" Quite right. Understand the need (hey, I had chickens), but chasing the beggars until they are shaking in fear is another matter. I really have no idea why that pursuit should bring great joy to people. | |||
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"Not sure the hooray Henry's would be in that particular neighbourhood with their hounds Keeping fox numbers down humanely is fine just can't stand the hunt lot charging about torturing the poor buggers for hours first arrogant tossers!" | |||
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"I am against cruelty and torture of animals or humans - I just see this talk of reintroducing something so barbaric to be dreadful. Hints at tory priorities, and which people they're really behind. " 100% | |||
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"Exaggerated stories, like when whalers used to speak of Whales attacking ships to justify their profession and make themselves seem brave, we all know Whales are peaceful animals now." In fairness whales have capsised ships, just not on purpose... | |||
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"It's actually "Hunting with dogs" not a fox hunting ban. Most of the people collared have been poacher types using lurchers not the horse riding mindless Muppet's in red. I was brought up very near to a hunt and found dead hounds that had been lamed then shot on a regular basis. These people are not animal lovers or respect nature they are at worst sadistic bloodthirsty maniacs and best mindless socialite tossers. Hunting to control and protect or even put meat on the table is fine by me if it's humane and has a reason. Killing something for sport however is sadistic,warped and less than a human being should be. " | |||
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"mr and mrs fox killed 26 of my chickens and did not eat one just killed.....I GOT MY GUN AND SHOT MR AND MRS FOX ...JOB DONE..." Quite right. You did not chase them round a field with a pack of dogs salivating and tearing at their flesh. | |||
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"Not sure the hooray Henry's would be in that particular neighbourhood with their hounds Keeping fox numbers down humanely is fine just can't stand the hunt lot charging about torturing the poor buggers for hours first arrogant tossers!" I used to very opposed to fox hunting but now I've grown up and seen the wider issues. Foxes are a pest and need a natural predator to keep their numbers down. There isn't one so one has to be found. Shooting/poisons aren't humane and kill healthy animals whereas hunting..... If the animal is healthy and fit, it escapes. If it isn't, it dies. Numbers are reduced and nature takes it's course. Back to natural selection, the strong survive and the weak die. And numbers are kept under control. Foxes are a pest in the country and are now so in urban areas. There is nothing to stop them spreading so a solution has to be found. | |||
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"Not sure the hooray Henry's would be in that particular neighbourhood with their hounds Keeping fox numbers down humanely is fine just can't stand the hunt lot charging about torturing the poor buggers for hours first arrogant tossers! I used to very opposed to fox hunting but now I've grown up and seen the wider issues. Foxes are a pest and need a natural predator to keep their numbers down. There isn't one so one has to be found. Shooting/poisons aren't humane and kill healthy animals whereas hunting..... If the animal is healthy and fit, it escapes. If it isn't, it dies. Numbers are reduced and nature takes it's course. Back to natural selection, the strong survive and the weak die. And numbers are kept under control. Foxes are a pest in the country and are now so in urban areas. There is nothing to stop them spreading so a solution has to be found. " How is the weather over there in lala land? There is NO excuse to hunt for sport. If any animal needs killing for 'pest' control then do so humanely. Of course, you could try running a mile or three in the foxes shoes whilst a pack of hounds chases you intent on ripping you apart. Then come back and talk about survival of the fittest. | |||
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"if you townies saw what a fox does in a hen run you might think different " Have done. And nope. Still civilised here. | |||
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"Studying an animals behaviour is helpful, there is a bloke on our allotments who hasn`t lost a single chicken, because he took the necessary precautions, if you kill a fox, another is waiting to move into it`s territory, so it never ends, and they don`t just kill all the chickens, they come back for the rest to bury them for when times are hard, but they usually get disturbed and so flee the scene, leaving people to think they killed them for nothing. Protect livestock better, there are ways of doing it without having to kill, but sadly people like to kill animals and will look for excuses." And as has already been seen, they seem to think that because they live in the country they know better than us 'townies'. Same old tired excuses. | |||
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"Not sure the hooray Henry's would be in that particular neighbourhood with their hounds Keeping fox numbers down humanely is fine just can't stand the hunt lot charging about torturing the poor buggers for hours first arrogant tossers! I used to very opposed to fox hunting but now I've grown up and seen the wider issues. Foxes are a pest and need a natural predator to keep their numbers down. There isn't one so one has to be found. Shooting/poisons aren't humane and kill healthy animals whereas hunting..... If the animal is healthy and fit, it escapes. If it isn't, it dies. Numbers are reduced and nature takes it's course. Back to natural selection, the strong survive and the weak die. And numbers are kept under control. Foxes are a pest in the country and are now so in urban areas. There is nothing to stop them spreading so a solution has to be found. How is the weather over there in lala land? There is NO excuse to hunt for sport. If any animal needs killing for 'pest' control then do so humanely. Of course, you could try running a mile or three in the foxes shoes whilst a pack of hounds chases you intent on ripping you apart. Then come back and talk about survival of the fittest." Typical towny response. Do you know that the fox is killed very quickly by the pack. Shooting a fox is not guaranteed to kill it and it may run off injured to die slowly. Calling the people who go on hunts, Hooray Henrys also shows your ignorance. I have friends who ride on hunts and they're just normal people. The horses get a good exercise, the dogs too. Oh and I hope you don't drive because more foxes get killed by cars then any hunt could ever do. | |||
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"Studying an animals behaviour is helpful, there is a bloke on our allotments who hasn`t lost a single chicken, because he took the necessary precautions, if you kill a fox, another is waiting to move into it`s territory, so it never ends, and they don`t just kill all the chickens, they come back for the rest to bury them for when times are hard, but they usually get disturbed and so flee the scene, leaving people to think they killed them for nothing. Protect livestock better, there are ways of doing it without having to kill, but sadly people like to kill animals and will look for excuses. And as has already been seen, they seem to think that because they live in the country they know better than us 'townies'. Same old tired excuses." I know mate, they are just spiteful people. | |||
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"Studying an animals behaviour is helpful, there is a bloke on our allotments who hasn`t lost a single chicken, because he took the necessary precautions, if you kill a fox, another is waiting to move into it`s territory, so it never ends, and they don`t just kill all the chickens, they come back for the rest to bury them for when times are hard, but they usually get disturbed and so flee the scene, leaving people to think they killed them for nothing. Protect livestock better, there are ways of doing it without having to kill, but sadly people like to kill animals and will look for excuses. And as has already been seen, they seem to think that because they live in the country they know better than us 'townies'. Same old tired excuses." exactly and all those who kill animals for fun must have psychotic tendencies and i hope they all rot in hell and will pray that karma knows where these scum reside the useless tossers | |||
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"Studying an animals behaviour is helpful, there is a bloke on our allotments who hasn`t lost a single chicken, because he took the necessary precautions, if you kill a fox, another is waiting to move into it`s territory, so it never ends, and they don`t just kill all the chickens, they come back for the rest to bury them for when times are hard, but they usually get disturbed and so flee the scene, leaving people to think they killed them for nothing. Protect livestock better, there are ways of doing it without having to kill, but sadly people like to kill animals and will look for excuses. And as has already been seen, they seem to think that because they live in the country they know better than us 'townies'. Same old tired excuses.exactly and all those who kill animals for fun must have psychotic tendencies and i hope they all rot in hell and will pray that karma knows where these scum reside the useless tossers " I wonder how far these people who kill animals for fun would go if they were allowed, it`s the seed in them to kill that concerns me as much as what they are killing, | |||
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"ban fox hunting and let the wee hens live to the grand old age of 104 ...well actually probably wont see a year until a human comes along slits its throat plucks its feather and eats it wow thats the life for a hen people talk as thou chickens and hens are wee pets their not their your dinner your no better than a wee mad fox " I enjoyed reading that mate, nice one | |||
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"Interestingly if you do a risk assessment of people in relation to their propensity for violence to others one of the significant historical factors that increase risk is killing and torturing animals, maybe the authorities should keep an eye on the hunting types " i always view people like this if they are animal lovers most of the time they are good people but the violent poor excuses for humans that like to kill torment animals for their own sadistic pleasure tend to be people you don't want to know in my experience | |||
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"ban fox hunting and let the wee hens live to the grand old age of 104 ...well actually probably wont see a year until a human comes along slits its throat plucks its feather and eats it wow thats the life for a hen people talk as thou chickens and hens are wee pets their not their your dinner your no better than a wee mad fox " Strange. My chickens were my pets. I did not take them on to run a slaughter house. Just for the pleasure of their interaction. Call me bad. | |||
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"ban fox hunting and let the wee hens live to the grand old age of 104 ...well actually probably wont see a year until a human comes along slits its throat plucks its feather and eats it wow thats the life for a hen people talk as thou chickens and hens are wee pets their not their your dinner your no better than a wee mad fox Strange. My chickens were my pets. I did not take them on to run a slaughter house. Just for the pleasure of their interaction. Call me bad." so where did all the feathers in your kitchen come from ? | |||
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"It's actually "Hunting with dogs" not a fox hunting ban. Most of the people collared have been poacher types using lurchers not the horse riding mindless Muppet's in red. I was brought up very near to a hunt and found dead hounds that had been lamed then shot on a regular basis. These people are not animal lovers or respect nature they are at worst sadistic bloodthirsty maniacs and best mindless socialite tossers. Hunting to control and protect or even put meat on the table is fine by me if it's humane and has a reason. Killing something for sport however is sadistic,warped and less than a human being should be. " Spot on It's not just the fox which suffers needlessly, but the dogs too. We have a dachshund and the thought of him being used just to kill another animal makes my skin crawl - like you say there are hounds which are injured in the process Hunting rabbits to eat them I have no issue with. Hunting rabbits, foxes, squire etc as a means of pest control I have no issue with. Hunting for sport and enjoyment I have an issue with | |||
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"Sorry but if they ban fox hunting they should ban dog & horse races as animals get hurt unnecessarily for sport in these too.. " Personally I think any 'sport' that uses animals for our amusement should be banned and that includes fishing | |||
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"Sorry but if they ban fox hunting they should ban dog & horse races as animals get hurt unnecessarily for sport in these too.. Personally I think any 'sport' that uses animals for our amusement should be banned and that includes fishing " Definitely.. i forgot about fishing | |||
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"The total number of animals killed in British slaughterhouses in 2013 was over a billion. This included 9.8 million pigs, nearly 15 million sheep, 18 million turkeys, 14 million ducks, over 945 million chickens and 2.6 million cattle. Add to that 4.5 billion fish and 2.6 billion shellfish you have a total of over 8 billion animals killed in the UK each year. This equates to around 22 million animals slaughtered every day; 919,000 an hour; 15,000 per minute and 255 every second. and we grudge a fox a couple of chickens now and then ? if i was a fox id be banging on the farmers door saying geez a chicken ya gready bastard and ill be having a sheep aswell " That's just humans all over for you arrogant we are will kill for food and cloths, hunt wild animals to the brink of extinction for sale on the black market, chop down their homes, use them for entertainment, experiment on them but if one fox kills a chicken they are vermin and need to be killed | |||
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"The total number of animals killed in British slaughterhouses in 2013 was over a billion. This included 9.8 million pigs, nearly 15 million sheep, 18 million turkeys, 14 million ducks, over 945 million chickens and 2.6 million cattle. Add to that 4.5 billion fish and 2.6 billion shellfish you have a total of over 8 billion animals killed in the UK each year. This equates to around 22 million animals slaughtered every day; 919,000 an hour; 15,000 per minute and 255 every second. and we grudge a fox a couple of chickens now and then ? if i was a fox id be banging on the farmers door saying geez a chicken ya gready bastard and ill be having a sheep aswell That's just humans all over for you arrogant we are will kill for food and cloths, hunt wild animals to the brink of extinction for sale on the black market, chop down their homes, use them for entertainment, experiment on them but if one fox kills a chicken they are vermin and need to be killed " | |||
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"The total number of animals killed in British slaughterhouses in 2013 was over a billion. This included 9.8 million pigs, nearly 15 million sheep, 18 million turkeys, 14 million ducks, over 945 million chickens and 2.6 million cattle. Add to that 4.5 billion fish and 2.6 billion shellfish you have a total of over 8 billion animals killed in the UK each year. This equates to around 22 million animals slaughtered every day; 919,000 an hour; 15,000 per minute and 255 every second. and we grudge a fox a couple of chickens now and then ? if i was a fox id be banging on the farmers door saying geez a chicken ya gready bastard and ill be having a sheep aswell That's just humans all over for you arrogant we are will kill for food and cloths, hunt wild animals to the brink of extinction for sale on the black market, chop down their homes, use them for entertainment, experiment on them but if one fox kills a chicken they are vermin and need to be killed " another 4 thumbs from me | |||
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"Was my dream as a boy to be the Master off the Hunt on Boxing day in our Village seeing the hounds and Horses set off will always stick in my mind a glass of port or sherry before the chase TALLY O AFTER THE BASTARD " well a shame you didn't have more ambitious and more humane dreams then | |||
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"Not sure the hooray Henry's would be in that particular neighbourhood with their hounds Keeping fox numbers down humanely is fine just can't stand the hunt lot charging about torturing the poor buggers for hours first arrogant tossers! I used to very opposed to fox hunting but now I've grown up and seen the wider issues. Foxes are a pest and need a natural predator to keep their numbers down. There isn't one so one has to be found. Shooting/poisons aren't humane and kill healthy animals whereas hunting..... If the animal is healthy and fit, it escapes. If it isn't, it dies. Numbers are reduced and nature takes it's course. Back to natural selection, the strong survive and the weak die. And numbers are kept under control. Foxes are a pest in the country and are now so in urban areas. There is nothing to stop them spreading so a solution has to be found. " the solution is not treating it as a sport, the pomposity and spectacle of the event is no less as disgusting as safari hunting in my opinion. | |||
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"Just saying there's talk about re-wilding the UK, which may mean reintroduction of wolves and bears. It might be more than a few chickens getting et if that's the case. " am surprised females are against the reintroduction of bears any one i know has got a room with shelfs full of them | |||
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"Just saying there's talk about re-wilding the UK, which may mean reintroduction of wolves and bears. It might be more than a few chickens getting et if that's the case. " are you promoting the bear back!? | |||
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"Not sure the hooray Henry's would be in that particular neighbourhood with their hounds Keeping fox numbers down humanely is fine just can't stand the hunt lot charging about torturing the poor buggers for hours first arrogant tossers! I used to very opposed to fox hunting but now I've grown up and seen the wider issues. Foxes are a pest and need a natural predator to keep their numbers down. There isn't one so one has to be found. Shooting/poisons aren't humane and kill healthy animals whereas hunting..... If the animal is healthy and fit, it escapes. If it isn't, it dies. Numbers are reduced and nature takes it's course. Back to natural selection, the strong survive and the weak die. And numbers are kept under control. Foxes are a pest in the country and are now so in urban areas. There is nothing to stop them spreading so a solution has to be found. How is the weather over there in lala land? There is NO excuse to hunt for sport. If any animal needs killing for 'pest' control then do so humanely. Of course, you could try running a mile or three in the foxes shoes whilst a pack of hounds chases you intent on ripping you apart. Then come back and talk about survival of the fittest. Typical towny response. Do you know that the fox is killed very quickly by the pack. Shooting a fox is not guaranteed to kill it and it may run off injured to die slowly. Calling the people who go on hunts, Hooray Henrys also shows your ignorance. I have friends who ride on hunts and they're just normal people. The horses get a good exercise, the dogs too. Oh and I hope you don't drive because more foxes get killed by cars then any hunt could ever do. " That last point, about the cars - just ultimately proves how ineffective hunting foxes is, that more foxes die by accident. Also puts into perspective the 'huge pest' that they are, considering how few you see these days dead or alive. Why do people hate animals, either all or a specific species? Also, normal people don't own a pack of dogs and horses. That's a right minority there, most dog owners actually care about their dogs as companions and pets. Fox hunters are exceptionally abnormal, gloating over extreme cruelty. | |||
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"Just saying there's talk about re-wilding the UK, which may mean reintroduction of wolves and bears. It might be more than a few chickens getting et if that's the case. am surprised females are against the reintroduction of bears any one i know has got a room with shelfs full of them " I'm bang along side re-wilding. It would make rambling much more exciting. | |||
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"Not sure the hooray Henry's would be in that particular neighbourhood with their hounds Keeping fox numbers down humanely is fine just can't stand the hunt lot charging about torturing the poor buggers for hours first arrogant tossers! I used to very opposed to fox hunting but now I've grown up and seen the wider issues. Foxes are a pest and need a natural predator to keep their numbers down. There isn't one so one has to be found. Shooting/poisons aren't humane and kill healthy animals whereas hunting..... If the animal is healthy and fit, it escapes. If it isn't, it dies. Numbers are reduced and nature takes it's course. Back to natural selection, the strong survive and the weak die. And numbers are kept under control. Foxes are a pest in the country and are now so in urban areas. There is nothing to stop them spreading so a solution has to be found. How is the weather over there in lala land? There is NO excuse to hunt for sport. If any animal needs killing for 'pest' control then do so humanely. Of course, you could try running a mile or three in the foxes shoes whilst a pack of hounds chases you intent on ripping you apart. Then come back and talk about survival of the fittest. Typical towny response. Do you know that the fox is killed very quickly by the pack. Shooting a fox is not guaranteed to kill it and it may run off injured to die slowly. Calling the people who go on hunts, Hooray Henrys also shows your ignorance. I have friends who ride on hunts and they're just normal people. The horses get a good exercise, the dogs too. Oh and I hope you don't drive because more foxes get killed by cars then any hunt could ever do. That last point, about the cars - just ultimately proves how ineffective hunting foxes is, that more foxes die by accident. Also puts into perspective the 'huge pest' that they are, considering how few you see these days dead or alive. Why do people hate animals, either all or a specific species? Also, normal people don't own a pack of dogs and horses. That's a right minority there, most dog owners actually care about their dogs as companions and pets. Fox hunters are exceptionally abnormal, gloating over extreme cruelty. " Also the notion that the dogs are trained to kill the fix humanely is a fallacy. More often than not the fox is disemboweled. Even if the death were quick the chase through miles and miles of countryside is hardly humane. | |||
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"Just saying there's talk about re-wilding the UK, which may mean reintroduction of wolves and bears. It might be more than a few chickens getting et if that's the case. am surprised females are against the reintroduction of bears any one i know has got a room with shelfs full of them I'm bang along side re-wilding. It would make rambling much more exciting. " Sabre tooth Tigers used to roam these shores. Make a trip down the park interesting. | |||
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" That last point, about the cars - just ultimately proves how ineffective hunting foxes is, that more foxes die by accident. Also puts into perspective the 'huge pest' that they are, considering how few you see these days dead or alive. Why do people hate animals, either all or a specific species? Also, normal people don't own a pack of dogs and horses. That's a right minority there, most dog owners actually care about their dogs as companions and pets. Fox hunters are exceptionally abnormal, gloating over extreme cruelty. " You're showing your ignorance. The dogs are kept as a business and have blood lines going back hundreds of years in some cases. Normal people don't own horses? Are you kidding me? People from all walks of life own horses. It's also very presumptuous to think that because they hunt they don't care for animals. The fox has a chance and often escapes or goes to ground. And you clearly don't get out into the country much. Road kill is all over the place. | |||
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"Just saying there's talk about re-wilding the UK, which may mean reintroduction of wolves and bears. It might be more than a few chickens getting et if that's the case. am surprised females are against the reintroduction of bears any one i know has got a room with shelfs full of them I'm bang along side re-wilding. It would make rambling much more exciting. Sabre tooth Tigers used to roam these shores. Make a trip down the park interesting. " That would be awesome! And mammoth!! | |||
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"if you townies saw what a fox does in a hen run you might think different " | |||
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"if you townies saw what a fox does in a hen run you might think different " I'm guessing the fox lowers the hen population much more efficiently than a hunting party ever could. | |||
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" That last point, about the cars - just ultimately proves how ineffective hunting foxes is, that more foxes die by accident. Also puts into perspective the 'huge pest' that they are, considering how few you see these days dead or alive. Why do people hate animals, either all or a specific species? Also, normal people don't own a pack of dogs and horses. That's a right minority there, most dog owners actually care about their dogs as companions and pets. Fox hunters are exceptionally abnormal, gloating over extreme cruelty. You're showing your ignorance. The dogs are kept as a business and have blood lines going back hundreds of years in some cases. Normal people don't own horses? Are you kidding me? People from all walks of life own horses. It's also very presumptuous to think that because they hunt they don't care for animals. The fox has a chance and often escapes or goes to ground. And you clearly don't get out into the country much. Road kill is all over the place. " yeah keep telling yourself that what a load of crap that is let me go and find a needle so i can sew my side up where it has split from laughing | |||
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" That last point, about the cars - just ultimately proves how ineffective hunting foxes is, that more foxes die by accident. Also puts into perspective the 'huge pest' that they are, considering how few you see these days dead or alive. Why do people hate animals, either all or a specific species? Also, normal people don't own a pack of dogs and horses. That's a right minority there, most dog owners actually care about their dogs as companions and pets. Fox hunters are exceptionally abnormal, gloating over extreme cruelty. You're showing your ignorance. The dogs are kept as a business and have blood lines going back hundreds of years in some cases. Normal people don't own horses? Are you kidding me? People from all walks of life own horses. It's also very presumptuous to think that because they hunt they don't care for animals. The fox has a chance and often escapes or goes to ground. And you clearly don't get out into the country much. Road kill is all over the place. yeah keep telling yourself that what a load of crap that is let me go and find a needle so i can sew my side up where it has split from laughing" and i'm being very presumptuous by saying those who kill just for pleasure are fly blown filth of humanity | |||
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"if you townies saw what a fox does in a hen run you might think different " trying to think.... how about thinking differently on a perceived proud british pastime, that isnt that far away from bull fighting..where an animal can be killed or culled without it being made some sort of spectacle... its amazing that people slag off other countries less compassionate animal welfare(wild or captive)..terming them as barbaric...yet people still defend fox hunting in the style that its done as a great british tradition. its a simple job, go kill the fox..effectively. | |||
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" That last point, about the cars - just ultimately proves how ineffective hunting foxes is, that more foxes die by accident. Also puts into perspective the 'huge pest' that they are, considering how few you see these days dead or alive. Why do people hate animals, either all or a specific species? Also, normal people don't own a pack of dogs and horses. That's a right minority there, most dog owners actually care about their dogs as companions and pets. Fox hunters are exceptionally abnormal, gloating over extreme cruelty. You're showing your ignorance. The dogs are kept as a business and have blood lines going back hundreds of years in some cases. Normal people don't own horses? Are you kidding me? People from all walks of life own horses. It's also very presumptuous to think that because they hunt they don't care for animals. The fox has a chance and often escapes or goes to ground. And you clearly don't get out into the country much. Road kill is all over the place. yeah keep telling yourself that what a load of crap that is let me go and find a needle so i can sew my side up where it has split from laughing and i'm being very presumptuous by saying those who kill just for pleasure are fly blown filth of humanity " Agree with you 100%, we don't need this kind of scum among our race. | |||
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""None of us could get out. When we tried to use a side door, the fox heard and came hating round there" " Wily old fox | |||
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"I am Country through and through. We have four horses at the last count (she has a tendency to buy them without telling) I think we are pretty normal. Can't stand suffering of any animal hate fox hunting. It's simply more efficient to shoot them with a rifle when they are out overnight that cannot be up for debate. People make a good living out of humane animal control. Hunting is simply pageantry that can be recreated without killing. Just don't ask me to pull the trigger. We had a terrible problem with magpies round here stripping young birds nests of eggs and hatchlings. I went out to shoot them after securing permission and couldn't do it. My guns are for burglars now. " I wasnt there to burgle...just some tompeepery! | |||
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"I am Country through and through. We have four horses at the last count (she has a tendency to buy them without telling) I think we are pretty normal. Can't stand suffering of any animal hate fox hunting. It's simply more efficient to shoot them with a rifle when they are out overnight that cannot be up for debate. People make a good living out of humane animal control. Hunting is simply pageantry that can be recreated without killing. Just don't ask me to pull the trigger. We had a terrible problem with magpies round here stripping young birds nests of eggs and hatchlings. I went out to shoot them after securing permission and couldn't do it. My guns are for burglars now. I wasnt there to burgle...just some tompeepery!" Next time buzz the gate. | |||
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"Gosh, this brings back memories of student days as a hunt saboteur. We used to spend most of our weekends doing what we could to make sure foxes were not caught. Guess we will be at it again, although not sure how fit I am. Some very frightening moments when we were surrounded by huntsman and terrier men, the police nowhere in sight and dunked under water to scare us away, a generally very violent and marauding population who could not give a damn about us peasants ... would be a nightmare for it to come back, but I will be out there again. Absolutely criminal that such a disgustingly inhumane thing could happen again ... but hardly surprising in our society. " Surely not.The jolly huntsmen and women,who are from all walks of society remember-not just posh twats,would never be so inhumane as to try and scare you off with violence.I mean it's not in them,surely... | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. I did notice that, it is always strange that those who dont have a convincing argument always shout or get personal, as someone once said dont shout improve your argument Why am I not surprised. " | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. " because you grew up among those people in your remedial classes and seen it all before ? | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. " People naturally have some degree of violent tendencies, it's simply that the 'anti-hunt lot' would rather take them out against over-privileged upper class sadists rather than defenceless animals. | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. People naturally have some degree of violent tendencies, it's simply that the 'anti-hunt lot' would rather take them out against over-privileged upper class sadists rather than defenceless animals." And that is better ? | |||
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"It is an utterly bizarre way to hunt. Dressing in red and black, blowing horns, and riding along with packs of yelping and baying hounds is pretty much opposite from the skilful stealth needed for hunting any other animal. Poor foxes. " It's also how they meet those with whom they'll go on to in-breed. | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. People naturally have some degree of violent tendencies, it's simply that the 'anti-hunt lot' would rather take them out against over-privileged upper class sadists rather than defenceless animals. And that is better ?" Yep. | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. " or they just think uppity cunts need a slap | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. I did notice that, it is always strange that those who dont have a convincing argument always shout or get personal, as someone once said dont shout improve your argument Why am I not surprised. " It took me a minute to realise that you had posted your reply inside the quotes. Firstly my post doesn't infer that all the anti-hunt people advocate violence. And pointing out that people are advocating it and that they may have a low IQ is certainly not as personal as calling people scum or that they should be wiped from this society. I believe that term is ethnic cleansing. How much more personal can you get? The pro-hunt group have put their argument across quite clearly without getting threatening. | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. or they just think uppity cunts need a slap" This is exactly my point. I despair, I really do. | |||
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"How naive can you all get! Where to start... ok worked within hunting so I do know a little about it. If you think the ban stopped the practice of hunting foxes with dogs, you would be wrong. They just do it outside the law. Are you seriously telling me that a pack of dogs following a fake trail that come across a real fox scent will not act on it? And it is not a fair fight. The myth that if the fox is healthy it will get away! Maybe if the terrrier men didn't block up their earths the day before, or dig them out with terriers if they do go to ground. Maybe if the practice of 'bagging' ie capturing a live animal and releasing in alien territory with a hunt close by wasn't regularly implemented? No still, even then. Another arguement that it is only the old/infirm/ injured(and by this I mean shot previously) that get caught. JUST. NOT.TRUE. And yes, I have seen the results of foxes on chicken coops and lambing etc but it still doesn't justify it. Nothing does." I agree totally No need for this barbaric practise the law hasn't stopped but it has reduced it dramatically As for those saying ban all sports involving animals because animals get hurt, ban schools as kids get hurt there too! What rubbish! Properly regulated sports with animals have some of the most pampered loved and cared for animals on the planet, yes whenever money gets involved people need to be monitored and regulated but if you ban horse riding what do you think will happen to all the horses in the country? Kept as pets not to be ridden? Nope they will be shot same with the dogs, you know hard it is to regime grey hounds? Extremely! Ban animals in sport and leisure? Ban pets too then that's not natural either! How can you compare horse riding or racing with hunting? | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. People naturally have some degree of violent tendencies, it's simply that the 'anti-hunt lot' would rather take them out against over-privileged upper class sadists rather than defenceless animals. And that is better ?" Probably a bit better to give them someone who can talk back..than something thats cowering in fear of its life. I'd say calling people cunts or saying they deserve a slap, still makes me a cut above someone who can cause distress and suffering to an animal...I suppose its always better to have something that cant really fight back or argue,if thats what being humans all about eh? | |||
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"I despair, I really do. " Hopefully that grants you some degree of empathy toward the fox then. | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. or they just think uppity cunts need a slap This is exactly my point. I despair, I really do. " You have just insulted peoples IQ's for swearing/offensiveness or using bad grammar...get off your high horse and feed yer nuts to a fox | |||
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"Was my dream as a boy to be the Master off the Hunt on Boxing day in our Village seeing the hounds and Horses set off will always stick in my mind a glass of port or sherry before the chase TALLY O AFTER THE BASTARD Never forget my first Hunt" Was Just 18 the foxes brush across my face with the blood still got the Photos from the Local Paper | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. I did notice that, it is always strange that those who dont have a convincing argument always shout or get personal, as someone once said dont shout improve your argument Why am I not surprised. It took me a minute to realise that you had posted your reply inside the quotes. Firstly my post doesn't infer that all the anti-hunt people advocate violence. And pointing out that people are advocating it and that they may have a low IQ is certainly not as personal as calling people scum or that they should be wiped from this society. I believe that term is ethnic cleansing. How much more personal can you get? The pro-hunt group have put their argument across quite clearly without getting threatening. " Neither did I. Just saying. | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. I did notice that, it is always strange that those who dont have a convincing argument always shout or get personal, as someone once said dont shout improve your argument Why am I not surprised. It took me a minute to realise that you had posted your reply inside the quotes. Firstly my post doesn't infer that all the anti-hunt people advocate violence. And pointing out that people are advocating it and that they may have a low IQ is certainly not as personal as calling people scum or that they should be wiped from this society. I believe that term is ethnic cleansing. How much more personal can you get? The pro-hunt group have put their argument across quite clearly without getting threatening. " Didnt realise I had put the reply inside your post and then couldnt edit it out As I said I am not a hunter and some that are dont do their cause any favours but I unlike many of the antis do know from first hand experience what I am talking about, I totally respect those that don't want to see any living creature die but nature is cruel. The amount of animal cruelty caused to pets by "animal lovers" far outweighs any caused by hunting and shooting or fishing | |||
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" That last point, about the cars - just ultimately proves how ineffective hunting foxes is, that more foxes die by accident. Also puts into perspective the 'huge pest' that they are, considering how few you see these days dead or alive. Why do people hate animals, either all or a specific species? Also, normal people don't own a pack of dogs and horses. That's a right minority there, most dog owners actually care about their dogs as companions and pets. Fox hunters are exceptionally abnormal, gloating over extreme cruelty. You're showing your ignorance. The dogs are kept as a business and have blood lines going back hundreds of years in some cases. Normal people don't own horses? Are you kidding me? People from all walks of life own horses. It's also very presumptuous to think that because they hunt they don't care for animals. The fox has a chance and often escapes or goes to ground. And you clearly don't get out into the country much. Road kill is all over the place. " fox hunting is a blood sport it's no different to dog fighting its just rich people fox hunt so seen as acceptable in my eyes it's no they are no better than people who fight dogs anybody that partakes in any blood sport is no animal lover and no matter how you try and justify blood sports I will never believe that anybody to takes part in such an act is an animal lover if you believe they are then you clearly have a different ideal on what an animal lover is than I do | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. " So it's ok to be violent against animals but if you do it against people it means you have a low IQ? I hate animal cruelty I think people who fox hunt are arrogant toffs who think because they have money its ok to hunt foxes for the thrill of the chase does that make me unintelligent? I happy to be so if it does | |||
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"Was my dream as a boy to be the Master off the Hunt on Boxing day in our Village seeing the hounds and Horses set off will always stick in my mind a glass of port or sherry before the chase TALLY O AFTER THE BASTARD Never forget my first Hunt Was Just 18 the foxes brush across my face with the blood still got the Photos from the Local Paper" Taste the blood as it ran on to my lips | |||
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"Plus foxes are a pretty smart animal ive seen a few that out smarted people on horses and a pack of hounds... " That's probably more a reflection on the intelligence (lack of) of the hunts folk. | |||
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"It is an utterly bizarre way to hunt. Dressing in red and black, blowing horns, and riding along with packs of yelping and baying hounds is pretty much opposite from the skilful stealth needed for hunting any other animal. Poor foxes. It's also how they meet those with whom they'll go on to in-breed. " Good point!! | |||
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"It's actually "Hunting with dogs" not a fox hunting ban. Most of the people collared have been poacher types using lurchers not the horse riding mindless Muppet's in red. I was brought up very near to a hunt and found dead hounds that had been lamed then shot on a regular basis. These people are not animal lovers or respect nature they are at worst sadistic bloodthirsty maniacs and best mindless socialite tossers. Hunting to control and protect or even put meat on the table is fine by me if it's humane and has a reason. Killing something for sport however is sadistic,warped and less than a human being should be. " | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. So it's ok to be violent against animals but if you do it against people it means you have a low IQ? I hate animal cruelty I think people who fox hunt are arrogant toffs who think because they have money its ok to hunt foxes for the thrill of the chase does that make me unintelligent? I happy to be so if it does" No go back and read what I wrote. I pointed out that the few who were advocating violence against people did so with bad grammar etc. This would indicate that those individuals are probably of low IQ and that and violence against other people are linked. I have lots of very smart friends who are against fox hunting. They like many others do so with reasonable arguments without the need to threaten anyone. | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. " I am anti hunt and have not used derogatory language. When I used to sabotage hunts I did not have my degree, or either of my two masters degrees, but I do now ... and I am still against hunting. Maybe some of the intelligent anti brigade who are swearing think that is the only way they can get through to the thugs. I was there when the hunts used to happen. I have seen the violence and the lengths they go to .... trust me, it is the only language some people can understand. All that's best about Britain? Makes me so proud ....not | |||
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" Killing something for sport however is sadistic,warped and less than a human being should be. " look around you, war is just part of life now days, people risking their life's and the life's of their children by the thousands on a daily basis in the medateranian and that's just one example of many humans just can't co exist, we can't even co exist with our own kind so how can we respect the life's of others it will never change | |||
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"I've noticed that the only people advocating violence and using offensive words about another group of people are from the anti-hunt lot. Judging by their grammar and spelling those making the threats are obviously not terribly intelligent either. People of lower IQ are more prone to violence against other people. Why am I not surprised. So it's ok to be violent against animals but if you do it against people it means you have a low IQ? I hate animal cruelty I think people who fox hunt are arrogant toffs who think because they have money its ok to hunt foxes for the thrill of the chase does that make me unintelligent? I happy to be so if it does No go back and read what I wrote. I pointed out that the few who were advocating violence against people did so with bad grammar etc. This would indicate that those individuals are probably of low IQ and that and violence against other people are linked. I have lots of very smart friends who are against fox hunting. They like many others do so with reasonable arguments without the need to threaten anyone. " The worst violence I have experienced against me in my life was being surrounded by a group of male huntsman on horseback with my then boyfriend, we were uni. students at the time, they dunked us and held us under in a deep river and the police were nowhere to be seen ... we were a bunch of scrawny, ill fed veggie students, on student grants (those were the days) ... wait, maybe there was another time, police horses charging at us on a demonstration about another animal rights issue, watched a blinds protestor get trampled, and the horses trying to veer away in the process ...ah yes, the Tory Britain that we know and love .... here it comes again | |||
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"Boxing day Morning Ye old Star Old town Bridlington Yorkshire could be over one Hundred on the hunt happy days in the 50,s.The sound of the horse on the cobbles as the hunt started " I personally prefer the sound of carols. Each to their own. And I prefered cuddling up to my dog than watching it rip flesh from other animals. Bad, I know. | |||
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" That last point, about the cars - just ultimately proves how ineffective hunting foxes is, that more foxes die by accident. Also puts into perspective the 'huge pest' that they are, considering how few you see these days dead or alive. Why do people hate animals, either all or a specific species? Also, normal people don't own a pack of dogs and horses. That's a right minority there, most dog owners actually care about their dogs as companions and pets. Fox hunters are exceptionally abnormal, gloating over extreme cruelty. You're showing your ignorance. The dogs are kept as a business and have blood lines going back hundreds of years in some cases. Normal people don't own horses? Are you kidding me? People from all walks of life own horses. It's also very presumptuous to think that because they hunt they don't care for animals. The fox has a chance and often escapes or goes to ground. And you clearly don't get out into the country much. Road kill is all over the place. " the dumb force is strong with this one. Don't see much countrysode? I live in the welsh valleys. A minority of people own horses - and an even smaller portion of them keep dogs for the 'buisness' of animal cruelty. You can't call people who hunt for fun carers of animals in anyway whatsoever. What planet are you on? | |||
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"www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-33360817 I particularly like the quote from the chairman who "tweaked his groin" trying to get away from the marauding animal " I don't LIKE fox hunting and I don't agree with it either or any other type of animal hunting, especially the twat out of Stone Roses who thinks it's super-cool to shoot a fucking Giraffe and pose with it. But I thought the fox hunting ban was a weird one to go through in the first place. It leaves the door open for a whole bunch of other things to get banned too or at the very least debated and I found it weird the we took that risk to start with. | |||
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"Just saying there's talk about re-wilding the UK, which may mean reintroduction of wolves and bears. It might be more than a few chickens getting et if that's the case. am surprised females are against the reintroduction of bears any one i know has got a room with shelfs full of them I'm bang along side re-wilding. It would make rambling much more exciting. " I`m in love,lol | |||
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"Just saying there's talk about re-wilding the UK, which may mean reintroduction of wolves and bears. It might be more than a few chickens getting et if that's the case. " More people in Europe are killed by domestic dogs each year, than have ever been killed by Wolves, and we have dogs roaming the streets. | |||
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"If dog fighting is illegal because of the nature of it, then why are they hoping to bring back fox hunting. Barbaric is the word I would describe both of the above." Because generally dog fighting is associated with the lower class and fox hunting the upper class a group of unemployed lower class people betting on what dog will win is seen as unacceptable a group of upper class people going our for a social gathering over three country side chasing foxes is fine | |||
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"So I guess no one reads 'orse and hound here then I don't think anybody reads anything here sorry did you say something " "A woman who tried to distract the fox with food sustained a bite to her hand" | |||
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"So I guess no one reads 'orse and hound here then I don't think anybody reads anything here sorry did you say something "A woman who tried to distract the fox with food sustained a bite to her hand" " is that an old Chinese proverb | |||
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"So I guess no one reads 'orse and hound here then I don't think anybody reads anything here sorry did you say something "A woman who tried to distract the fox with food sustained a bite to her hand" is that an old Chinese proverb " I'm done, I can quote no more nuggets of humour | |||
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"Exaggerated stories, like when whalers used to speak of Whales attacking ships to justify their profession and make themselves seem brave, we all know Whales are peaceful animals now. In fairness whales have capsised ships, just not on purpose... " So did the captain of the Titanic, apparently! | |||
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"ban fox hunting and let the wee hens live to the grand old age of 104 ...well actually probably wont see a year until a human comes along slits its throat plucks its feather and eats it wow thats the life for a hen people talk as thou chickens and hens are wee pets their not their your dinner your no better than a wee mad fox " Ladies and gentleman. And the winner of the idiotic post of the week goes to, ....................... | |||
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"ban fox hunting and let the wee hens live to the grand old age of 104 ...well actually probably wont see a year until a human comes along slits its throat plucks its feather and eats it wow thats the life for a hen people talk as thou chickens and hens are wee pets their not their your dinner your no better than a wee mad fox Ladies and gentleman. And the winner of the idiotic post of the week goes to, ....................... " the guy with four feet | |||
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""Club members ended up barricaded inside the building, watching the fox on the CCTV system as it stalked outside" " They were watching Fox? | |||
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"Exaggerated stories, like when whalers used to speak of Whales attacking ships to justify their profession and make themselves seem brave, we all know Whales are peaceful animals now. In fairness whales have capsised ships, just not on purpose... So did the captain of the Titanic, apparently! " I raise you Concordia! | |||
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"Anyone who compares keeping & slaughtering chickens for eggs & meat to fox hunting, ............well............ Obvously not too many brain cells needed here then!! Goodnight to EVERYONE, - no intellectually discriminatory exceptions from me! " if you read it correctly it was its ok for humans to slaughter chickens but a fox eats one its lets set a pack of hounds on them but then again obviously you dont have many brain cells so just as well | |||
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"Not sure the hooray Henry's would be in that particular neighbourhood with their hounds Keeping fox numbers down humanely is fine just can't stand the hunt lot charging about torturing the poor buggers for hours first arrogant tossers! I used to very opposed to fox hunting but now I've grown up and seen the wider issues. Foxes are a pest and need a natural predator to keep their numbers down. There isn't one so one has to be found. Shooting/poisons aren't humane and kill healthy animals whereas hunting..... If the animal is healthy and fit, it escapes. If it isn't, it dies. Numbers are reduced and nature takes it's course. Back to natural selection, the strong survive and the weak die. And numbers are kept under control. Foxes are a pest in the country and are now so in urban areas. There is nothing to stop them spreading so a solution has to be found. How is the weather over there in lala land? There is NO excuse to hunt for sport. If any animal needs killing for 'pest' control then do so humanely. Of course, you could try running a mile or three in the foxes shoes whilst a pack of hounds chases you intent on ripping you apart. Then come back and talk about survival of the fittest. Typical towny response. Do you know that the fox is killed very quickly by the pack. Shooting a fox is not guaranteed to kill it and it may run off injured to die slowly. Calling the people who go on hunts, Hooray Henrys also shows your ignorance. I have friends who ride on hunts and they're just normal people. The horses get a good exercise, the dogs too. Oh and I hope you don't drive because more foxes get killed by cars then any hunt could ever do. " The hunt are generally a bunch of very decent people that are well involved in the local community and the hunts aww heavily involved in charity work. Foxes that are caught by dogs are killed almost instantly. It provides a valuable and sustainable income to the rural communities. It brings communities together. It provides horses and riders with exceptional routes and land to ride we would otherwise be unable to access. Hunt masters provide a use for the blood hound, a breed of dog that may become extinct without the hunt. It's one of the few living British traditions still going in a society, fast being accused of not being British or traditional anymore. And us 'Hooray Henry's' are all normally some of the most educated 'morons' in the country. Rural life and rural living is almost impossible to understand if you've never experienced it. Community is a huge part of life, over superficial and modern townie preferences. And the hunt is a community. Anyone that does not have the ability to open their narrow mind as to why it still goes on : I challenge you, spend 5 years in a rural community then re answer the same question. Or don't, because ignorance is bliss!!! | |||
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"I have 2 horses. Reckon I'm pretty normal..... Can't stand any form of animal cruelty. If foxes need controlling why not do so with a cull?" How do you propose to cull the foxes? With poison? What about all the other animals & birds this affects By shooting? In the same way as badgers have been successfully shot. A fox is far more alert than any badger and is far more likely to be injured by a marksman than killed. Let’s find practical solutions rather than throw insults around. Trapping? Again this affects more animals and birds than just foxes. Most foxes would avoid a trap as they have a keen sense of smell. Whilst we are on the subject of cruelty, isn’t it time commercial fishing was outlawed. After all thousands of fish suffocate to death when caught isn’t that barbaric? | |||
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""Club members ended up barricaded inside the building, watching the fox on the CCTV system as it stalked outside" They were watching Fox? " Yay!!! Some humour to compliment the purpose of the thread | |||
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" It provides horses and riders with exceptional routes and land to ride we would otherwise be unable to access. " Endurance riding also does this. | |||
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"I have 2 horses. Reckon I'm pretty normal..... Can't stand any form of animal cruelty. If foxes need controlling why not do so with a cull? How do you propose to cull the foxes? With poison? What about all the other animals & birds this affects By shooting? In the same way as badgers have been successfully shot. A fox is far more alert than any badger and is far more likely to be injured by a marksman than killed. Let’s find practical solutions rather than throw insults around. Trapping? Again this affects more animals and birds than just foxes. Most foxes would avoid a trap as they have a keen sense of smell. Whilst we are on the subject of cruelty, isn’t it time commercial fishing was outlawed. After all thousands of fish suffocate to death when caught isn’t that barbaric? " I don't see anywhere i'm throwing insults around. And you're comparing fishing for food to a blood sport. I've known farmers who have shot foxes. Ones that are sick, ill, old. The same ones that the hunt claim they deal with. I also have friends who hunt/are pro hunt and they say they rarely see a fox killed. So how exactly is this keeping the numbers down? | |||
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"Not sure the hooray Henry's would be in that particular neighbourhood with their hounds Keeping fox numbers down humanely is fine just can't stand the hunt lot charging about torturing the poor buggers for hours first arrogant tossers! I used to very opposed to fox hunting but now I've grown up and seen the wider issues. Foxes are a pest and need a natural predator to keep their numbers down. There isn't one so one has to be found. Shooting/poisons aren't humane and kill healthy animals whereas hunting..... If the animal is healthy and fit, it escapes. If it isn't, it dies. Numbers are reduced and nature takes it's course. Back to natural selection, the strong survive and the weak die. And numbers are kept under control. Foxes are a pest in the country and are now so in urban areas. There is nothing to stop them spreading so a solution has to be found. How is the weather over there in lala land? There is NO excuse to hunt for sport. If any animal needs killing for 'pest' control then do so humanely. Of course, you could try running a mile or three in the foxes shoes whilst a pack of hounds chases you intent on ripping you apart. Then come back and talk about survival of the fittest. Typical towny response. Do you know that the fox is killed very quickly by the pack. Shooting a fox is not guaranteed to kill it and it may run off injured to die slowly. Calling the people who go on hunts, Hooray Henrys also shows your ignorance. I have friends who ride on hunts and they're just normal people. The horses get a good exercise, the dogs too. Oh and I hope you don't drive because more foxes get killed by cars then any hunt could ever do. The hunt are generally a bunch of very decent people that are well involved in the local community and the hunts aww heavily involved in charity work. Foxes that are caught by dogs are killed almost instantly. It provides a valuable and sustainable income to the rural communities. It brings communities together. It provides horses and riders with exceptional routes and land to ride we would otherwise be unable to access. Hunt masters provide a use for the blood hound, a breed of dog that may become extinct without the hunt. It's one of the few living British traditions still going in a society, fast being accused of not being British or traditional anymore. And us 'Hooray Henry's' are all normally some of the most educated 'morons' in the country. Rural life and rural living is almost impossible to understand if you've never experienced it. Community is a huge part of life, over superficial and modern townie preferences. And the hunt is a community. Anyone that does not have the ability to open their narrow mind as to why it still goes on : I challenge you, spend 5 years in a rural community then re answer the same question. Or don't, because ignorance is bliss!!! " I really liked the part about the blood hound becoming extinct...I chortled more at that than anything else you spouted... | |||
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"Fox hunting with hounds goes against everything I hold dear about hunting. It's cruel and barbaric. The Fox is exhausted and scared when the end comes and its far from a quick and painless death as some claim - Fox hounds attack from the stomach and the animal is pretty much disembowelled whilst still alive. I grew up around the Quorn Hunt and was in a friend's garden when a pack of hounds cornered a fox and killed it in front of us. The cunts on the horses weren't the least bit apologetic either. Hunt them with a rifle by all means, it's certainly more humane and sporting. Just remember it's humans that have invaded the foxes habitat." We had a hunt go through our garden once. The neighbours had hidden the fox in their garage. Want to hunt a wild animal? Use skill to do so. What's skilful about a bunch of horses and dogs chasing a small, not exactly dangerous animal? | |||
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"Can we not learn to have a laugh ?" Have you read the first post? And the link? Thread was posted as a bit of light hearted humour - the story had nothing whatsoever to do with fox hunting!! | |||
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"Can we not learn to have a laugh ? Have you read the first post? And the link? Thread was posted as a bit of light hearted humour - the story had nothing whatsoever to do with fox hunting!!" Have you kept track of the comments on here, the thread has evolved into a serious debate to which I was responding, why do people keep doing this to me? it`s bizarre. | |||
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"Can we not learn to have a laugh ? Have you read the first post? And the link? Thread was posted as a bit of light hearted humour - the story had nothing whatsoever to do with fox hunting!! Have you kept track of the comments on here, the thread has evolved into a serious debate to which I was responding, why do people keep doing this to me? it`s bizarre. " Oh yes I have watched the thread from when I first posted it! Serious debate - questionable My earlier response - why can't we learn to have a laugh? - quite appropriate given the fact the original post was not designed to develop a "serious debate", but simply raise a smile or have a giggle. | |||
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"Can we not learn to have a laugh ? Have you read the first post? And the link? Thread was posted as a bit of light hearted humour - the story had nothing whatsoever to do with fox hunting!! Have you kept track of the comments on here, the thread has evolved into a serious debate to which I was responding, why do people keep doing this to me? it`s bizarre. Oh yes I have watched the thread from when I first posted it! Serious debate - questionable My earlier response - why can't we learn to have a laugh? - quite appropriate given the fact the original post was not designed to develop a "serious debate", but simply raise a smile or have a giggle. " Threads evolve from the original OP, it is the way of things | |||
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"Can we not learn to have a laugh ? Have you read the first post? And the link? Thread was posted as a bit of light hearted humour - the story had nothing whatsoever to do with fox hunting!! Have you kept track of the comments on here, the thread has evolved into a serious debate to which I was responding, why do people keep doing this to me? it`s bizarre. Oh yes I have watched the thread from when I first posted it! Serious debate - questionable My earlier response - why can't we learn to have a laugh? - quite appropriate given the fact the original post was not designed to develop a "serious debate", but simply raise a smile or have a giggle. Threads evolve from the original OP, it is the way of things " Of course | |||
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"Can we not learn to have a laugh ? Have you read the first post? And the link? Thread was posted as a bit of light hearted humour - the story had nothing whatsoever to do with fox hunting!! Have you kept track of the comments on here, the thread has evolved into a serious debate to which I was responding, why do people keep doing this to me? it`s bizarre. Oh yes I have watched the thread from when I first posted it! Serious debate - questionable My earlier response - why can't we learn to have a laugh? - quite appropriate given the fact the original post was not designed to develop a "serious debate", but simply raise a smile or have a giggle. Threads evolve from the original OP, it is the way of things Of course" No hard feelings mate, take care, | |||
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"Can we not learn to have a laugh ? Have you read the first post? And the link? Thread was posted as a bit of light hearted humour - the story had nothing whatsoever to do with fox hunting!! Have you kept track of the comments on here, the thread has evolved into a serious debate to which I was responding, why do people keep doing this to me? it`s bizarre. Oh yes I have watched the thread from when I first posted it! Serious debate - questionable My earlier response - why can't we learn to have a laugh? - quite appropriate given the fact the original post was not designed to develop a "serious debate", but simply raise a smile or have a giggle. Threads evolve from the original OP, it is the way of things Of course No hard feelings mate, take care, " ?? Why? | |||
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"so should it be banned or not ? " That wasn't the question. There was no question | |||
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"so should it be banned or not ? " fox culling no fox hunting yes | |||
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