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rotherham cabbies refusing to fit CCTV, why???

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Could it be something to do with the cost, or more likely the 1400 white school girls that they have been raping and abusing ????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Could it be something to do with the cost, or more likely the 1400 white school girls that they have been raping and abusing ????

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.........o dear I can see this going well!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not the best PR move in a delicate situation. I suspect as with everything there is more to it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

lets just tar everyone with the same brush, shall we...

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By *evaquitCouple over a year ago

Catthorpe

Those notes are handy when needing to recollect.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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Oh it was all cabbies was it?

This place is better than sky news isn't it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh it was all cabbies was it?

This place is better than sky news isn't it

I thought it was only 50/50 cab drivers and take aways.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Coz it's more money needed to be spent on their businesses. Plus customers won't want to be taped.

Couple of non-peado reasons i can think of right there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Tar everyone with the same brush!! Jimmy Saville was a muslim!!! (Fred west too and hindley and Bradey!!)

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Oh it was all cabbies was it?

Err, no.

It was only ALL the muslim, black ones, obvs.

No white christian man has ever committed any crime whatsoever. In fact I'd go as far as to say that Hitler was a very nice young man, when I had him in the back of my cab...

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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"Oh it was all cabbies was it?

Err, no.

It was only ALL the muslim, black ones, obvs.

No white christian man has ever committed any crime whatsoever. In fact I'd go as far as to say that Hitler was a very nice young man, when I had him in the back of my cab...

Mr ddc"

He was nice when he gave me a lift too

I told him a moustache would suit him and soften his face a little

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

Mr ddc

He was nice when he gave me a lift too

I told him a moustache would suit him and soften his face a little"

I changed my tune after driving him all the way to Warsaw though. He left such I miserly tip I nearly accused him of being...

Scottish?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

My tea wasn't that great last night. Ruddy Muslims at it again causing all the problems in the world....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would refuse to install it just too piss-off the type of person who wants monitor how I behave ....

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

"My tea wasn't that great last night. Ruddy Muslims at it again causing all the problems in the world....

Are you talking utter pradesh again Tina?

You should stick to that nice English Earl Grey stuff instead.

White though, obvs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Number of reasons like income tax mates taking there place without taxi licence

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents....

But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!...

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

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By *ngel n tedCouple over a year ago

maidstone

All these sort of capers go on in all different countries, do folk think that when they come here, they will shun there old ways and enjoy tea and sunday roasts, all of this is the way it is now......great britain.....enjoy pfffft

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"Could it be something to do with the cost, or more likely the 1400 white school girls that they have been raping and abusing ????

You are lumping everyone together there, I am sure not all of the Taxi drivers were involved.

Here is a link to what has been said about it.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/rotherham-councillors-back-controversial-new-licensing-laws-for-taxi-drivers-1-7348938

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By *edangel_2013Woman over a year ago

southend

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!"

I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'.

Try getting your facts straight before hanging people.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28934963

It could be this that people are talking about.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'.

Try getting your facts straight before hanging people."
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Try reading what I wrote...I was being case specific!

Did any of your 250 get away with it for years despite growing allegations because they were .... Atheists... If so I'll stamp my feet about that too

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Could it be something to do with the cost, or more likely the 1400 white school girls that they have been raping and abusing ????

were all those convicted cab drivers then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!"

The non tabloid paper reports I have read have stated most assaults are by family members, friends and neighbours. That would suggest that the biggest number of offenders are white men. But then that is obvious and not newsworthy. Shall we start rounding up individual white male parents? Some may remember the Cleveland scandal.

People who commit crimes against children are vile no matter what colour or creed. The commentor also ignores the abuse within communities against their own children.

I wonder who really is the ostrich!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'.

Try getting your facts straight before hanging people."

now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now..

i mean really..

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'.

Try getting your facts straight before hanging people.

now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now..

i mean really..

To be fair, I thought the post was talking about the Rotherham abuse that did actually happen. Sadly when anyone talks about it you get shot down.

It is well documented if you want to look it up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'.

Try getting your facts straight before hanging people..

Try reading what I wrote...I was being case specific!

Did any of your 250 get away with it for years despite growing allegations because they were .... Atheists... If so I'll stamp my feet about that too

After disagreeing with you yesterday. I find myself agreeing with your opinion today. Funny old world.

(Fracking for the win

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"Could it be something to do with the cost, or more likely the 1400 white school girls that they have been raping and abusing ????

You are lumping everyone together there, I am sure not all of the Taxi drivers were involved.

Here is a link to what has been said about it.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/rotherham-councillors-back-controversial-new-licensing-laws-for-taxi-drivers-1-7348938"

Sorry, it might be this link you are talking about.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/five-rotherham-taxi-drivers-have-licenses-revoked-in-relation-to-child-abuse-investigations-1-7329546

It still isn't all taxi drivers

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'.

Try getting your facts straight before hanging people.

now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now..

i mean really..

To be fair, I thought the post was talking about the Rotherham abuse that did actually happen. Sadly when anyone talks about it you get shot down.

It is well documented if you want to look it up."

the assumption or inference from the OP is that all taxi drivers are Asian in that area and that they were all linked to the disgusting issue's that took place there..

not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there...

there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'.

Try getting your facts straight before hanging people.

now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now..

i mean really..

To be fair, I thought the post was talking about the Rotherham abuse that did actually happen. Sadly when anyone talks about it you get shot down.

It is well documented if you want to look it up.

the assumption or inference from the OP is that all taxi drivers are Asian in that area and that they were all linked to the disgusting issue's that took place there..

not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there...

there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame..

to be fair nowhere at all has the OP even mentioned the nationality of the taxi drivers or said all drivers are asian

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'.

Try getting your facts straight before hanging people.

now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now..

i mean really..

To be fair, I thought the post was talking about the Rotherham abuse that did actually happen. Sadly when anyone talks about it you get shot down.

It is well documented if you want to look it up."
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It wasn't just a one off at Rotherham though was it, there's been five documented court cases now within a few years all involving majority Muslim men, all using the Same tactics, all using the same victim status and all getting away with it for more years than they should have because of the fear of not offending people!

The ostriches always drag up the same shit about % of offenders, Muslim faith blah blah blah... Who gives a shit, I was banging on about catholic paedos for years and what a disgrace they were...

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there...

there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame..

You were not quoting the OP

The OP didn't mention any religion.

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

To me, it's a response to the effect of what happened, not really dealing with the beliefs around what caused it.

Can't help thinking what my response would have been if it had been one of my daughters.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

You were not quoting the OP

The OP didn't mention any religion.

Try the green arrow Ruggers, the OP clearly has a thing about muslims.

There is definitely an inference that the only reason any cabbie would not want to incur additional costs is because it might stop them from their main aim which is to abuse young white girls.

And yes, most cabbies in Rotherham are Muslim.

However, in the Derbyshire Dales a few years ago, our cabbies were up in arms about new rules that would raise their costs too, they pointed out that they would be unable to compete with other cabbies licensed in Notts/Derby. Back then, it was assumed to be all about financial viability, I don't recall the fact that most of our cabbies are white being mentioned once.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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There is definitely an inference that the only reason any cabbie would not want to incur additional costs is because it might stop them from their main aim which is to abuse young white girls.

Of course there was, and why I quoted the OP and said the same thing.

I answer posts on their merit, and not on previous posts.

I was answering someone who had quoted a different post altogether, so I was talking about that post specifically rather than the OP, which was about abuse that had gone on in Rotherham.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

I was probably coming at it from a different angle then, I was thinking more this take on the story

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/rotherham-taxi-drivers-face-daily-racist-abuse-1-6927524

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To me, it's a response to the effect of what happened, not really dealing with the beliefs around what caused it.

Can't help thinking what my response would have been if it had been one of my daughters.

the problem is these girls didn't come from secure family homes they were mostly in care or under social services because they parents we're drug/alcohol abusers, the reason they were taken away for days on end is because they had nobody in their life's to make sure they were safe or miss them

it's a sad fact that the most vulnerable kids were failed by society, even sadder that kids in care didn't feel important enough to help everybody turned a blind eye to it

I can honestly say it wouldn't have happened to one of my daughters because like most of us who love our kids my girls where never allowed out unless I knew where they was

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"I was probably coming at it from a different angle then, I was thinking more this take on the story

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/rotherham-taxi-drivers-face-daily-racist-abuse-1-6927524

Sadly this is what happens when something major happens like this and the OP proved the point perfectly by lumping everyone together.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

People who commit crimes against children are vile no matter what colour or creed. The commentor also ignores the abuse within communities against their own children.

I wonder who really is the ostrich!"

I don't think you remember the Cleveland scandal

Over zealous councils taking children into care , that were found not to have been abused 94 out of 121 were found not to have been abused at all

1400 hundred in Rotherham systematically abused while the authority's turned a blind eye

Birmingham , Leicester Oxford the same story hundreds abused but no not Southend unless that still has to come to light

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"To me, it's a response to the effect of what happened, not really dealing with the beliefs around what caused it.

Can't help thinking what my response would have been if it had been one of my daughters.

it's a sad fact that the most vulnerable kids were failed by society, even sadder that kids in care didn't feel important enough to help everybody turned a blind eye to it

I can honestly say it wouldn't have happened to one of my daughters because like most of us who love our kids my girls where never allowed out unless I knew where they was"

And it hasn't happened to mine either.

However, the children are at the effect of those who are causing it, not the other way round.

Plus it's not just kids from backgrounds where the parents are not as supportive that are being preyed upon theses days.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Sadly this is what happens when something major happens like this and the OP proved the point perfectly by lumping everyone together.

True, and I think it was the implied bigotry (intolerance towards those who hold different opinions, esp.religious, from yourself) that people were speaking out against.

Perhaps we should simply have reported the post to a mod and been done with it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'.

Try getting your facts straight before hanging people.

now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now..

i mean really..

To be fair, I thought the post was talking about the Rotherham abuse that did actually happen. Sadly when anyone talks about it you get shot down.

It is well documented if you want to look it up.

the assumption or inference from the OP is that all taxi drivers are Asian in that area and that they were all linked to the disgusting issue's that took place there..

not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there...

there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame..

to be fair nowhere at all has the OP even mentioned the nationality of the taxi drivers or said all drivers are asian"

to be fair thats right but they have a history..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there...

there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame..

You were not quoting the OP

The OP didn't mention any religion.

yep, my bad but thats to whom i was referring

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By *andS66Couple over a year ago

Derby

"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too.

Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!

I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'.

Try getting your facts straight before hanging people."

The last census had about 6% of the population as Asian, with about 90% white. The last CEOP report, which drew figures from 46 police forces and 11 children's agencies, that I know of concluded that 28% of 'grooming' sex offenders were Asian, 30% white, and 38% ethnicity not known. Part of these conclusions were that Asians were therefore far more likely to groom children than whites. A further study of the 18 gang grooming trials since 1997 found that of the 56 men convicted, 53 were asian. These reports in themselves show Asians are between 12 and 26 times more likely to be grooming children.

However, a further report concluded that the ethnicity itself should not be taken in isolation, but rather the professions of people perpetrating child grooming... which is more likely to be from 'night time professions' involved with the public... e.g. taxi drivers and fast food outlets. It said that the overwhelming proportion of people involved in this work are Asian, and as such they are more likely to have access to children vulnerable to grooming and exploitation.

Whatever the case, I think it a sad indictment if our society that we fail to be able to protect our children. But then again, if you look at the evidence of high level establishment cover-ups, there's no wonder.

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By *oddyWoman over a year ago

between havant and chichester

My regular taxi firm has cctv in all the cars as the drivers say good back up if there accused of anything by a d*unk passenger

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My regular taxi firm has cctv in all the cars as the drivers say good back up if there accused of anything by a d*unk passenger "

In my opinion they should have cctv

Be clearly marked with also light on top , be the same colour and be metered .Works well in Germany .

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By *andS66Couple over a year ago

Derby

Meanwhile, getting back to the subject, I see no reason for taxis not to have CCTV, buses do, and they've proved a godsend many times, for problems between passengers, problems by passengers, problems by bus drivers, disciplinaries and accident investigations.

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By *P2903Couple over a year ago

Rotherham

I wonder what restrictions Uber drivers will have to tolerate?

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

"28% of 'grooming' sex offenders were Asian, 30% white, and 38% ethnicity not known. Part of these conclusions were that Asians were therefore far more likely to groom children than whites. "

It goes on to say "those working in protecting children from sexual abuse worry that the wrong message is being given about who poses dangers to children from the media coverage of "Asian grooming gangs".

They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators."

Not so much ostriches, but looking the wrong way and missing the bigger picture?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"28% of 'grooming' sex offenders were Asian, 30% white, and 38% ethnicity not known. Part of these conclusions were that Asians were therefore far more likely to groom children than whites.

"Those working in protecting children from sexual abuse "

The point is they didn't protect them ! The message sent out was a cohesive society is more important than protecting children .

The Police and social workers turned the other way , no buried their heads rather than do their job

Because it was in the main Asian men molesting white girls ! It is indefensible !

They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators."

Not so much ostriches, but looking the wrong way and missing the bigger picture?"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not interested in the numbers of white people doing it or fit that instance any black people doing it, if anyone cared to look I never mentioned colour of someone skin, I did mention the thought process that's given to them from a religious belief regarding sex!

The other thing I mentioned is the ability to get away with it longer than they should have because they were Muslim!!

Now for all those quoting the coloured figures... I never once said anything about numbers or colours of skin.... I said they got away with it from being Muslim or as I also pointed out catholic.

Now altogether put your heads in the sand and pretend the problem doesn't exist because that's how they managed to get away with it longer than they should have!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not interested in the numbers of white people doing it or fit that instance any black people doing it, if anyone cared to look I never mentioned colour of someone skin, I did mention the thought process that's given to them from a religious belief regarding sex!

The other thing I mentioned is the ability to get away with it longer than they should have because they were Muslim!!

Now for all those quoting the coloured figures... I never once said anything about numbers or colours of skin.... I said they got away with it from being Muslim or as I also pointed out catholic.

Now altogether put your heads in the sand and pretend the problem doesn't exist because that's how they managed to get away with it longer than they should have!

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Exactly and it is Indefensible !!!!

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"Sadly this is what happens when something major happens like this and the OP proved the point perfectly by lumping everyone together.

True, and I think it was the implied bigotry (intolerance towards those who hold different opinions, esp.religious, from yourself) that people were speaking out against.

Perhaps we should simply have reported the post to a mod and been done with it.

Go for it. Tarring people with the same brush is not against rules, if it was there would be a lot of people banned.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there...

there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame..

You were not quoting the OP

The OP didn't mention any religion.

yep, my bad but thats to whom i was referring "

No worries, it was just a bit confusing as I was answering what you were quoting, which was of a specific case.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"My regular taxi firm has cctv in all the cars as the drivers say good back up if there accused of anything by a d*unk passenger "

Lots of insurance firms are asking Taxi drivers to have cameras so it isn't just the councils....it has to be a good thing from the drivers point of view

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

good for them. im sick of a paranoid state, companys and people who want to record every word you say and watch everything you do. Its not fuckin normal !

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

The other thing I mentioned is the ability to get away with it longer than they should have because they were Muslim!!

Did they?

Longer than Jimmy Saville et al?

Longer than the catholic priests? (Granted you mentioned them initially, but they got away for longer too)

Longer than the MPs recently not prosecuted?

Longer than the teachers/headmasters such as those outed by John Hurt?

But no, let us ignore those figures, unless they fit our preconceived notions.

Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The other thing I mentioned is the ability to get away with it longer than they should have because they were Muslim!!

Did they?

Longer than Jimmy Saville et al?

Longer than the catholic priests? (Granted you mentioned them initially, but they got away for longer too)

Longer than the MPs recently not prosecuted?

Longer than the teachers/headmasters such as those outed by John Hurt?

But no, let us ignore those figures, unless they fit our preconceived notions.

Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The other thing I mentioned is the ability to get away with it longer than they should have because they were Muslim!!

Did they?

Longer than Jimmy Saville et al?

Longer than the catholic priests? (Granted you mentioned them initially, but they got away for longer too)

Longer than the MPs recently not prosecuted?

Longer than the teachers/headmasters such as those outed by John Hurt?

But no, let us ignore those figures, unless they fit our preconceived notions.

Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change.

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yes they did ! Well documented as well

They got away with it for as long as they did and still do ,because they were Asian and their victims young white girls and no matter how much you try the cases you quote do not diminish the abusers crimes !

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change.

this..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't think it's fair to compare people who haven't been prosecuted so although I'll ignore mps even though I wish I could include the devious little fuckers!

So what your saying to me is.... its a complete fluke and coincidental that groups of 14-25 men 92-99% Muslim from around the country used the same technique, motive, ability to systematically groom predominantly white lower class young girls in care, with drugs and alcohol while using the same technique to drive them around the country prostituting them to hundreds of predominantly Muslim men for gang rapes and being pushed into sex trafficking!

But it was a complete fluke just like catholic priests in the same church having a history of it

And ex celebrity's in the same shows and channels getting away with it.

It's pure coincidence!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change.

This.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change.

This."
that is not the case in Rotherham or other cities where these grooming gangs operated

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

No SB,

I am simply saying one swallow doesn't a summer make.

For one bad apple, you don't burn the whole tree.

If your eye offends you, you don't chop off the head.

But mainly I say: I just give up.

Let's just string 'em all up.

I'm done on here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change.

This.that is not the case in Rotherham or other cities where these grooming gangs operated "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change.

This.that is not the case in Rotherham or other cities where these grooming gangs operated

Oh really? That's not what I read in the Rotherham reports. Which specifically criticised elements of the police and others for not taking some of the reports seriously enough because of the "type" of young girls who were making them. "
and other people did believe them but didn't want to rock the boat . Also true in Oxford and Birmingham

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change.

This.that is not the case in Rotherham or other cities where these grooming gangs operated

Oh really? That's not what I read in the Rotherham reports. Which specifically criticised elements of the police and others for not taking some of the reports seriously enough because of the "type" of young girls who were making them. and other people did believe them but didn't want to rock the boat . Also true in Oxford and Birmingham"

I'm not disputing that, but it's fair to say if these had been nice middle class girls there wouldn't have been the same cover up in any of those cases.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change.

This.that is not the case in Rotherham or other cities where these grooming gangs operated

Oh really? That's not what I read in the Rotherham reports. Which specifically criticised elements of the police and others for not taking some of the reports seriously enough because of the "type" of young girls who were making them. and other people did believe them but didn't want to rock the boat . Also true in Oxford and Birmingham

I'm not disputing that, but it's fair to say if these had been nice middle class girls there wouldn't have been the same cover up in any of those cases. "

Maybe so

However with hundreds of girls involved over years

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By *andS66Couple over a year ago

Derby

"28% of 'grooming' sex offenders were Asian, 30% white, and 38% ethnicity not known. Part of these conclusions were that Asians were therefore far more likely to groom children than whites.

They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators."

Not so much ostriches, but looking the wrong way and missing the bigger picture?"

I would try reading all of what I said if I were you, and not cherry picking one part of it, ...however, the report actually said that two thirds of child protection agencies were not meeting national guidelines, and that Asians were more likely to carry out gang grooming.

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By *andS66Couple over a year ago

Derby

"28% of 'grooming' sex offenders were Asian, 30% white, and 38% ethnicity not known. Part of these conclusions were that Asians were therefore far more likely to groom children than whites.

They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators."

Not so much ostriches, but looking the wrong way and missing the bigger picture?

And I also mentioned about establishment abuse, which you chose to ignore from my post as well..

However. I have worked extensively in Birmingham, Rochdale and Rotherham, and can speak from experience that the majority of gangs that are grooming are Asian. I'm sorry if that doesn't sit well with some people, but that's how it is.

As for establishment abuse, something really needs to be done about it, and those people prosecuted before they die or become 'mentally incapable'.

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