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By *immy2x OP   Man  over a year ago

aberdeen/inverness/ highlands

Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

last week was the anniversary of Srebenica..

rape sadly has been used by occupying forces in many conflicts throughout history..

there is no surprise with this latest lot..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Actual fact, hard news, social media or indeed ISIS propaganda?

Do you know which?

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood

on the basis that it's ok to post news links:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29123528

might give some insight to why they are the way they are...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well this thread certainly isn't about the club in Leeds like I thought it was when I opened it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it. "

There doesnt seem to be any atrocity to low for them to stoop too..... and all in the name of religion....apparantly...

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it. "

what do you suggest?

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

There doesnt seem to be any atrocity to low for them to stoop too..... and all in the name of religion....apparantly... "

Thus it ever was in ideo!ogical wars. Women and children rarely fare well as they are the spoils of war.

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By *dwalu2Couple  over a year ago

Bristol


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

what do you suggest?"

You know...something!

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


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Actual fact, hard news, social media or indeed ISIS propaganda?

Do you know which?"

I don't believe we do know the truth of the matter, no. I'm as sure as I can be that the young women I just watched telling their harrowing stories were telling the truth although God knows why they're parading them round schools and for the media then returning them to their refugee camp in Iraq.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i would suggest we have a war on terror, but what does war create

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

terrorists have always existed and nobody has ever come up with an answer.

I do shudder though at the easy way that violence is suggested for seemingly small transgressions even in the forums and wonder why anyone feels surprised when its magnified exponentially for perceived larger wrongs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"on the basis that it's ok to post news links:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29123528

might give some insight to why they are the way they are..."

Wish i'd bookmarked it now but the BBC did a similar one interviewing an MI5/6 double agent of Muslim faith, who for a number of years was very close in the inner sanctum and a close advisor to Obama Bin Laden.

At first, he admits, he was fully into their ideals and actions, but gradually came to question how their atrocities reconciled with their beliefs. Hence, he turned and became a superspy. IIRC also, he claimed, the reason why they found OBL.

He clearly stated that their idealogy, ie to kill all infidels, stemmed from a C13 seige of a single garrison, somewhere in deep Asia, where some 50 muslims were killed by the invaders. The rest is history.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Actual fact, hard news, social media or indeed ISIS propaganda?

Do you know which?

I don't believe we do know the truth of the matter, no. I'm as sure as I can be that the young women I just watched telling their harrowing stories were telling the truth although God knows why they're parading them round schools and for the media then returning them to their refugee camp in Iraq. "

Not saying any one actual person involved is telling less than the truth, but by the same token ISIS see these actions as their calling and recruitment card, which it has to be said is working very successfully. Hence it could be all of true, factual and deliberately released as propaganda.

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"on the basis that it's ok to post news links:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29123528

might give some insight to why they are the way they are...

Wish i'd bookmarked it now but the BBC did a similar one interviewing an MI5/6 double agent of Muslim faith, who for a number of years was very close in the inner sanctum and a close advisor to Obama Bin Laden.

At first, he admits, he was fully into their ideals and actions, but gradually came to question how their atrocities reconciled with their beliefs. Hence, he turned and became a superspy. IIRC also, he claimed, the reason why they found OBL.

He clearly stated that their idealogy, ie to kill all infidels, stemmed from a C13 seige of a single garrison, somewhere in deep Asia, where some 50 muslims were killed by the invaders. The rest is history.

"

yep, the religion in no way guides nor condones what they are doing, it's pure manipulation of the gullible by a minority in their quest for supremacy, using the religious ideology as a vehicle to suck them in

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By *icky999Man  over a year ago

warrington


"

Actual fact, hard news, social media or indeed ISIS propaganda?

Do you know which?

I don't believe we do know the truth of the matter, no. I'm as sure as I can be that the young women I just watched telling their harrowing stories were telling the truth although God knows why they're parading them round schools and for the media then returning them to their refugee camp in Iraq.

Not saying any one actual person involved is telling less than the truth, but by the same token ISIS see these actions as their calling and recruitment card, which it has to be said is working very successfully. Hence it could be all of true, factual and deliberately released as propaganda. "

you are aware they video tape many of their attrositys and post them on line?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well they've been decapitating Christian babies and children out there for months so blowing up a baby wouldn't surprise me. Wasn't it a training exercise meant to dehumanise new Isis recruits out there?

Something major needs to be done but we don't need to know about it, it doesn't need to be discussed in the news or in the media at all because those fuckers can access that information just as easily as we can. They just need to do it, whatever their plan is, sending troops on the ground more air strikes or whatever but just get it done but not tell anybody that it's gonna happen, we'll just know when it's been done.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"

Actual fact, hard news, social media or indeed ISIS propaganda?

Do you know which?

I don't believe we do know the truth of the matter, no. I'm as sure as I can be that the young women I just watched telling their harrowing stories were telling the truth although God knows why they're parading them round schools and for the media then returning them to their refugee camp in Iraq.

Not saying any one actual person involved is telling less than the truth, but by the same token ISIS see these actions as their calling and recruitment card, which it has to be said is working very successfully. Hence it could be all of true, factual and deliberately released as propaganda. "

I'm pretty sure much of it is.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"

Actual fact, hard news, social media or indeed ISIS propaganda?

Do you know which?

I don't believe we do know the truth of the matter, no. I'm as sure as I can be that the young women I just watched telling their harrowing stories were telling the truth although God knows why they're parading them round schools and for the media then returning them to their refugee camp in Iraq.

Not saying any one actual person involved is telling less than the truth, but by the same token ISIS see these actions as their calling and recruitment card, which it has to be said is working very successfully. Hence it could be all of true, factual and deliberately released as propaganda.

you are aware they video tape many of their attrositys and post them on line? "

That's sort of what he's saying.

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"Well they've been decapitating Christian babies and children out there for months so blowing up a baby wouldn't surprise me. Wasn't it a training exercise meant to dehumanise new Isis recruits out there?

Something major needs to be done but we don't need to know about it, it doesn't need to be discussed in the news or in the media at all because those fuckers can access that information just as easily as we can. They just need to do it, whatever their plan is, sending troops on the ground more air strikes or whatever but just get it done but not tell anybody that it's gonna happen, we'll just know when it's been done. "

unless you can eliminate all followers and the material out on the interweb etc, plus the same for any preacher that would pick up where they left off, anything isn't likely to achieve much. How many are waiting in the wings, morality preventing them from taking that extra step, but would be enraged and become the next rank...? Lots, unfortunately

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By *icky999Man  over a year ago

warrington


"

Actual fact, hard news, social media or indeed ISIS propaganda?

Do you know which?

I don't believe we do know the truth of the matter, no. I'm as sure as I can be that the young women I just watched telling their harrowing stories were telling the truth although God knows why they're parading them round schools and for the media then returning them to their refugee camp in Iraq.

Not saying any one actual person involved is telling less than the truth, but by the same token ISIS see these actions as their calling and recruitment card, which it has to be said is working very successfully. Hence it could be all of true, factual and deliberately released as propaganda.

you are aware they video tape many of their attrositys and post them on line?

That's sort of what he's saying."

no, he starts by saying "actual fact" like there is regular false rumors of is atrocities. he then goes on to suggest that It could well be the truth in a tone that suggest these incidents arent documented daily.

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By *obbytupperMan  over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

Terrorism is all about instilling fear.

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"Terrorism is all about instilling fear. "

yep, and their use of atrocity is just a different twist on that dubious phrase the yanks used - "shock and awe"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

what do you suggest?"

.

I suggest we get off the main driver of all this conflict.

Oil. There are alternatives

Then try getting off the next big driver.

Religion, remove it from the state and state sponsorship!

Then take all that foreign aid and give it to one un body that uses it correctly in foreign infrastructure and education!

Then stop bombing people with drones from 10,000 feet, put a proper un fighting force on the ground and expect losses but importantly justifiable losses.

Stop this multi culturalism bullshit, there's some very nasty shit getting peddled in the name of being nice!!... I don't care if your black white Pakistani or Hindu, but some of your cultural things need kicking into touch!

And most importantly stop this pandering to Saudi fucking oligarchy that pushes this insidious bullshit jihad just so we can sell them some shit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

There doesnt seem to be any atrocity to low for them to stoop too..... and all in the name of religion....apparantly... "

We're all animals at the end of the day, driven by millions of years of instinct to kill, consume, fuck then die, trying to make the most of our time and not end up on someone elses menu.

Some animals tart that up behind a veneer of righteousness in the name of religion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

what do you suggest?"

Well the g20 nations do have several hundred thousands tons of chemical weapons they're obligated to dispose of over the next few decades.

And there's always the next downsizing of the US and Russian nuclear arsenals.

Suspended the test ban ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

There doesnt seem to be any atrocity to low for them to stoop too..... and all in the name of religion....apparantly...

We're all animals at the end of the day, driven by millions of years of instinct to kill, consume, fuck then die, trying to make the most of our time and not end up on someone elses menu.

Some animals tart that up behind a veneer of righteousness in the name of religion."

Which instinct is it to torture, humiliate and degrade?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

There doesnt seem to be any atrocity to low for them to stoop too..... and all in the name of religion....apparantly...

We're all animals at the end of the day, driven by millions of years of instinct to kill, consume, fuck then die, trying to make the most of our time and not end up on someone elses menu.

Some animals tart that up behind a veneer of righteousness in the name of religion.

Which instinct is it to torture, humiliate and degrade?

"

Power and control.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Fear and terror is the preferred method of the minority army. it's not really worked well since Genghis Kahn, however as a stage one tactic it is unfortunately very effective at keeping potential outside help outside.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This ISIS malarkey seems to be instilling much fear and hatred in the masses. Whatever we are told via the news channels is calculated and we'll never really know what's true and what isn't.

Since living in Africa for a year a few years ago (if I'd believed news stories about certain parts I would never have gone!) I'm never again wasting my time worrying about what they put out in the news channels for us to consume and debate, like this. I no longer read any papers or watch news channels. Not worth worrying about something out of our control. Life is sweet!

Propaganda bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This ISIS malarkey seems to be instilling much fear and hatred in the masses. Whatever we are told via the news channels is calculated and we'll never really know what's true and what isn't.

Since living in Africa for a year a few years ago (if I'd believed news stories about certain parts I would never have gone!) I'm never again wasting my time worrying about what they put out in the news channels for us to consume and debate, like this. I no longer read any papers or watch news channels. Not worth worrying about something out of our control. Life is sweet!

Propaganda bollocks."

But most of this stuff is actually recorded you can go and watch nearly everything you'd read about or heard on the news in all its gory details on the likes of liveleak.

Heck isis even make some fairly professional videos of their own

There's that insurgency groups in mousul that's fighting isis they have a lot of videos too of them ambushing isis members/patrols etc a lot of the time working as infiltrators.

When you see some of the stuff they do and the risk of getting caught they have the biggest bollocks on the planet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Did anyone see the clip of where Obama says they've been training ISIS?

What a slip of a tongue that is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fear and terror is the preferred method of the minority army. it's not really worked well since Genghis Kahn, however as a stage one tactic it is unfortunately very effective at keeping potential outside help outside. "

Genghis Khan had a minority army, really?

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By *ts smeeeeMan  over a year ago

Liverpool

I wouldn't believe everything you see or read in media

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I wouldn't believe everything you see or read in media "

Hoe about the actual videos then.

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By *ts smeeeeMan  over a year ago

Liverpool

Just watch them closely bout 3/4 times

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By *aughtyinguMan  over a year ago

swindon

Its there power and there weakness, its made them and it will consume them.

But to the locals in Syria the Assad regime is pretty shitty too, and the other factions are weaker and smaller.

There is basis for most of what they do in some religious texts :/, but that's the same with other faiths.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Terrorism seems to be a neccessary evil for Capitalism...

Capitalism through History has always have an ennemy...

Today it is Isis, yesterday it was Russia and communism... what will be next ?

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By *aughtyinguMan  over a year ago

swindon

Actually its those that live in the countries we bomb that are most terrorised, by our bombing.

I think the wealth devide has grown alot since the effective end of communism, probably not a coincidence..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I wouldn't believe everything you see or read in media "

The same media who sold us a war based on a lie... (WMD)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just watch them closely bout 3/4 times "

You saying the videos aren't real? That's a bit insulting to the victims families.

I've watched loads of videos, I hate it cos I think pieces of my soul are taken when I watch them, I've got a macabre and morbid curiosity.

A recent one where they had 4 or 5 guys in a cage and lifted the cage with a crane and submerged it under water with under water cameras, you could see them drown then the cage was resurfaced and you could see all the foam and sick coming out of their noses and mouth. You can't fake that sort of stuff.

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By *izzy RascallMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"i would suggest we have a war on terror, but what does war create "

Absolutley nothing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i would suggest we have a war on terror, but what does war create

Absolutley nothing"

war creates terror

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By *icolehertsCouple  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it. "

We've put boots on the ground for a hell of a lot less than what these maniacs are doing, if we don't do something soon we'll regret it.

Dropping bombs from the air will only go so far !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"terrorists have always existed and nobody has ever come up with an answer.

I do shudder though at the easy way that violence is suggested for seemingly small transgressions even in the forums and wonder why anyone feels surprised when its magnified exponentially for perceived larger wrongs."

It is exactly the same as Nazis in 1930's. It took nearly 10 years for the world to wake up and do something. Wonder how long it will take this time.?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This has been going on for over a thousand years, think back to the crusades. Of course at that time it was all ' over there ' and news media was different. There are suggestions that George saying the dragon is an allegory for a crusade, with the dragon representing Islam. We have to take long term solutions forward, balance the difference between IS and Islam, understand attitudes on both sides and still decide how to fight and survive.

Apologies for the long sentence.

At least that's my opinion.

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By *punkloverCouple  over a year ago

hatfield

I heard a group of mum's in Costa coffee today talking bout this problem when one of them chirped in "bring back Thatcher's mantra, that will take care of it" , i wonder how many people feel about this hard line to solve it.

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By *icolehertsCouple  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

There doesnt seem to be any atrocity to low for them to stoop too..... and all in the name of religion....apparantly...

We're all animals at the end of the day, driven by millions of years of instinct to kill, consume, fuck then die, trying to make the most of our time and not end up on someone elses menu.

Some animals tart that up behind a veneer of righteousness in the name of religion."

Not many animals tend to while away the day thinking of new disgusting ways to humiliate and kill its foe though !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it. "

What are you going to do about it? Or do you want the government to send out more young men to perish in the desert? What about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians that have died due to allied bombings etc since the war on terror has started... I can't help but think we are reaping what we have sown... and for what? Cheap oil and arms sales?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

There doesnt seem to be any atrocity to low for them to stoop too..... and all in the name of religion....apparantly...

We're all animals at the end of the day, driven by millions of years of instinct to kill, consume, fuck then die, trying to make the most of our time and not end up on someone elses menu.

Some animals tart that up behind a veneer of righteousness in the name of religion.

Not many animals tend to while away the day thinking of new disgusting ways to humiliate and kill its foe though !"

See my 'power and control' comment further up.

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"i would suggest we have a war on terror, but what does war create

Absolutley nothing

war creates terror "

methinks he was quoting the next line of the song...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Isis plans to get into Italy and then Spain their beliefs are this will lead to a final showdown with the west when their god will ressurect and Muslims will rule the earth bunch of nutters religion and money are the two biggest evils.when the war first started in Syria what did Obama call Isis then freedom fighters was the term he used now they are the biggest threat to our way of life since the nazis

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"Isis plans to get into Italy and then Spain their beliefs are this will lead to a final showdown with the west when their god will ressurect and Muslims will rule the earth bunch of nutters religion and money are the two biggest evils.when the war first started in Syria what did Obama call Isis then freedom fighters was the term he used now they are the biggest threat to our way of life since the nazis"

well that's just the typically naive western policy model, esp from the yanks. They'll side with the ones who stand against a regime they'd like to see ejected but not think any further than that objective.

Tribal areas such as the middle east have never worked with a standard democratic political model, tends to need a strong leader to hold the country together, that's typically gonna be a dictator

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Isis plans to get into Italy and then Spain their beliefs are this will lead to a final showdown with the west when their god will ressurect and Muslims will rule the earth bunch of nutters religion and money are the two biggest evils.when the war first started in Syria what did Obama call Isis then freedom fighters was the term he used now they are the biggest threat to our way of life since the nazis

well that's just the typically naive western policy model, esp from the yanks. They'll side with the ones who stand against a regime they'd like to see ejected but not think any further than that objective.

Tribal areas such as the middle east have never worked with a standard democratic political model, tends to need a strong leader to hold the country together, that's typically gonna be a dictator"

which is why I think the west learned its lesson by removing Hussain and Gadaffi Libya and Iraq fell apart Syria they stayed away from apart from arming and training isis

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though."

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas, why are we allowing this, do we not already have laws? Its not that I'm intolerant in outlook, but the old adage applies, when in Rome... This isn't an islamic nation and the bleeding heart liberals have made things bend too far over the past decades, IMHO

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas, why are we allowing this, do we not already have laws? Its not that I'm intolerant in outlook, but the old adage applies, when in Rome... This isn't an islamic nation and the bleeding heart liberals have made things bend too far over the past decades, IMHO"

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"Isis plans to get into Italy and then Spain their beliefs are this will lead to a final showdown with the west when their god will ressurect and Muslims will rule the earth bunch of nutters religion and money are the two biggest evils.when the war first started in Syria what did Obama call Isis then freedom fighters was the term he used now they are the biggest threat to our way of life since the nazis

well that's just the typically naive western policy model, esp from the yanks. They'll side with the ones who stand against a regime they'd like to see ejected but not think any further than that objective.

Tribal areas such as the middle east have never worked with a standard democratic political model, tends to need a strong leader to hold the country together, that's typically gonna be a dictatorwhich is why I think the west learned its lesson by removing Hussain and Gadaffi Libya and Iraq fell apart Syria they stayed away from apart from arming and training isis"

But that's the thing, the west haven't learned. They will still interfere if they think they can gain some sort of advantage from it, oil in that region. The constant destabilisation in the region has come entirely from western governments, formerly the old guard (UK, France etc) and more lately the immature young kid (US)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Were supposed to live in a multi cultural society bollocks certain parts of Birmingham are no go zones for whites of a night time I'm not racist but these sort of cultures will never get along there beliefs are so different totally different way of life

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By *izzy RascallMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"i would suggest we have a war on terror, but what does war create

Absolutley nothing

war creates terror

methinks he was quoting the next line of the song..."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas"

Where? Is it official and documented?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Isis plans to get into Italy and then Spain their beliefs are this will lead to a final showdown with the west when their god will ressurect and Muslims will rule the earth bunch of nutters religion and money are the two biggest evils.when the war first started in Syria what did Obama call Isis then freedom fighters was the term he used now they are the biggest threat to our way of life since the nazis

well that's just the typically naive western policy model, esp from the yanks. They'll side with the ones who stand against a regime they'd like to see ejected but not think any further than that objective.

Tribal areas such as the middle east have never worked with a standard democratic political model, tends to need a strong leader to hold the country together, that's typically gonna be a dictatorwhich is why I think the west learned its lesson by removing Hussain and Gadaffi Libya and Iraq fell apart Syria they stayed away from apart from arming and training isis

But that's the thing, the west haven't learned. They will still interfere if they think they can gain some sort of advantage from it, oil in that region. The constant destabilisation in the region has come entirely from western governments, formerly the old guard (UK, France etc) and more lately the immature young kid (US)"

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"Were supposed to live in a multi cultural society bollocks certain parts of Birmingham are no go zones for whites of a night time I'm not racist but these sort of cultures will never get along there beliefs are so different totally different way of life"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If the politicians actually got off their arses instead of sitting in their massive houses supping pimms they might see the difference on the streets

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?"

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"If the politicians actually got off their arses instead of sitting in their massive houses supping pimms they might see the difference on the streets"

There's also the issue of military advisors who in some countries will almost always was to go in, the yanks love to show off their whizzy toys that go bang.

I was astounded a few nights back when some UK bod was talking about precision bombing, how it is so accurate etc. I doubt the families of those killed and injured as collateral damage would agree.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If the politicians actually got off their arses instead of sitting in their massive houses supping pimms they might see the difference on the streets

There's also the issue of military advisors who in some countries will almost always was to go in, the yanks love to show off their whizzy toys that go bang.

I was astounded a few nights back when some UK bod was talking about precision bombing, how it is so accurate etc. I doubt the families of those killed and injured as collateral damage would agree."

that's the cost of war its always the innocent ones who get hurt bombs today are more precise than the old carpet bombing raids in the world wars was it Dresden that got completely flattened

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply. "

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

But I do truly believe to beat the threat from Isis is for boots on the ground not led by the American gung ho attitude though and not just the armies from the west but from the muslim nations who say they are opposed to Isis but do very little to combat them

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Were supposed to live in a multi cultural society bollocks certain parts of Birmingham are no go zones for whites of a night time I'm not racist but these sort of cultures will never get along there beliefs are so different totally different way of life"

good job we dont have any white right wing extremists eh..

oh..

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By *izzy RascallMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"But I do truly believe to beat the threat from Isis is for boots on the ground not led by the American gung ho attitude though and not just the armies from the west but from the muslim nations who say they are opposed to Isis but do very little to combat them"

Turkey on its own could do it but I reckon they have made a deal.

Dont come over here doing your nasty shit and we wont come over and start fucking you up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority."

its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"But I do truly believe to beat the threat from Isis is for boots on the ground not led by the American gung ho attitude though and not just the armies from the west but from the muslim nations who say they are opposed to Isis but do very little to combat them"

there are several 'muslim countries' actively engaged as we discuss this..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"But I do truly believe to beat the threat from Isis is for boots on the ground not led by the American gung ho attitude though and not just the armies from the west but from the muslim nations who say they are opposed to Isis but do very little to combat them

Turkey on its own could do it but I reckon they have made a deal.

Dont come over here doing your nasty shit and we wont come over and start fucking you up"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs "

are you ignorant ?

how many other cultures and religions do the same and have done the same for hundreds of years in this country..?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"But I do truly believe to beat the threat from Isis is for boots on the ground not led by the American gung ho attitude though and not just the armies from the west but from the muslim nations who say they are opposed to Isis but do very little to combat them

there are several 'muslim countries' actively engaged as we discuss this.."

yeah but flying the odd sorted in a plane doing 1500mph dropping a few bombs will have very little affect if every nation put 20000+ boots on the ground the Isis fighters would start to get doubts when they saw what they were facing bombing raids will only do soo much and they are the main cause of civillian life being lost

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

are you ignorant ?

how many other cultures and religions do the same and have done the same for hundreds of years in this country..?

"

like who for example?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs "

You're just throwing words out now 'virtually every Asian community'? Sure, Coventry has a huge Asian community, to the point where in some areas it's like someone has taken a chunk out of another country altogether and plonked it in the city, you can't hear a single word of English being spoken in the streets, yet if any of these people were to break the law, British law, then they would be tried and convicted by the laws of the land, and rightfully so.

If there ever was a genuine threat of the evil, archaic practice of Sharia law being officially implemented in this, my country, my home, then I would join with whichever groups were ready and willing to fight back and resist it readily, but until then, I refuse to be drawn into a racist witch hunt.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

You're just throwing words out now 'virtually every Asian community'? Sure, Coventry has a huge Asian community, to the point where in some areas it's like someone has taken a chunk out of another country altogether and plonked it in the city, you can't hear a single word of English being spoken in the streets, yet if any of these people were to break the law, British law, then they would be tried and convicted by the laws of the land, and rightfully so.

If there ever was a genuine threat of the evil, archaic practice of Sharia law being officially implemented in this, my country, my home, then I would join with whichever groups were ready and willing to fight back and resist it readily, but until then, I refuse to be drawn into a racist witch hunt."

how is it racist I have Asian nieces and nephews so I'm far from racist but alum rock in Birmingham go there of a night time and walk around the EDL bottled out of marching through there 3 times the police only go there in numbers its a totally different world Isis flags in windows that's half a mile from where I live

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

are you ignorant ?

how many other cultures and religions do the same and have done the same for hundreds of years in this country..?

like who for example?"

Christians and those of the Jewish faith off the top of my head, both have had functioning courts to sort issues alongside the legal system for hundreds of years..

surprised you wouldn't know that if your being objective about 'courts' and 'laws'..?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

If there ever was a genuine threat of the evil, archaic practice of Sharia law being officially implemented in this, my country, my home, then I would join with whichever groups were ready and willing to fight back and resist it readily, but until then, I refuse to be drawn into a racist witch hunt."

this..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

are you ignorant ?

how many other cultures and religions do the same and have done the same for hundreds of years in this country..?

like who for example?

Christians and those of the Jewish faith off the top of my head, both have had functioning courts to sort issues alongside the legal system for hundreds of years..

surprised you wouldn't know that if your being objective about 'courts' and 'laws'..?"

Which Christians have separate courts?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

You're just throwing words out now 'virtually every Asian community'? Sure, Coventry has a huge Asian community, to the point where in some areas it's like someone has taken a chunk out of another country altogether and plonked it in the city, you can't hear a single word of English being spoken in the streets, yet if any of these people were to break the law, British law, then they would be tried and convicted by the laws of the land, and rightfully so.

If there ever was a genuine threat of the evil, archaic practice of Sharia law being officially implemented in this, my country, my home, then I would join with whichever groups were ready and willing to fight back and resist it readily, but until then, I refuse to be drawn into a racist witch hunt.how is it racist I have Asian nieces and nephews so I'm far from racist but alum rock in Birmingham go there of a night time and walk around the EDL bottled out of marching through there 3 times the police only go there in numbers its a totally different world Isis flags in windows that's half a mile from where I live"

Then the issue is with the authorities such as the police and the government not doing their jobs properly, not with the Asian community as a whole.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

You're just throwing words out now 'virtually every Asian community'? Sure, Coventry has a huge Asian community, to the point where in some areas it's like someone has taken a chunk out of another country altogether and plonked it in the city, you can't hear a single word of English being spoken in the streets, yet if any of these people were to break the law, British law, then they would be tried and convicted by the laws of the land, and rightfully so.

If there ever was a genuine threat of the evil, archaic practice of Sharia law being officially implemented in this, my country, my home, then I would join with whichever groups were ready and willing to fight back and resist it readily, but until then, I refuse to be drawn into a racist witch hunt.how is it racist I have Asian nieces and nephews so I'm far from racist but alum rock in Birmingham go there of a night time and walk around the EDL bottled out of marching through there 3 times the police only go there in numbers its a totally different world Isis flags in windows that's half a mile from where I live"

all I'm stating is my belief that multi cultural societies do not work religion is the biggest evil look through history and tell me how many wars were started by something other than religion or money different beliefs don't get along history has proven that

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

are you ignorant ?

how many other cultures and religions do the same and have done the same for hundreds of years in this country..?

like who for example?

Christians and those of the Jewish faith off the top of my head, both have had functioning courts to sort issues alongside the legal system for hundreds of years..

surprised you wouldn't know that if your being objective about 'courts' and 'laws'..?

Which Christians have separate courts? "

apologies, i meant canon law..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

You're just throwing words out now 'virtually every Asian community'? Sure, Coventry has a huge Asian community, to the point where in some areas it's like someone has taken a chunk out of another country altogether and plonked it in the city, you can't hear a single word of English being spoken in the streets, yet if any of these people were to break the law, British law, then they would be tried and convicted by the laws of the land, and rightfully so.

If there ever was a genuine threat of the evil, archaic practice of Sharia law being officially implemented in this, my country, my home, then I would join with whichever groups were ready and willing to fight back and resist it readily, but until then, I refuse to be drawn into a racist witch hunt."

.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10716844/Islamic-law-is-adopted-by-British-legal-chiefs.html...

Now sign here.......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

"

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

You're just throwing words out now 'virtually every Asian community'? Sure, Coventry has a huge Asian community, to the point where in some areas it's like someone has taken a chunk out of another country altogether and plonked it in the city, you can't hear a single word of English being spoken in the streets, yet if any of these people were to break the law, British law, then they would be tried and convicted by the laws of the land, and rightfully so.

If there ever was a genuine threat of the evil, archaic practice of Sharia law being officially implemented in this, my country, my home, then I would join with whichever groups were ready and willing to fight back and resist it readily, but until then, I refuse to be drawn into a racist witch hunt.how is it racist I have Asian nieces and nephews so I'm far from racist but alum rock in Birmingham go there of a night time and walk around the EDL bottled out of marching through there 3 times the police only go there in numbers its a totally different world Isis flags in windows that's half a mile from where I live

Then the issue is with the authorities such as the police and the government not doing their jobs properly, not with the Asian community as a whole."

I agree but in the near future what will happen when the Muslims out number us and they want their own laws do you really believe that what happened in Libya and Iraq cant happen over here because were a civilised country think again our military shrinks by the day our ability to defend ourselves shrinks Isis started with a few lunatics look how quick it grew we have enough loons over here already what's to say it wont grow over here

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


" my belief that multi cultural societies do not work religion is the biggest evil look through history and tell me how many wars were started by something other than religion or money different beliefs don't get along history has proven that"

it plainly does in many countries in the world and has done for hundreds of years..

think youll find if you care to look that power, oil and expansionism and other reasons apart from religion have started a few wars historically..

the crusades was religious yes..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do understand people's frustrations, these actions are abhorrent and of course hugely sad. I always get curious why people don't care much for what's not in the news, there's thousands dying away from ISIS, and plenty of things on our doorstep that's sad or human inflicted.

ISIS are definitely a genuine danger, there time of favour will dissipate I think though.

problem is that while their time may pass, the onward march won't. Sharia is already being practised here in some areas

Where? Is it official and documented?

google it. 1996 arbitration act. Problem is communities are practising it and people are coerced to comply.

I'm not the one making the claim, it's not my responsibility to research into it. I want examples of where Sharia law has been officially installed in the UK, and acknowledged as genuine authority.its in virtually every Asian community yes they might abide by some of our laws but they follow their own beliefs

You're just throwing words out now 'virtually every Asian community'? Sure, Coventry has a huge Asian community, to the point where in some areas it's like someone has taken a chunk out of another country altogether and plonked it in the city, you can't hear a single word of English being spoken in the streets, yet if any of these people were to break the law, British law, then they would be tried and convicted by the laws of the land, and rightfully so.

If there ever was a genuine threat of the evil, archaic practice of Sharia law being officially implemented in this, my country, my home, then I would join with whichever groups were ready and willing to fight back and resist it readily, but until then, I refuse to be drawn into a racist witch hunt..http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10716844/Islamic-law-is-adopted-by-British-legal-chiefs.html...

Now sign here......."

'Sorry, we cannot find the page you are looking for'...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I used to believe North Korea was a third world country until I actually went there,and I also used to think most people in Colombia were involved in drug cartels..,til I went there...smh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison. "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison. "

think i'd rather do time than have to kneel down and do that again..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison.

think i'd rather do time than have to kneel down and do that again.. "

I'm glad I'm not religious

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison.

think i'd rather do time than have to kneel down and do that again.. I'm glad I'm not religious "

nor i..

well not since 1971 when i was expelled from the choir for asking awkward questions..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison.

think i'd rather do time than have to kneel down and do that again.. I'm glad I'm not religious

nor i..

well not since 1971 when i was expelled from the choir for asking awkward questions..

"

lol now I'm curious what sort of questions?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison.

think i'd rather do time than have to kneel down and do that again.. I'm glad I'm not religious

nor i..

well not since 1971 when i was expelled from the choir for asking awkward questions..

lol now I'm curious what sort of questions? "

how was it possible that a virgin gave birth didn't go down too well for starters..

the head nun tried to castigate my mum for an 11 yr old knowing about such things..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

On this morning they were discussing plans that the SAS are going there. Why do we need to know this, we don't, just do it. It's the same both sides, if they post a video it needs to be removed and not shown or reported. They've done enough to show is that they are evil and bombing them or destroying them in whatever way is justified. Just don't tell us or report about the military action they're going to take, just do it and we'll know about if later. Why pre warn them what our plan of attack is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison.

think i'd rather do time than have to kneel down and do that again.. I'm glad I'm not religious

nor i..

well not since 1971 when i was expelled from the choir for asking awkward questions..

lol now I'm curious what sort of questions?

how was it possible that a virgin gave birth didn't go down too well for starters..

the head nun tried to castigate my mum for an 11 yr old knowing about such things..

"

I always fuck my great nan up by asking her why dinosaurs don't get a mention in the bible.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison.

think i'd rather do time than have to kneel down and do that again.. I'm glad I'm not religious

nor i..

well not since 1971 when i was expelled from the choir for asking awkward questions..

lol now I'm curious what sort of questions?

how was it possible that a virgin gave birth didn't go down too well for starters..

the head nun tried to castigate my mum for an 11 yr old knowing about such things..

I always fuck my great nan up by asking her why dinosaurs don't get a mention in the bible. "

it was an honest 11 year old question lol I think I was playing with my star wars toys at 11

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"On this morning they were discussing plans that the SAS are going there. Why do we need to know this, we don't, just do it. It's the same both sides, if they post a video it needs to be removed and not shown or reported. They've done enough to show is that they are evil and bombing them or destroying them in whatever way is justified. Just don't tell us or report about the military action they're going to take, just do it and we'll know about if later. Why pre warn them what our plan of attack is. "

whenever 'news' like this comes out you can pretty much guarantee that there will have been eyes on the ground for a while..

would certainly expect it ..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison.

think i'd rather do time than have to kneel down and do that again.. I'm glad I'm not religious

nor i..

well not since 1971 when i was expelled from the choir for asking awkward questions..

lol now I'm curious what sort of questions?

how was it possible that a virgin gave birth didn't go down too well for starters..

the head nun tried to castigate my mum for an 11 yr old knowing about such things..

I always fuck my great nan up by asking her why dinosaurs don't get a mention in the bible. it was an honest 11 year old question lol I think I was playing with my star wars toys at 11 "

star wars..?

you were posh..

i had asked my mum about where babies come from and she bless her would always answer honestly..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Which Christians have separate courts?

apologies, i meant canon law..

Ah gotcha. Thought I missed something. Was hoping to go to a special Catholic court for Catholic people where the sentence would be in multiples of Hail Marys rather than prison.

think i'd rather do time than have to kneel down and do that again.. I'm glad I'm not religious

nor i..

well not since 1971 when i was expelled from the choir for asking awkward questions..

lol now I'm curious what sort of questions?

how was it possible that a virgin gave birth didn't go down too well for starters..

the head nun tried to castigate my mum for an 11 yr old knowing about such things..

I always fuck my great nan up by asking her why dinosaurs don't get a mention in the bible. it was an honest 11 year old question lol I think I was playing with my star wars toys at 11

star wars..?

you were posh..

i had asked my mum about where babies come from and she bless her would always answer honestly.."

I didn't pay attention to the girls in school until their boobs started growing lol happy memories a grope for a mars bar

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By *aughtyinguMan  over a year ago

swindon

If you look at afganistan and Iraq, we aren't prepared to out last them, and those that live there cant trust us, we abandoned our translators in Afghanistan, ruined Iraq, and wont do much to help Syrians. But we support the oppresive Bahrain and Saudi governments. Alot of issues stem from our map drawing many years ago too..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"On this morning they were discussing plans that the SAS are going there. Why do we need to know this, we don't, just do it. It's the same both sides, if they post a video it needs to be removed and not shown or reported. They've done enough to show is that they are evil and bombing them or destroying them in whatever way is justified. Just don't tell us or report about the military action they're going to take, just do it and we'll know about if later. Why pre warn them what our plan of attack is. "

I don't believe they'd be that silly, despite the almost constant incompetence of the past.

They'll only let us know what they don't mind IS knowing!

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West

Fighting a war against an ideology is just not going to work.

The only way to defeat the threat from radicalists is to render them impotent through the media.

At one time, the greatest scientists and minds in the world were Islamic scholars. Unfortunately, as the world and science has evolved it has evolved to an extent that Islamic scholars have reached a point where they can no longer ask questions because the questions undermine the religion.

A very clever media campaign needs to be brought into play that completely ridicules the fundamental beliefs of the radicals and thus makes their ideology laughable to their peers as opposed to how it is at the moment with young Muslims looking for an identity.

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By *ordonBennettMan  over a year ago

dover


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

what do you suggest?

You know...something! "

Oh yeah.....something....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fighting a war against an ideology is just not going to work.

The only way to defeat the threat from radicalists is to render them impotent through the media.

At one time, the greatest scientists and minds in the world were Islamic scholars. Unfortunately, as the world and science has evolved it has evolved to an extent that Islamic scholars have reached a point where they can no longer ask questions because the questions undermine the religion.

A very clever media campaign needs to be brought into play that completely ridicules the fundamental beliefs of the radicals and thus makes their ideology laughable to their peers as opposed to how it is at the moment with young Muslims looking for an identity."

This, cuz laughable is what it is

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"On this morning they were discussing plans that the SAS are going there. Why do we need to know this, we don't, just do it. It's the same both sides, if they post a video it needs to be removed and not shown or reported. They've done enough to show is that they are evil and bombing them or destroying them in whatever way is justified. Just don't tell us or report about the military action they're going to take, just do it and we'll know about if later. Why pre warn them what our plan of attack is. "

"Planning" Is code for "we've been there a while but we think you're about to find out about it soon"

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it. "

What is your source for this information ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

What is your source for this information ?"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

What is your source for this information ?

"

Thumbs up to granny's comment

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"On this morning they were discussing plans that the SAS are going there. Why do we need to know this, we don't, just do it. It's the same both sides, if they post a video it needs to be removed and not shown or reported. They've done enough to show is that they are evil and bombing them or destroying them in whatever way is justified. Just don't tell us or report about the military action they're going to take, just do it and we'll know about if later. Why pre warn them what our plan of attack is.

"Planning" Is code for "we've been there a while but we think you're about to find out about it soon""

Shhsss don't tell anyone..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I hadn't noticed that this thread was a day old.

As the O.P. dropped it and left it and no one has sourced it, I'm viewing it as a piece of propaganda in itself.

I'll go as far as to say it's hate inducing.

If there is any REAL evidence I'll retract. Until then I can't find any.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hadn't noticed that this thread was a day old.

As the O.P. dropped it and left it and no one has sourced it, I'm viewing it as a piece of propaganda in itself.

I'll go as far as to say it's hate inducing.

If there is any REAL evidence I'll retract. Until then I can't find any.

"

These things pop up on social medias repeatedly,all from this twitter account or that..like all news it is just propaganda like you say

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"Fighting a war against an ideology is just not going to work.

The only way to defeat the threat from radicalists is to render them impotent through the media.

At one time, the greatest scientists and minds in the world were Islamic scholars. Unfortunately, as the world and science has evolved it has evolved to an extent that Islamic scholars have reached a point where they can no longer ask questions because the questions undermine the religion.

A very clever media campaign needs to be brought into play that completely ridicules the fundamental beliefs of the radicals and thus makes their ideology laughable to their peers as opposed to how it is at the moment with young Muslims looking for an identity.

This, cuz laughable is what it is "

It is laughable to us because our belief in science outweighs our belief in religion. The Radicals know how to use media as a way to inspire their followers and we have not yet sussed out a way to present a campaign on the worlds media that makes those beliefs as ridiculous to them, as they are to us.

A form of media that presents the true facts about what happens when a person detonates themself across forty grid references. That person will be food for forty goats as opposed to be meeting forty virgins and getting a pat on the back from God.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

What is your source for this information ?"

The video is online of the baby thing along with what they've been doing for months and months, decapitating Christian babies and children and putting their heads on poles. They say it's because they're Christian but whatever the reasons there are pictures and videos showing that.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

where

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"where "

Liveleak will usually have the gore.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fighting a war against an ideology is just not going to work.

The only way to defeat the threat from radicalists is to render them impotent through the media.

At one time, the greatest scientists and minds in the world were Islamic scholars. Unfortunately, as the world and science has evolved it has evolved to an extent that Islamic scholars have reached a point where they can no longer ask questions because the questions undermine the religion.

A very clever media campaign needs to be brought into play that completely ridicules the fundamental beliefs of the radicals and thus makes their ideology laughable to their peers as opposed to how it is at the moment with young Muslims looking for an identity."

That worked well for Charlie Hebdo...

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By *obbytupperMan  over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley


"Today blowing up babies for training exercises. Story of a girl that escaped telling her story of being raped while hearing her sister being raped next door and a 10 year old being raped that hung herself after.

Killing anyone that wont accept there way of life. Treating woman like sex slaves and the spoils of war.

I honestly can't take it anymore. It's way beyond something needing done about it.

What is your source for this information ?

The video is online of the baby thing along with what they've been doing for months and months, decapitating Christian babies and children and putting their heads on poles. They say it's because they're Christian but whatever the reasons there are pictures

and videos showing that. "

One wonders why you searched this out?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fighting a war against an ideology is just not going to work.

The only way to defeat the threat from radicalists is to render them impotent through the media.

At one time, the greatest scientists and minds in the world were Islamic scholars. Unfortunately, as the world and science has evolved it has evolved to an extent that Islamic scholars have reached a point where they can no longer ask questions because the questions undermine the religion.

A very clever media campaign needs to be brought into play that completely ridicules the fundamental beliefs of the radicals and thus makes their ideology laughable to their peers as opposed to how it is at the moment with young Muslims looking for an identity.

That worked well for Charlie Hebdo...

"

They published their Mohammed covered issue less than 2 weeks after the murder of their staff. The issue sold out in record time, people were queuing around the block to purchase it.

Who'd think a small satire paper could say such a huge 'Fuck you' to terrorism?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fighting a war against an ideology is just not going to work.

The only way to defeat the threat from radicalists is to render them impotent through the media.

At one time, the greatest scientists and minds in the world were Islamic scholars. Unfortunately, as the world and science has evolved it has evolved to an extent that Islamic scholars have reached a point where they can no longer ask questions because the questions undermine the religion.

A very clever media campaign needs to be brought into play that completely ridicules the fundamental beliefs of the radicals and thus makes their ideology laughable to their peers as opposed to how it is at the moment with young Muslims looking for an identity.

That worked well for Charlie Hebdo...

"

And don't you see that thats what they are afraid of?

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