FabSwingers.com > Forums > The Lounge > British or English??
British or English??
Jump to: Newest in thread
|
By *aeBabe OP Woman
over a year ago
London |
Genuine question here please let's keep it civil:
I'm ethnically Filipino, but was born in London, England so I'm a British citizen. But someone at work said that that made me English. I was confused by her statement and she said if she were born in the Philippines she would be considered filipino even if she were ethnically English.
What is it? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
I always advise folk to check what it says in their passport.
If they don't have one? Just take a rough guess!
A
*oh - and I'm British.
**like Murray when he wins. Any other time he's Scottish! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *aeBabe OP Woman
over a year ago
London |
"Legally speaking, you're a British citizen of Phillippine heritage. Possibly a dual national too?
Calling oneself English is an appeal to the cultural aspects of English-hood. "
I think I talk to you too much |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Tis just another label...
You are who you are "
Unless you fly!
then you are what your passport tells you; you are.
if not, you may just run into one or two problems |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Genuine question here please let's keep it civil:
I'm ethnically Filipino, but was born in London, England so I'm a British citizen. But someone at work said that that made me English. I was confused by her statement and she said if she were born in the Philippines she would be considered filipino even if she were ethnically English.
What is it? "
You were born in the UK and have a British passport , then your British citizen , regardless of color of you or your parents skin .
You weren't born in the UK and have a British passport then the same goes regardless etc
When you were born in England, Wales Northern Ireland or Scotland then you can English , welsh Irish or Scottish . Just like you say Londoner, Geordie , scouser , ferret breeder, etc etc |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I always advise folk to check what it says in their passport.
If they don't have one? Just take a rough guess!
A
*oh - and I'm British.
Lol
**like Murray when he wins. Any other time he's Scottish! " |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Technically speaking, England isn't a 'proper' country. It's part of a sovereign state (The United Kingdom) but is does not come under the same stays as Russia, Spain etc. England is a 'constitutional country'... So it is one, but technically not as it isn't recognised by the international community.
As someone has already said, perhaps take a look at your passport. You may note that there's also no such thing as an' English' embassy in other countries - it's always British. Therefore, in international affairs someone from England should technically count their nationality as British.
Hope that helps in some way? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *aeBabe OP Woman
over a year ago
London |
"one passport is british ...one bulgarian and another south african ...what now ??
But where were you born?
fire it right back at you !! "
Haha I was born in London, England.
I'm not confused with being ethnically Filipino (Philippines) which by the way I'm a dual citizen of, but rather the statement made by my friend that because I was born here it makes me English.
If say a person of European heritage was born here you would call them English or British?
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Haha I was born in London, England.
I'm not confused with being ethnically Filipino (Philippines) which by the way I'm a dual citizen of, but rather the statement made by my friend that because I was born here it makes me English.
If say a person of European heritage was born here you would call them English or British?
"
British for sure |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"one passport is british ...one bulgarian and another south african ...what now ??
But where were you born?
fire it right back at you !!
Haha I was born in London, England.
If say a person of European heritage was born here you would call them English or British?
"
Part of being English is letting people choose for themselves, you tell people what you want them to refer to you as.
As to referring to where you are from, it doesn't matter .
I have a friend who was Indian looking , we were at a cafe, and he bumped into someone by accident , the bloke said, " why don't you fuck off back where you came from" , he replied in a Brummy accent " What you mean like Birmingham "
You choose and tell people what you want |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *aeBabe OP Woman
over a year ago
London |
"one passport is british ...one bulgarian and another south african ...what now ??
But where were you born?
fire it right back at you !!
Haha I was born in London, England.
If say a person of European heritage was born here you would call them English or British?
Part of being English is letting people choose for themselves, you tell people what you want them to refer to you as.
As to referring to where you are from, it doesn't matter .
I have a friend who was Indian looking , we were at a cafe, and he bumped into someone by accident , the bloke said, " why don't you fuck off back where you came from" , he replied in a Brummy accent " What you mean like Birmingham "
You choose and tell people what you want "
Lol that's funny x |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I wasn't born in England but have lived here since I was a small child I have dual citizenship and pass port and have worked all my life in the UK
I suppose that makes me one of those bloody foregners pinching all your jobs |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wasn't born in England but have lived here since I was a small child I have dual citizenship and pass port and have worked all my life in the UK
I suppose that makes me one of those bloody foregners pinching all your jobs "
Bloody immigrant go back to your own country |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I wasn't born in England but have lived here since I was a small child I have dual citizenship and pass port and have worked all my life in the UK
I suppose that makes me one of those bloody foregners pinching all your jobs
Bloody immigrant go back to your own country "
I would but you can't move for asylum seekers at the moment don't you watch the news |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wasn't born in England but have lived here since I was a small child I have dual citizenship and pass port and have worked all my life in the UK
I suppose that makes me one of those bloody foregners pinching all your jobs
Bloody immigrant go back to your own country
I would but you can't move for asylum seekers at the moment don't you watch the news "
Send them all to the tilted barrel |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I wasn't born in England but have lived here since I was a small child I have dual citizenship and pass port and have worked all my life in the UK
I suppose that makes me one of those bloody foregners pinching all your jobs
Bloody immigrant go back to your own country
I would but you can't move for asylum seekers at the moment don't you watch the news
Send them all to the tilted barrel "
give them a few weeks and they'll have made their way there |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I class myself as British. Born in England, live in England, English and Welsh parents.
I can't be arsed with all that Jerusalem-singing, Morris-dancing on the village green English nationalism bollocks. My passport says British, the country I fill in on forms is UK. If other bits of the UK decide to remove themselves, I'll still call myself British. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *aeBabe OP Woman
over a year ago
London |
"From where I'm sitting you're English, British with Philipino heritage, do not see the fuss. Have you lived here since birth??
Him"
I was born here and grew up here till I was 14 then lived in the Philippines for 10 years, hence a dual citizenship.
Not a fuss, just a question... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"From where I'm sitting you're English, British with Philipino heritage, do not see the fuss. Have you lived here since birth??
Him
I was born here and grew up here till I was 14 then lived in the Philippines for 10 years, hence a dual citizenship.
Not a fuss, just a question... " if you was born and bred in England then you are english |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago
Catthorpe |
"From where I'm sitting you're English, British with Philipino heritage, do not see the fuss. Have you lived here since birth??
Him
I was born here and grew up here till I was 14 then lived in the Philippines for 10 years, hence a dual citizenship.
Not a fuss, just a question... "
Fellow Englander.. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
scottish...despite being born belizian..I had some young twat try to make fun of me last week on the bus, he shouted "are U
Somalian?!"(with an accent)..
I'd overheard him and his mates ages(early 20's)..I said.."WTF...I've been scottish almost twice as long as you have!"
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I consider myself European, I don't buy into the whole blame and fear forigners bulshit so I'm distancing myself from British nationalism lol don't hate me |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Genuine question here please let's keep it civil:
I'm ethnically Filipino, but was born in London, England so I'm a British citizen. But someone at work said that that made me English. I was confused by her statement and she said if she were born in the Philippines she would be considered filipino even if she were ethnically English.
What is it? "
The nationality is British, it is what's on the passport. There are no 'English' passports as English is an ethnicity. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Genuine question here please let's keep it civil:
I'm ethnically Filipino, but was born in London, England so I'm a British citizen. But someone at work said that that made me English. I was confused by her statement and she said if she were born in the Philippines she would be considered filipino even if she were ethnically English.
What is it?
The nationality is British, it is what's on the passport. There are no 'English' passports as English is an ethnicity."
ethnicity? ????????? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
English is an ethnic race along the same lines as Indian is.
Indian is also a nationality as well as an ethnicity. English is just an ethnicity, the nationality is British.
Of course some uneducated people view this is as some form of racism, well please yourself, fill your boots, show some outrage etc whatever floats your boat, at the end of the day it's a real life fact. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"If say a person of European heritage was born here you would call them English or British?
"
I am of Welsh heritage, born in an african county that no longer exists. I consider myself more Welsh than British. But at the end of the day my passport says I'm British and I'm happy with that. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
The credit for this goes to someone else but I like it.........
Being British is about wearing an italian suit while , driving in a German car to an Irish pub for a Belgian beer, then travelling home, grabbing an Indian curry or a Turkish kebab on the way, to sit on Swedish furniture and watch American shows on a Japanese TV. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"You are what you feel.
Just because a donkey is born in a stable that doesn't make it a horse. "
Does this apply to the baby jesus
As andy says ...... I love the baby jesus ..... ( little Britain ) |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"English is an ethnic race along the same lines as Indian is.
Indian is also a nationality as well as an ethnicity. English is just an ethnicity, the nationality is British.
Of course some uneducated people view this is as some form of racism, well please yourself, fill your boots, show some outrage etc whatever floats your boat, at the end of the day it's a real life fact. "
english is not a race ffs.
Cau•ca•sian (k?'ke? ??n, -??n, -'kæ? ?n, -'kæ?-)
adj. Also, Cau•cas•ic (k?'kæs ?k, -'kæz-)
1. of, designating, or characteristic of one of the traditional racial divisions of humankind, marked by fair to dark skin, straight to curly hair, and light to very dark eyes and orig. inhabiting Europe, parts of North Africa, W Asia, and India.
2. of the Caucasus region, its peoples, or their culture.
3. of or designating the non-Indo-European, non-Turkic languages spoken by the indigenous peoples of the Caucasus and adjacent areas.
n.
4. a person having Caucasian physical characteristics.
5. a native or inhabitant of the Caucasus. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I've always used the term English and it seemed to be a commonly used description during my childhood (as I was born and bred in England).
Said I was English all through growing up and then all of a sudden people started "correcting" me and some even claimed it was racist?...
- Amy. x |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Whatever, it's a pointless discussion anyway, as it changes nothing about anything. Just the usual types having the usual pointless discussion about something that ultimately doesn't even matter. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Whatever, it's a pointless discussion anyway, as it changes nothing about anything. Just the usual types having the usual pointless discussion about something that ultimately doesn't even matter."
when you claim its a real life fact...thats what matters..when in fact it was utter shit...and you have also basically said anyone who disputes your fact is uneducated... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I'm half Danish and half British I define myself as a good bit of bacon "
Technically, the Danes & the English are one ethnicity-or as near as makes no difference!
During a spin off from the human genome project Dr Robin McKie did a genetic survey of the white British population & found that it was possible to identify the Celtic genes, the Norwegian genes etc but that the genes of the Anglo-Saxon & Danes where almost indistinguishable from each other. The Angles/Saxons/Jutes/Danes all came from the same part of Europe after all! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"You are what you feel.
Just because a donkey is born in a stable that doesn't make it a horse. "
what if the donkey feels like a horse ? then one of your quotes doesnt add up ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ummersun99Woman
over a year ago
North Yorkshire by the Sea |
"You are what you feel.
Just because a donkey is born in a stable that doesn't make it a horse.
what if the donkey feels like a horse ? then one of your quotes doesnt add up ? "
Then it can be a horse but the point is, it doesn't have to be one, just because of where its born! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Genuine question here please let's keep it civil:
I'm ethnically Filipino, but was born in London, England so I'm a British citizen. But someone at work said that that made me English. I was confused by her statement and she said if she were born in the Philippines she would be considered filipino even if she were ethnically English.
What is it? "
I'm not 100% sure but I don't think anyone can put English nationality anymore. British is the correct term. You could possibly qualify for dual nationality due to your parents. As far as I'm concerned your as English or British as me as you were born in London.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I class myself as British. Born in England, live in England, English and Welsh parents.
I can't be arsed with all that Jerusalem-singing, Morris-dancing on the village green English nationalism bollocks. My passport says British, the country I fill in on forms is UK. If other bits of the UK decide to remove themselves, I'll still call myself British. "
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"You are what you feel.
Just because a donkey is born in a stable that doesn't make it a horse.
My dad used to say that
It was/is a popular Irish saying. Was your Dad one of us? Lol. "
No we are from sicily when my parents came over there was me and my two sisters my brother was born in England after we moved but my dad was adamant he wasn't English just because he was born here, he says your nationality is where your roots are not where you are born |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
If it helps any, the last Census (2011)allowed for multiple "nationalities". Maybe that explains the rampant increase in population?
Whilst technically British, i was born in England and am thus English.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic