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Shows like this have been rigged before but caught out and heavily fined for doing so.So dont think they can get away with it. Wagner out this sunday please. |
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Not fixed, but social engineering in the reactions from judges, how the people are presented, the editing of the things like 'this weeks rehearsals' all conspire to allow manipulation.
Want to be on TV, just post videos online of yourself having sex and millions will watch if they are any good. |
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"Not fixed, but social engineering in the reactions from judges, how the people are presented, the editing of the things like 'this weeks rehearsals' all conspire to allow manipulation.
Want to be on TV, just post videos online of yourself having sex and millions will watch if they are any good."
I agree partially, the editing of the participants is just manipulation so it is fixed in some ways, I never watch the programme after the auditions which are the best bit for me  |
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"Not fixed, but social engineering in the reactions from judges, how the people are presented, the editing of the things like 'this weeks rehearsals' all conspire to allow manipulation.
Want to be on TV, just post videos online of yourself having sex and millions will watch if they are any good."
Very clever manipulation
Those that the judges know will get through with no problem and they want through - get to open the show. Those that they want to get through are put on at strategic moments - just before the add break so you talk about the judges comments, or the last act - so fresh in your mind for the voting
And they do talk up the ones they want through.
The " Im not sending either girl home" act by Cheryl has been exposed as being organised during the ad break as soon as it was realised two of her acts were going to sing off, If it had gone to tie break and then the phone votes counted same as last year with Jedward, then Tracy would have still been in and that other daft bint would have gone
But the daft bint sells papers and makes "good " tv |
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"Not fixed, but social engineering in the reactions from judges, how the people are presented, the editing of the things like 'this weeks rehearsals' all conspire to allow manipulation.
Want to be on TV, just post videos online of yourself having sex and millions will watch if they are any good.
Very clever manipulation
Those that the judges know will get through with no problem and they want through - get to open the show. Those that they want to get through are put on at strategic moments - just before the add break so you talk about the judges comments, or the last act - so fresh in your mind for the voting
And they do talk up the ones they want through.
The " Im not sending either girl home" act by Cheryl has been exposed as being organised during the ad break as soon as it was realised two of her acts were going to sing off, If it had gone to tie break and then the phone votes counted same as last year with Jedward, then Tracy would have still been in and that other daft bint would have gone
But the daft bint sells papers and makes "good " tv"
yes i think your right xxx |
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" Remember Bullseye, they could never get rid of that bloody caravan! Lol god yes sure it was there to make it look posh , lol
Wonder if they ever got rid of the speed boat as well! Lol "
...both are slowly mouldering away in my back garden!  |
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anything that involves the public paying a high cost phone line to vote will be manipulated for the ratings.
if someone popular with the shows producers and a ratings winner they will not be removed.
i never ring in to vote and do not watch any of these reality programmes.
most of the people are not stars in the first place.
all these programmes show is that in this country we have a section of people who are quite frankly beyond the pale.  |
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"you dont think simon has 100s people on the phone calling in for wagner , lol thats why he is still there .."
There are many sites promoting voting for Wagner. They are doing it because they don't like the show and keeping him in makes a mockery of it. The voting is manipulated but i dont think by the show's makers. |
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what would be stoping a person like simon worth loads of money having people call in, maybe he would never do this but if he had 100s doing it could swing the voting on shows like this. |
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" what would be stoping a person like simon worth loads of money having people call in, maybe he would never do this but if he had 100s doing it could swing the voting on shows like this."
I can quite believe Simon is a "Swinger"
Me Tarzan, You Jane! Lol |
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"anything that involves the public paying a high cost phone line to vote will be manipulated for the ratings.
if someone popular with the shows producers and a ratings winner they will not be removed.
i never ring in to vote and do not watch any of these reality programmes.
most of the people are not stars in the first place.
all these programmes show is that in this country we have a section of people who are quite frankly beyond the pale. "
Yes very true, at the end of the day its cheap telly!  |
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Yes but in the past years talent has won through ie leona and the lovely alexandra so it is a good show case for talent x factor is definately a money maker from phone votes and x factor tour and quite a few that have'nt won have gone on to record contracts and other deals I love seeing them at butlins every year. |
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"you dont think simon has 100s people on the phone calling in for wagner , lol thats why he is still there ..
There are many sites promoting voting for Wagner. They are doing it because they don't like the show and keeping him in makes a mockery of it. The voting is manipulated but i dont think by the show's makers."
Yeah but it's a mockery of the show that he got put through in the first place!  |
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Of course the X Factor is fixed..believe me nothing on TV is how you see it...Cheryl Coles '''im not voting''' charade was pre-arranged during the break..they were obviously under orders to keep Katie in and dump Tracy...sorry..Treyc even though she had three times more votes..and the better singer imo...thats why Dermot went straight to Cheryl before asking the other two...even though he knew who they were going to pick.. |
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"Of course the X Factor is fixed..believe me nothing on TV is how you see it...Cheryl Coles '''im not voting''' charade was pre-arranged during the break..they were obviously under orders to keep Katie in and dump Tracy...sorry..Treyc even though she had three times more votes..and the better singer imo...thats why Dermot went straight to Cheryl before asking the other two...even though he knew who they were going to pick.."
yes i did think that was bad she should have been made to vote as thats what the shows about them picking best ones. |
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Mmmm Phone voting? Cant see the point of that..... Most of the reality shows etc dont get onto our TV.... If you want reality go and live your life!! As for the Phone vote shows, they are just there to line certain peoples pockets.............. |
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"Mmmm Phone voting? Cant see the point of that..... Most of the reality shows etc dont get onto our TV.... If you want reality go and live your life!! As for the Phone vote shows, they are just there to line certain peoples pockets.............. "
Ture i dont vote .... i like shows like this to find new people who can sing but yes lots are lining there pockets. |
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everything that involve money or power are open to 'fixing' 'corruption'or 'bending of rules'
people are not always totally honest.
who knew?
If I give a quote for a job and can undercut others because someone has told me what they quoted, is that cheating or astute business practise.
people do it to me ,so i do it to them
'Post hoc ergo propter hoc'
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"Do you think shows like xfactor ones where people vote are fixed even if thay call in pay pounds for calls to vote ?"
Nmy mates sister was on last year and got to the judges house. She sang great but was not picked, people from Peterborough will know her her name is Nicole, chatting to her she reckons they had made there minds up already on who they wanted,
Phone call wise I'm not sure as ofcom would step in. But wagner is getting the votes some how. |
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but is wagner 'not' getting votes and being kept in by cowell to keep it in the papaers or are people voting for wagner en masse in an attempt to subvert the whole programme.
let's say wagner wins because of a concerted effort by the public. would that constitute a 'fix'. and who profits from all the votes cast for wagner?
cowell must be quaking in his boots,
the public get what they want and cowell rakes it in.
rage against the machine kept the x factor winner from the number one spot last xmas
the record labels of RATM and joe whateverhisnamewas are both subsideries of sony.
so a protest download resulted in the same profit sony was expecting had the rage song not been bought |
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Is it possible to influence the results… I would say it is,,,, Simply by manipulating the allocation of contestants song choice and musical arraignments,,, their subsequent performing slot within the shows airing timetable. The subjective choice of personal styling and grooming to match the artists personality and therefore appeal to his or her natural target audience or demographic. Effective use or misuse of appropriate staging and choreography in relation to that weeks specialist song choice category. Not to mention any careful editing of in-show inter_iews and off screen press releases… But fixing the phone vote,,,, nahhh… and nobody is forced to watch,….or vote |
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"Is it possible to influence the results… I would say it is,,,, Simply by manipulating the allocation of contestants song choice and musical arraignments,,, their subsequent performing slot within the shows airing timetable. The subjective choice of personal styling and grooming to match the artists personality and therefore appeal to his or her natural target audience or demographic. Effective use or misuse of appropriate staging and choreography in relation to that weeks specialist song choice category. Not to mention any careful editing of in-show inter_iews and off screen press releases… But fixing the phone vote,,,, nahhh… and nobody is forced to watch,….or vote "
Dont forget...they also use harmonisers to boost their voices...accept Cheryl Cole...who just mimed anyway..
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"Mmmm Phone voting? Cant see the point of that..... Most of the reality shows etc dont get onto our TV.... If you want reality go and live your life!! As for the Phone vote shows, they are just there to line certain peoples pockets.............. Ture i dont vote .... i like shows like this to find new people who can sing but yes lots are lining there pockets."
If there was more "Talent" then maybe it would be worth watching but I cringe at the people on at the moment.... Each to their own though  |
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