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By *uby0000 OP Woman
over a year ago
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channel 4 mental health service is in crisis northern Ireland family travel 300 miles to London every week to see their daughter my daughter was sent to Colchester so I was lucky but its dreadful to be so far from your sick kids they should have morep places for them not less |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They've made process in some areas, thank god we no longer have the asylums like we used to. I agree though , that the funding for mental health isn't what it should be. It'll get worse before it gets better. There are cuts everywhere. |
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"They've made process in some areas, thank god we no longer have the asylums like we used to. I agree though , that the funding for mental health isn't what it should be. It'll get worse before it gets better. There are cuts everywhere."
It'll get worse, not better.
Oh, and you missed out the 'n' from 'cuts'. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They've made process in some areas, thank god we no longer have the asylums like we used to. I agree though , that the funding for mental health isn't what it should be. It'll get worse before it gets better. There are cuts everywhere.
It'll get worse, not better.
Oh, and you missed out the 'n' from 'cuts'."
Correct I did miss the n out! Don't you think if we end up with a change of government in the future , they will fund it more ? |
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By *uby0000 OP Woman
over a year ago
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our hospital has closed we have a new hospital but no A E any mental disorders have no place here they are trying to unite all the units to one place .. a step back IMO
my daughter has been sent loads of places furthest was Birmingham shes in a private hospital in Colchester now most of her anxiety stems from wanting to be moved nearer home |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"They've made process in some areas, thank god we no longer have the asylums like we used to. I agree though , that the funding for mental health isn't what it should be. It'll get worse before it gets better. There are cuts everywhere.
It'll get worse, not better.
Oh, and you missed out the 'n' from 'cuts'.
Correct I did miss the n out! Don't you think if we end up with a change of government in the future , they will fund it more ? "
It's unlikely. If you unearth the real costs of treating everyone so that they get better the NHS wouldn't do anything else.
Of course it would save money on the physical ill health caused by the mental ill health but it's easier to treat the physical than the mental.
I was lucky that I got 6 months of NHS therapy. I can't get any more unless I present as a danger to someone else or I have made an attempt to end my own life. I was lucky that I had the savings to pay for on-going therapy. I have no savings left but I feel healthy now. A lot of people won't have that option.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"our hospital has closed we have a new hospital but no A E any mental disorders have no place here they are trying to unite all the units to one place .. a step back IMO
my daughter has been sent loads of places furthest was Birmingham shes in a private hospital in Colchester now most of her anxiety stems from wanting to be moved nearer home "
Do they have mental health triage nurses at your GP's though?ive noticed they seem to have better gateway services than they used to. Is there anywhere closer that can provide the same treatment? I know it must be frustrating for you and for her. |
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By *uby0000 OP Woman
over a year ago
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"our hospital has closed we have a new hospital but no A E any mental disorders have no place here they are trying to unite all the units to one place .. a step back IMO
my daughter has been sent loads of places furthest was Birmingham shes in a private hospital in Colchester now most of her anxiety stems from wanting to be moved nearer home
Do they have mental health triage nurses at your GP's though?ive noticed they seem to have better gateway services than they used to. Is there anywhere closer that can provide the same treatment? I know it must be frustrating for you and for her. "
gps were no help its been years now and hopefully we can get her moved a bit nearer home but im almost scared to get my hopes up |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"our hospital has closed we have a new hospital but no A E any mental disorders have no place here they are trying to unite all the units to one place .. a step back IMO
my daughter has been sent loads of places furthest was Birmingham shes in a private hospital in Colchester now most of her anxiety stems from wanting to be moved nearer home
Do they have mental health triage nurses at your GP's though?ive noticed they seem to have better gateway services than they used to. Is there anywhere closer that can provide the same treatment? I know it must be frustrating for you and for her. "
The problem is that different CCGs will prioritise funding for different things. If you haven't got a well resourced Mental Health Trust a scarce service becomes no service at all.
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Apropos of this convo there was a disturbance this morning at the house on the corner where a mental health guy lives.
Eventually 3 cops cars, one police van and an ambulance turn up.
The cops have this guys - who's mad as a box 'o frogs (I've worked in MH, this is bona fide terminology) - handcuffed, swearing his head off in the back of the van for TWO HOURS.
It's also been the hottest day of the year.
I thought about going out there and suggesting that they either book him or let him go as this shit had been going on for 3 hrs by this point...
A neighbour helpfully pointed out that he had been referred to local MH health services but 'he wasn't deemed in great enough need' so was turned away.
Just rubbish. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Apropos of this convo there was a disturbance this morning at the house on the corner where a mental health guy lives.
Eventually 3 cops cars, one police van and an ambulance turn up.
The cops have this guys - who's mad as a box 'o frogs (I've worked in MH, this is bona fide terminology) - handcuffed, swearing his head off in the back of the van for TWO HOURS.
It's also been the hottest day of the year.
I thought about going out there and suggesting that they either book him or let him go as this shit had been going on for 3 hrs by this point...
A neighbour helpfully pointed out that he had been referred to local MH health services but 'he wasn't deemed in great enough need' so was turned away.
Just rubbish. "
Rubbish and the absolute norm. How many on short stay sentences are just in need of mental health services?
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"Apropos of this convo there was a disturbance this morning at the house on the corner where a mental health guy lives.
Eventually 3 cops cars, one police van and an ambulance turn up.
The cops have this guys - who's mad as a box 'o frogs (I've worked in MH, this is bona fide terminology) - handcuffed, swearing his head off in the back of the van for TWO HOURS.
It's also been the hottest day of the year.
I thought about going out there and suggesting that they either book him or let him go as this shit had been going on for 3 hrs by this point...
A neighbour helpfully pointed out that he had been referred to local MH health services but 'he wasn't deemed in great enough need' so was turned away.
Just rubbish.
Rubbish and the absolute norm. How many on short stay sentences are just in need of mental health services?
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too many sadly, as people either aren't qualified enough to deal with them, or there are no other services/help/resources to help either. |
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"Apropos of this convo there was a disturbance this morning at the house on the corner where a mental health guy lives.
Eventually 3 cops cars, one police van and an ambulance turn up.
The cops have this guys - who's mad as a box 'o frogs (I've worked in MH, this is bona fide terminology) - handcuffed, swearing his head off in the back of the van for TWO HOURS.
It's also been the hottest day of the year.
I thought about going out there and suggesting that they either book him or let him go as this shit had been going on for 3 hrs by this point...
A neighbour helpfully pointed out that he had been referred to local MH health services but 'he wasn't deemed in great enough need' so was turned away.
Just rubbish.
Rubbish and the absolute norm. How many on short stay sentences are just in need of mental health services?
too many sadly, as people either aren't qualified enough to deal with them, or there are no other services/help/resources to help either. "
Exactly - it's like they didn't know what to do with him |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Apropos of this convo there was a disturbance this morning at the house on the corner where a mental health guy lives.
Eventually 3 cops cars, one police van and an ambulance turn up.
The cops have this guys - who's mad as a box 'o frogs (I've worked in MH, this is bona fide terminology) - handcuffed, swearing his head off in the back of the van for TWO HOURS.
It's also been the hottest day of the year.
I thought about going out there and suggesting that they either book him or let him go as this shit had been going on for 3 hrs by this point...
A neighbour helpfully pointed out that he had been referred to local MH health services but 'he wasn't deemed in great enough need' so was turned away.
Just rubbish.
Rubbish and the absolute norm. How many on short stay sentences are just in need of mental health services?
too many sadly, as people either aren't qualified enough to deal with them, or there are no other services/help/resources to help either.
Exactly - it's like they didn't know what to do with him"
Well thats it, they are police officers, not mental health professionals. The government treats the police the same way they treat the armed forces, cut all the services and then if the shit hits the fan the police can deal with or, the military can.  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"And oddly enough, I was wondering how much is costs to treat people in units or the community versus custody.
But hey ho. I'm looking for logic where there is none."
Different departments and different budgets. Never the twain to be compared. Yet every piece of work on criminal justice makes the link to housing and mental health as being key factors in the lives of short stay sentences.
What was the result when prisons were tasked with ensuring that short stayers had somewhere to live when they left custody? They made sure they had a bed in a hostel for one night. Then they become someone else's problem and the whole merry-go-round turns again, usually with an episode similar your neighbourhood issue this morning.
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"And oddly enough, I was wondering how much is costs to treat people in units or the community versus custody.
But hey ho. I'm looking for logic where there is none.
Different departments and different budgets. Never the twain to be compared. Yet every piece of work on criminal justice makes the link to housing and mental health as being key factors in the lives of short stay sentences.
What was the result when prisons were tasked with ensuring that short stayers had somewhere to live when they left custody? They made sure they had a bed in a hostel for one night. Then they become someone else's problem and the whole merry-go-round turns again, usually with an episode similar your neighbourhood issue this morning.
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Do you know what a discharge grant is for prison leavers?
Currently £47 - probs not enough to get you a train ticket home.
I have long experience with the criminal justice system as well as mental health - they whole thing sucks. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"And oddly enough, I was wondering how much is costs to treat people in units or the community versus custody.
But hey ho. I'm looking for logic where there is none.
Different departments and different budgets. Never the twain to be compared. Yet every piece of work on criminal justice makes the link to housing and mental health as being key factors in the lives of short stay sentences.
What was the result when prisons were tasked with ensuring that short stayers had somewhere to live when they left custody? They made sure they had a bed in a hostel for one night. Then they become someone else's problem and the whole merry-go-round turns again, usually with an episode similar your neighbourhood issue this morning.
Do you know what a discharge grant is for prison leavers?
Currently £47 - probs not enough to get you a train ticket home.
I have long experience with the criminal justice system as well as mental health - they whole thing sucks. "
I know. It's almost as if they want the ex-offender to offend again and go back to their old cell.
What's even more bonkers is that if you are released because of a miscarriage of justice you aren't even entitled to that £47 and no probation officer to help with anything.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Anyone know if "throwing money" at the situation would actually change much anyway? How many £bns would have to be spent?
I find slight irony in a TV programme on Mental Health, how much has Television contributed to the causes? 1%, 5%, 20%?
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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Anyone know if "throwing money" at the situation would actually change much anyway? How many £bns would have to be spent?
I find slight irony in a TV programme on Mental Health, how much has Television contributed to the causes? 1%, 5%, 20%?
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Do you mean how much as television given in cash to the causes or how television has contributed to an increase in mental ill health?
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By (user no longer on site)
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Anyone know if "throwing money" at the situation would actually change much anyway? How many £bns would have to be spent?
I find slight irony in a TV programme on Mental Health, how much has Television contributed to the causes? 1%, 5%, 20%?
Do you mean how much as television given in cash to the causes or how television has contributed to an increase in mental ill health?
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The latter.
Two quick thoughts, as in : repeated exposure to such as Eastenders
Self image problems trying to be what TV, and other media, would have you be. |
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