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This a bit of a rant!
On Tuesday I put my money in the poppy appeal collection and got chatting to the WW2 veteran who was in a wheelchair. Who briefly explained what had happened to him. Today when we went to the same Tesco store, the same gentleman ( I mean true gentleman ) was sat outside in the cold with a coat on and blanket over his knees collecting. I put some more money in his tin and asked how come you aren't inside today, like you were on Tuesday? He said they wont let me in! They had put the Christmas tree in the place he was on Tuesday, so there was no room for him.
On numerous occasions electric companies have quite a large stand inside the store, but they can't accommodate a wheelchair bound veteran collecting for the poppy appeal. This is totally unacceptable, veterans should be treated with the upmost respect. If wasn't for them, and all the soldiers who have fought for our country, the world would be a very different place.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Is that in Poole?
That's the most awful thing I've read in a long time.
Society is surely degraded....when we cannot extend respect to one of our troops who is doing a sterling job, collecting for a worthy cause, be he 22 or 102 |
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By *ex.IncCouple
over a year ago
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Agreed, although not on the same scale but Liz went to a call at an old mans house (ex veteran) last winter who had apparently complained of stomach problems and had no family around or friends. His house was freezing and sadly he later died that day in hospital. Upon a post mortem it was found he'd been eating cardboard as he couldnt afford food.
These people are the reason we are here today. Its like help an injured soldier appeal on the tv...we shouldnt have to help them, the government should. Same as great ormand street. |
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"Is that in Poole?
That's the most awful thing I've read in a long time.
Society is surely degraded....when we cannot extend respect to one of our troops who is doing a sterling job, collecting for a worthy cause, be he 22 or 102"
It was the Tower Park store in Poole |
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why should there be a poppy appeal in the first place ?
why cant they provide injured service people with any type of help they need as a matter of course ?
there is even a charity called help the heroes
a hero has to rely on charity , surely thats taking the piss
the money that goes in the charity tin comes from the general public , even if some companys buy a £1000 big poppy to go on the outside of the building , it still in effect comes from the general public as the company adds a few pence on the cost of its wares or services
so why not help the service personel from a fund provided by the government
instead of expecting the heroes to stand outside tesco in the pissing rain |
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"This a bit of a rant!
On Tuesday I put my money in the poppy appeal collection and got chatting to the WW2 veteran who was in a wheelchair. Who briefly explained what had happened to him. Today when we went to the same Tesco store, the same gentleman ( I mean true gentleman ) was sat outside in the cold with a coat on and blanket over his knees collecting. I put some more money in his tin and asked how come you aren't inside today, like you were on Tuesday? He said they wont let me in! They had put the Christmas tree in the place he was on Tuesday, so there was no room for him.
On numerous occasions electric companies have quite a large stand inside the store, but they can't accommodate a wheelchair bound veteran collecting for the poppy appeal. This is totally unacceptable, veterans should be treated with the upmost respect. If wasn't for them, and all the soldiers who have fought for our country, the world would be a very different place.
Shame on you Tesco "
you know where not to shop now dont you?,start sending out letters of complaint or call them!,and get friends and relations to complain too!,these WW2 veterans are the reason we have a freedom of choice over where we can do our shopping. |
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"why should there be a poppy appeal in the first place ?
why cant they provide injured service people with any type of help they need as a matter of course ?
there is even a charity called help the heroes
a hero has to rely on charity , surely thats taking the piss
the money that goes in the charity tin comes from the general public , even if some companys buy a £1000 big poppy to go on the outside of the building , it still in effect comes from the general public as the company adds a few pence on the cost of its wares or services
so why not help the service personel from a fund provided by the government
instead of expecting the heroes to stand outside tesco in the pissing rain "
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"This a bit of a rant!
On Tuesday I put my money in the poppy appeal collection and got chatting to the WW2 veteran who was in a wheelchair. Who briefly explained what had happened to him. Today when we went to the same Tesco store, the same gentleman ( I mean true gentleman ) was sat outside in the cold with a coat on and blanket over his knees collecting. I put some more money in his tin and asked how come you aren't inside today, like you were on Tuesday? He said they wont let me in! They had put the Christmas tree in the place he was on Tuesday, so there was no room for him.
On numerous occasions electric companies have quite a large stand inside the store, but they can't accommodate a wheelchair bound veteran collecting for the poppy appeal. This is totally unacceptable, veterans should be treated with the upmost respect. If wasn't for them, and all the soldiers who have fought for our country, the world would be a very different place.
Shame on you Tesco
you know where not to shop now dont you?,start sending out letters of complaint or call them!,and get friends and relations to complain too!,these WW2 veterans are the reason we have a freedom of choice over where we can do our shopping."
Wrote to the store manager today and head office. Also local paper.
Will NOT be shopping at Tesco again unless they change their policy on this matter. |
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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago
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"why should there be a poppy appeal in the first place ?
why cant they provide injured service people with any type of help they need as a matter of course ?
there is even a charity called help the heroes
a hero has to rely on charity , surely thats taking the piss
the money that goes in the charity tin comes from the general public , even if some companys buy a £1000 big poppy to go on the outside of the building , it still in effect comes from the general public as the company adds a few pence on the cost of its wares or services
so why not help the service personel from a fund provided by the government
instead of expecting the heroes to stand outside tesco in the pissing rain
here we go again "
I find it odd that a post like this would annoy you, but then again it annoys me too as I find it disgusting the old guy was treated like that.
I meet the squaddies of today regularly and although the conflicts of today dont come near the scale off WW1 &WW2 etc a bullet is still a bullet and a bomb a bomb and some off these lads are facing them frequently and will be the old guys sitting outside Tesco in a few decades. |
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"why should there be a poppy appeal in the first place ?
why cant they provide injured service people with any type of help they need as a matter of course ?
there is even a charity called help the heroes
a hero has to rely on charity , surely thats taking the piss
the money that goes in the charity tin comes from the general public , even if some companys buy a £1000 big poppy to go on the outside of the building , it still in effect comes from the general public as the company adds a few pence on the cost of its wares or services
so why not help the service personel from a fund provided by the government
instead of expecting the heroes to stand outside tesco in the pissing rain "
Because the money goes to support the general work of the British Legion - it is not JUST about the wounded and injured who generally are looked after by the state.
For example ex service personnel are far more likely to become homeless many who have served their time perfectly and come out of the forces uninjured simply find it hard to re-adjust to civilian life they fall through the gaps in the system the RBL looks after these people. British Legion volunteers help ex service people and their families in ways the state can't.
The poppy appeal also is a way for US -the civilians- to show that we care and are personally grateful to the armed forces and not shrugging our shoulders and saying " 'they' should do something about it" " |
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Many of those who are veterans would never consider themselves heroes, just doing what they were told to do at the time...
A respect for friends they lost is often the reason they get involved in things like the legion.
We may not agree with the politics always but helping those who put themselves in harms way is worth while.
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"This a bit of a rant!
On Tuesday I put my money in the poppy appeal collection and got chatting to the WW2 veteran who was in a wheelchair. Who briefly explained what had happened to him. Today when we went to the same Tesco store, the same gentleman ( I mean true gentleman ) was sat outside in the cold with a coat on and blanket over his knees collecting. I put some more money in his tin and asked how come you aren't inside today, like you were on Tuesday? He said they wont let me in! They had put the Christmas tree in the place he was on Tuesday, so there was no room for him.
On numerous occasions electric companies have quite a large stand inside the store, but they can't accommodate a wheelchair bound veteran collecting for the poppy appeal. This is totally unacceptable, veterans should be treated with the upmost respect. If wasn't for them, and all the soldiers who have fought for our country, the world would be a very different place.
Shame on you Tesco "
Health and safety and also catering for customers as well as pushing xmas profits. Not nice to see but it would be interesting to hear Tesco's explanation, why not contact them. |
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"why should there be a poppy appeal in the first place ?
why cant they provide injured service people with any type of help they need as a matter of course ?
there is even a charity called help the heroes
a hero has to rely on charity , surely thats taking the piss
the money that goes in the charity tin comes from the general public , even if some companys buy a £1000 big poppy to go on the outside of the building , it still in effect comes from the general public as the company adds a few pence on the cost of its wares or services
so why not help the service personel from a fund provided by the government
instead of expecting the heroes to stand outside tesco in the pissing rain "
ideally the troops should get first class equipment to do the job that they are being sent to do and should expect first class after care too!,but that is not always the case is it?,in the meantime we buy our poppy to wear and show that we remember and that we care!,the help for heroes was borne out of the wretched treatment our troops were getting due to lack of proper equipment for fighting in iraq & afghanistan and to help with the aftercare.
i have seen the aftermath and our linbless troops in selly oak hospital and now the new queen elizabeth hosital in birmingham and have the utmost respect as an ex TA reservist in seeing how these young soldiers shrug the shoulders and say "i was just doing my job!",they should be getting and deserve much better treatment for sure!. |
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"why should there be a poppy appeal in the first place ?
why cant they provide injured service people with any type of help they need as a matter of course ?
there is even a charity called help the heroes
a hero has to rely on charity , surely thats taking the piss
the money that goes in the charity tin comes from the general public , even if some companys buy a £1000 big poppy to go on the outside of the building , it still in effect comes from the general public as the company adds a few pence on the cost of its wares or services
so why not help the service personel from a fund provided by the government
instead of expecting the heroes to stand outside tesco in the pissing rain
here we go again
I find it odd that a post like this would annoy you, but then again it annoys me too as I find it disgusting the old guy was treated like that.
I meet the squaddies of today regularly and although the conflicts of today dont come near the scale off WW1 &WW2 etc a bullet is still a bullet and a bomb a bomb and some off these lads are facing them frequently and will be the old guys sitting outside Tesco in a few decades."
It's annoying because as night follows day this thread will be hijacked by certain posters: quelle surprise they've already posted, and it will soon turn into a thread about immigrants!
The OP has painted a moving picture: old war veteran, collection tin in hand, wheelchair, knees covered with blanket, only things missing was the fact he had one leg as the other was blown off in combat!
You watch: immigrants come here and get better treatment, immigrants get benefit whilst our veterans rattle tins...they'll be unable to resist: you'll see! |
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I hope you complained to the Duty Store Manager, personally I would have complained and took my business elsewhere making sure the manager and anyone within around heard I was refusing to shop there and why. |
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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago
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Sassy I have looked through all the posts regarding the subject twice and the only one I can see mentioning immigrants is yours, could it be you want ppl to start talking about them so you can say I told you so?. |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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OP - go in to Tesco, ask to speak to the manager....
....And offer to buy his tree so that the vet can have his spot back.
Watch him squirm, press the point for a while, then suggest a compromise that gets the vet inside somewhere else....in the week of Remembrance Sunday.
If he won't compromise, you have a local paper to embarrass him in.
"Tesco turfs out war hero to make room to sell Xmas" |
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"This a bit of a rant!
On Tuesday I put my money in the poppy appeal collection and got chatting to the WW2 veteran who was in a wheelchair. Who briefly explained what had happened to him. Today when we went to the same Tesco store, the same gentleman ( I mean true gentleman ) was sat outside in the cold with a coat on and blanket over his knees collecting. I put some more money in his tin and asked how come you aren't inside today, like you were on Tuesday? He said they wont let me in! They had put the Christmas tree in the place he was on Tuesday, so there was no room for him.
On numerous occasions electric companies have quite a large stand inside the store, but they can't accommodate a wheelchair bound veteran collecting for the poppy appeal. This is totally unacceptable, veterans should be treated with the upmost respect. If wasn't for them, and all the soldiers who have fought for our country, the world would be a very different place.
Shame on you Tesco "
Disgusting to hear this, I certainly will not ever go in there again, its all about money at the end of the day, they might as well leave the bloody tree there all year! I know were I would love to shove it!  |
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"Sassy I have looked through all the posts regarding the subject twice and the only one I can see mentioning immigrants is yours, could it be you want ppl to start talking about them so you can say I told you so?."
My response was to Doncaster couples "here we go again" comment. I've been on this site long enough to have seen how posts like this degenerate.
It's not unique: look at any post from a single/married man etc complaining about not getting meets and the first reply will usually be "oh oh, tin hat and popcorn at the ready" because you know what's coming!
If anything I'm stating the bleeding obvious and wasting my own time on threads like this!
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"why should there be a poppy appeal in the first place ?
why cant they provide injured service people with any type of help they need as a matter of course ?
there is even a charity called help the heroes
a hero has to rely on charity , surely thats taking the piss
the money that goes in the charity tin comes from the general public , even if some companys buy a £1000 big poppy to go on the outside of the building , it still in effect comes from the general public as the company adds a few pence on the cost of its wares or services
so why not help the service personel from a fund provided by the government
instead of expecting the heroes to stand outside tesco in the pissing rain "
Totally agree with the sentiment of this post. Totally agree with the OP. Armed Forces Veterans should be cared for by the state on our behalf but there is also room for members of the public to assist charitable organisations and wear the poppy as a mark of respect and a statement of support. 'At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We Will Remember Them'. |
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That's utterly shocking! I think the Tesco in Poole needs an email from everyone who can make the time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPdWz0XqeRg
This is my friend Paul. He's amazing. He was hit by a roadside bomb in November last year. I've never met someone with such an upbeat, positive mental attitude in all my life. His sense of humour is probably one of the main things that has got him through the last few months. We went to visit him in hospital in down in Birmingham in February and when we arrived we weren't quite sure what to expect. That sort of trauma is something that I can't quite comprehend. We got to the ward he was in and asked the nurse where he was and she replied that he was the one smiling in the last room. Sure enough there he was... big grin on his face. We said that we weren't sure what to bring him, we opted for a pile of lad mags and quick as a flash he said "well some socks would have been good" 
He's exactly the same person inside as he was before he was injured only he's not 6ft 4 any more. His family and his girlfriend have been brilliant, he proposed on Christmas Day last year and said that he couldn't get down on one knee so he had to lower the bed. I tried very hard not to cry at that point as he laughed. Looking round the ward at the other poor souls, Paul said that he considered himself one of the lucky ones. It was a hugely humbling experience all in all and it put my problems into a whole new perspective.
He's just finished a cycle on a hand bike across Holland for Help for Heroes and raised a whole pile of cash. I am in awe of his determination and I love that he's doing good things. He inspires me.
The army are doing all they can for him and he's one of the lucky ones getting a lot of help but if it wasn't for the hard work and effort like the man sitting in the cold outside Tescos then he wouldn't get that help.
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By *iewMan
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"That's utterly shocking! I think the Tesco in Poole needs an email from everyone who can make the time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPdWz0XqeRg
This is my friend Paul. He's amazing. He was hit by a roadside bomb in November last year. I've never met someone with such an upbeat, positive mental attitude in all my life. His sense of humour is probably one of the main things that has got him through the last few months. We went to visit him in hospital in down in Birmingham in February and when we arrived we weren't quite sure what to expect. That sort of trauma is something that I can't quite comprehend. We got to the ward he was in and asked the nurse where he was and she replied that he was the one smiling in the last room. Sure enough there he was... big grin on his face. We said that we weren't sure what to bring him, we opted for a pile of lad mags and quick as a flash he said "well some socks would have been good"
He's exactly the same person inside as he was before he was injured only he's not 6ft 4 any more. His family and his girlfriend have been brilliant, he proposed on Christmas Day last year and said that he couldn't get down on one knee so he had to lower the bed. I tried very hard not to cry at that point as he laughed. Looking round the ward at the other poor souls, Paul said that he considered himself one of the lucky ones. It was a hugely humbling experience all in all and it put my problems into a whole new perspective.
He's just finished a cycle on a hand bike across Holland for Help for Heroes and raised a whole pile of cash. I am in awe of his determination and I love that he's doing good things. He inspires me.
The army are doing all they can for him and he's one of the lucky ones getting a lot of help but if it wasn't for the hard work and effort like the man sitting in the cold outside Tescos then he wouldn't get that help.
Remember to remember. "
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Poole Daily Echo http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/districts/poole/8485367.A_poppy_for_the_Cerne_Abbas_Giant_as_appeal_launched/
A WAR hero from Poole was the guest of honour at the launch of the Royal British Legion’s Poppy Appeal in Dorset on Friday.
Sid Cross, 98, a former Commando decorated for his bravery in the 1943 battle of Salerno, watched as serving soldiers from Bovington Camp unveiled a giant poppy for the Cerne Giant.
Last year, Mr Cross collected more than £3,000 for Broadstone RBL and will start nine days of two-hour collection shifts outside the Tesco store in Fleetsbridge today.
Mr Cross served as a police officer with the Metropolitan Police after the war, acting as personal bodyguard to King George VI and Winston Churchill.
A lone piper from the Royal Scots Guards led a parade of motorcyclists from the RBL and military vehicles from Bovington Camp through Cerne Abbas before the presentation.
This year’s appeal will focus support on the wounded and bereaved of the British Armed Forces serving in Afghanistan.
Some £600,000 was collected in Dorset last year and organisers remain optimistic of hitting their national target of £36 million despite the economic downturn.
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Hi guys , just wanted to say its good to read so many people who think the way i do and believe our veterans deserve better treatment.
Its a disgrace that succesive governemnts have failed to provide our current and ex servicemen with the support they need , what a different situation it is in the US with every state having a veterans hospitals where aervicemen and women are given the treatment and support they need , most importantly by servicemen and women who understand what they have been through.
However i do think as a nation we should take huge pride in the fact that in a little over five years Help foor heroes has raised nearly 80 million pounds , think that shows the true greatness of this country and the people in it , if the governent wont do something well we f**kin well will.
And as for Tesco's (or the Evil Empire as they are affectionately known in my house!!) they should hang their heads in shame. |
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It is a mistake to think that the State doesn't have hospitals and recuperation centres for injured service people.
Headley Court is one prime example where a state run Rehabilitation Centre is supplemented by charitable donations.
So don't be fooled into thinking the situation is worse than it is in the United States, charitable organisations like the British Legion, Help for Heroes, Towergate, and Sams Morale do a fantastic job of adding extra investment from public donation into these centres. |
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Hi Jane , i wasnt for one moment trying to suggest that the state does nothing for our servicemen and women , my point was that it doesn't do enough.
As you quite rightly say Headley court is a fantastic facility , staffed by incredible doctors and nurses who rebuild shattered lives and bodies.
However the fact remains that all our returning injured servicemen and women are treated in NHS hospitals , rather than having dedicated medical facilities,staffed by military medical personnel who understand the military psyche and who can provide the necessary one on one care these men and women deserve.
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You are dead right on the NHS bit, Selly Oak Hospital in Birmingham was the first stop off point for a good friend of ours when he came back badly wounded from Helmand....it was less than perfect in so many ways.
Unfortunately the proposed new Royal Centre for Defence Medicine has been put on the backburner by the coalition government while they commision an enquiry into the need....as if there can be any question it is badly needed!
The closure of Selly Oak at the end of next year will leave a big hole. |
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"Sassy I have looked through all the posts regarding the subject twice and the only one I can see mentioning immigrants is yours, could it be you want ppl to start talking about them so you can say I told you so?.
My response was to Doncaster couples "here we go again" comment. I've been on this site long enough to have seen how posts like this degenerate.
It's not unique: look at any post from a single/married man etc complaining about not getting meets and the first reply will usually be "oh oh, tin hat and popcorn at the ready" because you know what's coming!
If anything I'm stating the bleeding obvious and wasting my own time on threads like this!
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you are certainly right when you say you have wasted your time , 15 hours and 33 posts and still no mention of immigrants
i myself come from a family of immigrants , and am becoming more and more uncomfortable with the term "immigrant"
it seems to be used in a derogatory manner just like the word "gypsy" or "pikey"
the united kingdon is a country that at a rough guess is made up of 99% immigrants
we should rejoice in that fact rather than try and stirr things up like an agent provocatuer , or aggitator |
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"OP - go in to Tesco, ask to speak to the manager....
....And offer to buy his tree so that the vet can have his spot back.
Watch him squirm, press the point for a while, then suggest a compromise that gets the vet inside somewhere else....in the week of Remembrance Sunday.
If he won't compromise, you have a local paper to embarrass him in.
"Tesco turfs out war hero to make room to sell Xmas""
We have emailed the local paper, and the newsdesk emailed me back today. They are calling me first thing monday morning. Will post on here what they say and will let you all know if they print a piece on this. Really hope they do, so Tesco let him back into the warm again.
Have also emailed Tesco, several times. The more messages they get the more they will realise it's unacceptable |
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