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over a year ago
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Is it better to buy an older car with less mileage or newer with more please ? And as in older I mean 2010 and newer I mean 2012 both the same make and model. |
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"Is it better to buy an older car with less mileage or newer with more please ? And as in older I mean 2010 and newer I mean 2012 both the same make and model. "
If you have the money...get a rac check on both...and go from there. |
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"Is it better to buy an older car with less mileage or newer with more please ? And as in older I mean 2010 and newer I mean 2012 both the same make and model. "
A lot comes down to how it's been driven and cared for. A high mileage car that's been serviced properly and driven on motorways etc will probably be much better than a low mileage car that's skipped a service or two and never gone above 2000rpm.
If it's from a dealer ask to see the service book, don't just take their word that it has a full service history. Also make sure it's belt changes are up to date including tensioners, idlers and water pump. |
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By *errygTV/TS
over a year ago
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depends on prev use, seen cars used school run, shopping etc all short trips stuck in traffic daily, may have 10k on it, then same car same year may have 30k, but used on long journeys, but has less engine running hours,gear changing ie every 2 mins your in traffic stationary, you could have done a mile at 30 mph, motorway 2 miles. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Is it better to buy an older car with less mileage or newer with more please ? And as in older I mean 2010 and newer I mean 2012 both the same make and model. "
and also lots of different things to check.....
the car tax on them may not be the same.... because my newer model spewed out less co2 that the older model it was cheaper to tax
they may have difference insurance bands attached to them... again my newer car to my surprise was in a cheaper insurance band than the older one.....
its really going to be one of those questions that the answer is check the overall package |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it better to buy an older car with less mileage or newer with more please ? And as in older I mean 2010 and newer I mean 2012 both the same make and model.
and also lots of different things to check.....
the car tax on them may not be the same.... because my newer model spewed out less co2 that the older model it was cheaper to tax
they may have difference insurance bands attached to them... again my newer car to my surprise was in a cheaper insurance band than the older one.....
its really going to be one of those questions that the answer is check the overall package"
The tax thing isn't a given. When Alfa replaced their Busso V6 engine a few years ago with a cleaner, more fuel efficient one (almost identical power output) the tax almost doubled over the older dirtier, less efficient model. |
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"The tax thing isn't a given. When Alfa replaced their Busso V6 engine a few years ago with a cleaner, more fuel efficient one (almost identical power output) the tax almost doubled over the older dirtier, less efficient model."
The Busso was however an engine of great beauty unlike it's follow up!  |
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"The tax thing isn't a given. When Alfa replaced their Busso V6 engine a few years ago with a cleaner, more fuel efficient one (almost identical power output) the tax almost doubled over the older dirtier, less efficient model.
The Busso was however an engine of great beauty unlike it's follow up! "
Best sounding V6 ever. An absolute peach of a powerplant. The GM derived one is okay but lacks a lot of the Busso's character and sound...  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is it better to buy an older car with less mileage or newer with more please ? And as in older I mean 2010 and newer I mean 2012 both the same make and model.
and also lots of different things to check.....
the car tax on them may not be the same.... because my newer model spewed out less co2 that the older model it was cheaper to tax
they may have difference insurance bands attached to them... again my newer car to my surprise was in a cheaper insurance band than the older one.....
its really going to be one of those questions that the answer is check the overall package
The tax thing isn't a given. When Alfa replaced their Busso V6 engine a few years ago with a cleaner, more fuel efficient one (almost identical power output) the tax almost doubled over the older dirtier, less efficient model."
What you mean cars have an engine ?? 
I do know about tax and insurance and changing log book so I am not all that useless |
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Best sounding V6 ever. An absolute peach of a powerplant. The GM derived one is okay but lacks a lot of the Busso's character and sound... "
Myself and the 218BHP V6 in my Vectra would disagree with you there. |
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I once bought a six year old car with fairly high mileage. At the next MoT, I had to change the exhaust and was somewhat amazed to find that the car still had the original one piece item (replacements came in two pieces)
Fast forward to my next car which was only 3 years old but with less than the average yearly mileage on it, and I had to change the exhaust within my first year of ownership.
Obviously, the older car of the two had been used mainly for longer journeys whilst the newer one for shorter journeys.
Shorter journeys are actually more harmful as the car often doesn't have time to warm up properly and so water vapour in the exhaust gases condense on the cold exhaust which can lead to corrosion.
My current car was 7 years old with high mileage when I bought it 12 years ago.
I've replaced the rear silencer twice - although the first time was through choice rather than necessity and the only real major issues i've had with it have been the gearbox - which I had to have rebuilt 5 years ago (but this can be attributed to wear and tear) and the driveshaft - which failed just before Christmas (It's a two piece item and it is the constant velocity joint that failed)
Not bad really, considering that I originally bought the car from a Salvage yard.
While it's off the road, I'm planning on giving the car a major mechanical overhaul (preventative maintenance) including a full engine rebuild, so hopefully it will last another 20 years - so I can pass it on to my son when he's old enough (or my daughter if she wants it)
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it better to buy an older car with less mileage or newer with more please ? And as in older I mean 2010 and newer I mean 2012 both the same make and model. "
Be a bit more specific with make and model of each car and mileage on both
the more info, the easier to help, or feel free to mail me direct with questions |
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Best sounding V6 ever. An absolute peach of a powerplant. The GM derived one is okay but lacks a lot of the Busso's character and sound...
Myself and the 218BHP V6 in my Vectra would disagree with you there. "
Power does not mean character. You have to have driven a Busso powered car to understand, they're simply magical.
For what it's worth I had a 2.5 Vectra SRI a few fyears ago. I had it supercharged, cams, inlet manifold, exhaust mapped but Courtenay Motorsport. Pushing nearly 300bhp but no soul. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Buy the red one.
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And don't buy French!"
Now see this is where I fall down big time as I have no idea who makes what where other than Ford in dagenham and Volvo is Sweden. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Buy the red one.
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And don't buy French!
Now see this is where I fall down big time as I have no idea who makes what where other than Ford in dagenham and Volvo is Sweden. "
Not anymore, Ford only build engines there now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I would also say that for older cars, go for a bigger engine. That might sound a bit weird, but think about it, bigger engines aren't worked so hard - so will likely last longer.
Here's an example.
While my car is off the road, I'm currently tooling around in a four and a half year old, low mileage, Toyota Yaris. It has a 1.4 litre engine and, while it's pretty nippy when it needs to be (relatively speaking) under hard acceleration it does sound like the engine is about to leap out from under the hood.
Compare that to the 3.8 litre V6 on my Firebird. It's got over 145,000 miles on it and acceleration is a breeze, as it has bags more torque lower down the rev range.
My Firebird is 19 years old. I very much doubt the Yaris will last much past half that. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Buy the red one.
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And don't buy French!
Now see this is where I fall down big time as I have no idea who makes what where other than Ford in dagenham and Volvo is Sweden.
Not anymore, Ford only build engines there now."
Oh I didn't know that |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I would also say that for older cars, go for a bigger engine. That might sound a bit weird, but think about it, bigger engines aren't worked so hard - so will likely last longer.
Here's an example.
While my car is off the road, I'm currently tooling around in a four and a half year old, low mileage, Toyota Yaris. It has a 1.4 litre engine and, while it's pretty nippy when it needs to be (relatively speaking) under hard acceleration it does sound like the engine is about to leap out from under the hood.
Compare that to the 3.8 litre V6 on my Firebird. It's got over 145,000 miles on it and acceleration is a breeze, as it has bags more torque lower down the rev range.
My Firebird is 19 years old. I very much doubt the Yaris will last much past half that."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Buy the red one.
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And don't buy French!
Now see this is where I fall down big time as I have no idea who makes what where other than Ford in dagenham and Volvo is Sweden.
Not anymore, Ford only build engines there now.
Oh I didn't know that "
Ford haven't built cars at Dagenham for years. In fact, they don't build any vehicles in the UK any more - not even the Transit van.
The Dagenham plant was pulled down years ago.
The A13 now runs across the Ford site. There's only half of the original factory buildings still standing.
(My Dad worked for Ford for 39 years at various locations around Essex - and often visited many sites in Europe as part of his job - he wasn't on the factory floor - he was part of Quality control associated with product development - or so I understand) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Wee question for anyone with a clue on car tax.
If i bought an imported japanese car, would i be taxed on the date it was registered in the UK meaning i would pay a shedload of road tax, or would they go by manufacture date? As i'm considering getting a Skyline. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wee question for anyone with a clue on car tax.
If i bought an imported japanese car, would i be taxed on the date it was registered in the UK meaning i would pay a shedload of road tax, or would they go by manufacture date? As i'm considering getting a Skyline."
Just buy one that's alreadybeen imported and inspected several times. Buying a Skyline from Japan can be hellish, they're often crashed and badly repaired and, unless you can read/speak Japanese you won't have a clue about service history. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wee question for anyone with a clue on car tax.
If i bought an imported japanese car, would i be taxed on the date it was registered in the UK meaning i would pay a shedload of road tax, or would they go by manufacture date? As i'm considering getting a Skyline."
I'm pretty sure it's based on year of manufacture.
My next car will be a 2002 Trans Am with a 5.7 litre V8.
When registering it, the registration mark it will be given will either have to reflect the date of manufacture or be older - and road tax follows the same principles.
Fortunately, this means that road tax will be far cheaper than under the newer rules |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wee question for anyone with a clue on car tax.
If i bought an imported japanese car, would i be taxed on the date it was registered in the UK meaning i would pay a shedload of road tax, or would they go by manufacture date? As i'm considering getting a Skyline.
Just buy one that's alreadybeen imported and inspected several times. Buying a Skyline from Japan can be hellish, they're often crashed and badly repaired and, unless you can read/speak Japanese you won't have a clue about service history."
Thats what i was planning to do, just hard to get info on it, as when you check websites here theres no info on the car tax band it would come under, as its a 2.6 and 4wd i could easily get screwed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I once bought a six year old car with fairly high mileage. At the next MoT, I had to change the exhaust and was somewhat amazed to find that the car still had the original one piece item (replacements came in two pieces)
Fast forward to my next car which was only 3 years old but with less than the average yearly mileage on it, and I had to change the exhaust within my first year of ownership.
Obviously, the older car of the two had been used mainly for longer journeys whilst the newer one for shorter journeys.
Shorter journeys are actually more harmful as the car often doesn't have time to warm up properly and so water vapour in the exhaust gases condense on the cold exhaust which can lead to corrosion.
My current car was 7 years old with high mileage when I bought it 12 years ago.
I've replaced the rear silencer twice - although the first time was through choice rather than necessity and the only real major issues i've had with it have been the gearbox - which I had to have rebuilt 5 years ago (but this can be attributed to wear and tear) and the driveshaft - which failed just before Christmas (It's a two piece item and it is the constant velocity joint that failed)
Not bad really, considering that I originally bought the car from a Salvage yard.
While it's off the road, I'm planning on giving the car a major mechanical overhaul (preventative maintenance) including a full engine rebuild, so hopefully it will last another 20 years - so I can pass it on to my son when he's old enough (or my daughter if she wants it)
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Exhausts corrode from inside out,
The cooler rear half will allow the gases to condense so you get sulphur dioxide mixing with the water that creates an acidic liquid. Genuine oem ones last a hell of alot longer than Kwik fit ones.
I've got a stainless steel on mine which I bought 6 years ago and comes with a 25 year guarantee.
I've owned several cars and my current one is 22 years old and has 300,000 on the clock.... You can't tell condition from age or mileage! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wee question for anyone with a clue on car tax.
If i bought an imported japanese car, would i be taxed on the date it was registered in the UK meaning i would pay a shedload of road tax, or would they go by manufacture date? As i'm considering getting a Skyline.
I'm pretty sure it's based on year of manufacture.
My next car will be a 2002 Trans Am with a 5.7 litre V8.
When registering it, the registration mark it will be given will either have to reflect the date of manufacture or be older - and road tax follows the same principles.
Fortunately, this means that road tax will be far cheaper than under the newer rules "
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Older cars were based on year of manufacture but newer ones are based on c02 output! |
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By *errygTV/TS
over a year ago
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another fault on cars used in town short trips, sometimes they don't reach normal temp often which can lead to problems, as with cambelts say 40k miles change, taxis change theirs well before as the engines are run a lot when stationary, as a prev post a high miles motorway car can be a lot better and poss cheaper |
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By *onyneMan
over a year ago
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THere are loads of good second hand cars now - cheap with loads of spec etc...a massive choice. mileage is less of an issue now but best get things checked over...money well spent. tax and insurance play a part too of course.
Good luck with choice |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oi you lot , in light of lickitys thread this is my thread bogof with all ya my engines bigger than yours stuff
Bogoff and buy a new car
I want to but I'm just so confused. I knew the x was good for something "
What sort of needs do you have for the car you want? |
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"Oi you lot , in light of lickitys thread this is my thread bogof with all ya my engines bigger than yours stuff
Bogoff and buy a new car
I want to but I'm just so confused. I knew the x was good for something
What sort of needs do you have for the car you want? "
I have a heap that according Ford will cost more to repair than the car is worth hence I need a new used small low tax low insurance one. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Also consider the mileage you will be adding to it in next few years....This will effect future value.
An older car with less miles if you are gonna do loads could be better.
If you do few then newer high mileage will be better as when you get rid the mileage will balance out but you are selling a newer car.... |
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"Oi you lot , in light of lickitys thread this is my thread bogof with all ya my engines bigger than yours stuff
Bogoff and buy a new car
I want to but I'm just so confused. I knew the x was good for something
What sort of needs do you have for the car you want?
I have a heap that according Ford will cost more to repair than the car is worth hence I need a new used small low tax low insurance one. "
Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost should do the trick, about 60mpg, no tax. |
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"Oi you lot , in light of lickitys thread this is my thread bogof with all ya my engines bigger than yours stuff
Bogoff and buy a new car
I want to but I'm just so confused. I knew the x was good for something
What sort of needs do you have for the car you want?
I have a heap that according Ford will cost more to repair than the car is worth hence I need a new used small low tax low insurance one.
Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost should do the trick, about 60mpg, no tax."
I will have a look thank you.
Anymore ideas please. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yeah, don't get a Toyota Yaris.
Especially not with the 'Automatic' manual gearbox (it's a manual that you drive like an auto - i.e. the car does it all for you and there is no clutch pedal)
It changes gear more jerkily than a learner on their first driving lesson.
The instruments are mounted in the centre of the dash - and not directly in front of the driver where they should be.
The Chassis / handling is bloody awful - i'd say borderline dangerous in the wet.
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"Yeah, don't get a Toyota Yaris.
Especially not with the 'Automatic' manual gearbox (it's a manual that you drive like an auto - i.e. the car does it all for you and there is no clutch pedal)
It changes gear more jerkily than a learner on their first driving lesson.
The instruments are mounted in the centre of the dash - and not directly in front of the driver where they should be.
The Chassis / handling is bloody awful - i'd say borderline dangerous in the wet.
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I was just looking at them lol. I really like the Chevrolet spark , my dad has had a couple of them and never had any problems. Has anyone got any opinion on them ? |
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