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"Oh I though women loved this and it was to be encouraged. And isn't it always followed by a dirty look from the woman because she wants you to know how much she enjoyed it ? " Gross right? And they all think we walk away from it feeling special. Sad times. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear." Hate that kind of behaviour, but if I was a pervy slime ball, I would be tempted by you in that skirt | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear." I'm clumsy so it's not so much a rub up a giant you but turn around without realising there's a helmet clipped to my backpack and knock you all over ^_& | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear." Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. | |||
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"Unless it's 100% certain it is intended how can you do this? OK if he grabs boob or squeezed your bum then yes shame him. Otherwise you could be charged with assault. Or some lad's could take it upon themselves to beat the Crap our of a perfectly innocent guy. Personally I have accidentally bumped into loads of women in pub's and bar's and would be mortified and incredibly angry if I was accused of being a creep. " | |||
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"Never done it never will I have respect for women and there personal space " You need a coma in there mate or your post looks rather sinister. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you." Haha! I might start doing that! Good to know some guys on here seem to think i don't know the difference between an accident and "an accident". Try walking around in my body one day guys. Just because women don't grope you doesn't mean that men dont grope me. And nice to see the bitterness coming out. Another easy filter. | |||
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"Unless it's 100% certain it is intended how can you do this? OK if he grabs boob or squeezed your bum then yes shame him. Otherwise you could be charged with assault. Or some lad's could take it upon themselves to beat the Crap our of a perfectly innocent guy. Personally I have accidentally bumped into loads of women in pub's and bar's and would be mortified and incredibly angry if I was accused of being a creep. " You're worrying about nothing. Women can tell the difference between groping and an accidental touch! | |||
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"Even on a crowded tube train I make sure I don't rub against someone, my laptop bag aka man bag hangs down in front of my crotch area. And if I have to push past I say "Excuse me" to give them a chance to make a bit more room. There's no need to ever rub up or touch someone. " and there is the difference.. having anner and saying "excuse me" or just squeezing past... | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear." What part of you do they rub? What part of them do they rub you with ? | |||
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"So people aim for you to brush past ? What do they brush past with?" Please don't ask my question before I do. Ta. | |||
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"So people aim for you to brush past ? What do they brush past with? Please don't ask my question before I do. Ta. " I am so sorry | |||
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"Even on a crowded tube train I make sure I don't rub against someone, my laptop bag aka man bag hangs down in front of my crotch area. And if I have to push past I say "Excuse me" to give them a chance to make a bit more room. There's no need to ever rub up or touch someone. and there is the difference.. having anner and saying "excuse me" or just squeezing past..." Exactly! I work in a kitchen and there's not much room. A simple hand on the shoulder or "excuse me" is all it takes. We women are well aware of when a guy is being a creep and when there's just no room. I get that women can be like this with men too, however as a woman i posted this from my perspective. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you." I believe that constitutes assault. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. I believe that constitutes assault." I believe deliberately touching or rubbing against women you don't know is sexual assualt. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. I believe that constitutes assault." If this ever happens to you could you please call a policeman and refer back to me as to what their response was. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. I believe that constitutes assault. If this ever happens to you could you please call a policeman and refer back to me as to what their response was. " f you work in a small kitchen and there isn't much room then it's inevitable that people are going to come into contact as they go past. Any person male or female couldn't sustain putting a hand on people or saying excuse me 100 times a day. Things like that become part and parcel of the job. As long as they are just moving past and don't slide across your groin with their groin as if you are both smeared with slow setting evostick I suggest you just get on with it. If you believe it's sexual assault then report it right away. If you don't think it serious enough to report it'd be nice not to smear the men you work with as sexual deviants. I don't reckon they are paid enough for the work they do and then they've got to suffer the indignation of being labelled. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. I believe that constitutes assault. I believe deliberately touching or rubbing against women you don't know is sexual assault." You are correct. However the fact remains that its committing an offence. Drawing verbal attention to the issue is the correct response - loudly and with clear expression of what is happening.has happened. Committing assault against someone is not the answer. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. I believe that constitutes assault. If this ever happens to you could you please call a policeman and refer back to me as to what their response was. f you work in a small kitchen and there isn't much room then it's inevitable that people are going to come into contact as they go past. Any person male or female couldn't sustain putting a hand on people or saying excuse me 100 times a day. Things like that become part and parcel of the job. As long as they are just moving past and don't slide across your groin with their groin as if you are both smeared with slow setting evostick I suggest you just get on with it. If you believe it's sexual assault then report it right away. If you don't think it serious enough to report it'd be nice not to smear the men you work with as sexual deviants. I don't reckon they are paid enough for the work they do and then they've got to suffer the indignation of being labelled. " I don't think you understood my post. I was saying that in my job, people always behave well therefor when out in public, it's easy for men to behave well. It was an example of a place where it's crowded yet men know how to behave. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. I believe that constitutes assault. If this ever happens to you could you please call a policeman and refer back to me as to what their response was. f you work in a small kitchen and there isn't much room then it's inevitable that people are going to come into contact as they go past. Any person male or female couldn't sustain putting a hand on people or saying excuse me 100 times a day. Things like that become part and parcel of the job. As long as they are just moving past and don't slide across your groin with their groin as if you are both smeared with slow setting evostick I suggest you just get on with it. If you believe it's sexual assault then report it right away. If you don't think it serious enough to report it'd be nice not to smear the men you work with as sexual deviants. I don't reckon they are paid enough for the work they do and then they've got to suffer the indignation of being labelled. I don't think you understood my post. I was saying that in my job, people always behave well therefor when out in public, it's easy for men to behave well. It was an example of a place where it's crowded yet men know how to behave." Got you. I still disagree. In work , they are subject to punishment or dismissal. That has bearing on behaviours. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. I believe that constitutes assault. If this ever happens to you could you please call a policeman and refer back to me as to what their response was. f you work in a small kitchen and there isn't much room then it's inevitable that people are going to come into contact as they go past. Any person male or female couldn't sustain putting a hand on people or saying excuse me 100 times a day. Things like that become part and parcel of the job. As long as they are just moving past and don't slide across your groin with their groin as if you are both smeared with slow setting evostick I suggest you just get on with it. If you believe it's sexual assault then report it right away. If you don't think it serious enough to report it'd be nice not to smear the men you work with as sexual deviants. I don't reckon they are paid enough for the work they do and then they've got to suffer the indignation of being labelled. I don't think you understood my post. I was saying that in my job, people always behave well therefor when out in public, it's easy for men to behave well. It was an example of a place where it's crowded yet men know how to behave. Got you. I still disagree. In work , they are subject to punishment or dismissal. That has bearing on behaviours. " That's a good point. It shows something about the world where losing your job is worse than a woman possibly reporting you for assault. Probably because we don't call the cops when we should. But then every bar would have more cops than patrons. Sad times eh? | |||
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" Grab their* wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. I believe that constitutes assault. If this ever happens to you could you please call a policeman and refer back to me as to what their response was. " He's technically correct. It's actually common assault and while highly unlikely to constitute a charge can be met with a caution. However if you called the police and prevented them from leaving that is allowed if no unreasonable force is used. * Sorry about the correction! | |||
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"So where do men aim for you to brush past you when there is plenty of room and what do they brush past you with?" In the last 2 months i've been touched overtly by 3 men. I had to get an overnight bus from London to Glasgow and a man sat next to me. He pretended to fall asleep but would rub the back of his hand on my leg. First time i told him to stop. Second time i shoved his hand and told him if he did again i would have him removed. Third time i stood up and shouted loudly. The driver threw him off the bus. Last month a man in a bar pressed up behind me when there was noone behind him. I politely asked him to step back. He did then a minute later started again, this time with a hard on. I yelled for a member of staff and he was removed. 2 nights ago a guy walked up behind me while sat at a table, leaned over my shoulder and dropped a pound coin down my cleavage. When he went to reach for it i grabvbd his wrist and twisted. I am well aware of what is an accident and what isn't. The men who are getting very defensive mught want to think about what it's like to be a woman. | |||
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"So where do men aim for you to brush past you when there is plenty of room and what do they brush past you with? In the last 2 months i've been touched overtly by 3 men. I had to get an overnight bus from London to Glasgow and a man sat next to me. He pretended to fall asleep but would rub the back of his hand on my leg. First time i told him to stop. Second time i shoved his hand and told him if he did again i would have him removed. Third time i stood up and shouted loudly. The driver threw him off the bus. Last month a man in a bar pressed up behind me when there was noone behind him. I politely asked him to step back. He did then a minute later started again, this time with a hard on. I yelled for a member of staff and he was removed. 2 nights ago a guy walked up behind me while sat at a table, leaned over my shoulder and dropped a pound coin down my cleavage. When he went to reach for it i grabvbd his wrist and twisted. I am well aware of what is an accident and what isn't. The men who are getting very defensive mught want to think about what it's like to be a woman." Thanks. Yep, none seem accidental to me | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. I believe that constitutes assault. If this ever happens to you could you please call a policeman and refer back to me as to what their response was. f you work in a small kitchen and there isn't much room then it's inevitable that people are going to come into contact as they go past. Any person male or female couldn't sustain putting a hand on people or saying excuse me 100 times a day. Things like that become part and parcel of the job. As long as they are just moving past and don't slide across your groin with their groin as if you are both smeared with slow setting evostick I suggest you just get on with it. If you believe it's sexual assault then report it right away. If you don't think it serious enough to report it'd be nice not to smear the men you work with as sexual deviants. I don't reckon they are paid enough for the work they do and then they've got to suffer the indignation of being labelled. " I didn't suggest that any men in a kitchen were sexual deviants. Last time I grabbed a man's hand like that and asked who it was, he had put his fingers under my crotch on a crowded tube. Should I have just put up with it? I couldn't move away it was far too busy. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. I believe that constitutes assault." I do not believe that the police would have a problem with me doing that, if it was to move their hand away from touching my crotch or my breasts without my consent. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear." id ask permission first.... lol | |||
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"So where do men aim for you to brush past you when there is plenty of room and what do they brush past you with? In the last 2 months i've been touched overtly by 3 men. I had to get an overnight bus from London to Glasgow and a man sat next to me. He pretended to fall asleep but would rub the back of his hand on my leg. First time i told him to stop. Second time i shoved his hand and told him if he did again i would have him removed. Third time i stood up and shouted loudly. The driver threw him off the bus. Last month a man in a bar pressed up behind me when there was noone behind him. I politely asked him to step back. He did then a minute later started again, this time with a hard on. I yelled for a member of staff and he was removed. 2 nights ago a guy walked up behind me while sat at a table, leaned over my shoulder and dropped a pound coin down my cleavage. When he went to reach for it i grabvbd his wrist and twisted. I am well aware of what is an accident and what isn't. The men who are getting very defensive mught want to think about what it's like to be a woman." Steady on. You can't grab someone by the wrist. That's assault. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you." Yup I'm a performer and get grabbed in the boob and gentials a lot. I tend to twist their wrist and shout in their face until I get an apology. Kicked a guy in the face once for putting his hand up my skirt while I was onstage | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. Yup I'm a performer and get grabbed in the boob and gentials a lot. I tend to twist their wrist and shout in their face until I get an apology. Kicked a guy in the face once for putting his hand up my skirt while I was onstage " Now this is weird! I was a stripper 20 years ago when yhe money was outrageous but back then there were faaaar less creeps! I did a weekend slot for a friend who needed me to fill in 2 years ago. I was looking forward to it tbh! I was a wee bit nostalgic! I did 20 minutes on atage before i told my friend i was leaving. The men were disgusting. They seemed to think because they paid a cover fee that the girls were there for whatever they wanted. I wonder what happened in the last 20 years. | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. Yup I'm a performer and get grabbed in the boob and gentials a lot. I tend to twist their wrist and shout in their face until I get an apology. Kicked a guy in the face once for putting his hand up my skirt while I was onstage Now this is weird! I was a stripper 20 years ago when yhe money was outrageous but back then there were faaaar less creeps! I did a weekend slot for a friend who needed me to fill in 2 years ago. I was looking forward to it tbh! I was a wee bit nostalgic! I did 20 minutes on atage before i told my friend i was leaving. The men were disgusting. They seemed to think because they paid a cover fee that the girls were there for whatever they wanted. I wonder what happened in the last 20 years." Age of entitlement I'm fully clothed onstage but shouldn't matter either way. No invite, no grabby | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. Yup I'm a performer and get grabbed in the boob and gentials a lot. I tend to twist their wrist and shout in their face until I get an apology. Kicked a guy in the face once for putting his hand up my skirt while I was onstage " | |||
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"I wonder what happened in the last 20 years." The adverse effects of the internet | |||
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"When there is a big pair of tits or arse in the way sometimes its difficult, i doubt anyone in this day would do it on purpose" Read my posts here. They do it. | |||
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"Id be a right slut if i was a woman " This is an attitude i can't even get my head around. | |||
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"im far too violent when it comes to stuff like this. Punched a guy in the throat that thought it would be funny to try and a bit too friendly waiting at a bar, him flapping on the floor being unable to breathe was a pleasant sight. Doubt hes tried that move with another person " Are you for real? And if a guy did that to you......? | |||
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"im far too violent when it comes to stuff like this. Punched a guy in the throat that thought it would be funny to try and a bit too friendly waiting at a bar, him flapping on the floor being unable to breathe was a pleasant sight. Doubt hes tried that move with another person Are you for real? And if a guy did that to you......?" Define try, must have been quite an aggressive attack to justify that | |||
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"im far too violent when it comes to stuff like this. Punched a guy in the throat that thought it would be funny to try and a bit too friendly waiting at a bar, him flapping on the floor being unable to breathe was a pleasant sight. Doubt hes tried that move with another person Are you for real? And if a guy did that to you......? Define try, must have been quite an aggressive attack to justify that" sorry but im no door mat and if a man that i do not know tries to force his fingers inside my vagina in a night club then im going to take action and not just stand there like a victim | |||
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"sorry but im no door mat and if a man that i do not know tries to force his fingers inside my vagina in a night club then im going to take action and not just stand there like a victim" agreed, no justification for that, | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. I'm clumsy so it's not so much a rub up a giant you but turn around without realising there's a helmet clipped to my backpack and knock you all over ^_&" Yeah I know how that feels! Remember when we went to almost famous when we went away for the weekend and a bloke groped my bum when we were walking up the stairs? I wish I could've kicked him now -.- | |||
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"When there is a big pair of tits or arse in the way sometimes its difficult, i doubt anyone in this day would do it on purpose" Dude your not helping. All comments like this does is reinforce stereo types. Everyone deserves the right to be treated with respect regardless of sex. | |||
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"So where do men aim for you to brush past you when there is plenty of room and what do they brush past you with? In the last 2 months i've been touched overtly by 3 men. I had to get an overnight bus from London to Glasgow and a man sat next to me. He pretended to fall asleep but would rub the back of his hand on my leg. First time i told him to stop. Second time i shoved his hand and told him if he did again i would have him removed. Third time i stood up and shouted loudly. The driver threw him off the bus. Last month a man in a bar pressed up behind me when there was noone behind him. I politely asked him to step back. He did then a minute later started again, this time with a hard on. I yelled for a member of staff and he was removed. 2 nights ago a guy walked up behind me while sat at a table, leaned over my shoulder and dropped a pound coin down my cleavage. When he went to reach for it i grabvbd his wrist and twisted. I am well aware of what is an accident and what isn't. The men who are getting very defensive mught want to think about what it's like to be a woman. Steady on. You can't grab someone by the wrist. That's assault. " And trying to touch someone in an inappropriate area is sexual assault, I think its justified | |||
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"At a slight tangent, if a husband and wife are in bed together and the husband reaches out and touches his wife's breast, on purpose but uninvited, is that groping or intimacy?" I'd always touch gently somewhere more neutral on the body and wait for them to open up and give bodily consent before touching my partners anywhere more intimate. But that's just me. And them. | |||
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"At a slight tangent, if a husband and wife are in bed together and the husband reaches out and touches his wife's breast, on purpose but uninvited, is that groping or intimacy?" It depends on their relationship. If they are having problems and the relationship has broken down, then it can be considered groping and/ or sexual assault. | |||
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"Any man or boy who has touched me uninvited tends to limp away. It makes them reconsider doing it again." Remind me to get you to sign a consent forms :p | |||
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"At a slight tangent, if a husband and wife are in bed together and the husband reaches out and touches his wife's breast, on purpose but uninvited, is that groping or intimacy? I'd always touch gently somewhere more neutral on the body and wait for them to open up and give bodily consent before touching my partners anywhere more intimate. But that's just me. And them." But if your partner went for your breasts first, would you regard that as inappropriate or be pleased for the opportunity to reciprocate? | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. Haha! I might start doing that! Good to know some guys on here seem to think i don't know the difference between an accident and "an accident". Try walking around in my body one day guys. Just because women don't grope you doesn't mean that men dont grope me. And nice to see the bitterness coming out. Another easy filter." I went to a guy bar and didn't get groped once | |||
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"At a slight tangent, if a husband and wife are in bed together and the husband reaches out and touches his wife's breast, on purpose but uninvited, is that groping or intimacy? I'd always touch gently somewhere more neutral on the body and wait for them to open up and give bodily consent before touching my partners anywhere more intimate. But that's just me. And them." Lol all we wanna do when we go to bed is sleep, maybe that's just our age | |||
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"Okay so if a woman tries feeling my arse or my crotch, its right for me to get aggressive with her? It should be " You get alot of women wanting to grab your arse then? | |||
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"Okay so if a woman tries feeling my arse or my crotch, its right for me to get aggressive with her? It should be " Apparently so. There's some horrible violent people about. | |||
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"Okay so if a woman tries feeling my arse or my crotch, its right for me to get aggressive with her? It should be You get alot of women wanting to grab your arse then? " Yeah they do and its not something im fond of especially from a randomer in town but apparently you're not allowed hit woman no matter what but they're allowed hit men... Makes a lot of sense doesnt it | |||
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"Okay so if a woman tries feeling my arse or my crotch, its right for me to get aggressive with her? It should be You get alot of women wanting to grab your arse then? Yeah they do and its not something im fond of especially from a randomer in town but apparently you're not allowed hit woman no matter what but they're allowed hit men... Makes a lot of sense doesnt it" On that occasion I'd told the guy to back off several times, evidently didn't get the message and was warned. His stupidity. | |||
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"So where do men aim for you to brush past you when there is plenty of room and what do they brush past you with? In the last 2 months i've been touched overtly by 3 men. I had to get an overnight bus from London to Glasgow and a man sat next to me. He pretended to fall asleep but would rub the back of his hand on my leg. First time i told him to stop. Second time i shoved his hand and told him if he did again i would have him removed. Third time i stood up and shouted loudly. The driver threw him off the bus. Last month a man in a bar pressed up behind me when there was noone behind him. I politely asked him to step back. He did then a minute later started again, this time with a hard on. I yelled for a member of staff and he was removed. 2 nights ago a guy walked up behind me while sat at a table, leaned over my shoulder and dropped a pound coin down my cleavage. When he went to reach for it i grabvbd his wrist and twisted. I am well aware of what is an accident and what isn't. The men who are getting very defensive mught want to think about what it's like to be a woman. Steady on. You can't grab someone by the wrist. That's assault. And trying to touch someone in an inappropriate area is sexual assault, I think its justified" If you read back up you'll get the context of my post. | |||
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"you're not allowed hit woman no matter what but they're allowed hit men... Makes a lot of sense doesnt it" its a very good point, i agree women need to protect themselves, i agree no man should ever hit a woman regardless, i agree this is a double standard, it totally does not stand up to scrutiny, but it isnt wrong really | |||
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"So where do men aim for you to brush past you when there is plenty of room and what do they brush past you with? In the last 2 months i've been touched overtly by 3 men. I had to get an overnight bus from London to Glasgow and a man sat next to me. He pretended to fall asleep but would rub the back of his hand on my leg. First time i told him to stop. Second time i shoved his hand and told him if he did again i would have him removed. Third time i stood up and shouted loudly. The driver threw him off the bus. Last month a man in a bar pressed up behind me when there was noone behind him. I politely asked him to step back. He did then a minute later started again, this time with a hard on. I yelled for a member of staff and he was removed. 2 nights ago a guy walked up behind me while sat at a table, leaned over my shoulder and dropped a pound coin down my cleavage. When he went to reach for it i grabvbd his wrist and twisted. I am well aware of what is an accident and what isn't. The men who are getting very defensive mught want to think about what it's like to be a woman. Steady on. You can't grab someone by the wrist. That's assault. And trying to touch someone in an inappropriate area is sexual assault, I think its justified If you read back up you'll get the context of my post. " I don't see any context, just words | |||
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"The creeps on buses and trains, the guys in the bar who rub past you when there's tons of space, those ones. What's your response? Personally they get dogs abuse from me so everyone in the place can hear. Grab there wrist, hold it up and ask who this belongs to because it was touching you. Haha! I might start doing that! Good to know some guys on here seem to think i don't know the difference between an accident and "an accident". Try walking around in my body one day guys. Just because women don't grope you doesn't mean that men dont grope me. And nice to see the bitterness coming out. Another easy filter." Sorry to bug you but your above text is a bit confusing, whats the difference between an accident and an accident. And how does one walk around in your body ?????? Once again sorry for bugging | |||
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"you're not allowed hit woman no matter what but they're allowed hit men... Makes a lot of sense doesnt it its a very good point, i agree women need to protect themselves, i agree no man should ever hit a woman regardless, i agree this is a double standard, it totally does not stand up to scrutiny, but it isnt wrong really" You say that when ones coming at you with a knife. We can even carve it into your headstone if you like "at least I didn't hit her" | |||
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"Living in the country I am always grateful for the odd fumble...... Seriously though it's when guys don't find me attractive I will worry.... I use to pinch guys bums all the time when l was a barmaid nobody minded " I was waiting for someone to add a little balance to an otherwise imbalanced thread, - good on you!! Ye perv!! | |||
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"Okay so if a woman tries feeling my arse or my crotch, its right for me to get aggressive with her? It should be You get alot of women wanting to grab your arse then? Yeah they do and its not something im fond of especially from a randomer in town but apparently you're not allowed hit woman no matter what but they're allowed hit men... Makes a lot of sense doesnt it" No, you shouldn't hit women. You shouldn't hit men either. Women shouldn't lash out either. Verbal responses are often more effective anyway. Use police if necessary. Don't get physical | |||
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"And look how the conversation has changed! From men groping a woman and being at fault to women being at fault because men think they can't hit them. Men and women live in very different worlds." My point was if you saw a guy battering the face of a woman because she pinched his arse would you think she deserved it | |||
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"it wouldnt say that, it would say, "restraining her until the police came, didnt work"" Ever tried restraining someone who's armed and trying to kill you without blows? Cause trust me it doesn't work. | |||
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"it wouldnt say that, it would say, "restraining her until the police came, didnt work" Ever tried restraining someone who's armed and trying to kill you without blows? Cause trust me it doesn't work. " an extreme example but ok, | |||
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"And look how the conversation has changed! From men groping a woman and being at fault to women being at fault because men think they can't hit them. Men and women live in very different worlds. My point was if you saw a guy battering the face of a woman because she pinched his arse would you think she deserved it" I am a firm believer in approriate responses. When the stranger at the bar kissed me, i slapped his face. When the guy dropped money in my cleavage and had his fingers in my bra, i twisted his wrist til he cried. Now when exactly should i have stopped him and how? I have NEVER touched a stranger inappropriately and if a women were to geel ur ass i would expect you to remove hwr hand strongly. What you men dont understand is that as men you are physically more intimidating. You are steonger and taller so an inappropriate touch from you, immediately shocks us. I am 5'4". Most men are stronger and bigger than me. Noone gas the right to touch anyone but until you have walked down the atreet as me, you have NO IDEA how you will feel when men leer, shout, stand infront of you in the street to stop you walking. You juat can't gwt it. | |||
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"Living in the country I am always grateful for the odd fumble...... Seriously though it's when guys don't find me attractive I will worry.... I use to pinch guys bums all the time when l was a barmaid nobody minded I was waiting for someone to add a little balance to an otherwise imbalanced thread, - good on you!! Ye perv!! " Thanks | |||
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"Depends how good looking he was.... Comments like this don't help either." Don't help what, - your argument? | |||
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"Depends how good looking he was.... Comments like this don't help either. Don't help what, - your argument? " It doesn't help women who don't want to be sexually assaulted by strangers. I just assumed that was the majority. Excuse me if i'm wrong. | |||
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"it wouldnt say that, it would say, "restraining her until the police came, didnt work" Ever tried restraining someone who's armed and trying to kill you without blows? Cause trust me it doesn't work. an extreme example but ok, " People coming at you with a knife are generally going to kill you if they get the chance even if they don't mean to you'd be surprised just how many arteries you've got spread about in places the movies show it perfectly fine to get shot or stabbed in. | |||
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"Id be a right slut if i was a woman This is an attitude i can't even get my head around. " loosen up, he was just messing around | |||
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"You could always invest in a panic alarm, take self defence classes or take photo evidence and report them. " Or i could just expect not to be groped and assualted by men when i'm walking around. Wouldn't that be nice? | |||
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"Id be a right slut if i was a woman This is an attitude i can't even get my head around. loosen up, he was just messing around" Yeah we women need to get a sense of humour about these things don't we? | |||
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"You could always invest in a panic alarm, take self defence classes or take photo evidence and report them. Or i could just expect not to be groped and assualted by men when i'm walking around. Wouldn't that be nice?" Are you ever accidentally groped by women? Just askin'. | |||
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"did anyone else mention knifes on this thread though, not really comparable " it was in response to you rather stupid statement that a man should never hit a woman regardless of the situation. Having been in that situation I can say yeah you fucking hit them and even then don't think you're coming away from it without losing some skin. | |||
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"You could always invest in a panic alarm, take self defence classes or take photo evidence and report them. Or i could just expect not to be groped and assualted by men when i'm walking around. Wouldn't that be nice? Are you ever accidentally groped by women? Just askin'. " Theres no such thing as an accidental grope. And no. A woman has never touched me inappropriately. | |||
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"its clear you are talking from experience and applied what i said to what is relevant to you, see you point, end it here shall we" Fair enough. And yeah aim for the gut though not the face got a still be a little bit of a gent | |||
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"So where do men aim for you to brush past you when there is plenty of room and what do they brush past you with? In the last 2 months i've been touched overtly by 3 men. I had to get an overnight bus from London to Glasgow and a man sat next to me. He pretended to fall asleep but would rub the back of his hand on my leg. First time i told him to stop. Second time i shoved his hand and told him if he did again i would have him removed. Third time i stood up and shouted loudly. The driver threw him off the bus. Last month a man in a bar pressed up behind me when there was noone behind him. I politely asked him to step back. He did then a minute later started again, this time with a hard on. I yelled for a member of staff and he was removed. 2 nights ago a guy walked up behind me while sat at a table, leaned over my shoulder and dropped a pound coin down my cleavage. When he went to reach for it i grabvbd his wrist and twisted. I am well aware of what is an accident and what isn't. The men who are getting very defensive mught want to think about what it's like to be a woman." You have a lot of bad luck .. as in wrong place at wrong time | |||
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"So where do men aim for you to brush past you when there is plenty of room and what do they brush past you with? In the last 2 months i've been touched overtly by 3 men. I had to get an overnight bus from London to Glasgow and a man sat next to me. He pretended to fall asleep but would rub the back of his hand on my leg. First time i told him to stop. Second time i shoved his hand and told him if he did again i would have him removed. Third time i stood up and shouted loudly. The driver threw him off the bus. Last month a man in a bar pressed up behind me when there was noone behind him. I politely asked him to step back. He did then a minute later started again, this time with a hard on. I yelled for a member of staff and he was removed. 2 nights ago a guy walked up behind me while sat at a table, leaned over my shoulder and dropped a pound coin down my cleavage. When he went to reach for it i grabvbd his wrist and twisted. I am well aware of what is an accident and what isn't. The men who are getting very defensive mught want to think about what it's like to be a woman. You have a lot of bad luck .. as in wrong place at wrong time" Ive lived all over europe and since i turned 17 men have been doing it all my life. I dont know why. I seem to attract that kind of arsehole mentality. New york is the worst but the uk is in the top 3. I know its not just me because i see the same pricks shout the same shit or go rub up against another woman after me, i just dont understand how these men think its ok. Did their parents not tell them that was unnacceptable behaviour or do they think they're just so goddamn amazing that every woman would beg them for their attention? | |||
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"So where do men aim for you to brush past you when there is plenty of room and what do they brush past you with? In the last 2 months i've been touched overtly by 3 men. I had to get an overnight bus from London to Glasgow and a man sat next to me. He pretended to fall asleep but would rub the back of his hand on my leg. First time i told him to stop. Second time i shoved his hand and told him if he did again i would have him removed. Third time i stood up and shouted loudly. The driver threw him off the bus. Last month a man in a bar pressed up behind me when there was noone behind him. I politely asked him to step back. He did then a minute later started again, this time with a hard on. I yelled for a member of staff and he was removed. 2 nights ago a guy walked up behind me while sat at a table, leaned over my shoulder and dropped a pound coin down my cleavage. When he went to reach for it i grabvbd his wrist and twisted. I am well aware of what is an accident and what isn't. The men who are getting very defensive mught want to think about what it's like to be a woman. You have a lot of bad luck .. as in wrong place at wrong time Ive lived all over europe and since i turned 17 men have been doing it all my life. I dont know why. I seem to attract that kind of arsehole mentality. New york is the worst but the uk is in the top 3. I know its not just me because i see the same pricks shout the same shit or go rub up against another woman after me, i just dont understand how these men think its ok. Did their parents not tell them that was unnacceptable behaviour or do they think they're just so goddamn amazing that every woman would beg them for their attention?" Methinks you do protest too much, you love it really. | |||
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"So where do men aim for you to brush past you when there is plenty of room and what do they brush past you with? In the last 2 months i've been touched overtly by 3 men. I had to get an overnight bus from London to Glasgow and a man sat next to me. He pretended to fall asleep but would rub the back of his hand on my leg. First time i told him to stop. Second time i shoved his hand and told him if he did again i would have him removed. Third time i stood up and shouted loudly. The driver threw him off the bus. Last month a man in a bar pressed up behind me when there was noone behind him. I politely asked him to step back. He did then a minute later started again, this time with a hard on. I yelled for a member of staff and he was removed. 2 nights ago a guy walked up behind me while sat at a table, leaned over my shoulder and dropped a pound coin down my cleavage. When he went to reach for it i grabvbd his wrist and twisted. I am well aware of what is an accident and what isn't. The men who are getting very defensive mught want to think about what it's like to be a woman. You have a lot of bad luck .. as in wrong place at wrong time Ive lived all over europe and since i turned 17 men have been doing it all my life. I dont know why. I seem to attract that kind of arsehole mentality. New york is the worst but the uk is in the top 3. I know its not just me because i see the same pricks shout the same shit or go rub up against another woman after me, i just dont understand how these men think its ok. Did their parents not tell them that was unnacceptable behaviour or do they think they're just so goddamn amazing that every woman would beg them for their attention? Methinks you do protest too much, you love it really. " I'm getting banned from the forum and i dont care. Go fuck yourself. | |||
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