FabSwingers.com > Forums > The Lounge > Over the counter ....
Over the counter ....
Jump to: Newest in thread
 |
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
Apparantly...
They are trialing selling the pill over the counter in the isle of wight .
Some say this will cause even more problems. .
And parents dont like it because they say they have a right to know if their daughters are taking it.
What are your thoughts ?  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I think it puts the parents in an impossible situation.
On the one hand, they are expected to be socially, legally and morally responsible for their children.
Yet they are expected to ignore the fact that their child may be sexually active, and can ignore their ability to consent or not to them having contraceptives, as they are bi-passed in the decision-making process by a chemist. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
children have had the ability to get the pill without their parents knowing for a long time now, at least be glad that some children are acting responsibly |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"children have had the ability to get the pill without their parents knowing for a long time now, at least be glad that some children are acting responsibly"
having underage sex is being responsible?? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"children have had the ability to get the pill without their parents knowing for a long time now, at least be glad that some children are acting responsibly
having underage sex is being responsible??"
underage sex happens thats why we have 15 year old mothers. a lot of these girls cant talk to their parents and if buying the pill and condoms keeps them safe then so be it. Children can go to the doctors and get the pill and condoms without their parents knowing this has been happening for at least 10 years. I worked as a medical receptionist and knew some of the kids who cam into the surgery to collect their condoms from "behind the desk" |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
i can see the point that at least they are trying to be safe but i dont think it is right that children so young are going onto contraceptive pills. no matter how safe they are, prolonged use is bund to affect your body. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"i can see the point that at least they are trying to be safe but i dont think it is right that children so young are going onto contraceptive pills. no matter how safe they are, prolonged use is bund to affect your body."
I agree but it is a sign of the times that kids are now growing up so fast. Parents are inbetween a rock and a hard place when it comes to kids today |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"i can see the point that at least they are trying to be safe but i dont think it is right that children so young are going onto contraceptive pills. no matter how safe they are, prolonged use is bund to affect your body.
I agree but it is a sign of the times that kids are now growing up so fast. Parents are inbetween a rock and a hard place when it comes to kids today"
now, dont shoot me down cos i am not a parent and i am not saying this is ALL parents as i know that the majority of them out there are good parents but i think that there is too much pareting being done by teachers, doctors, etc
maybe this is because parents have gotten younger and have not got the life experience to deal with situations etc |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Maybe, just maybe, a mother finding pills in her daughters schoolbag is just what she needs to realise her offspring is sexually active and then sit her down and talk the whole thing through. It's a start and it's going a long way to preventing young girls ruining their lives before they've even begun. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I think that it should be available from chemists anyway...
I have discussed this with my daughters... (aged 12 and 14)
Yes I would rather they did not have sex at 15 but I would rather they were well voiced on protection.
Katie. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Maybe, just maybe, a mother finding pills in her daughters schoolbag is just what she needs to realise her offspring is sexually active and then sit her down and talk the whole thing through. It's a start and it's going a long way to preventing young girls ruining their lives before they've even begun."
to some extent i agree ...but as a swinger what would you say to them ,do as i say not as i do ??
interested of tewksbury  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *eizvollWoman
over a year ago
in my own little world :-) |
And maybe - just maybe, it's the parents responsibility to talk to their children - sons and daughters - before they are even likely to be thinking about having sex and explaining the responsibilities that accompany sharing your body with another.
It still would not stop it - but at least a lot more of them would be making informed decisions and would be aware of the risks. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
personally i would feel as though i had failed as a parent with regards to my daughter feeling she had to go behind my back..... both our daughter and son talk openly with em regarding sex and contraception...... keeping the channels open is the key but not always easy xxxxx  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
This is a hard one because if you talk to them about contraception it's like you are condoning them having sex. If you don't talk to them they may go elsewhere or not take any contraception at all.
Surely they should be enchoraging condoms not the pill...the pill only protects from pregnancy not STDs! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *eizvollWoman
over a year ago
in my own little world :-) |
"This is a hard one because if you talk to them about contraception it's like you are condoning them having sex. If you don't talk to them they may go elsewhere or not take any contraception at all.
Surely they should be enchoraging condoms not the pill...the pill only protects from pregnancy not STDs!"
But then surely talking to them openly and honestly, and being there when they have questions is better than just leaving them with playground gossip? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"This is a hard one because if you talk to them about contraception it's like you are condoning them having sex. If you don't talk to them they may go elsewhere or not take any contraception at all.
Surely they should be enchoraging condoms not the pill...the pill only protects from pregnancy not STDs!"
thats an interesting take on it ...but condoms only help protect there is no guarantee .
Re sex education ,with most kids having witnessed hard core porn by the average age of 8 via the internet,maybe lessons on respect or how to behave would be better for society |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I hope that I am open enough with my daughter that she will come to me if she needs to. If not that she will know enough from me about how to protect herself and where to go. I'd rather she protected herself than got caught with a disease and pregnant.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"This is a hard one because if you talk to them about contraception it's like you are condoning them having sex. If you don't talk to them they may go elsewhere or not take any contraception at all.
Surely they should be enchoraging condoms not the pill...the pill only protects from pregnancy not STDs!
But then surely talking to them openly and honestly, and being there when they have questions is better than just leaving them with playground gossip?"
My daughter is only 13 and whenever a storyline comes up in soaps we tend to have a conversation about it so it doesn't become a taboo subject. My kids (son 11 too) are quite enquiring and not affraid to ask so I consider us quite open and close.
I still worry the hell about them catching something though! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
no matter what way you look at it if they going to have sex they will find a way of doing it so fair play if they have there heads screwed on and having safe sex, im sure there a few parents on here who didnt wait till they were 16 to have sex so cant really do one thing and tell there child to another thing when they didnt............ |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"no matter what way you look at it if they going to have sex they will find a way of doing it so fair play if they have there heads screwed on and having safe sex, im sure there a few parents on here who didnt wait till they were 16 to have sex so cant really do one thing and tell there child to another thing when they didnt............"
Haha that's what worries me!  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"This is a hard one because if you talk to them about contraception it's like you are condoning them having sex. If you don't talk to them they may go elsewhere or not take any contraception at all.
Surely they should be enchoraging condoms not the pill...the pill only protects from pregnancy not STDs!
But then surely talking to them openly and honestly, and being there when they have questions is better than just leaving them with playground gossip?
My daughter is only 13 and whenever a storyline comes up in soaps we tend to have a conversation about it so it doesn't become a taboo subject. My kids (son 11 too) are quite enquiring and not affraid to ask so I consider us quite open and close.
I still worry the hell about them catching something though! "
i think thats healthy we have been repressed as a nation over sex for so long..I personally think its great that people talk about it when their kids ask questions ...it is a natural act after all and only dirty if you make it dirty. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Im not sure that kids now days are any different from when we were all teenagers. How many of you spoke to yr parents before having sex for the first time and I bet there is a large majority that had sex before they were 16.
So in answer to the Pill being available over the counter, I dont think it will make any difference nor do I think it will reduce teenage pregnancy. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Apparantly...
They are trialing selling the pill over the counter in the isle of wight .
Some say this will cause even more problems. .
And parents dont like it because they say they have a right to know if their daughters are taking it.
What are your thoughts ? "
There are plus points and negative ones in this action. I would say its more positive ones if it helps to reduce unwanted pregnancy's though. from a purely selfish point there will be less single mothers requiring housing and support. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Re sex education ,with most kids having witnessed hard core porn by the average age of 8 via the internet"
What a load of bull! Most kids of 8 years of age are not allowed on the net on their own at home, schools and public sites block access to porn as well.
Children see situations on tv at that age but its laughable to suggest most have access to hard core porn at 8 years of age. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
am i wrong but i thought that before handing out the pill a doctor will do a medical and pick the right one?
surely over the counter pill would mean some health risks |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
When I started my periods at 13, my mother handed me a pack of Dr White's and told me, "that means you can't sleep with boys!" That was my sex education.
I knew if I had daughter's I'd do things differently. My daughter's have been able to ask me anything and they have: nothing was taboo. The answers were tailored to the age they asked: being honest without being graphic so they weren't "educated" in the playground: they were able to share what their mum said.
What is sad that 13 year olds are having sex, and from the comments some think it's ok! The pill is not being prescribed by a doctor, but a chemist, and no one finds that alarming!
No one thinks it strange that if your 16 year old child needs to have a medical procedure ie a MRI you have to give your written consent because your child is a minor, but your 13 year old can be given birth control by a chemist!
My daughter's are adults, but I find this situation very sad. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"
Re sex education ,with most kids having witnessed hard core porn by the average age of 8 via the internet
What a load of bull! Most kids of 8 years of age are not allowed on the net on their own at home, schools and public sites block access to porn as well.
Children see situations on tv at that age but its laughable to suggest most have access to hard core porn at 8 years of age."
A recent report on internet usage suggests that around 35% of children age 6 to 9 are not supervised at home while using the internet.
My Godson is one of them. His Dad doesn't have the first clue about the internet, can barely work his phone. When I stayed the night about a year ago, I used my Godson's laptop. His history was filled with porn, and stuff no 11 year old should be seeing.
I chatted with him, he begged me not to tell his Dad, cause his Dad would take the piss. He doesn't have anything to do with his mom. I didn't tell his Dad, rightly or wrongly, but I did set up restrictions on his computer. But more importantly, I gave him some websites that catered for children of his age regarding sex and relationships. And made him promise if he needed any help, then he was to come find me.
And he does. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Re sex education ,with most kids having witnessed hard core porn by the average age of 8 via the internet
What a load of bull! Most kids of 8 years of age are not allowed on the net on their own at home, schools and public sites block access to porn as well.
Children see situations on tv at that age but its laughable to suggest most have access to hard core porn at 8 years of age.
A recent report on internet usage suggests that around 35% of children age 6 to 9 are not supervised at home while using the internet.
My Godson is one of them. His Dad doesn't have the first clue about the internet, can barely work his phone. When I stayed the night about a year ago, I used my Godson's laptop. His history was filled with porn, and stuff no 11 year old should be seeing.
I chatted with him, he begged me not to tell his Dad, cause his Dad would take the piss. He doesn't have anything to do with his mom. I didn't tell his Dad, rightly or wrongly, but I did set up restrictions on his computer. But more importantly, I gave him some websites that catered for children of his age regarding sex and relationships. And made him promise if he needed any help, then he was to come find me.
And he does. "
Your godson is very lucky he has someone he can talk to. I don't think anyone believes some children don't have an interest in sex. I know it may sound extreme, but if society is saying it's ok to give children the pill - and a 13 year old is a child - then paedophilia cant be a crime - as we're already accepting the sexualisation of children!  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Re sex education ,with most kids having witnessed hard core porn by the average age of 8 via the internet
What a load of bull! Most kids of 8 years of age are not allowed on the net on their own at home, schools and public sites block access to porn as well.
Children see situations on tv at that age but its laughable to suggest most have access to hard core porn at 8 years of age.
A recent report on internet usage suggests that around 35% of children age 6 to 9 are not supervised at home while using the internet.
My Godson is one of them. His Dad doesn't have the first clue about the internet, can barely work his phone. When I stayed the night about a year ago, I used my Godson's laptop. His history was filled with porn, and stuff no 11 year old should be seeing.
I chatted with him, he begged me not to tell his Dad, cause his Dad would take the piss. He doesn't have anything to do with his mom. I didn't tell his Dad, rightly or wrongly, but I did set up restrictions on his computer. But more importantly, I gave him some websites that catered for children of his age regarding sex and relationships. And made him promise if he needed any help, then he was to come find me.
And he does. "
Although I dont monitor my kids when they are on the net by sitting next to them they are always in the same room.
The have different user names on the laptop and have the securities set up for their age group. Their Web Browsers are all set for a well known childrens channel which also wont let them access anything they should not see.
I have all the password and monitor their accounts.
They have MSN as they talk to their dad on it but all conversations are saved so I can check what is being said and I monitor their emails. I feel like bloody big brother but It has got to be done.
The majority of parents who I chat to in the playground have the same sort of set up, so I totally disagree that majority of 8 year olds have seen hard core porn.
Schools are constantly sending out letters about internet safety.
In this day and age it is impossible to deny your child access to the internet.
Alot of homework requires research. And a lot of senior schools now have interactive homework where it is set, completed and submitted online.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
But back to the original post. It does not say anywhere in it that it will be sold to girls under 16. Has anyone actually seen the article saying that it does. Would like to read it for myself out of curiosity |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
In my kids school the school nurse has been handing out the pill,giving the kids condoms and the girls can get the injection there,this has been going on for years,i would be happier knowing that my daughter could go to the nurse or a chemist to get contracepion than end up with an unwanted pregnancy if she had ever felt she couldnt come to me. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Have now read the Telegraph article which says women and girls under 16.
Having had my god daughter who found herself pregnant 2 months before her 16th birthday I did ask her why she had not gone to the doctors, her aunt is the receptionist and was worried that she would mention that she had been seen at the doctors to her mum.
If young teens had more access to councilers and clinics for advice on sexual health issues as well as other teenage health issues as in other european countries maybe there would be less problem with teenage pregnancies.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I'd rather my taxes were spent on forcing the pill on every teenage girl under 16 than on benefits for the unwanted and unloved results of them not taking it."
Agree with this apart from the word 'forcing' lol.
I think its great that it'll be readily available over the counter. Not just for anyone underage but for those who have the unfortunate condom split. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I agree with purpljin,ive always been open with my kids about sex education and contraception anything they have wanted to know i have been as honest as i can but not everyones parents are and not all kids someone they can confide in.
I think the more places people can get contraception, including underage kids the more likely they are going to ask for it. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Apparantly...
They are trialing selling the pill over the counter in the isle of wight .
Some say this will cause even more problems. .
And parents dont like it because they say they have a right to know if their daughters are taking it.
What are your thoughts ? "
you have no rights to know if your daughters taking it anyway, girls as young as 13 can have family planning in total confidance, my daughter had the 5 year implant put in when she was only 14, i was horrified and went to see the clinic who did it and they told me they had no obligation to tll me |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"children have had the ability to get the pill without their parents knowing for a long time now, at least be glad that some children are acting responsibly
having underage sex is being responsible??"
no its not but having protected underage sex is more responcable then getting pregnant at 15 surely? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
