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"Let's start again shall we. Interesting article in cosmopolitan. Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi. " Uber taxis have revolutionised the cab industry in the USA and it is about time our cab industry generally and private hire particularly came into the 21st Century. As a regular Uber user, my comments are based on real life experience and not on an irrational fear of change that tends to get broadcast in the media. There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards. | |||
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"Let's start again shall we. Interesting article in cosmopolitan. Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi. Uber taxis have revolutionised the cab industry in the USA and it is about time our cab industry generally and private hire particularly came into the 21st Century. As a regular Uber user, my comments are based on real life experience and not on an irrational fear of change that tends to get broadcast in the media. There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards." I don't often agree with some of your posts but on this I do agree. I'm not saying rapes in uber cars do not happen but I do wonder if some of the stories are made worse to help the black taxi's out. Plus with any luck it'll help get rid of Addison lee, horrible drivers there. | |||
"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare. "Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded. I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful. This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services. | |||
"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.
Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.
I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.
This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services."All very well if what you say is true. Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices. | |||
"Let's start again shall we. Interesting article in cosmopolitan. Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi. " How about they just make sure their drivers don't rape female customers? | |||
" There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards." Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear. | |||
"Let's start again shall we. Interesting article in cosmopolitan. Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi. Uber taxis have revolutionised the cab industry in the USA and it is about time our cab industry generally and private hire particularly came into the 21st Century. As a regular Uber user, my comments are based on real life experience and not on an irrational fear of change that tends to get broadcast in the media. There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards. I don't often agree with some of your posts but on this I do agree. I'm not saying rapes in uber cars do not happen but I do wonder if some of the stories are made worse to help the black taxi's out. Plus with any luck it'll help get rid of Addison lee, horrible drivers there. " How can you make a rape story worse ? | |||
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"I thought every private hire company would give you the same advice now, they give you the reg of the car picking you up and the name of the driver so you don't get into an unlicensed cab. So it seems there have been two instances across the world of an assault so your title is a bit like a newspapers headline to scaremonger. I am guessing Black cabs business is going down?" I copied and pasted the headline so no scaremongering on my behalf. There have been many instances of tapes by uber drivers , a lot more than two. Hence the ban on uber in many countries. Business is fine thanks for your concern. But we all have to try and keep the standard up in our own industries otherwise no one will feel safe in a taxi. | |||
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"I thought every private hire company would give you the same advice now, they give you the reg of the car picking you up and the name of the driver so you don't get into an unlicensed cab. So it seems there have been two instances across the world of an assault so your title is a bit like a newspapers headline to scaremonger. I am guessing Black cabs business is going down? I copied and pasted the headline so no scaremongering on my behalf. There have been many instances of tapes by uber drivers , a lot more than two. Hence the ban on uber in many countries. Business is fine thanks for your concern. But we all have to try and keep the standard up in our own industries otherwise no one will feel safe in a taxi. " I can only tell you that in the time that I have been coming to the US, the Uber concept has completely taken over from regular cabs almost everywhere apart from Manhattan. It is better for drivers because they are not paid a pittance by gangster private companies and it is better for users because the technology is better, the cars are better and the fares are better. I am not aware of any more incidents of "shady" practices over and above what is normal in day to day life. I have certainly never heard of Uber operators in any way victim is in their clients. Uber is massive over here and if it had anything remotely like the issues you allude to, then this explosion of popularity would never have happened. | |||
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" Now I am guessing they have to have CRB checks or the equivalent to be able to drive the taxis? )" Uber drivers may well be subject to some form of check , in some instances this is just a letter of good behaviour from an embassy
But the problem is how the uber management deal with the checks once they are received. Time and again drivers with past convictions have been employed by uber as they ignored the results of the check. | |||
"Uber is banned in Spain Germany Thailand South Korea Holland Belgium Japan Australia And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada It's offices have been raided in Paris Not bad for a legit company. " Porn is banned in a lot of places, as is alcohol and many of the things we believe and think as being acceptable. Holland embraces progressive drugs laws. We don't. Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours. If you don't mind me saying, your posts sound like an attack based on an agenda rather than logic. Uber has revolutionised taxis and why on earth should we not want better cars, better fares and a technology that actually works in everyone's benefit? Being stuck in a time warp and not wanting change never did any good for anyone. | |||
" Now I am guessing they have to have CRB checks or the equivalent to be able to drive the taxis? ) Uber drivers may well be subject to some form of check , in some instances this is just a letter of good behaviour from an embassy
But the problem is how the uber management deal with the checks once they are received. Time and again drivers with past convictions have been employed by uber as they ignored the results of the check. "In which case if this is true thats not right at all, so no wonder people are not amused. | |||
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"Uber is banned in Spain Germany Thailand South Korea Holland Belgium Japan Australia And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada It's offices have been raided in Paris Not bad for a legit company. Porn is banned in a lot of places, as is alcohol and many of the things we believe and think as being acceptable. Holland embraces progressive drugs laws. We don't. Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours. If you don't mind me saying, your posts sound like an attack based on an agenda rather than logic. Uber has revolutionised taxis and why on earth should we not want better cars, better fares and a technology that actually works in everyone's benefit? Being stuck in a time warp and not wanting change never did any good for anyone." bang on | |||
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"Uber is banned in Spain Germany Thailand South Korea Holland Belgium Japan Australia And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada It's offices have been raided in Paris Not bad for a legit company. Porn is banned in a lot of places, as is alcohol and many of the things we believe and think as being acceptable. Holland embraces progressive drugs laws. We don't. Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours. If you don't mind me saying, your posts sound like an attack based on an agenda rather than logic. Uber has revolutionised taxis and why on earth should we not want better cars, better fares and a technology that actually works in everyone's benefit? Being stuck in a time warp and not wanting change never did any good for anyone." There was no attack. Just posting an article where uber has felt in necessary to prong a guideline of how not to get raped by one of their drivers. The rest of my retorts were answering replies. Better fares simply isn't true. Their price surge policy can see you being charged up to ten times the quoted fare during busy periods , as the people trying to escape the Sydney terrorist incident found to their cost. No other taxi firm to my knowledge does this. Better cars ? An uber driver does not have to drive a purpose built vehicle. You could be picked up in anything. | |||
"You hear of stories in the news of women getting sexually assaulted in taxis that belong to different companies, so why pick out uber? Truth is any taxi driver working for any company could be a potential attacker." I wasn't singling out uber. Uber were singling out uber. I was just posting the headline of a magazine I came across. | |||
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"Uber is banned in Spain Germany Thailand South Korea Holland Belgium Japan Australia And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada It's offices have been raided in Paris Not bad for a legit company. Porn is banned in a lot of places, as is alcohol and many of the things we believe and think as being acceptable. Holland embraces progressive drugs laws. We don't. Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours. If you don't mind me saying, your posts sound like an attack based on an agenda rather than logic. Uber has revolutionised taxis and why on earth should we not want better cars, better fares and a technology that actually works in everyone's benefit? Being stuck in a time warp and not wanting change never did any good for anyone. There was no attack. Just posting an article where uber has felt in necessary to prong a guideline of how not to get raped by one of their drivers. The rest of my retorts were answering replies. Better fares simply isn't true. Their price surge policy can see you being charged up to ten times the quoted fare during busy periods , as the people trying to escape the Sydney terrorist incident found to their cost. No other taxi firm to my knowledge does this. Better cars ? An uber driver does not have to drive a purpose built vehicle. You could be picked up in anything. " My only experience of Uber is that I have used them more and more over the last three years as their popularity has increased in the US. I know the following to be the case in the three states that I visit most often. Drivers have a background check Cars must be under three years old and have four doors Car and driver must have liability insurance Most drivers previously worked on zero wage and a small commission working up to 18 hours a day for taxi firms. They LOVE Uber. In one city where I always stay at the same hotel I paid $40 three years ago to get from downtown to the hotel and it was normal to offer at least a $5 tip. The cars had hard plastic seats and armoured plastic between the back seat and the driver. Yesterday, I made the same trip in an almost new Skoda that was clean and smelled nice and the fare was $19 and tip not expected. It was easy to get the car, it arrived exactly when the driver said it would and he was a polite and chatty individual who made the journey enjoyable. I personally would never use a conventional cab again in the US. | |||
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"Uber is banned in Spain Germany Thailand South Korea Holland Belgium Japan Australia And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada It's offices have been raided in Paris Not bad for a legit company. Porn is banned in a lot of places, as is alcohol and many of the things we believe and think as being acceptable. Holland embraces progressive drugs laws. We don't. Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours. If you don't mind me saying, your posts sound like an attack based on an agenda rather than logic. Uber has revolutionised taxis and why on earth should we not want better cars, better fares and a technology that actually works in everyone's benefit? Being stuck in a time warp and not wanting change never did any good for anyone. There was no attack. Just posting an article where uber has felt in necessary to prong a guideline of how not to get raped by one of their drivers. The rest of my retorts were answering replies. Better fares simply isn't true. Their price surge policy can see you being charged up to ten times the quoted fare during busy periods , as the people trying to escape the Sydney terrorist incident found to their cost. No other taxi firm to my knowledge does this. Better cars ? An uber driver does not have to drive a purpose built vehicle. You could be picked up in anything. My only experience of Uber is that I have used them more and more over the last three years as their popularity has increased in the US. I know the following to be the case in the three states that I visit most often. Drivers have a background check Cars must be under three years old and have four doors Car and driver must have liability insurance Most drivers previously worked on zero wage and a small commission working up to 18 hours a day for taxi firms. They LOVE Uber. In one city where I always stay at the same hotel I paid $40 three years ago to get from downtown to the hotel and it was normal to offer at least a $5 tip. The cars had hard plastic seats and armoured plastic between the back seat and the driver. Yesterday, I made the same trip in an almost new Skoda that was clean and smelled nice and the fare was $19 and tip not expected. It was easy to get the car, it arrived exactly when the driver said it would and he was a polite and chatty individual who made the journey enjoyable. I personally would never use a conventional cab again in the US." Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours. But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London. What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here. | |||
"Let's start again shall we. Interesting article in cosmopolitan. Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi. " You take care who ever gives you a lift but as a woman I would rather used a licensed taxi and always take note of the number. | |||
" But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London. What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here. " So why are they not subject to the same taxi regulations as other firms? | |||
" But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London. What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here. So why are they not subject to the same taxi regulations as other firms?" TFL have licensed them in London without making the proper checks. They lied when they said they used a proper barrister to check the legality of their operation , when in fact they used an in house junior solicitor. Some have alluded to the fact that David Cameron has two good chums employed by uber as to why they are allowed to operate in London with no checks. Boris wants them banned. The deputy mayor wants them banned. They are subject to a high court order that is going through at the moment because of their operations. As Mr or Mrs Hot said earlier "why stand in the way of progress" but surely there should be a level playing field. Why does every other cab firm have to jump through hoops to be licensed but uber can just turn up with an app , is it because TFL are not fit for purpose or is it because they are Cameron's mates. And they don't pay tax here either as they are registered abroad. | |||
" But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London. What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here. So why are they not subject to the same taxi regulations as other firms? TFL have licensed them in London without making the proper checks. They lied when they said they used a proper barrister to check the legality of their operation , when in fact they used an in house junior solicitor. Some have alluded to the fact that David Cameron has two good chums employed by uber as to why they are allowed to operate in London with no checks. Boris wants them banned. The deputy mayor wants them banned. They are subject to a high court order that is going through at the moment because of their operations. As Mr or Mrs Hot said earlier "why stand in the way of progress" but surely there should be a level playing field. Why does every other cab firm have to jump through hoops to be licensed but uber can just turn up with an app , is it because TFL are not fit for purpose or is it because they are Cameron's mates. And they don't pay tax here either as they are registered abroad. " Firstly I cannot stand the Tories secondly I think boris is a lying sack of shit. But saying David Camermoron has friends in über and that's why they get to operate is bogus because the owner of Addison lee is a major Tory benefactor, and I assume they have the same regs as other licences firms. | |||
"What's an uber taxi? " I've heard of them, but not what makes them different other than they have an app? Can't imagine them branching out into Wigan anytime soon! | |||
" But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London. What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here. So why are they not subject to the same taxi regulations as other firms? TFL have licensed them in London without making the proper checks. They lied when they said they used a proper barrister to check the legality of their operation , when in fact they used an in house junior solicitor. Some have alluded to the fact that David Cameron has two good chums employed by uber as to why they are allowed to operate in London with no checks. Boris wants them banned. The deputy mayor wants them banned. They are subject to a high court order that is going through at the moment because of their operations. As Mr or Mrs Hot said earlier "why stand in the way of progress" but surely there should be a level playing field. Why does every other cab firm have to jump through hoops to be licensed but uber can just turn up with an app , is it because TFL are not fit for purpose or is it because they are Cameron's mates. And they don't pay tax here either as they are registered abroad. Firstly I cannot stand the Tories secondly I think boris is a lying sack of shit. But saying David Camermoron has friends in über and that's why they get to operate is bogus because the owner of Addison lee is a major Tory benefactor, and I assume they have the same regs as other licences firms. " See that's where you are wrong. Uber don't have the same regs at all. Maybe having Cameron as a chum is coincidental , but the fact is they do not have to bide by the same rules as any other cab firm in London including Addison Lea. | |||
" But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London. What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here. So why are they not subject to the same taxi regulations as other firms? TFL have licensed them in London without making the proper checks. They lied when they said they used a proper barrister to check the legality of their operation , when in fact they used an in house junior solicitor. Some have alluded to the fact that David Cameron has two good chums employed by uber as to why they are allowed to operate in London with no checks. Boris wants them banned. The deputy mayor wants them banned. They are subject to a high court order that is going through at the moment because of their operations. As Mr or Mrs Hot said earlier "why stand in the way of progress" but surely there should be a level playing field. Why does every other cab firm have to jump through hoops to be licensed but uber can just turn up with an app , is it because TFL are not fit for purpose or is it because they are Cameron's mates. And they don't pay tax here either as they are registered abroad. Firstly I cannot stand the Tories secondly I think boris is a lying sack of shit. But saying David Camermoron has friends in über and that's why they get to operate is bogus because the owner of Addison lee is a major Tory benefactor, and I assume they have the same regs as other licences firms. See that's where you are wrong. Uber don't have the same regs at all. Maybe having Cameron as a chum is coincidental , but the fact is they do not have to bide by the same rules as any other cab firm in London including Addison Lea. " That's my point I hate defending Saint David Camermoron modern day saviour of the world, but ubers licence is nothing to do with being his friend. | |||
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"I'm sure I heard on LBC that Addison Lee and other minicab companies are complaining that Uber are breaking the rules too. " Addison Lee will complain about anything that doesn't suit their agenda. | |||
" There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards. Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear. " That any company feels it needs to issue 'guidance' in relation to something as potentially serious as rape is a tad concerning.. | |||
"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.
Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.
I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.
This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.
All very well if what you say is true.
Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.
"To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's | |||
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" There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards. Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear. That any company feels it needs to issue 'guidance' in relation to something as potentially serious as rape is a tad concerning.. " Lots of taxi firms give the same advice, it is just basic common sense.....even Morrisons send you the name of the driver/ the make of the van it is coming in and the REG. | |||
"Black cabs have to embrace the new technology, if there was a black cab app I would use it every time over Uber because I know the drivers are trained and checked. If they keep their head in the sand I really fear for the industry and those who have worked hard to gain the knowledge. Compete on your better service, better vehicles and better people." there is Hailo and gett taxi | |||
"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.
Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.
I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.
This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.
All very well if what you say is true.
Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.
To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's"Not true. In some instances just a letter from your embassy stating you are of good character is enough to get you an uber license. And as has been said above , although if you have had a full DBS check it is then up to uber management what they do with the information received. And it has been proven in many instances that uber have employed rapists , drug dealers and other ex offenders. | |||
"If what you say is true Mt Polk I am sure it can all be checked and it be shut down" It is in the courts at the moment. | |||
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" There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards. Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear. That any company feels it needs to issue 'guidance' in relation to something as potentially serious as rape is a tad concerning.. Lots of taxi firms give the same advice, it is just basic common sense.....even Morrisons send you the name of the driver/ the make of the van it is coming in and the REG." my brother in law is a black cabbie and he has never been given any guidance or anything on not carrying out such crimes against passengers.. not read the actual article to be fair but it does sound iffy that they feel they need to do so for their employees.. and yes any driver can after being crb checked etc carry out an offence, that goes without saying.. | |||
"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.
Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.
I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.
This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services."I also like uber! | |||
" There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards. Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear. That any company feels it needs to issue 'guidance' in relation to something as potentially serious as rape is a tad concerning.. Lots of taxi firms give the same advice, it is just basic common sense.....even Morrisons send you the name of the driver/ the make of the van it is coming in and the REG. my brother in law is a black cabbie and he has never been given any guidance or anything on not carrying out such crimes against passengers.. .. " I meant passengers riding in the taxi have had common sense advice for years. Now it has got better with smart phones you know what car will be picking you up etc | |||
" There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards. Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear. That any company feels it needs to issue 'guidance' in relation to something as potentially serious as rape is a tad concerning.. Lots of taxi firms give the same advice, it is just basic common sense.....even Morrisons send you the name of the driver/ the make of the van it is coming in and the REG. my brother in law is a black cabbie and he has never been given any guidance or anything on not carrying out such crimes against passengers.. .. I meant passengers riding in the taxi have had common sense advice for years. Now it has got better with smart phones you know what car will be picking you up etc" I always thought that was more to cut down on unlicensed cabs and people arguing over cabs that they think have come to pick them up (granted more likely to happen at closing time than Morrisons!) rather than to protect them from being attacked by the driver | |||
"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.
Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.
I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.
This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.
All very well if what you say is true.
Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.
To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's
Not true. In some instances just a letter from your embassy stating you are of good character is enough to get you an uber license.
And as has been said above , although if you have had a full DBS check it is then up to uber management what they do with the information received. And it has been proven in many instances that uber have employed rapists , drug dealers and other ex offenders. "I am struggling to get to Uber UK website from over here but I do know that you have to have a private hire licence to be an Uber driver. The Court case is about metering and the definition of metering. When meters came out there was no such thing as mobile GPS technology. The Hackney drivers would get little support from the general public about supporting metering so they use misinformation and fear to spread alarm about Uber. Instead of trying to stick with the old ways. All cab operations should be pushing for more deregulation across the board instead of trying to keep outdated regulations that really help no one. | |||
" I always thought that was more to cut down on unlicensed cabs and people arguing over cabs that they think have come to pick them up (granted more likely to happen at closing time than Morrisons!) rather than to protect them from being attacked by the driver ." Yes, as unlicensed cabs were not safe to get into for various reasons, one of which could be sexual assault. For the rest, sometimes I think I am speaking with fork tongue  | |||
"If what you say is true Mt Polk I am sure it can all be checked and it be shut down It is in the courts at the moment. " That is about the use of a taximeters isn't it? | |||
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"If what you say is true Mt Polk I am sure it can all be checked and it be shut down It is in the courts at the moment. That is about the use of a taximeters isn't it?" You are correct. | |||
"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.
Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.
I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.
This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.
All very well if what you say is true.
Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.
To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's
Not true. In some instances just a letter from your embassy stating you are of good character is enough to get you an uber license.
And as has been said above , although if you have had a full DBS check it is then up to uber management what they do with the information received. And it has been proven in many instances that uber have employed rapists , drug dealers and other ex offenders.
I am struggling to get to Uber UK website from over here but I do know that you have to have a private hire licence to be an Uber driver.
The Court case is about metering and the definition of metering. When meters came out there was no such thing as mobile GPS technology.
The Hackney drivers would get little support from the general public about supporting metering so they use misinformation and fear to spread alarm about Uber.
Instead of trying to stick with the old ways. All cab operations should be pushing for more deregulation across the board instead of trying to keep outdated regulations that really help no one."By regulations do you mean checks too see if the driver & vehicle are suitable ? | |||
"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.
Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.
I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.
This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.
All very well if what you say is true.
Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.
To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's
Not true. In some instances just a letter from your embassy stating you are of good character is enough to get you an uber license.
And as has been said above , although if you have had a full DBS check it is then up to uber management what they do with the information received. And it has been proven in many instances that uber have employed rapists , drug dealers and other ex offenders.
I am struggling to get to Uber UK website from over here but I do know that you have to have a private hire licence to be an Uber driver.
The Court case is about metering and the definition of metering. When meters came out there was no such thing as mobile GPS technology.
The Hackney drivers would get little support from the general public about supporting metering so they use misinformation and fear to spread alarm about Uber.
Instead of trying to stick with the old ways. All cab operations should be pushing for more deregulation across the board instead of trying to keep outdated regulations that really help no one.
By regulations do you mean checks too see if the driver & vehicle are suitable ? "The car must be road legal, new and in a clean and roadworthy condition. Everyone that I have been in has been far better than any UK private hire car. The driver must have a private hire licence anyway - just as any private hire driver must have. The regulation is more about de regulating hackneys. There is no longer a need to have to study like they do. Modern technology has made it redundant, why hang on to the past? You clearly have an agenda and an unwillingness to embrace good change brought about by technology. Uber is here and it will explode in the UK as it gas in the US. Stamping your foot and demanding that things stay the same will not achieve anything and neither will making up scare stories about the competition. | |||
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"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.
Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.
I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.
This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.
All very well if what you say is true.
Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.
To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's
Not true. In some instances just a letter from your embassy stating you are of good character is enough to get you an uber license.
And as has been said above , although if you have had a full DBS check it is then up to uber management what they do with the information received. And it has been proven in many instances that uber have employed rapists , drug dealers and other ex offenders.
I am struggling to get to Uber UK website from over here but I do know that you have to have a private hire licence to be an Uber driver.
The Court case is about metering and the definition of metering. When meters came out there was no such thing as mobile GPS technology.
The Hackney drivers would get little support from the general public about supporting metering so they use misinformation and fear to spread alarm about Uber.
Instead of trying to stick with the old ways. All cab operations should be pushing for more deregulation across the board instead of trying to keep outdated regulations that really help no one.
By regulations do you mean checks too see if the driver & vehicle are suitable ?
The car must be road legal, new and in a clean and roadworthy condition. Everyone that I have been in has been far better than any UK private hire car. The driver must have a private hire licence anyway - just as any private hire driver must have.
The regulation is more about de regulating hackneys. There is no longer a need to have to study like they do. Modern technology has made it redundant, why hang on to the past?
You clearly have an agenda and an unwillingness to embrace good change brought about by technology. Uber is here and it will explode in the UK as it gas in the US. Stamping your foot and demanding that things stay the same will not achieve anything and neither will making up scare stories about the competition."Point to one thing I've made up. Uber cabs in London do not have to be new. Your are basing your uber experience from using it in a foreign country and have no knowledge of how the operate in London. Hopefully you are not travelling at peak times as that eight dollar fare is liable to surge. | |||
"If what you say is true Mt Polk I am sure it can all be checked and it be shut down It is in the courts at the moment. That is about the use of a taximeters isn't it?" Are they in court for operating illegally with letters from their mates to get a licence too as I thought thats what I was answering you about? | |||
" Hopefully you are not travelling at peak times as that eight dollar fare is liable to surge. " It does that in black cabs too if you are sat in traffic in the rush hour? | |||
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" Hopefully you are not travelling at peak times as that eight dollar fare is liable to surge. It does that in black cabs too if you are sat in traffic in the rush hour?" It doesn't. There is no such thing as surge pricing in London black cabs. | |||
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"My mistake, I thought the clock keeps ticking over when sat in traffic, which would be more traffic in rush hour, so would mean a bigger fare." Yes the clock does keep ticking over but at a lower rate. A cabbie wouldn't earn much if the meter shut down while he was sat in traffic. | |||
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"To be fair it is irrelevant about why cabbies wouldn't earn as much if it didn't happen, the fact you will probably earn a bigger fare in the rush hour is the issue. Now I don't obviously know to what extent black cabs and other taxi firms get by way of more fare, but it seems both would be getting it." If a black cab is sat in traffic the driver is earning less than if it was moving. If you are travelling at less than a few miles an hour the meter goes on waiting time. So if you are crawling along you actually earn less. Surge pricing on uber is completely different. It can charge up to ten times the quoted price for a journey at busy teams. But the main difference is this money is debited straight from your account so you can't query it. There is no phone number to contact anyone to complain. They've got your money and you can't speak to anyone to complain. In a black cab the price is there for you to see. If the meter is getting a bit pricey for you you can deal with it there and then. The driver doesn't have your money until you give it to him. If you are unhappy with the fare there is a number displayed in the cab for you to ring there and then if you wish. | |||
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"This is such an "English" debate. Fear of change and an assumption that change will be bad. It is an undisputed fact that a Hackney will charge you more than a private hire for the same journey at rush hour because the meter still ticks. The argument now is that Uber will charge more ... Up to ten times more... Really? Scare me more.. Strikes me that scaremongering is a poor way to get a point across. " How is stating facts scaremongering ? And black cabs are not more expensive. This is not an undisputed fact all. You just made it up to suit your argument. | |||
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"This is such an "English" debate. Fear of change and an assumption that change will be bad. It is an undisputed fact that a Hackney will charge you more than a private hire for the same journey at rush hour because the meter still ticks. The argument now is that Uber will charge more ... Up to ten times more... Really? Scare me more.. Strikes me that scaremongering is a poor way to get a point across. How is stating facts scaremongering ? And black cabs are not more expensive. This is not an undisputed fact all. You just made it up to suit your argument. " Of course they are. The meter still runs in traffic. As for Ubers surge pricing at high demand times you get a notification on your phone and a price estimate before the app connects you to a driver. Let's face it. The days of the Hackney are coming to an end so why not embrace the change that is coming? You state that you have not made anything up to sway your argument, but you have said that anyone with a letter from an Embassy can be a driver but that is not true, they still need a private hire licence and all that goes with it. You have also said that surge pricing at up to ten times can be applied without your knowledge. This is also not true because the price estimate is provided before you even speak to a driver. | |||
"This is such an "English" debate. Fear of change and an assumption that change will be bad. It is an undisputed fact that a Hackney will charge you more than a private hire for the same journey at rush hour because the meter still ticks. The argument now is that Uber will charge more ... Up to ten times more... Really? Scare me more.. Strikes me that scaremongering is a poor way to get a point across. How is stating facts scaremongering ? And black cabs are not more expensive. This is not an undisputed fact all. You just made it up to suit your argument. Of course they are. The meter still runs in traffic. As for Ubers surge pricing at high demand times you get a notification on your phone and a price estimate before the app connects you to a driver. Let's face it. The days of the Hackney are coming to an end so why not embrace the change that is coming? You state that you have not made anything up to sway your argument, but you have said that anyone with a letter from an Embassy can be a driver but that is not true, they still need a private hire licence and all that goes with it. You have also said that surge pricing at up to ten times can be applied without your knowledge. This is also not true because the price estimate is provided before you even speak to a driver. " Now you are making things up. Where have I said they charge without your knowledge ? | |||
"This is such an "English" debate. Fear of change and an assumption that change will be bad. It is an undisputed fact that a Hackney will charge you more than a private hire for the same journey at rush hour because the meter still ticks. The argument now is that Uber will charge more ... Up to ten times more... Really? Scare me more.. Strikes me that scaremongering is a poor way to get a point across. How is stating facts scaremongering ? And black cabs are not more expensive. This is not an undisputed fact all. You just made it up to suit your argument. Of course they are. The meter still runs in traffic. As for Ubers surge pricing at high demand times you get a notification on your phone and a price estimate before the app connects you to a driver. Let's face it. The days of the Hackney are coming to an end so why not embrace the change that is coming? You state that you have not made anything up to sway your argument, but you have said that anyone with a letter from an Embassy can be a driver but that is not true, they still need a private hire licence and all that goes with it. You have also said that surge pricing at up to ten times can be applied without your knowledge. This is also not true because the price estimate is provided before you even speak to a driver. " And because a meter is running it doesn't make it more expensive. Time and again we are told that a similar journey in a black cab is a lot cheaper than an uber ride. As you like saying. I am basing this on real life experience. | |||
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"I am out of this thread. Waste of time arguing a point with someone who argues an agenda and twists the facts to suit the agenda. Uber policies can be found on the Uber website and this covers car and driver regulations. Hackney drivers are just trying to protect their income and that can be understood, but fighting the fight with misinformation will just cause them to lose the fight faster. The change is coming and if it is anything like the United States, the face of taxi services in the UK will be unrecognisable within two years. No more from me on this." Please just point me in the direction of misinformation. I have answered every point with facts. And can you give me a number so I can ring uber to query anything ? No you can't , because there isn't one. | |||
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"I am out of this thread. Waste of time arguing a point with someone who argues an agenda and twists the facts to suit the agenda. Uber policies can be found on the Uber website and this covers car and driver regulations. Hackney drivers are just trying to protect their income and that can be understood, but fighting the fight with misinformation will just cause them to lose the fight faster. The change is coming and if it is anything like the United States, the face of taxi services in the UK will be unrecognisable within two years. No more from me on this." Coming in to this thread as late as I am, do you really think that there will be vast change to the UK taxi scene in two years?? Are you saying that 20,000 black taxis in London will be swept away? Are you saying that the fleets of black style cabs in every major UK city will be affected? Yes, there are arguments on all sides. UBER has its supporters and its detractors too, but there are flaws in its operations and it doesn't mean that just because it has been a success elsewhere that it will be an automatic success across the UK. Even as a male, given the choice of cabs, give me a black cab style vehicle every time ss I know the driver has been vetted and assessed plus I know what I am getting! | |||
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"Is it true that ÜBER are registered in Brussels to avoid tax and are taking on more than 1000 drivers per month? C..." Yes , uber are registered in Holland as a transport company so are only liable to a rate of 6% tax there. Interestingly they are registered as a technology company here but claim they are non domicile. Also many of their drivers are so poorly paid that they are claiming benefits to top up their income. So a double whammy. | |||
"To be fair it is irrelevant about why cabbies wouldn't earn as much if it didn't happen, the fact you will probably earn a bigger fare in the rush hour is the issue. Now I don't obviously know to what extent black cabs and other taxi firms get by way of more fare, but it seems both would be getting it. If a black cab is sat in traffic the driver is earning less than if it was moving. If you are travelling at less than a few miles an hour the meter goes on waiting time. So if you are crawling along you actually earn less. Surge pricing on uber is completely different. It can charge up to ten times the quoted price for a journey at busy teams. But the main difference is this money is debited straight from your account so you can't query it. " I thought they send you a price of how much a fare is going to cost before you say yes to the taxi? | |||
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"To be fair it is irrelevant about why cabbies wouldn't earn as much if it didn't happen, the fact you will probably earn a bigger fare in the rush hour is the issue. Now I don't obviously know to what extent black cabs and other taxi firms get by way of more fare, but it seems both would be getting it. If a black cab is sat in traffic the driver is earning less than if it was moving. If you are travelling at less than a few miles an hour the meter goes on waiting time. So if you are crawling along you actually earn less. Surge pricing on uber is completely different. It can charge up to ten times the quoted price for a journey at busy teams. But the main difference is this money is debited straight from your account so you can't query it. I thought they send you a price of how much a fare is going to cost before you say yes to the taxi?" An estimate. You can always turn it down. But once the journey is undertaken the money is debited and you can't reverse this process. However the actual price may be higher than the estimate depending which route the driver takes. But the money will still leave your account. You have no phone number to complain to if you are unhappy with the service. | |||
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"I have googled and googled since you started this thread and seen no mention of that or a few things you have said to be honest. As everyone knows most people make sure negative reviews are said when they get bad service, so it does seem a surprise I didn't find any although I obviously could have been looking in the wrong place. Either way, minicabs normally have to be licensed too and drivers have to have badges etc the same as Black cabs, so if this company hasn't complied with the rules of what taxi's have to do to drive on the roads then it has to be down to the licensing authority to clamp down on it. Most taxi firms have taximeters too now and not just black cabs so I can't figure out that fight either. I do think black cabs in London are part of the fixtures and fittings though, and although obviously competition is good for the customers, it would be a shame if they were out priced so much that Black cabs are no more. " What is it you are looking for ruggers , bad reviews on uber ? Because I can post many links to them. The way they have over charged customers , because I can post many links to them. Anything else I have posted that you can't find information on let me know and I'll post links to them. Or why don't you ring uber and query anything you don't understand. Oh no you can't as they don't have a landline. One of the basic requirements for a cab firm to operate in London. But they have managed to get around this as well. | |||
" Most taxi firms have taximeters too now and not just black cabs so I can't figure out that fight either. " The use of meters in taxis in London is strictly regulated. Prices are set by TFL. uber have come in and said they are not using a meter to calculate fares when they obviously are. If the higher court rules that the device they are using to calculate fares is in fact a meter then they would have been operating illegally in London fir three years. You can't have a set of laws that everyone has to obey but when a 50 billion dollar company turn up you can wave them laws. How is that fair ? | |||
" Or why don't you ring uber and query anything you don't understand. . " lol maybe time for me to bow out | |||
" Or why don't you ring uber and query anything you don't understand. . lol maybe time for me to bow out " Have I bored you into submission as well ? Mrs P gave up listening to me months ago. | |||
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" Or why don't you ring uber and query anything you don't understand. . lol maybe time for me to bow out Have I bored you into submission as well ? Mrs P gave up listening to me months ago. " No not bored, sometimes you get to a point where you think nothing anyone says will make any difference so I bow out of the discussion | |||
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"I see Uber was featured on Watchdog this week as bank accounts are being hacked. It's not clear whether the problem is at Uber's end or with each of the individuals. " Ubers accounts were hacked. Hundreds of people were getting charged for bogus journeys. Account details were being sold on the dark web for £1 a go. | |||
"Let's start again shall we. Interesting article in cosmopolitan. Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi. " So, black cabs rip you off & Uber rips them right off! | |||
" Most taxi firms have taximeters too now and not just black cabs so I can't figure out that fight either. The use of meters in taxis in London is strictly regulated. Prices are set by TFL. uber have come in and said they are not using a meter to calculate fares when they obviously are. If the higher court rules that the device they are using to calculate fares is in fact a meter then they would have been operating illegally in London fir three years. You can't have a set of laws that everyone has to obey but when a 50 billion dollar company turn up you can wave them laws. How is that fair ? " .Big business screwing over everyone again with yet more corruption and bribery. Magna carta anyone! | |||
"I have always strived to use licensed taxis whichever City I have been in. I have used the various taxi apps in London although due to the geography in central London making it very difficult. I do have an über account which I have ceased to use due to colleagues bad experiences with drivers getting lost, taking the wrong route and rigging the surge pricing. The last straw was the FBI investigation into customers accounts being cloned and funds being redirected to terrorist organisations including Isis. All this information has been reported in the mainstream press in this country. My latest research has turned up this. After the prime minister announced yesterday that after Fifa he will personally clamp down on corruption in business,,,, so his 2 best friends are head of uber UK and head of uber operations and pr, and the Tory party qc is his friend confidant and qc of uber. So David Cameron cannot make judgments, consultation, decisions, opinions, and any business as regards to taxi and private hire in the United Kingdom . If he does it is now without prejudice a conflict of interest. " . I'd have never have believed that until you wrote it.... Cameron has friends | |||
"And one of the UK's worse sexual predators was John worboys, a black cab driver "Was waiting got someone to mention that one J | |||
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