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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Do you give blood ?
Are you on the list ?
Do you know when you can donate ?
Apparently there's a huge drop in the number of donors over the last ten years.
I'd love to donate, but don't know when or where
Also you have to make an appointment, or wait three to four hours to do so if you drop in
Are they making it easy enough to donate or not ? |
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We do, it is very simple. You can either book a slot or drop-in. Google 'blood service' for the website.
Unfortunately we are still coming to terms with the fact that we may have to choose between this or swinging
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I get text messages all the time telling me stocks are low of my type and how and where to go... Think as soon as you have done it once they keep you on a database?
Maybe try their website?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I give blood every three or four months at the moment. It's extremely easy for me because they come to my workplace for regular sessions. The online system for booking appointments is quite good now, so there's no hanging about and they have a good selection of biscuits. To be honest I think they've made it as easy as they probably can, and if that's still not easy enough for some people then nothing will be.
I've always done it, except when I've had a reason to be unable to. I figure there's plenty of people who can't, and I can and I'm not squeamish about needles so I should. After all, I'd sure as hell take it if I needed it so I should donate too. |
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They used to go to works years ago it was a skive to give bloody would get an hour off a cup of tea and a biscuit we all gave it got my badge,s for so many pints you don,t see people wearing them now |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We do, it is very simple. You can either book a slot or drop-in. Google 'blood service' for the website.
Unfortunately we are still coming to terms with the fact that we may have to choose between this or swinging
Mr ddc"
Yes I've had to wait 12 months before after meeting a bisexual man, which still seems a really outdated system given I could have donated immediately after having sex with 10 heterosexual men who had never used condoms in their lives and been incredibly promiscuous |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
I donate regularly, book appointments and go.
Its one of the reasons why I will not play with bisexual men. Giving blood is more important to me than a quick shag.
I'm waiting for my next local session to get back into cycle as I had to give it 6 months after an operation recently, and that has just passed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes I do and have since I was 18.
My father died at 34, he had to have pints and pints of blood when he was ill, so I feel like I am giving something back for those who gave him those extra few months with us. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I think they're being to reactive and letting people come to them rather than being more active in advertising and recruiting new donors
apart from today's headlines. ... |
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Yes I've had to wait 12 months before after meeting a bisexual man, which still seems a really outdated system given I could have donated immediately after having sex with 10 heterosexual men who had never used condoms in their lives and been incredibly promiscuous "
It will be interesting to see if the rules change with the new HIV testing kit. I suspect they don't mind too much about other STIs as they get destroyed during processing. |
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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago
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I have an unusual blood type but they will not take my blood because I am on medication.......so until they work out a way to clean the blood as or after they take it I am not required.....oh and getting tattoos every 3-6 months is bad too |
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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago
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"Yes I've had to wait 12 months before after meeting a bisexual man, which still seems a really outdated system given I could have donated immediately after having sex with 10 heterosexual men who had never used condoms in their lives and been incredibly promiscuous "
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"Unfortunately, I was advised not to. I gave blood once in my 20's and passed out. It is not a common reaction."
So did I, passed out after giving blood at every pregnancy check up
I was advised to give blood to stop it
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
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Im a donor and very proud about it to. I'm not keen on needles but once it's in it takes about 10 minutes or so. I'm A- which is very rare so they tell me it's even more important that I go, especially as stocks are at their lowest ever. I got a keyring last time
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes I've had to wait 12 months before after meeting a bisexual man, which still seems a really outdated system given I could have donated immediately after having sex with 10 heterosexual men who had never used condoms in their lives and been incredibly promiscuous
It will be interesting to see if the rules change with the new HIV testing kit. I suspect they don't mind too much about other STIs as they get destroyed during processing."
They have to screen every donation for HIV among other things anyway, so it would be interesting to see if they did a trial opening donation to gay and bisexual men whether they ended up having to destroy more donations than they do under the current system. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I donate regularly. My 50th coming up. Always make an appointment at my donation for next time.
I do think they need to be a bit more proactive, its very often a sign outside the venue on the day asking for new donors.
Perhaps local media could give free advert in the week leading up to a visit? But then you would have charities etc, expecting the same. A poster or two, especially in places like train/bus stations, colleges etc could be arranged? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I donate regularly. My 50th coming up. Always make an appointment at my donation for next time.
I do think they need to be a bit more proactive, its very often a sign outside the venue on the day asking for new donors.
Perhaps local media could give free advert in the week leading up to a visit? But then you would have charities etc, expecting the same. A poster or two, especially in places like train/bus stations, colleges etc could be arranged?"
think our local one is on a market day ?
Don't see why they couldn't send a canvasser up and down the High street |
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Yes I've had to wait 12 months before after meeting a bisexual man, which still seems a really outdated system given I could have donated immediately after having sex with 10 heterosexual men who had never used condoms in their lives and been incredibly promiscuous
It will be interesting to see if the rules change with the new HIV testing kit. I suspect they don't mind too much about other STIs as they get destroyed during processing.
They have to screen every donation for HIV among other things anyway, so it would be interesting to see if they did a trial opening donation to gay and bisexual men whether they ended up having to destroy more donations than they do under the current system. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I donate regularly, book appointments and go.
Its one of the reasons why I will not play with bisexual men. Giving blood is more important to me than a quick shag.
I'm waiting for my next local session to get back into cycle as I had to give it 6 months after an operation recently, and that has just passed."
Out of curiosity have you ever asked them if being a swinger would exclude you. |
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"They have to screen every donation for HIV among other things anyway, so it would be interesting to see if they did a trial opening donation to gay and bisexual men whether they ended up having to destroy more donations than they do under the current system. "
Precisely. The new test may not be 100%, but I would have thought it could be used to bring the percentages in line with heterosexual people, if not better.
Anything that stops me being accused of being a homophobic bigot whenever I stray into that other forum would be a bonus too.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do you give blood ?
Are you on the list ?
Do you know when you can donate ?
Apparently there's a huge drop in the number of donors over the last ten years.
I'd love to donate, but don't know when or where
Also you have to make an appointment, or wait three to four hours to do so if you drop in
Are they making it easy enough to donate or not ? "
No, I have sex with men who are sexually intimate with other men.
Therefore I cannot give blood.
Despite my blood being in great condition and being a rare type that they are desperate for. |
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I used to but I have low blood pressure and it used to take too long to fill a bag so they'd disconnect me. And I have shocking veins so it took ages to find one in the first place. Because of that I stopped going - they only give full bags to patients so they know how much they have used.
Now I can't because of my medical history but Tbh I think they were relieved when I stopped going! |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"I'm O negative. I really should donate but because of my tattoos I have to go a
Year with out any to donate "
It's four months now rather than a year.
I still find the following guidelines a little odd.
"The Advisory Committee on the Safety of Blood, Tissues and Organs (SaBTO) advise that there is insufficient evidence available to be able to determine the impact on blood safety of introducing a system that assesses every individual's behaviour and level of risk rather than applying deferrals to groups. It is also not certain that all people could objectively assess their own level of risk.
We appreciate that it can be disappointing for anyone who wishes to donate blood but is not able to meet the current donor selection criteria.
We understand that the donor selection criteria around sexual activity can make someone feel as if they are being placed in a 'category', even if they feel that their own sexual behaviour and risk-taking would not be a risk to the blood supply.
There is a small possibility that the tests we use to test blood donations before they are used to treat patients may not pick up infections, particularly those which have been recently acquired. Therefore, we must follow deferral rules that estimate risk based on behaviour. We are sorry for any inadvertent offence this causes."
So a straight person of either gender who has multiple straight partners is assumed to be a lower risk.
Just seems a little outdated to me, especially since all stocks are routinely screened before use.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Out of curiosity have you ever asked them if being a swinger would exclude you.
The rules are quite specific, and vary for men and women.
You can find them if you google "who can't give blood""
I know the rules are specific bur I was curious if they would actually take your blood if you told them.you regularly had sex with strangers with no idea of thier sexual history. |
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Out of curiosity have you ever asked them if being a swinger would exclude you.
The rules are quite specific, and vary for men and women.
You can find them if you google "who can't give blood"
I know the rules are specific bur I was curious if they would actually take your blood if you told them.you regularly had sex with strangers with no idea of thier sexual history."
Multiple partners doesn't bother them, partners from high risk countries or men who have sex with other men does. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Out of curiosity have you ever asked them if being a swinger would exclude you.
The rules are quite specific, and vary for men and women.
You can find them if you google "who can't give blood"
I know the rules are specific bur I was curious if they would actually take your blood if you told them.you regularly had sex with strangers with no idea of thier sexual history."
'Don't ask, don't tell' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Out of curiosity have you ever asked them if being a swinger would exclude you.
The rules are quite specific, and vary for men and women.
You can find them if you google "who can't give blood"
I know the rules are specific bur I was curious if they would actually take your blood if you told them.you regularly had sex with strangers with no idea of thier sexual history.
Multiple partners doesn't bother them, partners from high risk countries or men who have sex with other men does. "
which would be the the no idea of these people sexual history bit.
Knowing a fair few TV's on here and guys I know that most of the people who claim they don't meet bi guys have veris on display from people who've met or tried to meet with TV's or other men.
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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago
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"Do you give blood ?
Are you on the list ?
Do you know when you can donate ?
Apparently there's a huge drop in the number of donors over the last ten years.
I'd love to donate, but don't know when or where
Also you have to make an appointment, or wait three to four hours to do so if you drop in
Are they making it easy enough to donate or not ? "
Im an O and give reguarly,if you visit blood.co.uk it tells you where the places to donate are ans when.You can even book an appointment now. |
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"I know the rules are specific bur I was curious if they would actually take your blood if you told them.you regularly had sex with strangers with no idea of thier sexual history.
'Don't ask, don't tell'"
That's the attitude we're discovering sadly. Or even "If asked, lie, but call it 'hiding ones sexuality'"
Thx: we're still new to this malarkey, and that's why I said we may end up having to choose.
I'm pretty sure I'd be able to spot if the person I was having sex with turned out to be a bisexual man and not a woman. The rules for Mrs ddc are different, and allow a little leeway. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
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Out of curiosity have you ever asked them if being a swinger would exclude you.
The rules are quite specific, and vary for men and women.
You can find them if you google "who can't give blood"
I know the rules are specific bur I was curious if they would actually take your blood if you told them.you regularly had sex with strangers with no idea of thier sexual history.
Multiple partners doesn't bother them, partners from high risk countries or men who have sex with other men does. "
Hence my post above.
It's a system that relies on people being open and honest. What's to stop anyone saying no to any question that would prevent them from donating?
If you're in a category that prevents you donating according to the guidelines yet have been fully tested and cleared, had no sexual contact with anyone for months - yet nine months ago did something to fall foul of the rules - is your blood any less worthy than someone else?
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I'm registered (o pos) and give blood as often as possible but have found in recent years they rarely have appointments and walking in means a long wait (once got told it will be 4 hours and that was on a Xmas eve shockingly I had better ways to spend 4 hours at that time of year)
Blood.co.uk (if I get in trouble for advertising another website I'll cry) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yes I've had to wait 12 months before after meeting a bisexual man, which still seems a really outdated system given I could have donated immediately after having sex with 10 heterosexual men who had never used condoms in their lives and been incredibly promiscuous
It will be interesting to see if the rules change with the new HIV testing kit. I suspect they don't mind too much about other STIs as they get destroyed during processing.
They have to screen every donation for HIV among other things anyway, so it would be interesting to see if they did a trial opening donation to gay and bisexual men whether they ended up having to destroy more donations than they do under the current system. " .
No I don't think that's an issue.
Its more the fact that hiv can take 6 months to show up on a test after infection so they air on the side of caution that somebody may have contracted it 3 months before donation and the test would be negative!
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By (user no longer on site)
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I can't give blood because i've had a transfusion of blood once and plasma another time. Both my parents donated loads over the years, my mum had to stop because she got ill. |
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"Unfortunately, I was advised not to. I gave blood once in my 20's and passed out. It is not a common reaction."
The same happened to my wife and they told her she needed it more than they did. I used to go, but have got out of the habit. I should really as I have a rare blood group, so rare I can't recall what it is. |
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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago
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"I think the fact that they won't take tattoos says something about the piss poor standards used by some tattooists"
I think they need to find a way to screen and potentially clean the blood before use so people who get tattoos or are on medication can donate |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think the fact that they won't take tattoos says something about the piss poor standards used by some tattooists
I think they need to find a way to screen and potentially clean the blood before use so people who get tattoos or are on medication can donate " .
They probably never thought of that! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unfortunately, I was advised not to. I gave blood once in my 20's and passed out. It is not a common reaction.
The same happened to my wife and they told her she needed it more than they did. I used to go, but have got out of the habit. I should really as I have a rare blood group, so rare I can't recall what it is." .
It doesn't make any difference anyhow, in an emergency they give everyone o negative
So if your o negative... Get donating |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yes I've had to wait 12 months before after meeting a bisexual man, which still seems a really outdated system given I could have donated immediately after having sex with 10 heterosexual men who had never used condoms in their lives and been incredibly promiscuous
It will be interesting to see if the rules change with the new HIV testing kit. I suspect they don't mind too much about other STIs as they get destroyed during processing.
They have to screen every donation for HIV among other things anyway, so it would be interesting to see if they did a trial opening donation to gay and bisexual men whether they ended up having to destroy more donations than they do under the current system. .
No I don't think that's an issue.
Its more the fact that hiv can take 6 months to show up on a test after infection so they air on the side of caution that somebody may have contracted it 3 months before donation and the test would be negative!
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But that could equally happen to a donation from a straight person who has HIV.
All other things being equal (age, background, travel history, drug use etc) is it still the case that gay and bisexual men are more likely to have HIV than heterosexual men? If it is then I can see the logic. If it's not then it's illogical. |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
"I donate regularly, book appointments and go.
Its one of the reasons why I will not play with bisexual men. Giving blood is more important to me than a quick shag.
I'm waiting for my next local session to get back into cycle as I had to give it 6 months after an operation recently, and that has just passed.
Out of curiosity have you ever asked them if being a swinger would exclude you."
We had a chat about my sexual history, and I was open about being bi-sexual - but I have had 2 sexual partners in the last 18 months, one is my lover - we were both tested before making the decision to stop using condoms (we have known each other a very long time, know each others sexual history) and the other I was safe with every time.
So perhaps not a prolific swinger - but yes open and honest about my lifestyle when it would have an impact on others. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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I think the point of it being highlighted today is because people think they can't for whatever reasons ( one being for having a tattoo ) and why they want to clarify who can and cannot give blood.
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Blood-donation/Pages/Who-can-use-it.aspx |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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So a straight person of either gender who has multiple straight partners is assumed to be a lower risk.
Just seems a little outdated to me, especially since all stocks are routinely screened before use.
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I agree |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I know the rules are specific bur I was curious if they would actually take your blood if you told them.you regularly had sex with strangers with no idea of thier sexual history.
'Don't ask, don't tell'
That's the attitude we're discovering sadly. Or even "If asked, lie, but call it 'hiding ones sexuality'"
Thx: we're still new to this malarkey, and that's why I said we may end up having to choose.
I'm pretty sure I'd be able to spot if the person I was having sex with turned out to be a bisexual man and not a woman. The rules for Mrs ddc are different, and allow a little leeway."
You not having sex with a man isn't the issue really, your wife having sex with a man who says he is straight but isn't and then you having sex with your wife could cloud the issue though.
I am surprised they have not asked whether people are swingers to be honest as we are all taking risks even playing safe as we can. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Go on line and sign up and they will tell you where your local donation will be.
They do ask about your sex life and who you have sex with etc also check you out for diseases etc see of your blood is clean Hep B n C etc ask you about STDS etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So a straight person of either gender who has multiple straight partners is assumed to be a lower risk.
Just seems a little outdated to me, especially since all stocks are routinely screened before use.
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I agree "
Also don't understand why escorts can't but swingers can, besides the money what's the difference? HIV and HepB don't understand the exchange of cash |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unfortunately yes, gay and bisexual men tend to be more promiscuous and are still at higher risk than heterosexual ones."
Whoever decided that clearly hasn't been on fab and seen all the married men playing away |
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So a straight person of either gender who has multiple straight partners is assumed to be a lower risk.
Just seems a little outdated to me, especially since all stocks are routinely screened before use.
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I agree "
It's based on simple statistics and probability.
(If only they taught these sorts of things in school. They could use sweets for example... )
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'd like to bet that out of the ten years mentioned, the biggest drop in donor numbers has been in the past 3 years - the very same 3 years as the Blood Service introduced their stupid appointment system.
At one time, I just walked in, took a seat and usually within 20-30 minutes I was on the bed and hooked up - no fuss. Then they brought out this appointment system and try to run it directly alongside a walk in system and it simply does not work.
Now I appreciate that some people are in a position to make an appointment but there are also a lot of people who aren't and therefore they walk in to a session when they have a spare hour or so - only to be, on a lot of occasions, sent away because the place has been booked up by appointments.
It's no wonder donor numbers are falling .... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yes i donate I also believe that unless on medical grounds it should be opt out not opt in as how many of folk too selfish and or lazy to donate would accept donated blood to save a life of a loved one.
As for scared of needle bit I am not keen and feel sick when I see the needle but man up and do it because a pint of my blood could help someone live price well worth paying.
Also if folk are in hospital for operations or a stay over subject to health being okay then blood should be donated especially if having blood taken for tests. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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i always wanted too but a past medical condition prevented my doing so for many years - then they changed the rules and i have donated about 20 times - but my heamoglobin levels are always border line and my veins hard to get into so several times not been able to im on medication now that prevents it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I was turned down to give blood once because I'd have a transfusion within the las 12 month
What the hells wrong with the blood they gave me that they didn't want it back |
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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago
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"Yes i donate I also believe that unless on medical grounds it should be opt out not opt in as how many of folk too selfish and or lazy to donate would accept donated blood to save a life of a loved one.
As for scared of needle bit I am not keen and feel sick when I see the needle but man up and do it because a pint of my blood could help someone live price well worth paying.
Also if folk are in hospital for operations or a stay over subject to health being okay then blood should be donated especially if having blood taken for tests."
A lot of people on this thread have said they would but the blood transfusion service won't let them. I am on medication so they won't let me even though I am AB and they want it. They need to work out how to clean blood because pretty soon there will be no one left who isn't on meds, hasn't had anal sex or doesn't get regular tattoos and then the poop will hit the fan |
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"Do you give blood ?
Are you on the list ?
Do you know when you can donate ?
Apparently there's a huge drop in the number of donors over the last ten years.
I'd love to donate, but don't know when or where
Also you have to make an appointment, or wait three to four hours to do so if you drop in
Are they making it easy enough to donate or not ? "
I have done in the past, but i'm ashamed to say not in a few years.
The story did actually make me think back to when I last did it, and reminded me to find out where my local centre is now that I'm living in a different town. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I know the rules are specific bur I was curious if they would actually take your blood if you told them.you regularly had sex with strangers with no idea of thier sexual history.
'Don't ask, don't tell'
That's the attitude we're discovering sadly. Or even "If asked, lie, but call it 'hiding ones sexuality'"
Thx: we're still new to this malarkey, and that's why I said we may end up having to choose.
I'm pretty sure I'd be able to spot if the person I was having sex with turned out to be a bisexual man and not a woman. The rules for Mrs ddc are different, and allow a little leeway.
You not having sex with a man isn't the issue really, your wife having sex with a man who says he is straight but isn't and then you having sex with your wife could cloud the issue though.
I am surprised they have not asked whether people are swingers to be honest as we are all taking risks even playing safe as we can."
No, it wouldn't matter if he was just having sex with his wife.
But his wife in that situation *would not* be able to give blood.
If a woman has slept with a man in the past 12 months who has had oral or anal sex with another man in the previous 12 months, then she cannot give blood.
It doesn't go further down the chain to her husband. |
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If a woman has slept with a man in the past 12 months who has had oral or anal sex with another man in the previous 12 months, then she cannot give blood.
It doesn't go further down the chain to her husband."
That assumes she knows about it. I would guess some don't and continue to give blood in ignorant bliss.
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"Do you give blood ?
Are you on the list ?
Do you know when you can donate ?
Apparently there's a huge drop in the number of donors over the last ten years.
I'd love to donate, but don't know when or where
Also you have to make an appointment, or wait three to four hours to do so if you drop in
Are they making it easy enough to donate or not ? "
I give blood every 12 weeks (16 for women, I believe). I never make a 'next' appointment - as I always find a place (locally-ish) that I can donate. This means I can donate 4 times a year.
I tend to find myself using drop-in sessions - the wait is between 5 minutes and an hour without an appointment YMMV. Occasionally, I'll book an appointment.
Check out blood dot co dot uk - or use your favourite search engine. To my mind - it's easy. |
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Has Fab crashed the website?? Just went to find where my local session is and the page isn't available.
They used to come to my place of work but not seen it advertised for yonks!
But I do know someone that works for the donor service, they went to Canada to look at the way they manage blood donating there as they were planning to adopt that approach as our then current system wasn't working |
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