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The rise and fall of Nick Clegg

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

During the 2010 general election, Nick Clegg was the undisputed darling of the TV debates. However, the public acclamation for Nick Clegg and his party swiftly ceased after their treachery: voting to increase tuition fees despite their promise not to.

In the recent election, the British people had their revenge and handed Nick Clegg and his dishonest party a big ass kicking!

Now it appears that Vladimir Putin wants to have his turn and kick Nick Clegg hard whilst he is down in the gutter. Recent reports claim that Nick Clegg has been banned from entering Russia. I doff my hat to Putin.

Truly, I cannot think of another British politician that has experienced such a spectacular demise in popularity in such a relatively short space of time. What else do you think can go wrong for this unscrupulous man?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I feel a bit sorry for him tbh, I don't think he's a bad guy and I detest most politicians.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"I feel a bit sorry for him tbh, I don't think he's a bad guy and I detest most politicians."

How Many are you personal friends with?

I am friends with 4 current MPs

All lovely people

One is even a Tory

Spit lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This seemed like a reasonable thread. Dont understand the responses. Am I missing something?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are you d*unk OP

No I am not. However, I do feel rather ill after perusing your profile. Does that count?

Oh how charming you are

Not!

If you expect people to be charming to you perhaps it is best not to enquire if they are d*unk when they are obviously not.

It was a yes or no question

That didn't require a personal insult

I did not insult you. The comment was about your fab profile and not you as a person.

I recommend that you read the comment again. If you still fail to understand then I suggest you read it over again.

I AM MY PROFILE

How difficult is that to comprehend

And it was an insult

So there "

Your profile is writing and nothing more than that. Perhaps I did not like what you had to say. Perhaps you should not jump to false conclusions.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves."

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

That question has no relevance to the original post. I am NOT putting myself on a platform for debate. I am debating my original post.

Yawn

You're boring me now

See ya "

I never asked you to come here. You will not be surprised to learn that I don't care if you go away.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

That question has no relevance to the original post. I am NOT putting myself on a platform for debate. I am debating my original post.

Yawn

You're boring me now

See ya

I never asked you to come here. You will not be surprised to learn that I don't care if you go away."

You're not that lucky sweetie

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Born from an egg on a mountain top

The punkiest monkey that ever popped

He knew every magic trick under the sun

To tease the Gods

And everyone and have some fun

Monkey magic, Monkey magic (repeat 4 times)

What a cocky saucy monkey this one is

All the Gods were angered

And they punished him

Until he was saved by a kindly priest

And that was the start

Of their pilgrimage west

Monkey magic, Monkey magic

With a little bit of monkey magic

There'll be fireworks tonight

With a little bit of monkey magic

Every thing will be all right

Born from an egg on a mountain top

The punkiest monkey that ever popped

He knew every magic trick under the sun

To tease the Gods

And everyone and have some fun

Monkey magic, Monkey magic

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

Monkey magic

Lol

Hello there miss affectionate bitch

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I presume you also consider the British people as fools for destroying the Liberal Democrats. I think you will find that most people in Britain consider him to be an unscrupulous man. Perhaps this is not convenient for your agenda.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts."

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Monkey magic

Monkey magic

Lol

Hello there miss affectionate bitch "

Hello. I'm gonna go to sleep soon.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

LOL, I knew you had an agenda. I recommend that you invest less of your time with politicians. They are rather unscrupulous people. The Liberals are the worst. I can still remember all the lies they told about the tuition fees.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't think Nick Clegg will give much of a shit anyway even if it is true.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don't think Nick Clegg will give much of a shit anyway even if it is true."

Perhaps not. However, it is rather humiliating for him.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

God if I met one person, politician or not that never ever told a lie, then I'd know I was truelly in Canzas with Dorothy over the rainbow

And I advise you NEVER to tell me who I should spend my time with

I have also met

Hillary Benn

Robin Walker

Peter Temple Morris

Shirley Williams

Gisela Stewart

Clare Short

Dennis Skinner

Plus

Lots of other well known people who aren't politicians

And I'll still talk to them

If that's OK with you!!!

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"I don't think Nick Clegg will give much of a shit anyway even if it is true.

Perhaps not. However, it is rather humiliating for him."

How so

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not."

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Perhaps not. However, it is rather humiliating for him."

It's only Russia.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

God if I met one person, politician or not that never ever told a lie, then I'd know I was truelly in Canzas with Dorothy over the rainbow

And I advise you NEVER to tell me who I should spend my time with

I have also met

Hillary Benn

Robin Walker

Peter Temple Morris

Shirley Williams

Gisela Stewart

Clare Short

Dennis Skinner

Plus

Lots of other well known people who aren't politicians

And I'll still talk to them

If that's OK with you!!!

I strongly suggest that you READ what I wrote. I never told you who to spend you time with. I recommended that you should consider something. 'Telling' and 'recommending' are two completely different words with different meanings.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

God if I met one person, politician or not that never ever told a lie, then I'd know I was truelly in Canzas with Dorothy over the rainbow

And I advise you NEVER to tell me who I should spend my time with

I have also met

Hillary Benn

Robin Walker

Peter Temple Morris

Shirley Williams

Gisela Stewart

Clare Short

Dennis Skinner

Plus

Lots of other well known people who aren't politicians

And I'll still talk to them

If that's OK with you!!!

I suggest you Never ever recommend who I talk to

Never

Ever

Ever Ever Ever Ever Ever Ever Ever Ever Ever Ever

Got it

Is that clear enough?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don't think Nick Clegg will give much of a shit anyway even if it is true.

Perhaps not. However, it is rather humiliating for him.

How so "

If he was the deputy prime mister, Putin would not have banned him

Putin banned him because he is the FORMER deputy prime minister.

Clegg is a political nothing and Putin knows it.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"I don't think Nick Clegg will give much of a shit anyway even if it is true.

Perhaps not. However, it is rather humiliating for him.

How so

If he was the deputy prime mister, Putin would not have banned him

Putin banned him because he is the FORMER deputy prime minister.

Clegg is a political nothing and Putin knows it."

It's all smoke and mirrors

Putin is a bully

The western politicians know this

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible."

Anything is possible

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don't think Nick Clegg will give much of a shit anyway even if it is true.

Perhaps not. However, it is rather humiliating for him.

How so

If he was the deputy prime mister, Putin would not have banned him

Putin banned him because he is the FORMER deputy prime minister.

Clegg is a political nothing and Putin knows it.

It's all smoke and mirrors

Putin is a bully

The western politicians know this

It is hypocrisy for the west to claim that Putin is a bully. After all, It was the west that started a war in Iraq.

Many people in the world consider the west, particular the uk and america, to be the bullies.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic."

They once said that of walking on the moon

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

In response to a previous comment you made.

Politicians tell lies and over exaggerate the truth.

However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?"

Why do you assume that I want them to?

That's NOT what I actually said lol

And the Russians have done nothing to me personally

Obviously

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far."

Did they raise them or the Tories?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?

Why do you assume that I want them to?

That's NOT what I actually said lol

And the Russians have done nothing to me personally

Obviously

I consider that you have been sabre-rattling against Putin and Russia.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?"

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?"

They both did. However, the torries did not sign a piece of paper saying they would not. That is the difference.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?

Why do you assume that I want them to?

That's NOT what I actually said lol

And the Russians have done nothing to me personally

Obviously

I consider that you have been sabre-rattling against Putin and Russia."

Untrue

False assumption alert

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

They both did. However, the torries did not sign a piece of paper saying they would not. That is the difference."

As a coalition government the Lib Dems signed papers to negotiate with the party with the more power in the coalition

Those Tories

So things couldn't be fulfilled as Clegg had hoped

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!"

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?

Why do you assume that I want them to?

That's NOT what I actually said lol

And the Russians have done nothing to me personally

Obviously

I consider that you have been sabre-rattling against Putin and Russia.

Untrue

False assumption alert "

It was you who mention sanctions against Russia.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol "

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?

Why do you assume that I want them to?

That's NOT what I actually said lol

And the Russians have done nothing to me personally

Obviously

I consider that you have been sabre-rattling against Putin and Russia.

Untrue

False assumption alert

It was you who mention sanctions against Russia."

Never actually said that I personally wanted them

Try reading what I actually wrote

Lmfao

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Ah, get a room you two

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me."

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?

Why do you assume that I want them to?

That's NOT what I actually said lol

And the Russians have done nothing to me personally

Obviously

I consider that you have been sabre-rattling against Putin and Russia.

Untrue

False assumption alert

It was you who mention sanctions against Russia.

Never actually said that I personally wanted them

Try reading what I actually wrote

Lmfao

At the very least you are supporting the people who are calling for them. I hear many lib dems are in favour of sanctions.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?

Why do you assume that I want them to?

That's NOT what I actually said lol

And the Russians have done nothing to me personally

Obviously

I consider that you have been sabre-rattling against Putin and Russia.

Untrue

False assumption alert

It was you who mention sanctions against Russia.

Never actually said that I personally wanted them

Try reading what I actually wrote

Lmfao

At the very least you are supporting the people who are calling for them. I hear many lib dems are in favour of sanctions."

Who said that I'm a Lib Dem

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol "

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?

Why do you assume that I want them to?

That's NOT what I actually said lol

And the Russians have done nothing to me personally

Obviously

I consider that you have been sabre-rattling against Putin and Russia.

Untrue

False assumption alert

It was you who mention sanctions against Russia.

Never actually said that I personally wanted them

Try reading what I actually wrote

Lmfao

At the very least you are supporting the people who are calling for them. I hear many lib dems are in favour of sanctions.

Who said that I'm a Lib Dem"

I did not say you was a lib dem. I claimed that you are supporting the people calling for sanctions.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?"

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?

Why do you assume that I want them to?

That's NOT what I actually said lol

And the Russians have done nothing to me personally

Obviously

I consider that you have been sabre-rattling against Putin and Russia.

Untrue

False assumption alert

It was you who mention sanctions against Russia.

Never actually said that I personally wanted them

Try reading what I actually wrote

Lmfao

At the very least you are supporting the people who are calling for them. I hear many lib dems are in favour of sanctions.

Who said that I'm a Lib Dem

I did not say you was a lib dem. I claimed that you are supporting the people calling for sanctions.

I never said that

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all "

The labour and torries have never been stupid enough to write something down and the do the opposite. It serves the lib dems right for attempting to get away with that.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all

The labour and torries have never been stupid enough to write something down and the do the opposite. It serves the lib dems right for attempting to get away with that."

What rubbish

I suggest you read your history books

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all

The labour and torries have never been stupid enough to write something down and the do the opposite. It serves the lib dems right for attempting to get away with that.

What rubbish

I suggest you read your history books

As you are obviously so well informed on history, perhaps you can give me an example.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all

The labour and torries have never been stupid enough to write something down and the do the opposite. It serves the lib dems right for attempting to get away with that.

What rubbish

I suggest you read your history books

As you are obviously so well informed on history, perhaps you can give me an example."

I could

I'm lazy

I'll let you do your research

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ah, get a room you two

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all

The labour and torries have never been stupid enough to write something down and the do the opposite. It serves the lib dems right for attempting to get away with that.

What rubbish

I suggest you read your history books

As you are obviously so well informed on history, perhaps you can give me an example.

I could

I'm lazy

I'll let you do your research "

LOL, in other words you do not know.

Bravo

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all

The labour and torries have never been stupid enough to write something down and the do the opposite. It serves the lib dems right for attempting to get away with that.

What rubbish

I suggest you read your history books

As you are obviously so well informed on history, perhaps you can give me an example.

I could

I'm lazy

I'll let you do your research

LOL, in other words you do not know.

Bravo"

Again

Utter rubbish

I've got no plans to dance to your pointless tune honey

I'll never change your mind

You'll never change mine

It's that simple

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all

The labour and torries have never been stupid enough to write something down and the do the opposite. It serves the lib dems right for attempting to get away with that.

What rubbish

I suggest you read your history books

As you are obviously so well informed on history, perhaps you can give me an example.

I could

I'm lazy

I'll let you do your research

LOL, in other words you do not know.

Bravo

Again

Utter rubbish

I've got no plans to dance to your pointless tune honey

I'll never change your mind

You'll never change mine

It's that simple

I have absolutely no interest in changing you mind. I asked you do provide me with an example and you were unable to do it. If you cannot provide any evidence to support your statement then you are not credible.

It's that simple.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all

The labour and torries have never been stupid enough to write something down and the do the opposite. It serves the lib dems right for attempting to get away with that.

What rubbish

I suggest you read your history books

As you are obviously so well informed on history, perhaps you can give me an example.

I could

I'm lazy

I'll let you do your research

LOL, in other words you do not know.

Bravo

Again

Utter rubbish

I've got no plans to dance to your pointless tune honey

I'll never change your mind

You'll never change mine

It's that simple

It's that simple."

That's just your opinion

And in my opinion

Your opinion is worthless

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By *aughtyinguMan over a year ago

swindon

Its rather curious that the lib Dems lost so much for coalition policies, while the torys gained...

And the tuition fees thing must of been a choice they where forced into.

All parties make pledges they end up not fulfilling. This current gov may well turn into a disaster :/

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP. Just Google "broken manifesto promises." You will find that both major parties have broken many.

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By *uke olovingmanMan over a year ago

Gravesend

I would imagine Winston Churchill was probably a bit peeved to get dumped out of office after winning the war for us

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is he the new Reggie Perrin?

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

this went well

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hope history treats Cleggy a lot better than the electorate did.

I have a lot of admiration for him.

Yes - he broke his party's pledge on tuition fees but what everyone who criticises him for it seems to forget is that the Lib Dems were did not form a majority government. They were the smaller half of a coalition and therefore had to compromise on a number of policies.

Nick Clegg stepped up and put his the needs of the country ahead of the needs of his party.

Shame his party got such a clobbering as I don't think he should have felt the need to stand down as leader.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"I hope history treats Cleggy a lot better than the electorate did.

I have a lot of admiration for him.

Nick Clegg stepped up and put his the needs of the country ahead of the needs of his party.

Shame his party got such a clobbering as I don't think he should have felt the need to stand down as leader."

I think that is very fair

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"I hope history treats Cleggy a lot better than the electorate did.

I have a lot of admiration for him.

Nick Clegg stepped up and put his the needs of the country ahead of the needs of his party.

Shame his party got such a clobbering as I don't think he should have felt the need to stand down as leader."

This

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"OP. Just Google "broken manifesto promises." You will find that both major parties have broken many."

I don't actually think he wants to find any because he would rather just bash the Lib Dems

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"Its rather curious that the lib Dems lost so much for coalition policies, while the torys gained...

And the tuition fees thing must of been a choice they where forced into.

All parties make pledges they end up not fulfilling. This current gov may well turn into a disaster :/"

The people of Sheffield remember the miners strike and the loss of the massive steel industry

The, like me would rather elect a cashmere goat in a purple wig, to be Prime Minister than choose the Tories again

So once he joined them in the coalition government, his job was untenable

It's a shame because he's a lovely person

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"During the 2010 general election, Nick Clegg was the undisputed darling of the TV debates. However, the public acclamation for Nick Clegg and his party swiftly ceased after their treachery: voting to increase tuition fees despite their promise not to.

In the recent election, the British people had their revenge and handed Nick Clegg and his dishonest party a big ass kicking!

Tony Blaire

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

In the recent election, the British people had their revenge and handed Nick Clegg and his dishonest party a big ass kicking!

Tony Blaire"

Jeffrey Archer

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By *empting Devil.Woman over a year ago

Sheffield

I keep trying to ignore this thread but I can't do it anymore.

My position is a little different as I'm one of his constituents

The general consensus here is that he dropped us like a hot potato to rush off to Cam's side and into the limelight. For the last four years we have had an MP who has been putting everyone but his constituency first.

He knew he was in trouble in the run up to the election and somehow managed to wangle enough votes to stay in but he's lost a lot of confidence here.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"I keep trying to ignore this thread but I can't do it anymore.

My position is a little different as I'm one of his constituents

He knew he was in trouble in the run up to the election and somehow managed to wangle enough votes to stay in but he's lost a lot of confidence here."

I agree with you

I've got an old school friend in Sheffield so regularly visit

You are totally correct

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I agree with you

I've got an old school friend in Sheffield so regularly visit

You are totally correct "

why do you continuously comment on this thread? do you have a problem with the OP and his post?

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

I agree with you

I've got an old school friend in Sheffield so regularly visit

You are totally correct

why do you continuously comment on this thread? do you have a problem with the OP and his post?"

Because I can post on this thread and I want to, so I shall

I don't have a problem with the OP as such no, I do rather dislike his blatant Lib Dems bashing however

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

He sold his (and his parties) soul four years ago for a taste of power.

If he would have waited, the Lib Dems could have had a majority share in the recent election and had real power and control. They would have been the clear alternative to the Blues & Reds.

All they have now is political wilderness.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This seemed like a reasonable thread. Dont understand the responses. Am I missing something? "

Me neither, quite shocked to be honest! Honestly, why are people so judgemental??

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"I don't think Nick Clegg will give much of a shit anyway even if it is true.

Perhaps not. However, it is rather humiliating for him."

You think? I'd have thought being banned by a tyrannical dictator because you've stood up against his bully boy tactics would actually be something to be proud of.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

In the recent election, the British people had their revenge and handed Nick Clegg and his dishonest party a big ass kicking!

what utter drivel..

Clegg is a politician in a democratic country and is accountable for his actions as was his party at the election..

Putin is a tyrant with blood on his hands who rules a state where journalists and people who are gay are attacked and have been murdered with no redress for their families..

he has started a war in Europe also..

praising him is pathetic..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I don't think Nick Clegg will give much of a shit anyway even if it is true.

Perhaps not. However, it is rather humiliating for him.

You think? I'd have thought being banned by a tyrannical dictator because you've stood up against his bully boy tactics would actually be something to be proud of."

this..

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"In response to a previous comment you made.

Politicians tell lies and over exaggerate the truth.

However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far."

Is it really any different than when Labour increased the tuition fees from £1000 to £3000 in 2004 when it had clearly stated in its 2001 manifesto that it would not? Or even when Labour actually introduced tuition fees in the first place in 1998 after having campaigned vigorously in the 1997 election even against student loans? Is there a little bit of hypocrisy here?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"And before the insults start that comment was not due to your original posting but to the particularly nasty comment about someone's profile!

Interesting you did not criticise the two people who were nasty to me. At last one person did express his surprise at the criticism I got.

Asking if you are d*unk isn't a criticism

Just a simple question

Doh!

If you read the earlier comments you will realise that another user came to the same conclusion as I did.

Perhaps you should stick to discussing the original post rather than the people themselves.

Perhaps I should answer as I bloody well see fit actually

And with regard to your original post

My _iew is simply this

It sounded like the d*unken ramblings of a fool

Hope that clarifies things for you honey

I've met

Nick Clegg

Vince Cable

Charles Kennedy

Lembit Opik

Putin never said Clegg cannot visit Russia

It rubbish

Russia has banned Nick Clegg and 88 other European officials.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32949236

I encourage you to read it. It looks like you are not aware of the facts.

I'm not nieve enough to believe all what's in the press

It's unenforceable

Putins a twat

It is very enforceable. Russia is not in the EU. Russia is a sovereign country and it can decide who comes in and who does not.

Complete fact

And he'd suffer political sanctions worldwide if he continues

Are you sure?

China, brazil, India, Iran, south Africa are not imposing any sanctions because they are with RUSSIA in the BRICS trading group.

It does not sound like a world wide sanction is really possible.

Anything is possible

Anything is possible, but Russia having a world wide sanction is rather unrealistic.

They once said that of walking on the moon

Why do you want Russia to have crippling economic sanctions? what have the Russian people done to you?"

Apart from annexing the Crimea and supplying arms to Russian Ukrainians thus destabilising the whole of Eastern Europe.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?"

It was the coalition, both Conservative and LibDems have to take credit and blame equality for all decisions made.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?"

At this point I feel I have to point out again that Labour promised not to raise tuition fees from £1000 in the 2001 manifesto and then raised them to £3000. It's not just LibDems who can't or don't always stick to there campaign promises.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all

The labour and torries have never been stupid enough to write something down and the do the opposite. It serves the lib dems right for attempting to get away with that."

Labour 2001 manifesto said they would not raise tuition fees and then they did in 2004. Check your facts.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

Very valid point

I think the OP maybe temporarily forgot that the Lib Dems didn't run the UK alone but as the lesser half of a coalition government

Actually, Vince cable was put in charge of the decision and it was his idea to raise it to £9,000. he even 'recommended it to the house' in parliament. I saw that live on TV!

Like I said

Don't believe all you see on tv

Lol

After he recommended it to the house, he sat down and cameron patted him on the back! Then he voted for it.

It looks very convincing to me.

Oh well

Believe in the tooth fairy soon lol

Next you will be telling me that the Lib dems did not remove the scrapping of tuition fees from official party policy before the 2010 election.

Why are you trying hard to protect those people who have lied?

I'm not protecting anyone

Have the Tories never ever lied to the electorate

Have the labour party never ever lied to the British electorate

Why are you expecting the Lib Dems to be any different to anyone else who've held power

I think it's a very nieve _iew from you

That's all

The labour and torries have never been stupid enough to write something down and the do the opposite. It serves the lib dems right for attempting to get away with that.

What rubbish

I suggest you read your history books

As you are obviously so well informed on history, perhaps you can give me an example."

I have done and on exactly the same issue also.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Its rather curious that the lib Dems lost so much for coalition policies, while the torys gained...

And the tuition fees thing must of been a choice they where forced into.

All parties make pledges they end up not fulfilling. This current gov may well turn into a disaster :/

The people of Sheffield remember the miners strike and the loss of the massive steel industry

The, like me would rather elect a cashmere goat in a purple wig, to be Prime Minister than choose the Tories again

So once he joined them in the coalition government, his job was untenable

It's a shame because he's a lovely person

But he kept his seat in Sheffield so that can't be true.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

I agree with you

I've got an old school friend in Sheffield so regularly visit

You are totally correct

why do you continuously comment on this thread? do you have a problem with the OP and his post?"

Hang on. She may have got a little personal with the OP but she's also made some good points, why shouldn't she comment.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

"Its rather curious that the lib Dems lost so much for coalition policies, while the torys gained...

And the tuition fees thing must of been a choice they where forced into.

All parties make pledges they end up not fulfilling. This current gov may well turn into a disaster :/

The people of Sheffield remember the miners strike and the loss of the massive steel industry

The, like me would rather elect a cashmere goat in a purple wig, to be Prime Minister than choose the Tories again

So once he joined them in the coalition government, his job was untenable

It's a shame because he's a lovely person

But he kept his seat in Sheffield so that can't be true."

It is true

Many Sheffield people can't stand him now

But many still voted for him

So he's still their MP, JUST!

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

this went well"

Didn't it just!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

It was the coalition, both Conservative and LibDems have to take credit and blame equality for all decisions made."

Even when one side had more power than the other? That doesn't seem right.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"However, the LIB dems wrote down on paper that they would not raise tuition fees and then raised them. In my opinion, that is really really wrong and a step too far.

Did they raise them or the Tories?

It was the coalition, both Conservative and LibDems have to take credit and blame equality for all decisions made.

Even when one side had more power than the other? That doesn't seem right."

In my opinion the LibDems had the largest share of the power, without out their seats their would have been no overall majority.

I also think the biggest mistake the LibDems made was to try and distance themselves from the coalition government in the election campaign. Having already lost most anti Tory votes for simply being in the coalition they then alienated pro Tory anti Labour voters.

The LibDems should have campaigned more on the achievements of the coalition, including tuition fees which had actually resulted in lower upfront costs and lower yearly paybacks to in the future for most students.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"He sold his (and his parties) soul four years ago for a taste of power.

If he would have waited, the Lib Dems could have had a majority share in the recent election and had real power and control. They would have been the clear alternative to the Blues & Reds.

All they have now is political wilderness."

My _iew too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ultimately Tories played a good game at the election by offering Scotland the chance to devolve meant the rise of the SNP. Lib-Dems came away from the coalition as a spent force that seemed weak and ineffective. The only real way back for the is to have a leader with a backbone who will hold fast on a manifesto that will put the needs of the country first. Helping business grow whilst at the same time protecting the working class and putting the country properly back on its feet is what is needed. Something that I trust neither Tories or Labour to do

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