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"Just received a "Parking Charge Notice" from ParkingEye for staying more than two hours at Fleet Services (I had worked all night and fallen asleep). T'internet suggests an appeal is often successful when dealing with these private firms, does anyone have experience of appealing these things?" Good luck. Clearly displayed terms and conditions for parking, details of fines if the two hours are exceeded. ANPR cameras. You do the crime........., A | |||
"Plead insanity ". I got off with it but they did institutionalise me for 5 years! Best thing they ever did for this country institutions! | |||
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"See the private Parking forum on pepipoo(dot)com or Private Parking Tickets & Clamping forum on moneysavingexpert(dot)com"  back in the day you could just ignore them, now you need to appeal.
Parking Charge Notice is different from a Penanlty Charge Notice.. It's just a scam to get your money and not worth them enforcing if you appeal correctly.
Look at the websites above | |||
"See the private Parking forum on pepipoo(dot)com or Private Parking Tickets & Clamping forum on moneysavingexpert(dot)com back in the day you could just ignore them, now you need to appeal.
Parking Charge Notice is different from a Penanlty Charge Notice.. It's just a scam to get your money and not worth them enforcing if you appeal correctly.
Look at the websites above"FFS *penalty (stupid fingers!) | |||
"Just received a "Parking Charge Notice" from ParkingEye for staying more than two hours at Fleet Services (I had worked all night and fallen asleep). T'internet suggests an appeal is often successful when dealing with these private firms, does anyone have experience of appealing these things?" Very much doubt you can argue with it. Your best hope used to be to argue that they only had a case to charge you for lost revenue ( 2xhourly rate), but a recent test case put that to bed. I managed it, only because I put in the wrong reg in the machine. The reg of my other car, which was at home. They allowed this as an honest mistake and I hadn't overstayed the time on my ticket. | |||
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"See the private Parking forum on pepipoo(dot)com or Private Parking Tickets & Clamping forum on moneysavingexpert(dot)com back in the day you could just ignore them, now you need to appeal.
Parking Charge Notice is different from a Penanlty Charge Notice.. It's just a scam to get your money and not worth them enforcing if you appeal correctly.
Look at the websites above" | |||
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"Just received a "Parking Charge Notice" from ParkingEye for staying more than two hours at Fleet Services (I had worked all night and fallen asleep). T'internet suggests an appeal is often successful when dealing with these private firms, does anyone have experience of appealing these things?" Send them a postal order or cheque for the cost of an overnight. They'll leave it at that. If you want an idea of text, DM me and I'll give you what I sent. Never heard from again that was with welcome break. Even if you're a few days after, call the truck stop and speak to the manager, they'll let you pay the night rate. I just done this with Abington. B | |||
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"DON'T just ignore it - that used to work, but not any longer. Do your research and go through the appeals process." | |||
"DON'T just ignore it - that used to work, but not any longer. Do your research and go through the appeals process." I just burn them. If they really want to they'll send another one.  | |||
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" As someone has already said, it is not worth their time taking you to court. It's just scare tactics. " Begs the question of how they make money though. I'm guessing the amount of people who ignore these private firms is quite high. The only ones I actually pay are the council ones, because they really do nail you as I've found out several times. | |||
"Ignore the letters. They are unenforceable. They might send you 2 or 3 letters with more threats to sue you each time. As someone has already said, it is not worth their time taking you to court. It's just scare tactics. I've had a few over the years and have ignored all of them. Whatever you do, don't reply to the letter in any way what so ever. Just bin the letter " Sorry, but this used to be the case, but if you do a web search you'll see that Parking Eye in particular, are taking people to court, and judges are awarding hundreds of pounds compensation to them. This change started a couple of months ago - when was the last time you tried ignoring one? | |||
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"Correct - things have changed recently. Google it." It was covered on R4 too. | |||
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"Correct - things have changed recently. Google it. It was covered on R4 too. " Test case in the High Court - judgement given at end of April - appears to favour Parking Eye. sadly! Fight is not over as Beavis may be taking it to Supreme Court . | |||
"Make a POPLA (or Parking on Private Land Appeals) as the fine is based on breach of contract anfvtgeyre charging you to much. Just goggle POPLA (other search engines are available) " You can only appeal to POPLA after you appeal to the issuer if they reject your appeal not sure about parking eye but most of them you can ignore it cost them more to pursue you than it make financial sense to carry on for to long, some companys now make bulk request to the small claims courts though watch out for them | |||
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"Ignore the letters. They are unenforceable. They might send you 2 or 3 letters with more threats to sue you each time. As someone has already said, it is not worth their time taking you to court. It's just scare tactics. I've had a few over the years and have ignored all of them. Whatever you do, don't reply to the letter in any way what so ever. Just bin the letter " This is no longer true so for your own financial well being, do not follow this advise. Parking Eye are taking people to Court in ever increasing numbers. They have had plenty of time and experience to get their methodology right and unless you follow exactly the requirements of POPLA you will not have a leg to stand on. You will get taken to court, you will have to pay the charge as well as their and your costs. If you have any doubts check your local Court and see just how many cases now involve Parking Eye. | |||
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" To summarise : By parking, you enter a contract. As clearly set out by the highly visible board with terms and conditions, and penalties on it*. You breach the contract, you pay up, sooner or later. *If this is in any way defective or lacking, the parking company can't enforce *their* desired yet unspecified contract. " . Even a tight arse from yorkshire knows when it's time to pay  | |||
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"Ignore the letters. They are unenforceable. They might send you 2 or 3 letters with more threats to sue you each time. As someone has already said, it is not worth their time taking you to court. It's just scare tactics. I've had a few over the years and have ignored all of them. Whatever you do, don't reply to the letter in any way what so ever. Just bin the letter This is no longer true so for your own financial well being, do not follow this advise. Parking Eye are taking people to Court in ever increasing numbers. They have had plenty of time and experience to get their methodology right and unless you follow exactly the requirements of POPLA you will not have a leg to stand on. You will get taken to court, you will have to pay the charge as well as their and your costs. If you have any doubts check your local Court and see just how many cases now involve Parking Eye. " After looking deeper into this, this is what would seem to be the case, that ParkingEye are starting to prosecute. I've started a POPLA claim. | |||
"Had exactly the same, look on the parking forums that have been mentioned already. I used the template letters asking them to justify how I had incurred their costs, being that it was 2 am and the car park was empty Etc.. They then threaten court, just sent letter back again saying I would be happy to put my points forward in court. They gave up in the end. This country is a joke considering that there is an safety advert on the radio telling drivers to pull in at services if tired, have a coffee and a nap then carry on your journey. Whilst at the same time passing statute laws to enable these vultures to continue praying on motorists." agtee with this why put up signs on motorway tiredness kills take a break, so you pull into service station have a nap go over 2 hours and get fined brilliant | |||
"why put up signs on motorway tiredness kills takeu a break, so you pull into service station have a nap go over 2 hours and get fined brilliant" then pull over in a layby where you wont incur charges | |||
"there is an safety advert on the radio telling drivers to pull in at services if tired, have a coffee and a nap then carry on your journey. Whilst at the same time passing statute laws to enable these vultures to continue praying on motorists. agtee with this why put up signs on motorway tiredness kills take a break, so you pull into service station have a nap go over 2 hours and get fined brilliant" I've had that before. I was knackered. Pulled over into the services fell asleep. Several weeks later I get letter through my door and a fine. 
Ok. . So I should of carried on driving then? .. wouldn't want the risk of pulling info The services in case I take a nap which is exactly what the sign is telling me to do. .. | |||
"why put up signs on motorway tiredness kills takeu a break, so you pull into service station have a nap go over 2 hours and get fined brilliant then pull over in a layby where you wont incur charges " On the M6? .... | |||
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"Traffic Warden that come,s into our local got no friends had no friends before he was a warden he is just a C--T one of those sorts that no one like,s every one can not be wrong he,s small fat ginger and arrogant his say always got to have the last word also been told a wife beater " What are you getting him for Christmas, anything nice?  | |||
"Traffic Warden that come,s into our local got no friends had no friends before he was a warden he is just a C--T one of those sorts that no one like,s every one can not be wrong he,s small fat ginger and arrogant his say always got to have the last word also been told a wife beater " GINGER! FFS - what is wrong with the world! | |||
"Just received a "Parking Charge Notice" from ParkingEye for staying more than two hours at Fleet Services (I had worked all night and fallen asleep). T'internet suggests an appeal is often successful when dealing with these private firms, does anyone have experience of appealing these things?" See WATCHDOG tonight. BBC1. Bullying tactics of private parking companies. . | |||
"Ignore it. They can't enforce payment without taking you to court. Then they can only claim for their loss. Parking is free for two hours, then £5-00 an hour. You owe them a fiver. You still don't have to pay unless they enforce judgement. Until then pay nothing, you won't be clamped, or towed away. I had one at Lidl, see previous post, and heard nothing since January. I had another at Moto Services Exeter, I just had to sleep, and overstayed, a couple of years ago, again heard nothing. It's all pseudo official Crap designed to make you cough up. DON'T. If it's from the Council or Police, different altogether, pay asap or they'll have the shirt off your back. Parking companies are scumbags like pirates."  . These parking ccmpanies ensure that there are spaces available for those who obey the various regulations . I am unsure as to why people think they should be able to ignore the rules . | |||
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"Don't pay it unless they have 100% evidence. If they just send you a picture of you coming and going, then pay nothing. They will write a few demanding letters and then fuck off if they're clever. It's great fun" lol wasn't parked was driving around  | |||
"See the private Parking forum on pepipoo(dot)com " This. | |||
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"Traffic Warden that come,s into our local got no friends had no friends before he was a warden he is just a C--T one of those sorts that no one like,s every one can not be wrong he,s small fat ginger and arrogant his say always got to have the last word also been told a wife beater " . A difficult job being a traffic warden. Without them there would be chaos . Parking spaces in congested areas are only available because traffic wardens ensure that the rules are adhered to. I appreciate their efforts . | |||
"Traffic Warden that come,s into our local got no friends had no friends before he was a warden he is just a C--T one of those sorts that no one like,s every one can not be wrong he,s small fat ginger and arrogant his say always got to have the last word also been told a wife beater . A difficult job being a traffic warden. Without them there would be chaos . Parking spaces in congested areas are only available because traffic wardens ensure that the rules are adhered to. I appreciate their efforts . " MAGGOTS. | |||
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"Ignore it. They can't enforce payment without taking you to court. Then they can only claim for their loss. Parking is free for two hours, then £5-00 an hour. You owe them a fiver. You still don't have to pay unless they enforce judgement. Until then pay nothing, you won't be clamped, or towed away. I had one at Lidl, see previous post, and heard nothing since January. I had another at Moto Services Exeter, I just had to sleep, and overstayed, a couple of years ago, again heard nothing. It's all pseudo official Crap designed to make you cough up. DON'T. If it's from the Council or Police, different altogether, pay asap or they'll have the shirt off your back. Parking companies are scumbags like pirates. . These parking ccmpanies ensure that there are spaces available for those who obey the various regulations . I am unsure as to why people think they should be able to ignore the rules ."Sod off. They don't, but perhaps they make a mistake, get it wrong, whatever. Let it go to court, then at least your case will get heard with an impartial Bench that aren't paid per ticket. Murder someone, and your mitigating circumstances are considered. Get a parking fine and it doesn't matter if you can't read, we're having a miscarriage, or were abducted by aliens. If the parking is free for two hours, you overstay by ten minutes, whilst using the facilities at the Motorway Services, and spending on fuel, eating in the restaurant,buying Crap in the shop, oh! And stopping to sleep so as not to cause a multiple fatal accident on the Motorway, which then costs millions for repairs and medical bills and compensation claims, I don't think a so called fine of £80 or £100 is fair,or reasonable,or represents any loss incurred by the land owner or business thereon. Neither does it take your ability to pay into consideration. Let them take you to court. They never will. Of course none of this applies to you, because you are such an effing Saint. | |||
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"Just an update on this. I appealed through POPLA and they found in my favour - official wording was "...the Operator does not have the authority of the landowner to issue parking charge notices"." Hopefully they will get authority to issue tickets asap. Parking spaces are usually only available because the majority of people adhere to the regulations and traffic wardens / parking attendants do an excellent job in ensuring that these spaces are available for us | |||
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"Only the local authorities have the ability to 'fine' you for parking infringments (police, council, traffic warden etc). Private companies have no legal right to do so and you're not obliged to pay or admit responsibility. Ignore all letters or correspondence regardless of any threats." DO NOT ignore them. The rules changed and they CAN and WILL take you to court. Parking Eye have done so successfully. The POPLA appeal is the defence you MUST use. They will refuse your appeal - it's their company policy. By going to appeal and getting the reference number it actually costs them money. They are legally allowed to charge for quantifiable loss - ie what it cost them for you not paying. A free Car Park hasn't cost them anything so they have no loss. But don't ignore them - they have the law on their side now | |||
"Only the local authorities have the ability to 'fine' you for parking infringments (police, council, traffic warden etc). Private companies have no legal right to do so and you're not obliged to pay or admit responsibility. Ignore all letters or correspondence regardless of any threats. DO NOT ignore them. The rules changed and they CAN and WILL take you to court. Parking Eye have done so successfully. The POPLA appeal is the defence you MUST use. They will refuse your appeal - it's their company policy. By going to appeal and getting the reference number it actually costs them money. They are legally allowed to charge for quantifiable loss - ie what it cost them for you not paying. A free Car Park hasn't cost them anything so they have no loss. But don't ignore them - they have the law on their side now" I didn't think it had changed yet. I stand corrected if it has. | |||
" What's with this paying to park malarkey anyway. Doesn't everyone park on the pavements these days?" Exactly. Which numbnuts actually pay to park these days. Daylight robbery. I have a rule, if they expect me to pay to park somewhere, I won't go there. | |||
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"The rules changed last year and came into effect this year. Most agents don't have the clout to back up their threats and rely on the threat itself. Parking Eye are part of a massive group and have the backing of their own legal teams. They have won in court on several occasions. As always - Pepipoo is the best place for up to date info for those not dealing with it day to day." or search money saving expert forums.. Just don't post a new thread about it, some of the posters on there are brutal | |||
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"If you let them take you to small claims court they have to prove it was you driving being the registered keeper doesn't automatically make you liable. " On private land the owner is liable | |||
