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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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My mom has been in hospital now 2 weeks.
It was serious and at one point critical
Today my dad and i saw the consultant,
He gave no excuse for missing a really serious infection and then said that "i looked stressed and tired and do i want to be signed off"
Shocked i said "do your job and you should have noticed this infection that should have helped and no im not sick, my mom is"
Then had a strop as i spoke my mind
He said to my dad that i needed anger therapy
My dad said. "Your lucky she hasnt complained yet"
Sorry for the vent. But jeeez some people!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Speaking from recent experience.
All your emotions are running at an all time high so you do need to find a way to keep them in check whilst dealing with the hospital staff. It doesn't get you anywhere and can make you feel worse.
I found some consultants are shockingly bad when it comes to speaking to relatives so much so I did make my feelings known.
Keeping a diary of your mums treatment will help if you do need to take things further.
I hope your mum is on the road to recovery, I know how worried you must be. x
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Doctors and consultants do get very defensive when you question them or complain. After many years searching, I've now got a great GP who always gives me honest answers. Bliss |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Thanks.
I have a log going and also a meeting with the consultants boss this week
I am angry as we almost lost my mom and the infection should have been caught sooner
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thanks.
I have a log going and also a meeting with the consultants boss this week
I am angry as we almost lost my mom and the infection should have been caught sooner
X"
I know hun, it's a horrible scary time for you.
I was always pushing for answers, asking them to explain treament / medication plans etc. Seemed to cope better keeping busy that way.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My mom has been in hospital now 2 weeks.
It was serious and at one point critical
Today my dad and i saw the consultant,
He gave no excuse for missing a really serious infection and then said that "i looked stressed and tired and do i want to be signed off"
Shocked i said "do your job and you should have noticed this infection that should have helped and no im not sick, my mom is"
Then had a strop as i spoke my mind
He said to my dad that i needed anger therapy
My dad said. "Your lucky she hasnt complained yet"
Sorry for the vent. But jeeez some people!
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Good for you.
I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"My mom has been in hospital now 2 weeks.
It was serious and at one point critical
Today my dad and i saw the consultant,
He gave no excuse for missing a really serious infection and then said that "i looked stressed and tired and do i want to be signed off"
Shocked i said "do your job and you should have noticed this infection that should have helped and no im not sick, my mom is"
Then had a strop as i spoke my mind
He said to my dad that i needed anger therapy
My dad said. "Your lucky she hasnt complained yet"
Sorry for the vent. But jeeez some people!
Good for you.
I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger!"
I agree.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Good for you.
I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger!"
'Superficial' just means 'on the surface'. So if you lost the tip of your finger, that is the proper word for it.
My mother works in A&E as a receptionist, and has to deal with people all the time telling her she's 'wrong' for using the correct terms when checking their medical records. |
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I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger!"
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he he.....
They use the word 'superficial' to imply that it's only the skin and the subcutaneous tissue - doesn't really involve muscles or bones or tendons.
Bet that finger is not as naughty as the others now..
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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"Good for you.
I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger!
'Superficial' just means 'on the surface'. So if you lost the tip of your finger, that is the proper word for it.
My mother works in A&E as a receptionist, and has to deal with people all the time telling her she's 'wrong' for using the correct terms when checking their medical records."
load of bull  its not "on the surface" if its gone through so far as to sever the finger tip  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doctors and consultants do get very defensive when you question them or complain. After many years searching, I've now got a great GP who always gives me honest answers. Bliss"
I've obviously been lucky with the doctors I've seen over the years, never any problems at all. Or perhaps we just never hear about the good ones. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good for you.
I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger!
'Superficial' just means 'on the surface'. So if you lost the tip of your finger, that is the proper word for it.
My mother works in A&E as a receptionist, and has to deal with people all the time telling her she's 'wrong' for using the correct terms when checking their medical records.
load of bull its not "on the surface" if its gone through so far as to sever the finger tip "
If it's the tip then there's no bone or muscle so yep, that fits the definition of superficial.
Not like he said "man up, princess, it's just a scratch" |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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"Good for you.
I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger!
'Superficial' just means 'on the surface'. So if you lost the tip of your finger, that is the proper word for it.
My mother works in A&E as a receptionist, and has to deal with people all the time telling her she's 'wrong' for using the correct terms when checking their medical records.
load of bull its not "on the surface" if its gone through so far as to sever the finger tip
If it's the tip then there's no bone or muscle so yep, that fits the definition of superficial.
Not like he said "man up, princess, it's just a scratch""
no its not. the definition is on or near the surface. your wrong, they're wrong. its not superficial having your guts ripped out is it  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good for you.
I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger!
'Superficial' just means 'on the surface'. So if you lost the tip of your finger, that is the proper word for it.
My mother works in A&E as a receptionist, and has to deal with people all the time telling her she's 'wrong' for using the correct terms when checking their medical records.
load of bull its not "on the surface" if its gone through so far as to sever the finger tip
If it's the tip then there's no bone or muscle so yep, that fits the definition of superficial.
Not like he said "man up, princess, it's just a scratch"
no its not. the definition is on or near the surface. your wrong, they're wrong. its not superficial having your guts ripped out is it "
I'm wrong, the doctor's wrong, everybody is just wrong!! No, I agree it's not superficial having your guts ripped out, because that's likely to result in death...unlike the tip of a finger.
Anyway, hope your mum is on the mend soon OP, sounds like you've all been through a tough time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Good for you.
I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger!
'Superficial' just means 'on the surface'. So if you lost the tip of your finger, that is the proper word for it.
My mother works in A&E as a receptionist, and has to deal with people all the time telling her she's 'wrong' for using the correct terms when checking their medical records.
load of bull its not "on the surface" if its gone through so far as to sever the finger tip
If it's the tip then there's no bone or muscle so yep, that fits the definition of superficial.
Not like he said "man up, princess, it's just a scratch"
no its not. the definition is on or near the surface. your wrong, they're wrong. its not superficial having your guts ripped out is it "
Yeah, of course.
All those years in medical school were a total waste. I'm so glad you corrected your doctor on such a basic point. I'm sure that they now feel much better equipped to deal with the next minor injury that they come across.
Perhaps though instead of correcting your professional's medical terminology in the future, you'd like to try seven years of medical training first? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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'Superficial' just means 'on the surface'. So if you lost the tip of your finger, that is the proper word for it.
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To be fair, I personally wouldn't call losing the end of my finger superficial.
It's not life threatening either.
But it is a fucking nasty wound. ....  |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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"Good for you.
I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger!
'Superficial' just means 'on the surface'. So if you lost the tip of your finger, that is the proper word for it.
My mother works in A&E as a receptionist, and has to deal with people all the time telling her she's 'wrong' for using the correct terms when checking their medical records.
load of bull its not "on the surface" if its gone through so far as to sever the finger tip
If it's the tip then there's no bone or muscle so yep, that fits the definition of superficial.
Not like he said "man up, princess, it's just a scratch"
no its not. the definition is on or near the surface. your wrong, they're wrong. its not superficial having your guts ripped out is it
I'm wrong, the doctor's wrong, everybody is just wrong!! No, I agree it's not superficial having your guts ripped out, because that's likely to result in death...unlike the tip of a finger.
Anyway, hope your mum is on the mend soon OP, sounds like you've all been through a tough time. "
the dictionary s right, the millions of people who use the term are right. you and the doctor are wrong. ive just shown your definition doesnt make sense. whining on will not make you right  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good for you.
I had an accident recently where I lost the tip off a finger, the junior doctor said 'its superficial'
I replied you wouldn't be saying that if it was your finger!
'Superficial' just means 'on the surface'. So if you lost the tip of your finger, that is the proper word for it.
My mother works in A&E as a receptionist, and has to deal with people all the time telling her she's 'wrong' for using the correct terms when checking their medical records.
load of bull its not "on the surface" if its gone through so far as to sever the finger tip
If it's the tip then there's no bone or muscle so yep, that fits the definition of superficial.
Not like he said "man up, princess, it's just a scratch"
no its not. the definition is on or near the surface. your wrong, they're wrong. its not superficial having your guts ripped out is it
Yeah, of course.
All those years in medical school were a total waste. I'm so glad you corrected your doctor on such a basic point. I'm sure that they now feel much better equipped to deal with the next minor injury that they come across.
Perhaps though instead of correcting your professional's medical terminology in the future, you'd like to try seven years of medical training first?"
Have to agree. Wouldn't argue with someone who has training and experience. |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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"Not sure that I would be wasting my time or a consultants time in picking over his choice of words...?
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miligrams and grams? the difference can be death. 1000 people die a week of incompitance in british hospitals 
incompitance should be challenged. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not sure that I would be wasting my time or a consultants time in picking over his choice of words...?
miligrams and grams? the difference can be death. 1000 people die a week of incompitance in british hospitals
incompitance should be challenged. "
Incompetence should always be challenged (as in the OP's case).
So should rudeness and massive inaccuracy and hyperbole and people jumping up and down shouting that they know what they're talking about when they clearly don't. |
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Glad she's ok OP, and yes, it is totally understandable to vent at times of such stress. I'm sure the doc would have understood too.
And I know what you mean too DDUK, though I found consolation in a study a few years later that said men whose index fingers were shorter than their ring finger made better lovers.
(Still not sure it was worth losing it though )
Mr ddc |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not sure about the 1000 a week due to incompetence...
david prior head of nhs regulator."
10,000 a year is the statistic David Prior is usually quoted for. Still unacceptably high, but considerably fewer than what you're stating. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Doctors and consultants do get very defensive when you question them or complain. After many years searching, I've now got a great GP who always gives me honest answers. Bliss
I've obviously been lucky with the doctors I've seen over the years, never any problems at all. Or perhaps we just never hear about the good ones. "
I think that's true. My GPs and hospital care has been exemplary.
When I was diagnosed with Lupus and then Antiphospholipid Syndrome I was the only person the that practice with those conditions (there are more now) but my GPs went out the way to find out about it all and ensure I got the best care possible.
I had to move my mother to another GP practice when we first suspected dementia not because her GP was awful but just disinterested. Her new GP helped us to get the care she needed and move her into a home.
Bad care is out there and should always be challenged but I have seen cases where the patient and/or their families create the problems.
OP, I am not saying this is the case with your mother and I wish you both well. |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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"Not sure about the 1000 a week due to incompetence...
david prior head of nhs regulator.
10,000 a year is the statistic David Prior is usually quoted for. Still unacceptably high, but considerably fewer than what you're stating. "
11859 in england alone . london school of tropical medicines study found. 1000's about right isnt it really. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not sure about the 1000 a week due to incompetence...
david prior head of nhs regulator.
10,000 a year is the statistic David Prior is usually quoted for. Still unacceptably high, but considerably fewer than what you're stating.
11859 in england alone . london school of tropical medicines study found. 1000's about right isnt it really."
How so? That gives 228 a week. Add in some more for Scotland and Wales, but their populations are far lower, so it still gets you nowhere near 1000. Are you perhaps confusing weeks with months? |
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