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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

We were having a discussion with friends about the lad from Bad Lads Army, who, as a result of being n the show, is now a happy squaddie. Is this a good argument for bringing back an upto date form of conscription? Or, as one friend suggested a breach of peoples human rights? Or is it right that the army should have to mop up societies problems?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Any form of Military conscription has to be an absolute no no for me.

I used to be a supporter of the idea with a few tweaks to the old style.

Unemployed for 6 months - eligable for service

In full time employment - nope

In full time education - nope

Available for active service - nope (enough home duties to be performed without putting them on the front line)

I did believe that the education, trade training, discipline and respect they could learn would be a good thing and we do have a lot of empty training camps around the country.

But into todays economic climate the Armed forces simply cannot afford to pay to make our youth better people, those funds are needed for essentials for the armed forces.

However I would like to see a civilian force trained along the same lines as the military.

Thier training would be in education, trades and civil assistance.

Train them on Red fire engines instead of scrapping them, these engines can be used to pump water from flooded areas not just put fires out.

Train them in a high standard of first aid, evacuation procedures, food distribution etc for deployment in civil emergencies (floods, heavy snows, earthquakes (now happening in the UK), evacuation and tented area construction and lot's of other tasks a civilian emergency force could be used for.

Pay them a reasonable salary instead of paying them unemployment benefit.

Stop scrapping army landrovers and issue them to the force.

The army is constantly selling specialist vehicles like mobile bakeries, mobile field kitchens, mobile shower units and so on, these could be purchased from the forces and issued to the civilian force.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

You make a strong case and I agree in the present economic climate the armed forces can ill afford to take on the role of societies disciplinarian.

The civilian force is a good way of utilising the de-commissioned army/public services equipment and skilling up people ... a modern day Home Guard ... I shall be muttering "you stupid boy" all day now

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By *amschwingerzCouple  over a year ago

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We cant afford to equip our regular Army now..let alone a chav one for of work shy ex skag heads.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We cant afford to equip our regular Army now..let alone a chav one for of work shy ex skag heads."

Actually we can afford to equip them, much of the equipment would come from army surplus no longer used by the forces, training camps abound in the UK some no longer used with the current forces budgets, as the budget for the organisation would not come from the Defence budget it would not affect the Armed Forces in fact selling the surplus for them to use might bring in some income, renting the camps would bring in more and they could be maintained by the organisation as part of it's training so they armed forces would benefit in more ways than one.

The budget would come from existing funds allocated to states of emergency, from benefits paid to unemployed and from a fund the government could set up, if successfull there could be a small % of police and prison budgeting currently used extensively in dealing with repeat offenders.

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