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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago
Gloucester |
Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ? |
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over a year ago
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"Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ? "
If you contaminate his place of work he is entitled to compensation if you put it out of action, you are putting him of work otherwise. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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I'd have called the police. Kidnap, detention and extortion are all illegal.
Sure, she should pay for the mess but shouldn't be expected to be able to produce the money on the spot like that. And £65 is outrageous.
The police may well have had a dim _iew of the actions of the driver and the amount he was demanding. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"But it is not law for you to pay anything. And 65 is very steep if u ask me, I know I am a taxi driver"
I'd think legally he'd be entitled to (reasonable) compensation for loss of earnings for the time taken to clean up the mess. It'd be a civil case though rather than criminal, if she'd refused to pay, and hardly worth the time, costs and hassle. |
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over a year ago
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The local licensing authority will set a soiling fee that can be charged to offending passengers this would usually be about £35 to cover the cost of cleaning. However it's only reasonable that the offending person pays for the clean up and reasonable loss of earnings so £50 - £100 would be reasonable. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"The local licensing authority will set a soiling fee that can be charged to offending passengers this would usually be about £35 to cover the cost of cleaning. However it's only reasonable that the offending person pays for the clean up and reasonable loss of earnings so £50 - £100 would be reasonable. "
I think £65 is excessive, never mind £100. |
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"Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ? " taxis in glos r rubbish |
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I normally charge 50, sometimes they pay, sometimes they don't, i don't normally stress over it too much, although it is rather annoying. Having said that, I've had a puker every weekend, for the last 4 weeks, getting a bit fucked off with it now. The next one may get their face rubbed in it, while i insert my licence badge up their arse, then ring the office and quit |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"I normally charge 50, sometimes they pay, sometimes they don't, i don't normally stress over it too much, although it is rather annoying. Having said that, I've had a puker every weekend, for the last 4 weeks, getting a bit fucked off with it now. The next one may get their face rubbed in it, while i insert my licence badge up their arse, then ring the office and quit "
Every weekend for 4 weeks would tick me right off too.
If I felt queasy I'd ask the driver to pull over, hopefully in time to avoid throwing up in the cab. Or at least try to do it out the window so it only has to be hosed off the outside.
If I feel a bit off, I'll have the window open anyway, for the fresh air.
Then again, I rarely drink and I virtually never get d*unk enough that it would make me puke. I don't understand how that's enjoyable. |
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"I normally charge 50, sometimes they pay, sometimes they don't, i don't normally stress over it too much, although it is rather annoying. Having said that, I've had a puker every weekend, for the last 4 weeks, getting a bit fucked off with it now. The next one may get their face rubbed in it, while i insert my licence badge up their arse, then ring the office and quit
Every weekend for 4 weeks would tick me right off too.
If I felt queasy I'd ask the driver to pull over, hopefully in time to avoid throwing up in the cab. Or at least try to do it out the window so it only has to be hosed off the outside.
If I feel a bit off, I'll have the window open anyway, for the fresh air.
Then again, I rarely drink and I virtually never get d*unk enough that it would make me puke. I don't understand how that's enjoyable."
To be fair, most are good enough to ask to pull over, for some it may come up before they realise or whatever, and some just don't give shit.
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"The local licensing authority will set a soiling fee that can be charged to offending passengers this would usually be about £35 to cover the cost of cleaning. However it's only reasonable that the offending person pays for the clean up and reasonable loss of earnings so £50 - £100 would be reasonable. "
A 15 minute taxi ride home costs me around £15.
Assuming it takes at least an hour to clean up someone's puke, plus the time it takes to get rid of the smell, I'd say £65 isn't unreasonable.
A friend is a cabby, he says if they have a puker they're out of action for most of the evening.
To my way of thinking, not unreasonable to charge £65 - £100.
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
Wakefield |
It is not as black and white as some are making out.
It could be the taxi drivers style of driving made the person sick.
Even if there is a fouling fee displayed it would be a civil matter and if the driver did not have the persons name and adress it could go no further.
Any threats to detain or to march you down to a cash machine are illegal and could involve the taxi driver being charged by the police and the local authority removing their licence.
In the civilised old days it used to be _iewed as a hasard of the job, now due to idiots getting smashed it is a frequent occurence hence the fouling charge was set up.
As long as the carriage fare is paid anything else can only be enforced through later civil action. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd have to agree with the previous poster of rubbing their faces in it! Either that or find out where she works and go throw up all over her desk some half eaten kebab on a Monday morning!
Get some fucking sense of respect!
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whats wrong with society!
If you are sick or soil inside someone's car/taxi - why wouldn't you expect to pay for your mess to be cleaned?
£50 - £100 seems reasonable for it to be professionally cleaned.
Driver is also not going to be able to work until it is cleaned.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ? "
Err what do u think, it will valeted for free!
Surely it's all because she got pissed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"whats wrong with society!
If you are sick or soil inside someone's car/taxi - why wouldn't you expect to pay for your mess to be cleaned?
£50 - £100 seems reasonable for it to be professionally cleaned.
Driver is also not going to be able to work until it is cleaned.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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£65 is very unlikely to cover the cost of cleaning and loss of earnings. Driving a cab is not particularly well paid after you pay for the car, petrol insurance etc. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ?
Err what do u think, it will valeted for free!
Surely it's all because she got pissed."
The OP, if you read it, says she was not d*unk. |
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"I'd have to agree with the previous poster of rubbing their faces in it! Either that or find out where she works and go throw up all over her desk some half eaten kebab on a Monday morning!
Get some fucking sense of respect!
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"Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ?
Err what do u think, it will valeted for free!
Surely it's all because she got pissed.
The OP, if you read it, says she was not d*unk."
Throwing up may well of sobered her up
A lot though. Ive been complexly hammered before and then once youre sick you are a lot better. Don't miss those days.. Bleurgh x |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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"whats wrong with society!
If you are sick or soil inside someone's car/taxi - why wouldn't you expect to pay for your mess to be cleaned?
£50 - £100 seems reasonable for it to be professionally cleaned.
Driver is also not going to be able to work until it is cleaned.
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Look at it another way if a taxi is booked to take a pregnant woman to the hospital to give birth and her waters break in the taxi, would you then think it acceptable for her to be held until the clean up charge was paid?
Both reasons for the mess were self inflicted, one through drink the other through sex.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"whats wrong with society!
If you are sick or soil inside someone's car/taxi - why wouldn't you expect to pay for your mess to be cleaned?
£50 - £100 seems reasonable for it to be professionally cleaned.
Driver is also not going to be able to work until it is cleaned.
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Just no respect from some people anymore. |
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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago
Gloucester |
"Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road
at the mercy of this guy did not have
the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed
until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ?
Err what do u think, it will valeted for free!
Surely it's all because she got pissed."
Its the way it was delt with i have issues with |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It is not as black and white as some are making out.
It could be the taxi drivers style of driving made the person sick.
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what a load of codswallop....if the taxi driver was a dangerous driver he would not have a licence!! |
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"Some taxi companies round here won't let really d*unk people in unless they hand over £40 deposit beforehand. If they throw up they don't get it back. I don't blame them either. "
this is a good idea |
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"Some taxi companies round here won't let really d*unk people in unless they hand over £40 deposit beforehand. If they throw up they don't get it back. I don't blame them either.
this is a good idea"
Ive seen the same done in Ibiza and Tenerife as well. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ?
Err what do u think, it will valeted for free!
Surely it's all because she got pissed.
The OP, if you read it, says she was not d*unk.
Throwing up may well of sobered her up
A lot though. Ive been complexly hammered before and then once youre sick you are a lot better. Don't miss those days.. Bleurgh x"
Possibly but it's unfair on her for anyone to just assume that was the case.
Perhaps she'd been out to dinner and the food was dodgy. Maybe she was coming down with an infection or bug.
There are lots of reasons that someone might quite suddenly vomit that aren't related to alcohol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I normally charge 50, sometimes they pay, sometimes they don't, i don't normally stress over it too much, although it is rather annoying. Having said that, I've had a puker every weekend, for the last 4 weeks, getting a bit fucked off with it now. The next one may get their face rubbed in it, while i insert my licence badge up their arse, then ring the office and quit
Every weekend for 4 weeks would tick me right off too.
If I felt queasy I'd ask the driver to pull over, hopefully in time to avoid throwing up in the cab. Or at least try to do it out the window so it only has to be hosed off the outside.
If I feel a bit off, I'll have the window open anyway, for the fresh air.
Then again, I rarely drink and I virtually never get d*unk enough that it would make me puke. I don't understand how that's enjoyable."
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"It is not as black and white as some are making out.
It could be the taxi drivers style of driving made the person sick.
what a load of codswallop....if the taxi driver was a dangerous driver he would not have a licence!!"
Not strictly true. I got in a taxi on Sunday morning and the driver stalled as he pulled away from the curb, he kept braking and making us jerk around in the back seat.. He kept swerving to the other side of the road.. My head was doing that pigeon thing... I felt like I was gonna throw up and I hadn't even eaten let alone had anything to drink. That taxi driver had a license. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"It is not as black and white as some are making out.
It could be the taxi drivers style of driving made the person sick.
what a load of codswallop....if the taxi driver was a dangerous driver he would not have a licence!!
Not strictly true. I got in a taxi on Sunday morning and the driver stalled as he pulled away from the curb, he kept braking and making us jerk around in the back seat.. He kept swerving to the other side of the road.. My head was doing that pigeon thing... I felt like I was gonna throw up and I hadn't even eaten let alone had anything to drink. That taxi driver had a license. "
Did you ask to see it, just to be sure?
Did it have Kelloggs branding on it anywhere? |
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"It is not as black and white as some are making out.
It could be the taxi drivers style of driving made the person sick.
what a load of codswallop....if the taxi driver was a dangerous driver he would not have a licence!!
Not strictly true. I got in a taxi on Sunday morning and the driver stalled as he pulled away from the curb, he kept braking and making us jerk around in the back seat.. He kept swerving to the other side of the road.. My head was doing that pigeon thing... I felt like I was gonna throw up and I hadn't even eaten let alone had anything to drink. That taxi driver had a license.
Did you ask to see it, just to be sure?
Did it have Kelloggs branding on it anywhere?"
It was from a company that I have used for years, and he had his taxi licence thing on his window. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yeah I don't think £ 65 is unreasonable to clean up a load of honk. The smell is disgusting and saying it's a hazard of the job is flippant and disrespectful. I personally would be sick myself. Good on the taxi driver for sticking to his guns, maybe next time she wont get quite so poorly.
I have never ever honked up in a taxi and probably never will. No need for it. It's revolting. She should be ashamed of herself. Why didn't she tap on the window and ask him to stop if she wasn't that d*unk.
I'd be bloody annoyed too if I was her boyfriend. |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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"It is not as black and white as some are making out.
It could be the taxi drivers style of driving made the person sick.
what a load of codswallop....if the taxi driver was a dangerous driver he would not have a licence!!"
I did not say anything about dangerous driving. The style of driving contributs to travel sickness, this was shown in the late 1960s when automatic gearboxes became popular in buses and the frequence of travel sickness increased.
Eventually the autoboxes developed to give a smooth ride and the incedence of travel sickness reduced. |
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"whats wrong with society!
If you are sick or soil inside someone's car/taxi - why wouldn't you expect to pay for your mess to be cleaned?
£50 - £100 seems reasonable for it to be professionally cleaned.
Driver is also not going to be able to work until it is cleaned.
Adding caveats doesn't change the basic principal.
In your example I would hope the taxi driver would not hold up the lady, but at the same time I would hope the lady (or if she is accompanied by partner/friend) would seek out the driver at a later time and offer some funds.
Look at it another way if a taxi is booked to take a pregnant woman to the hospital to give birth and her waters break in the taxi, would you then think it acceptable for her to be held until the clean up charge was paid?
Both reasons for the mess were self inflicted, one through drink the other through sex.
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the matter of why she vomitted is not the issue ...the fact is that she did ...he now is unable to take any more fares and earn a living and will need to pay a valet fee before he can go back on the road ...perfectly reasonable £65 |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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Paying a charge is not the issue the issue is the taxi driver was kicking her out mid route
"Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ? "
The taxi driver should have been reported and the local authority should have removed his licence.
The correct procedure for the taxi driver if the passenger does not pay a fouling fee is to take civil action through the courts to claim a fouling fee.
It is never acceptable to kick a person out of a taxi in such circumstances and it is never acceptable to hold the hostage to money or to march them to a cash machine.
Such action is illegal in all civilised society
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"Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ?
Err what do u think, it will valeted for free!
Surely it's all because she got pissed.
The OP, if you read it, says she was not d*unk.
Throwing up may well of sobered her up
A lot though. Ive been complexly hammered before and then once youre sick you are a lot better. Don't miss those days.. Bleurgh x
Possibly but it's unfair on her for anyone to just assume that was the case.
Perhaps she'd been out to dinner and the food was dodgy. Maybe she was coming down with an infection or bug.
There are lots of reasons that someone might quite suddenly vomit that aren't related to alcohol."
If that was the case it would be pretty simple to pull down the window, or ask the driver to stop rather than puking in the car. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ?
Err what do u think, it will valeted for free!
Surely it's all because she got pissed.
The OP, if you read it, says she was not d*unk.
Throwing up may well of sobered her up
A lot though. Ive been complexly hammered before and then once youre sick you are a lot better. Don't miss those days.. Bleurgh x
Possibly but it's unfair on her for anyone to just assume that was the case.
Perhaps she'd been out to dinner and the food was dodgy. Maybe she was coming down with an infection or bug.
There are lots of reasons that someone might quite suddenly vomit that aren't related to alcohol.
If that was the case it would be pretty simple to pull down the window, or ask the driver to stop rather than puking in the car."
True, and as I said above, I would.
Sickness can happen very suddenly though. If she wasn't well her reaction time could have been off too.
Anyway, my point was it's not fair to simply assume she was d*unk, as some people are. |
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Anyway, my point was it's not fair to simply assume she was d*unk, as some people are."
I dont think the taxi driver would be remotely interested in why she vomitted ...probably more concerned about his inability to earn money and concerning himself about what time the local valet station opens so he can get back on the road to try and recoup his losses |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
warrington |
"But it is not law for you to pay anything. And 65 is very steep if u ask me, I know I am a taxi driver"
??? if it was six o'clock on a friday and he can't work all night thats £250 in loss of earnings. you know diddly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Jess has pointed out it was more about the way it was handled. You do have to factor in loss of earnings into any recompense. And the 65 would probably come nowhere near covering this loss. However it's not acceptable to hold someone to ransom, let alone a woman on her own. She was probably very scared. Surely she could have given him her name and address and resolved the matter later. Yes I'm aware there's a risk she could give a false address or not pay later, but I feel that comes under hazards of the job. There is no legal precedant here is there? |
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Jesus, calm down. You will all be telling me the next time i have wee in the back of a taxi i could be in trouble? Or even worse that i will have to clean it up myself? Your all starting to scare me now. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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Anyway, my point was it's not fair to simply assume she was d*unk, as some people are.
I dont think the taxi driver would be remotely interested in why she vomitted ...probably more concerned about his inability to earn money and concerning himself about what time the local valet station opens so he can get back on the road to try and recoup his losses "
I didn't suggest he would.
People on this thread are assuming she was d*unk, even though the OP says she wasn't.
That's not a fair assumption to make.
It's not a fair assumption, regardless of whether the driver cares, which is not something I even commented on.
So, just in case it's still not clear, I said that it is not fair or reasonable to assume that if someone is sick they must be d*unk.
That statement has nothing to do with whether she is responsible, whether she should pay, what the driver thinks, how much is reasonable as a charge, whether he was right to hold her to ransom or anything else.
It concerns only the automatic assumption that because she was sick, she must have been d*unk, which is ridiculous. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not an unreasonable at all I don't think. Since he won't be able to take any fares on his two busiest days of the week.
Think of the lost fares.
And if he was to drop her off, would she really later produce the fee, doubt it. They have to demand it there and then. |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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Anyway, my point was it's not fair to simply assume she was d*unk, as some people are.
I dont think the taxi driver would be remotely interested in why she vomitted ...probably more concerned about his inability to earn money and concerning himself about what time the local valet station opens so he can get back on the road to try and recoup his losses
I didn't suggest he would.
People on this thread are assuming she was d*unk, even though the OP says she wasn't.
That's not a fair assumption to make.
It's not a fair assumption, regardless of whether the driver cares, which is not something I even commented on.
So, just in case it's still not clear, I said that it is not fair or reasonable to assume that if someone is sick they must be d*unk.
That statement has nothing to do with whether she is responsible, whether she should pay, what the driver thinks, how much is reasonable as a charge, whether he was right to hold her to ransom or anything else.
It concerns only the automatic assumption that because she was sick, she must have been d*unk, which is ridiculous."
"she had a few but not really out of it"
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Not an unreasonable at all I don't think. Since he won't be able to take any fares on his two busiest days of the week.
Think of the lost fares.
And if he was to drop her off, would she really later produce the fee, doubt it. They have to demand it there and then. "
That is, of course, assuming she was sick on any upholstery. If it was somewhere that could be wiped clean, or on mats that could be removed, for example, it would be a bit different to someone projectile vomiting over the entire back of the cab.
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
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Anyway, my point was it's not fair to simply assume she was d*unk, as some people are.
I dont think the taxi driver would be remotely interested in why she vomitted ...probably more concerned about his inability to earn money and concerning himself about what time the local valet station opens so he can get back on the road to try and recoup his losses
I didn't suggest he would.
People on this thread are assuming she was d*unk, even though the OP says she wasn't.
That's not a fair assumption to make.
It's not a fair assumption, regardless of whether the driver cares, which is not something I even commented on.
So, just in case it's still not clear, I said that it is not fair or reasonable to assume that if someone is sick they must be d*unk.
That statement has nothing to do with whether she is responsible, whether she should pay, what the driver thinks, how much is reasonable as a charge, whether he was right to hold her to ransom or anything else.
It concerns only the automatic assumption that because she was sick, she must have been d*unk, which is ridiculous.
"she had a few but not really out of it"
its perfectly reasonable to assume she was d*unk."
And the few words immediately prior to those you have very selectively quoted?
"she was not d*unk"
It's not reasonable to assume she was d*unk at all.
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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Anyway, my point was it's not fair to simply assume she was d*unk, as some people are.
I dont think the taxi driver would be remotely interested in why she vomitted ...probably more concerned about his inability to earn money and concerning himself about what time the local valet station opens so he can get back on the road to try and recoup his losses
I didn't suggest he would.
People on this thread are assuming she was d*unk, even though the OP says she wasn't.
That's not a fair assumption to make.
It's not a fair assumption, regardless of whether the driver cares, which is not something I even commented on.
So, just in case it's still not clear, I said that it is not fair or reasonable to assume that if someone is sick they must be d*unk.
That statement has nothing to do with whether she is responsible, whether she should pay, what the driver thinks, how much is reasonable as a charge, whether he was right to hold her to ransom or anything else.
It concerns only the automatic assumption that because she was sick, she must have been d*unk, which is ridiculous.
"she had a few but not really out of it"
its perfectly reasonable to assume she was d*unk.
And the few words immediately prior to those you have very selectively quoted?
"she was not d*unk"
It's not reasonable to assume she was d*unk at all.
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it is. the op clearly means she was d*unk but not staggering about |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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It is never acceptable to kick a person out of a taxi in such circumstances
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I sure would if I was a taxi driver
To the OP....I don't think charging a person for messing up his cab is wrong, he will have to clean it up ( bluergh ) and try and get rid of the smell so he could get back to work, which might not happen the same day. I don't see why the person should be out of pocket for someone throwing up.
If she hadn't paid her fare the Taxi driver could I suppose drive her to the police station for them to make her, so maybe he should have done this. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
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Anyway, my point was it's not fair to simply assume she was d*unk, as some people are.
I dont think the taxi driver would be remotely interested in why she vomitted ...probably more concerned about his inability to earn money and concerning himself about what time the local valet station opens so he can get back on the road to try and recoup his losses
I didn't suggest he would.
People on this thread are assuming she was d*unk, even though the OP says she wasn't.
That's not a fair assumption to make.
It's not a fair assumption, regardless of whether the driver cares, which is not something I even commented on.
So, just in case it's still not clear, I said that it is not fair or reasonable to assume that if someone is sick they must be d*unk.
That statement has nothing to do with whether she is responsible, whether she should pay, what the driver thinks, how much is reasonable as a charge, whether he was right to hold her to ransom or anything else.
It concerns only the automatic assumption that because she was sick, she must have been d*unk, which is ridiculous.
"she had a few but not really out of it"
its perfectly reasonable to assume she was d*unk.
And the few words immediately prior to those you have very selectively quoted?
"she was not d*unk"
It's not reasonable to assume she was d*unk at all.
it is. the op clearly means she was d*unk but not staggering about "
Rubbish. It actually says she'd been drinking but wasn't d*unk. |
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"whats wrong with society!
If you are sick or soil inside someone's car/taxi - why wouldn't you expect to pay for your mess to be cleaned?
£50 - £100 seems reasonable for it to be professionally cleaned.
Driver is also not going to be able to work until it is cleaned.
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Does it matter if she was d*unk or not, she had been drinking enough to make her puke allover a taxi....plus, the OP's opinion of " not reall out of it" would probably be totally different to my opinion of the same thing.
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"FFS.
How to interpret "she was not d*unk" in clear English as "she was d*unk".
The judge, jury and executioners of fab strike again.
Facts? Meh, who needs facts. It's clearly obvious..."
You are getting hung up on semantics....maybe lets get back to the fact she threw up, whatever the reason |
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over a year ago
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I've never puked in a taxi but if I did would I pay him £65 quid?
I dunno. Depends how far away from home I was If i paid it or not.
If I'd be proper stranded at stupid o'clock if he was to throw me out then I'd pay it. Just to stop him throwing me out. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Does it matter if she was d*unk or not, she had been drinking enough to make her puke allover a taxi."
That's my point.
Some are assuming she was sick because she was d*unk.
There are loads of reasons people are sick. It may have had nothing to do with alcohol.
I feel sorry for this stranger we are discussing, who had a crappy night (not necessarily her own fault) and is now being judged with no chance of defending herself.
That's why it matters whether she was d*unk. Some are just assuming she must have been and that's not a fair judgement.
As above, she may have been out to eat, had a few glasses of wine with dinner and eaten something dodgy.
The reason doesn't matter to the driver, but to say she must have been d*unk is unfair. |
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over a year ago
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this actually concerns me
Not the fact of the fine as she was sick, but the person was d*unk and her judgment would be impaired and she was left on here own in that state
Personally if i was the taxi driver i would have got her home safe then argued the toss for the money
good on the OP for staying with her |
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over a year ago
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It don't matter if she was d*unk or not she soiled the taxi so yes she should pay a soiling charge although on a funny note the seagulls of rhyl never get charged when the inflict a sustained Ariel assault on the taxis on the rank often getting their bombardment perfectly aimed at the open windows on sunny days |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"FFS.
How to interpret "she was not d*unk" in clear English as "she was d*unk".
The judge, jury and executioners of fab strike again.
Facts? Meh, who needs facts. It's clearly obvious...
"she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it" can only mean she was d*unk to anyreasonable person.
your posts have been irrational and emmotional. have you been drinking?
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Unbelievable.
It is possible to have a couple of drinks without being d*unk.
She'd had a couple of drinks, clearly, but was not d*unk.
She had been drinking but was not d*unk means she wasn't d*unk. It can't, by any definition, mean she was d*unk.
Poor woman may have been actually ill and some of you are acting like she's some sort of d*unken lout and it was her own fault she was sick. It may not have been.
Yes, it's fair to expect her to pay either way but we don't know enough to blame her for being d*unk.
The poor woman isn't even on here and she's been declared some kind of d*unken taxi soiling lush. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Does it matter if she was d*unk or not, she had been drinking enough to make her puke allover a taxi.
That's my point.
Some are assuming she was sick because she was d*unk.
There are loads of reasons people are sick. It may have had nothing to do with alcohol.
I feel sorry for this stranger we are discussing, who had a crappy night (not necessarily her own fault) and is now being judged with no chance of defending herself.
That's why it matters whether she was d*unk. Some are just assuming she must have been and that's not a fair judgement.
As above, she may have been out to eat, had a few glasses of wine with dinner and eaten something dodgy.
The reason doesn't matter to the driver, but to say she must have been d*unk is unfair."
So is it that people are talking about a woman that is bothering you? Why do you feel sorry for a woman who you don't know being spoken about on a website?
I really am not sure why you are getting so het up as people are just posting what THEY think of the OP. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"this actually concerns me
Not the fact of the fine as she was sick, but the person was d*unk and her judgment would be impaired and she was left on here own in that state
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Maybe she shouldn't have got in that state in the first place then ?
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Poor woman may have been actually ill and some of you are acting like she's some sort of d*unken lout and it was her own fault she was sick. It may not have been.
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And on the other hand, she may well have been. |
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over a year ago
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"this actually concerns me
Not the fact of the fine as she was sick, but the person was d*unk and her judgment would be impaired and she was left on here own in that state
Maybe she shouldn't have got in that state in the first place then ?
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Maybe not but many do. I'd bet most on this post have at some point in their lives i know I have. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"So is it that people are talking about a woman that is bothering you? As I really am not sure why you are getting so het up as people are just posting what THEY think of the OP"
It's the assumption she "had to have been" d*unk. She didn't.
If the thread is about whether the charge was valid and whether the taxi drivers actions were reasonable, as you say, the reason she was sick is irrelevant.
We don't know if she was sick due to alcohol.
I know of people arrested for being "d*unk" in public when they were actually having seizures, heart attacks and other serious health problems. The "they were obviously d*unk because they were sick/staggering about/slurring" assumption isn't a reasonable one. It's unfair.
She "may" have been sick due to alcohol, yes. Nobody here has any grounds to state it as a fact. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"this actually concerns me
Not the fact of the fine as she was sick, but the person was d*unk and her judgment would be impaired and she was left on here own in that state
Maybe she shouldn't have got in that state in the first place then ?
Maybe not but many do. I'd bet most on this post have at some point in their lives i know I have."
I can honestly say I have never been on my own in the back of a taxi after a drinking session throwing up no.
The point I was making though was, if people are in a vulnerable state, why is it a taxi drivers responsibilty to make sure she gets home safe. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"So is it that people are talking about a woman that is bothering you? As I really am not sure why you are getting so het up as people are just posting what THEY think of the OP
It's the assumption she "had to have been" d*unk. She didn't.
If the thread is about whether the charge was valid and whether the taxi drivers actions were reasonable, as you say, the reason she was sick is irrelevant.
We don't know if she was sick due to alcohol.
I know of people arrested for being "d*unk" in public when they were actually having seizures, heart attacks and other serious health problems. The "they were obviously d*unk because they were sick/staggering about/slurring" assumption isn't a reasonable one. It's unfair.
She "may" have been sick due to alcohol, yes. Nobody here has any grounds to state it as a fact."
It is their right to say it though whether you like it or not just as your rights are to disagree if you want to.
Rather then keep this off track lets get back to what the OP was about |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"this actually concerns me
Not the fact of the fine as she was sick, but the person was d*unk and her judgment would be impaired and she was left on here own in that state
Maybe she shouldn't have got in that state in the first place then ?
Maybe not but many do. I'd bet most on this post have at some point in their lives i know I have."
and if you are sick... you know the consequences.....
that is a taxi that cant be used the rest of the night..... that is someones livelyhood you are messing with....
but hey... all me me me isn't it |
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over a year ago
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Maybe not but many do. I'd bet most on this post have at some point in their lives i know I have."
Fuck me I've been absolutely arseholed many times. Never puked in a taxi though.
And if I did. I wouldn't be expecting anyone to say "oh you poor bloke" though.
If i puked in a taxi. Sorry but that's on me. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"this actually concerns me
Not the fact of the fine as she was sick, but the person was d*unk and her judgment would be impaired and she was left on here own in that state
Maybe she shouldn't have got in that state in the first place then ?
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Maybe she didn't. That's my point.
I know someone, personally, who was in WHSmith, buying a paper. On his way to pay, he had a mild stroke. He staggered out of the shop in confusion without paying. The store thought he was d*unk and stealing the paper and called the police. He was arrested.
Now it's unlikely that the woman in this case had a stroke and anyway, as the OP says, she wasn't acting d*unk. However, just because she'd had a couple of drinks, it's very unfair to assume she "got herself in that state".
She might have been genuinely ill and not got herself in any state.
If you had a glass or two of wine at lunch and we're subsequently sick because you'd eaten something you had an allergy to, how would you like people just assuming you were d*unk? Just because you'd obviously had a drink and, although you didn't appear d*unk, you were sick? |
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over a year ago
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"*sigh*
I was writing that when you wrote your post.
If you think it's reasonable for anyone to assume she had to be d*unk because she vomited, I'm saddened.
I'm out."
To be fair the ONLY person making any assumptions here is you. Because nowhere in the OP has she said that (and I've read it 3 times. ).
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"*sigh*
I was writing that when you wrote your post.
If you think it's reasonable for anyone to assume she had to be d*unk because she vomited, I'm saddened.
I'm out.
To be fair the ONLY person making any assumptions here is you. Because nowhere in the OP has she said that (and I've read it 3 times. ).
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It's not in the OP. It's in several of the comments on the thread, discussing the OP.
The OP clearly says she'd obviously had a couple of drinks but wasn't d*unk. |
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over a year ago
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"this actually concerns me
Not the fact of the fine as she was sick, but the person was d*unk and her judgment would be impaired and she was left on here own in that state
Maybe she shouldn't have got in that state in the first place then ?
Maybe not but many do. I'd bet most on this post have at some point in their lives i know I have.
and if you are sick... you know the consequences.....
that is a taxi that cant be used the rest of the night..... that is someones livelyhood you are messing with....
but hey... all me me me isn't it"
Lol _abio, you pick on the post where I said we all do stupid things from time to time and ignore the one where I say I agree it's not unreasonable for the taxi driver to expect recompense but to have dealt with it better. |
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over a year ago
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Maybe not but many do. I'd bet most on this post have at some point in their lives i know I have.
Fuck me I've been absolutely arseholed many times. Never puked in a taxi though.
And if I did. I wouldn't be expecting anyone to say "oh you poor bloke" though.
If i puked in a taxi. Sorry but that's on me. "
Same response to you as I gave _abio. Read the whole thread and both my comments. Dont take one out of context. |
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over a year ago
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"Paying a charge is not the issue the issue is the taxi driver was kicking her out mid route
Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ?
The taxi driver should have been reported and the local authority should have removed his licence.
The correct procedure for the taxi driver if the passenger does not pay a fouling fee is to take civil action through the courts to claim a fouling fee.
It is never acceptable to kick a person out of a taxi in such circumstances and it is never acceptable to hold the hostage to money or to march them to a cash machine.
Such action is illegal in all civilised society
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I've kicked people out of my taxi for a lot less than this. It is my place of work. Speak to me in a manner I don't like and you are out. If you don' t say please at the window I am unlikely to even let you in. We are not there to be treated like shit.
£65 is a very reasonable price for fouling a taxi. They have probably lost a nights work out of it.
And the police are mostly very helpful in this situation. I've had one officer take the pukee to a cash point to get the money for me.
Regardless if you are d*unk or not if you puke in a cab it is only right for you to pay for it to be cleaned. I'll come and puke on your living room carpet and see how you like it. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"*sigh*
I was writing that when you wrote your post.
If you think it's reasonable for anyone to assume she had to be d*unk because she vomited, I'm saddened.
I'm out.
To be fair the ONLY person making any assumptions here is you. Because nowhere in the OP has she said that (and I've read it 3 times. ).
It's not in the OP. It's in several of the comments on the thread, discussing the OP.
The OP clearly says she'd obviously had a couple of drinks but wasn't d*unk."
Example from the thread:
" Err what do u think, it will valeted for free!
Surely it's all because she got pissed."
Assumption = she was sick because she got pissed.
The OP says she wasn't pissed.
I'm not saying she isn't responsible or shouldn't pay, just that's it's wrong to assume that if someone is sick, they must be d*unk, even if they have had a drink or two.
They may actually need medical care, (like the guy in WHSmith who had the stroke. When he should have been in hospital, he was in a police cell. He was also a lovely old bloke, absolutely honest and he was distraught about being arrested. Poor guy was so ashamed.
That's why it bothers me when people are judged as being d*unk when they may not be. They may be ill or even require medical attention. |
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Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought. |
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over a year ago
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"It is not as black and white as some are making out.
It could be the taxi drivers style of driving made the person sick.
what a load of codswallop....if the taxi driver was a dangerous driver he would not have a licence!!"
Are you kidding me??? Some taxi drivers, and I say some in order not to tar all with the same brush, are absolutely horrendous drivers, they cut you up, tail you and just have absolute zero consideration for other road users; and I'm not just talking about the unlicenced ones, in my experience it has been the licenced big firms that have big fleets so they don't give a shit how their drivers behave. |
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over a year ago
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"this actually concerns me
Not the fact of the fine as she was sick, but the person was d*unk and her judgment would be impaired and she was left on here own in that state
Maybe she shouldn't have got in that state in the first place then ?
Maybe not but many do. I'd bet most on this post have at some point in their lives i know I have.
I can honestly say I have never been on my own in the back of a taxi after a drinking session throwing up no.
The point I was making though was, if people are in a vulnerable state, why is it a taxi drivers responsibilty to make sure she gets home safe."
It isn't a taxi drivers responsibility. The only responsibility lies with the person themselves. I dunno maybe the nice guy in me would hope that a driver would take the human being angle into play. Naive of me i know lol |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"*sigh*
I was writing that when you wrote your post.
If you think it's reasonable for anyone to assume she had to be d*unk because she vomited, I'm saddened.
I'm out."
I think people can assume what they want on the thread, it isn't about what I think is reasonable.
I am just trying to get the thread back to the OP |
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over a year ago
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£65 would sting a bit to pay but it is something you can control and doesn't seem at all unreasonable - as others have pointed out, cleaning and loss of earnings would amount to more. |
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"It's is illegal for a taxi driver to kick you out of the cab if your getting sick. There suppose to take you home "
What a load of bollocks. I've kicked people out because I don't like the tone of their voice. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought. "
as others have said.... the taxi firms do not set the rates for black cabs for example... the local authorities do
just as is the case for soiling charges
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought. "
Really?!!
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"It's is illegal for a taxi driver to kick you out of the cab if your getting sick. There suppose to take you home
What a load of bollocks. I've kicked people out because I don't like the tone of their voice. "
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought. "
No I don't agree. |
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over a year ago
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"Paying a charge is not the issue the issue is the taxi driver was kicking her out mid route
Soo on my walk home from town tonight i got caught up in a nightmare issue,this lady going home in a taxi had been sick on the back seat, now she was not d*unk, had a few but not really out of it.
The taxi driver being quite irate was demanding £65.00 fine to be paid right there, the lady stranded on Bristol road at the mercy of this guy did not have the money to pay him so called her boyfriend who was not happy, i stayed until he came to get her but dam £65
He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ?
The taxi driver should have been reported and the local authority should have removed his licence.
The correct procedure for the taxi driver if the passenger does not pay a fouling fee is to take civil action through the courts to claim a fouling fee.
It is never acceptable to kick a person out of a taxi in such circumstances and it is never acceptable to hold the hostage to money or to march them to a cash machine.
Such action is illegal in all civilised society
I've kicked people out of my taxi for a lot less than this. It is my place of work. Speak to me in a manner I don't like and you are out. If you don' t say please at the window I am unlikely to even let you in. We are not there to be treated like shit.
£65 is a very reasonable price for fouling a taxi. They have probably lost a nights work out of it.
And the police are mostly very helpful in this situation. I've had one officer take the pukee to a cash point to get the money for me.
Regardless if you are d*unk or not if you puke in a cab it is only right for you to pay for it to be cleaned. I'll come and puke on your living room carpet and see how you like it. "
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree."
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok. "
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats |
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In what world is the taxi driver in the wrong for some one puking in his cab and expecting compensation for it! Some of the comments on here are amazing and seem t suggest that taxi drivers are carrying out a public duty rather than earning a living |
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok. "
That's a very civil disagreement right there! |
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats "
I went step further and threw up in my friends handbag ~ well it was bigger than mine & open!!
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By *imal75Man
over a year ago
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Guys, the Cleaning Bill to clean a Taxi with Vomit can be upto £80 - £100, plus loss of work for that evening. Would you want to sit in a taxi that smells of vomit. I think the Taxi driver was spot on and the lady got away with a cheap bill. x |
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"In what world is the taxi driver in the wrong for some one puking in his cab and expecting compensation for it! Some of the comments on here are amazing and seem t suggest that taxi drivers are carrying out a public duty rather than earning a living"
The original point was more how it was dealt with. I dont think anyone disagrees that some compensation is in order. |
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats
I went step further and threw up in my friends handbag ~ well it was bigger than mine & open!!
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Haha. That's equally brilliant, funny and wrong! |
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats
I went step further and threw up in my friends handbag ~ well it was bigger than mine & open!!
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Hahaha... Oops!!! I know someone who did this at a business dinner. Had too much champagne, felt dodgy, couldn't get to the loo in time so puked into her handbag under the table.. Except it wasn't her handbag it was her bosses! |
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats
I went step further and threw up in my friends handbag ~ well it was bigger than mine & open!!
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If I had a choice I would always throw up in somebody else's handbag |
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats
I went step further and threw up in my friends handbag ~ well it was bigger than mine & open!!
Hahaha... Oops!!! I know someone who did this at a business dinner. Had too much champagne, felt dodgy, couldn't get to the loo in time so puked into her handbag under the table.. Except it wasn't her handbag it was her bosses! "
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats
I went step further and threw up in my friends handbag ~ well it was bigger than mine & open!!
Hahaha... Oops!!! I know someone who did this at a business dinner. Had too much champagne, felt dodgy, couldn't get to the loo in time so puked into her handbag under the table.. Except it wasn't her handbag it was her bosses!
oh dear!"
She just grabbed what she thought was her plain black bag.. She was mortified! She did say though that her boss kept topping up her glass so it was partly her fault |
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats "
A taxi driver is self employed, so works the hours to suit him/herself. Its not unsociable hours for someone who is trying to bring their handicap down during the day. Why should i pay their green fees.
They work the night shift for inflated income and greed. Allegedly.... |
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He had orders to basically kidnap her and take her back to town. I see his side but can taxi drivers detain you in such a manor ? "
Just checked and apparently, according to a quote from Swindon's Police Commissioner, it is a criminal offence to refuse to pay either the fare or the spoilage fee, (classed as theft) so the driver would be well within his rights to keep the back doors locked and drive her to the Police Station, unless she agreed to let him drive her to the nearest cash-point.
4 weekends in a row? Together with regular runaway fare dodgers? Truly shocking!
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats
A taxi driver is self employed, so works the hours to suit him/herself. Its not unsociable hours for someone who is trying to bring their handicap down during the day. Why should i pay their green fees.
They work the night shift for inflated income and greed. Allegedly.... "
I see. Those pesky greedy, golf playing taxi drivers they're an absolute menace. I'm shocked that they get annoyed if their back seats are used as a vomitarium. |
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats
A taxi driver is self employed, so works the hours to suit him/herself. Its not unsociable hours for someone who is trying to bring their handicap down during the day. Why should i pay their green fees.
They work the night shift for inflated income and greed. Allegedly.... "
And?
I really can't see what is wrong with someone that is self employed working hours that allow them to indulge in their passions in life?
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"I normally charge 50, sometimes they pay, sometimes they don't, i don't normally stress over it too much, although it is rather annoying. Having said that, I've had a puker every weekend, for the last 4 weeks, getting a bit fucked off with it now. The next one may get their face rubbed in it, while i insert my licence badge up their arse, then ring the office and quit "
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Perhaps keep some thick plastic sacs in the car and if you feel someone is going to be ill hand over and tell them if they mess the car there will be a Fee. They should at least manage to get it in a bag..
I would be really annoyed if someone threw up in my car. always carried an ice cream container when kids were small. |
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats
A taxi driver is self employed, so works the hours to suit him/herself. Its not unsociable hours for someone who is trying to bring their handicap down during the day. Why should i pay their green fees.
They work the night shift for inflated income and greed. Allegedly....
I see. Those pesky greedy, golf playing taxi drivers they're an absolute menace. I'm shocked that they get annoyed if their back seats are used as a vomitarium. "
An absolute menace is right, shouldn't allow them on the bloody road. Haha.
Is vomitarium even a word? If so I'm impressed. |
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They work the night shift for inflated income and greed. Allegedly....
Or to make ends meet as it is busier of a night? Do taxi firms charge more of a night time?"
Ours charge time and a half after midnight, they also get fares going further afield so it's definitely pays more but I doubt its overly lucrative, The 2 main firms are in a price war so during the day fares max out at £6. To be honest I can't see how they make a living if they don't do the night shift. |
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its not the taxi drivers responsibility to have bags available for people to vomit into ...how about this ...if you think you may be incapable of travelling for 15 minutes in a car without vomitting ...carry your own bag |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought. "
This is the one post that makes me on this thread.
When you work do you think you have been well compensated if your money is stopped in the middle of your work?
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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They work the night shift for inflated income and greed. Allegedly....
Or to make ends meet as it is busier of a night? Do taxi firms charge more of a night time?
Ours charge time and a half after midnight, they also get fares going further afield so it's definitely pays more but I doubt its overly lucrative, The 2 main firms are in a price war so during the day fares max out at £6. To be honest I can't see how they make a living if they don't do the night shift."
Good luck to them then, I would probably do the same if it was me. although I am not sure the sick on the seats would be a bonus.
On the other side of the coin people would complain if they were not earning enough so had to claim benefits. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Ok so the legal standpoint as now been confirmed. Ask for payment and if none forthcoming drive to copshop. Driving to cash point is an absolute no no."
And take a friends handbag just in case |
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This is the one post that makes me on this thread.
When you work do you think you have been well compensated if your money is stopped in the middle of your work?
The point I'm making Lickety is that fares inflate 15-25% at night because of accidents happening that might cut their working time short. Now you muliply that by 5 nights of 10 hour shifts for 1 accident and i think the compensation more than balances itself out. |
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The point I'm making Lickety is that fares inflate 15-25% at night because of accidents happening that might cut their working time short. Now you muliply that by 5 nights of 10 hour shifts for 1 accident and i think the compensation more than balances itself out. "
how much work do you think they are getting at 2 or 3 o clock in the morning on a monday or tuesday ? |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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"Ok so the legal standpoint as now been confirmed. Ask for payment and if none forthcoming drive to copshop. Driving to cash point is an absolute no no."
legal seagulls. its only illegal to refuse to pay. not not to pay. its a civil matter. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This is the one post that makes me on this thread.
When you work do you think you have been well compensated if your money is stopped in the middle of your work?
The point I'm making Lickety is that fares inflate 15-25% at night because of accidents happening that might cut their working time short. Now you muliply that by 5 nights of 10 hour shifts for 1 accident and i think the compensation more than balances itself out. "
I'm with Lickety, I really can;t see your logic in that the taxi driver should just accept it.
They charge extra because it is unscociable hours and potentially dangerous not because someone might puke |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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This is the one post that makes me on this thread.
When you work do you think you have been well compensated if your money is stopped in the middle of your work?
The point I'm making Lickety is that fares inflate 15-25% at night because of accidents happening that might cut their working time short. Now you muliply that by 5 nights of 10 hour shifts for 1 accident and i think the compensation more than balances itself out. "
They are self employed and depending on others needing their service. Two quiet nights may mean they are out at a loss that week. To then lose another night, perhaps when it's busier like a Friday or Saturday means they are down on the week and possibly the month.
I guess they could just stop paying their bills because it's their fault for not factoring in enough loss into their business model and the other businesses expecting payments should have factored enough of those losses from their customers too.
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Maybe Taxis should have sick bags like planes do..."
You would think that was a no brainer if you regularly picked up inebriated people. Take your sick home with you in a little doggy bag |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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"Maybe Taxis should have sick bags like planes do...
You would think that was a no brainer if you regularly picked up inebriated people. Take your sick home with you in a little doggy bag "
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I have used the same taxi firm for year. I have an agreement that if either myself or my daughter was ill in their cab, they would send me the valeting bill. Touchwood it's never happened. |
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A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought.
No I don't agree.
Oh. Ok.
The extra rates are for unsocial hours not in case someone vomits.
A friend of ours vomited in her handbag to avoid getting on the taxi seats
A taxi driver is self employed, so works the hours to suit him/herself. Its not unsociable hours for someone who is trying to bring their handicap down during the day. Why should i pay their green fees.
They work the night shift for inflated income and greed. Allegedly....
I see. Those pesky greedy, golf playing taxi drivers they're an absolute menace. I'm shocked that they get annoyed if their back seats are used as a vomitarium.
An absolute menace is right, shouldn't allow them on the bloody road. Haha.
Is vomitarium even a word? If so I'm impressed. "
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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago
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"Maybe Taxis should have sick bags like planes do...
You would think that was a no brainer if you regularly picked up inebriated people. Take your sick home with you in a little doggy bag "
I did that once on a bus in a carrier bag .... some bloke was chatting me up when I got off and asked if he could hold my bag? yes I gave it to him lol |
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Throwing up while travelling happens... I can't use taxis as I'm sick if I'm not driving most of the time. So I don't use them.
I think the op is more concerned with the way the taxi driver dealt with it. From what I am aware they can charge it but certainly not meant to leave a vulnerable person stranded and could have his licence yanked if reported regardless of how annoying it is for her to have been sick.
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"Why not breathalyse people before they get in.
(Sarcasm) "
I know of drivers that won't take people if they look pissed up and falling all over the place. Not worth re cleaning bill!!
Obvs not in my case (scroll up^^) |
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"Why not breathalyse people before they get in.
(Sarcasm)
I know of drivers that won't take people if they look pissed up and falling all over the place. Not worth re cleaning bill!!
Obvs not in my case (scroll up^^) "
So are Taxi drivers not in the same category as cake makers when it comes to providing a service for the public? How come they are aloud to pick & choose? Seems unfair to me. |
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"Why not breathalyse people before they get in.
(Sarcasm)
I know of drivers that won't take people if they look pissed up and falling all over the place. Not worth re cleaning bill!!
Obvs not in my case (scroll up^^)
So are Taxi drivers not in the same category as cake makers when it comes to providing a service for the public? How come they are aloud to pick & choose? Seems unfair to me. "
I suspect if they reused a fare based on sexuality your comparison would be valid. |
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"Maybe look at it from another point.
A taxi driver chooses to work the night shift because its alot more lucrative than a day shift. The rates go up 15-25% after certain times, not because petrol increases but to combat the ills that a night brings.
Now a taxi driver will do this shift 5 nights a week without any soilage, so for the odd time an accident occurs don't you think he has been well compensated by the public already?
Just a thought. "
some taxis charge what they want and say, "you to you etc"
personally if i'm on the lash i will have enough money for a black cab and i have never been ill in a taxi or a club |
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"Why not breathalyse people before they get in.
(Sarcasm)
I know of drivers that won't take people if they look pissed up and falling all over the place. Not worth re cleaning bill!!
Obvs not in my case (scroll up^^)
So are Taxi drivers not in the same category as cake makers when it comes to providing a service for the public? How come they are aloud to pick & choose? Seems unfair to me. "
I'm fairly sure you'd be ejected from a bakery sharpish and denied service if you vomited on the counter. |
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"Why not breathalyse people before they get in.
(Sarcasm)
I know of drivers that won't take people if they look pissed up and falling all over the place. Not worth re cleaning bill!!
Obvs not in my case (scroll up^^)
So are Taxi drivers not in the same category as cake makers when it comes to providing a service for the public? How come they are aloud to pick & choose? Seems unfair to me. "
Why is it unfair?
I dont think cake makers have people vomiting or abusing them after a night out on the piss ~ correct me if I'm wrong tho. |
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"But it is not law for you to pay anything. And 65 is very steep if u ask me, I know I am a taxi driver"
I was in a taxi when a friend was sick in it. The taxi driver wanted the £120 fare, and another £80 on top for the sick. He was very abusive about it. |
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"Why not breathalyse people before they get in.
(Sarcasm)
I know of drivers that won't take people if they look pissed up and falling all over the place. Not worth re cleaning bill!!
Obvs not in my case (scroll up^^)
So are Taxi drivers not in the same category as cake makers when it comes to providing a service for the public? How come they are aloud to pick & choose? Seems unfair to me.
Why is it unfair?
I dont think cake makers have people vomiting or abusing them after a night out on the piss ~ correct me if I'm wrong tho."
Maybe you haven't seen the news? but cake makers in NI have been told that they provide a public sevice so they cannot pick and choose who to serve and not serve, so all I'm asking is the rule different for taxi drivers? As I don't know. |
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"Why not breathalyse people before they get in.
(Sarcasm)
I know of drivers that won't take people if they look pissed up and falling all over the place. Not worth re cleaning bill!!
Obvs not in my case (scroll up^^)
So are Taxi drivers not in the same category as cake makers when it comes to providing a service for the public? How come they are aloud to pick & choose? Seems unfair to me.
Why is it unfair?
I dont think cake makers have people vomiting or abusing them after a night out on the piss ~ correct me if I'm wrong tho.
Maybe you haven't seen the news? but cake makers in NI have been told that they provide a public sevice so they cannot pick and choose who to serve and not serve, so all I'm asking is the rule different for taxi drivers? As I don't know. "
Yes but as several people have already pointed out you are not comparing like for like. A shop wouldn't be expected to serve someone that was d*unk or abusive anymore than a taxi driver would. But a taxi driver could never turn someone away based on race or sexuality in the same way as that shop shouldn't have. |
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On the subject of sick bags. I carry these and they can come in quite useful.
One gentleman I picked up from hospital was quite poorly and so I gave him a couple of bags which he filled. When it came to pay his fare he tried to hand me back the puke filled bag. I didn't need to say anything as my look told him what I thought of the idea. |
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By *inzi LTV/TS
over a year ago
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They should think themselves lucky. I used to be a taxi driver and if you were sick in my car on a Saturday night, you'd be looking at s £200 bill. That would be for valeting my car and loss of earnings for the night because when your sick in the car it put the driver out of work for the night. I also wouldn't take pissed females alone or drop off a pissed female last. Taxi drivers are under enough pressure as it is without fuckwits making life any harder.
Motto of the story: If you can't take it, don't drink it and don't even think of calling the police cos I would have done that first. |
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"Why not breathalyse people before they get in.
(Sarcasm)
I know of drivers that won't take people if they look pissed up and falling all over the place. Not worth re cleaning bill!!
Obvs not in my case (scroll up^^)
So are Taxi drivers not in the same category as cake makers when it comes to providing a service for the public? How come they are aloud to pick & choose? Seems unfair to me.
Why is it unfair?
I dont think cake makers have people vomiting or abusing them after a night out on the piss ~ correct me if I'm wrong tho.
Maybe you haven't seen the news? but cake makers in NI have been told that they provide a public sevice so they cannot pick and choose who to serve and not serve, so all I'm asking is the rule different for taxi drivers? As I don't know. "
Just going off topic for a sec. I lived in Hong Kong for a while and it was illegal for taxi drivers to turn down any fare. I had to go to court as a driver refused me at 8 months pregnant with a toddler and lots of shopping to go from Stanley market to Stanley fort as it was a 10 dollar journey and he wanted the big money from tourist going back to Central. |
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In law, the cabbie had no right to detain the fare, however from a civil point of _iew, he had every right to claim from his fare a reasonable amount of money which covers the cost of cleaning his cab and covering his loss of earnings while the cab was off the road.
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