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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The french are out waving placards and causing mayhem re cuts from their government.
We are bieng accused as bieng sheep and rolling over because we will most likey just accept our fate...
Do we march to show that we dont agree or roll over and play dead ???? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not bad is it.
We get the announcement that the retirement age is going up to 66 and barely a murmur.
The French are fighting tooth and nail against a proposal to increase their retirement age to 62.
It just about sums up the state of this shabby nation and the pickle we are in. |
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this country is going to be in one hell of a mess.. people are not going to be able to cope with job cuts, benefit cuts, less housing etc..
Of course the big wigs who make these sensless decisions are on huge wages, make false claims etc.. it makes me sick |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And I must add, a typical working hour week in France is 35 hours. Many people in Blighty are working 50 hour weeks, 60 hour weeks, some even longer still... |
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By *andcCouple
over a year ago
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"And I must add, a typical working hour week in France is 35 hours. Many people in Blighty are working 50 hour weeks, 60 hour weeks, some even longer still..."
If you rate it that much move! |
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The thing is we can never compare ourselves with other country's, we need to get this dam excuse of a country sorted. lol
There has been many times at the hospital i have worked from 7am - 12/1am straight through.. its diabolical they are even considering making cuts especially in the emergency services. this will lead to stressed out staff, who will then go off sick and on sick pay. I cannot see that they are going to achieve anything.
(just my opinion) |
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By *andcCouple
over a year ago
London and Cheshire |
"Not bad is it.
We get the announcement that the retirement age is going up to 66 and barely a murmur.
The French are fighting tooth and nail against a proposal to increase their retirement age to 62.
It just about sums up the state of this shabby nation and the pickle we are in."
It's not that simple if France you could retire at 60, but you didn't get a state pension until you where 65. So the want to add 2 years to both schemes, so you can retire at 62 but you will have to wait til your 67 to get the state pension! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"its diabolical they are even considering making cuts especially in the emergency services. this will lead to stressed out staff, who will then go off sick and on sick pay. I cannot see that they are going to achieve anything.
(just my opinion)"
And so say the:
firemen
policemen
soldiers
civil servants
butchers
bakers
& candlestick makers
... so what do we cut and where? We know some things have to go and the govt can't make people in the private sector redundant as they are not their employers.
What cuts? Where?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"this country is going to be in one hell of a mess.. people are not going to be able to cope with job cuts, benefit cuts, less housing etc..
Of course the big wigs who make these sensless decisions are on huge wages, make false claims etc.. it makes me sick "
be careful, with NHS cuts you may never get better  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It just about sums up the state of this shabby nation and the pickle we are in.
Feel free to fuck off somewhere else if you think it's that shit.  
As a patriotic Brit I accept the bad times as well as the good ones and Santa will be selling condoms in Hell before I ever follow the fucking French into any battle anywhere with anyone. "
Calm your language down pal. It might help your argument hold a little weight.
Not much mind.
Why is it the standard retort of people with no answers "if you don't like it leave"?
Why not think on a bit and make this country a better place.
Clue for you- it doesn't cutting everyhting under the guise of "strategic re_iews".  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well it seems the unions have other ideas and want to strike etc.
Then things will get worse.  "
unlikely to work. no solidarity left these days, it's everyone for themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Its already started.
this from dave prentiss of unison.
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This is a critical week for UNISON with the comprehensive spending re_iew widely expected to deliver a hammer blow to our public services.
At the same time, unions, community groups and supporters will be taking part in demonstrations and rallies across the country to voice their opposition. It is vital that members support local, regional and national events to challenge the government’s no-hope, ideologically driven, agenda of cuts and more cuts.
Public spending cuts will also hit the private sector, with a predicted half a million people losing their jobs. We are all in it together and we must work together to make sure that the union's alternative vision is seen.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its already started.
this from dave prentiss of unison.
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This is a critical week for UNISON with the comprehensive spending re_iew widely expected to deliver a hammer blow to our public services.
At the same time, unions, community groups and supporters will be taking part in demonstrations and rallies across the country to voice their opposition. It is vital that members support local, regional and national events to challenge the government’s no-hope, ideologically driven, agenda of cuts and more cuts.
Public spending cuts will also hit the private sector, with a predicted half a million people losing their jobs. We are all in it together and we must work together to make sure that the union's alternative vision is seen.
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well I am a teacher and to me they have been only noticeable by their absence since the erosion of our service began some 4 years back. Bit late for rallying the peeps now. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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It may be but i do think we tend to lie and down and take it.
Maybe its time for some action if the majority of the country seem to be against what has been proposed.
I have many friends working in health and social care, as i did till march.
They are terrified that their jobs will go and there is sod all they can do about it.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Martin Niemoller said
"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out. "
there are parralles. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Traditionally, we roll over, take whatever shit our rulers shovel us and get on with daily life...
Inexplicably, one day the whole nation collectively gets out of bed the wrong side of bed, and puts the ruling powers to the sword  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Traditionally, we roll over, take whatever shit our rulers shovel us and get on with daily life...
Inexplicably, one day the whole nation collectively gets out of bed the wrong side of bed, and puts the ruling powers to the sword "
So....do we have a date for this ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Im actually a labour voter and always will be.
So having them in again couldnt be much worse.
I think we should have a fab march.
We can complain about the price of condoms and sex toys etc.
"all out" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well we voted 'em in!
And before you say "I didn't", what was the alternative, Labour again?
*Ducks and runs from forthcoming shit storm* "
hey u can hide in the duck house |
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"Traditionally, we roll over, take whatever shit our rulers shovel us and get on with daily life...
Inexplicably, one day the whole nation collectively gets out of bed the wrong side of bed, and puts the ruling powers to the sword
So....do we have a date for this ? "
30th January is a good date for a revolution....(google it  ) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not bad is it.
We get the announcement that the retirement age is going up to 66 and barely a murmur.
The French are fighting tooth and nail against a proposal to increase their retirement age to 62.
It just about sums up the state of this shabby nation and the pickle we are in."
The British often call the French but I wish we had their attitude.
Whenever they get dealt a bum hand,they're all up in arms and stand up for their beliefs,good on 'em!
The best part about it is their shows of solidarity usually make a difference too.
They've never lost that revolutionary state of mind,unlike the Brits,we've been under the cosh so long we just tug our forelocks and mutter into our pints while we get trodden on......again.
If only we had the backbone and spirit of the French we might get dumped on less too......"People Power" and all that!
XXXX |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Im actually a labour voter and always will be.
So having them in again couldnt be much worse.
I think we should have a fab march.
We can complain about the price of condoms and sex toys etc.
"all out" "
does that mean I'm a labour bum? |
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"Not bad is it.
We get the announcement that the retirement age is going up to 66 and barely a murmur.
The French are fighting tooth and nail against a proposal to increase their retirement age to 62.
It just about sums up the state of this shabby nation and the pickle we are in.
The British often call the French but I wish we had their attitude.
Whenever they get dealt a bum hand,they're all up in arms and stand up for their beliefs,good on 'em!
The best part about it is their shows of solidarity usually make a difference too.
They've never lost that revolutionary state of mind,unlike the Brits,we've been under the cosh so long we just tug our forelocks and mutter into our pints while we get trodden on......again.
If only we had the backbone and spirit of the French we might get dumped on less too......"People Power" and all that!
Liberte, Fraternite, Egalite!
XXXX"
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"Not bad is it.
We get the announcement that the retirement age is going up to 66 and barely a murmur.
The French are fighting tooth and nail against a proposal to increase their retirement age to 62.
It just about sums up the state of this shabby nation and the pickle we are in.
The British often call the French but I wish we had their attitude.
Whenever they get dealt a bum hand,they're all up in arms and stand up for their beliefs,good on 'em!
The best part about it is their shows of solidarity usually make a difference too.
They've never lost that revolutionary state of mind,unlike the Brits,we've been under the cosh so long we just tug our forelocks and mutter into our pints while we get trodden on......again.
If only we had the backbone and spirit of the French we might get dumped on less too......"People Power" and all that!
XXXX"
Absolutely right, the French at least have the courage of their convictions to take to the streets and show their dilslike of being shit on.....Good on them! |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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being in the middle of the last "big riot"... as a 16 yr old arsenal fan we were on our way home when we went thru trafalgar square in the middle of the poll tax riot is not the best thing we ever managed to get caught up in....
but i do believe that mass organised action is the way to go.... general strike!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"being in the middle of the last "big riot"... as a 16 yr old arsenal fan we were on our way home when we went thru trafalgar square in the middle of the poll tax riot is not the best thing we ever managed to get caught up in....
but i do believe that mass organised action is the way to go.... general strike!!! "
naaaaa mass orgy more fun |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Im actually a labour voter and always will be.
So having them in again couldnt be much worse.
I think we should have a fab march.
We can complain about the price of condoms and sex toys etc.
"all out" "
We'd better set a date in warmer weather if you're gettin' them "all out" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Martin Niemoller said
"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
None whatsoever!!!!!!
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out. "
there are parralles."
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