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"you may not be so keen if you knew the damage the little fuckers do to trees....not forgetting gardens...shoot and eat"
Lol I did hear about _quirrels before today. Everything has disease and causes destruction in some way. Squirrels are amazingly intelligent, have altruism, and they're cute. |
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"you may not be so keen if you knew the damage the little fuckers do to trees....not forgetting gardens...shoot and eat
Lol I did hear about _quirrels before today. Everything has disease and causes destruction in some way. Squirrels are amazingly intelligent, have altruism, and they're cute. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4489792.stm
"Squirrels have bitten to death a stray dog which was barking at them in a Russian park" |
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I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human |
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human "
3 you x same here, I do everything I can to live a cruelty free life x |
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human "
Unless its a plant, then you'll eat it, maybe boil it, cut it, microwave it, put it over flames etc
I am just messing around and not at all interested in getting all serious here. |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
South West London / Surrey |
"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human "
I'm nicer to my pet rats than I am to some humans.  |
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human
I'm nicer to my pet rats than I am to some humans. "
that's because your pet rats ARE nicer than some humans  rats are lush, I'd love to adopt some rats. |
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human
I'm nicer to my pet rats than I am to some humans. "
I want to go to the karni mata temple in India its great its full of rats people worship them, they come from miles to give them offerings of food, there's millions of the buggers, apparently they believe dead peoples spirits come back as rats so in effect the rats are their dead loved ones and they worship and look after them
I'd love to go |
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"Eating _quirrels = eating (diseased) tree kittens. Yuck-a-fi. I'll stick to hummus.
Humans  oh sorry hummus
I am perfectly happy eating consenting human meat, Neil can vouch for that  "
We know we've seen the pics  |
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human
I'm nicer to my pet rats than I am to some humans.
I want to go to the karni mata temple in India its great its full of rats people worship them, they come from miles to give them offerings of food, there's millions of the buggers, apparently they believe dead peoples spirits come back as rats so in effect the rats are their dead loved ones and they worship and look after them
I'd love to go"
Yep bunny island is another place I'd visit. There's a couple of places that are famous for their their massive cat population but unfortunately abuse is rife. Only place I really don't fancy is monkey city in Thailand, those guys look super scary and aggressive. Lots of cultures have huge respect for animals. |
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human
I'm nicer to my pet rats than I am to some humans.
I want to go to the karni mata temple in India its great its full of rats people worship them, they come from miles to give them offerings of food, there's millions of the buggers, apparently they believe dead peoples spirits come back as rats so in effect the rats are their dead loved ones and they worship and look after them
I'd love to go
Yep bunny island is another place I'd visit. There's a couple of places that are famous for their their massive cat population but unfortunately abuse is rife. Only place I really don't fancy is monkey city in Thailand, those guys look super scary and aggressive. Lots of cultures have huge respect for animals."
Unfortunately ours isn't one of them
I just think it would be great to live in a world where we all co existed, I'm awear that animals eat animals its not that I have an issue with, when you see these hunter gathers tribes living off the land, hunting for food I see that as no different to a lion killing its prey, but these people still respect the land and the animals they hunt, they take what they need and never take anymore, where as countries like ours just mass produce meat and kill more than is ever eaten, so much is throws away, that I have a problem with |
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I've been a hunter all my life.
I'm also heavily involved in a lot of wildlife conservation projects.
My golden rule has always been 'if you're gonna shoot it, you're gonna eat it'. |
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"I've been a hunter all my life.
I'm also heavily involved in a lot of wildlife conservation projects.
My golden rule has always been 'if you're gonna shoot it, you're gonna eat it'."
So just out of interest do you shoot to eat or do you shoot for fun but eat the product? |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human
I'm nicer to my pet rats than I am to some humans.
I want to go to the karni mata temple in India its great its full of rats people worship them, they come from miles to give them offerings of food, there's millions of the buggers, apparently they believe dead peoples spirits come back as rats so in effect the rats are their dead loved ones and they worship and look after them
I'd love to go"
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"I've been a hunter all my life.
I'm also heavily involved in a lot of wildlife conservation projects.
My golden rule has always been 'if you're gonna shoot it, you're gonna eat it'.
So just out of interest do you shoot to eat or do you shoot for fun but eat the product?"
It's a mix of the two really.
I enjoy hunting but I will only shoot what I'm going to eat.
If my fridge/freezer is full I don't go hunting I'll target shoot instead. |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human
I'm nicer to my pet rats than I am to some humans. that's because your pet rats ARE nicer than some humans rats are lush, I'd love to adopt some rats. "
Very true..
Currently have 2 at present, would like more but I'm too nervous about introducing new ones into the cage. |
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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago
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"I've been a hunter all my life.
I'm also heavily involved in a lot of wildlife conservation projects.
My golden rule has always been 'if you're gonna shoot it, you're gonna eat it'.
So just out of interest do you shoot to eat or do you shoot for fun but eat the product?"
i have never shot a pussy , but i have eaten a few .  |
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By *ricerMan
over a year ago
Stockton-on-Tees |
"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human
I'm nicer to my pet rats than I am to some humans. that's because your pet rats ARE nicer than some humans rats are lush, I'd love to adopt some rats.
Very true..
Currently have 2 at present, would like more but I'm too nervous about introducing new ones into the cage. "
My sister has 11 rats at the moment, she gets new ones when one passes into ratty heaven. She introduces then straight away, no problems - hers are all males -lady rats may be different!! |
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Tell that to the copper that was attacked by one. He was manning the front desk minding his own business, when in comes a _quirrel approaches him and bites the copper on the hand.
Not sure if they have found the offending _quirrel, but I know there is a wanted poster about him. |
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"Tell that to the copper that was attacked by one. He was manning the front desk minding his own business, when in comes a _quirrel approaches him and bites the copper on the hand.
Not sure if they have found the offending _quirrel, but I know there is a wanted poster about him."
honestly, if that doesn't make you love _quirrels, nothing will. What EPIC balls on the little bugger, like me going up to an elephant with pepper spray |
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I liked the way the people of Manchester and further afield all stepped in to help that dogs home and the dogs when the place went up in flames. Its not the full picture but it reminds me how we area nation who loves its animals |
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We've got loads of _quirrels by us. I love them, our flat is surrounded by trees and I'm never going to tire of watching them.
I don't like the sudden anti-_quirrel sentiments being expressed on these forums! |
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"Another thread following on from the 'gun' one, any animal lovers on here? Veggies and vegans? "
My bitchasshoe of a love....you better have done my bloody ironing by the time i get home otherwise the belt is coming off! |
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Love animals.....well,most them.
Love eating some of them as well....
But the next time I bump into a _quirrel in a back ally I ain't taking no prisoners......be shooting first n then eating _quirrel kebabs |
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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago
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I am vegetarian but married to a meatysaurus
I love animals and will go out of my way to help them any way I can. My OH has stripped naked and swam in the canal before now to rescue a swan tangled in fishing line because the RSPCA and RSPB were too busy to come help us - one of many acts of kindness he has done for animals who he actually gets on better with than he does humans  |
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Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
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"Another thread following on from the 'gun' one, any animal lovers on here? Veggies and vegans?
My bitchasshoe of a love....you better have done my bloody ironing by the time i get home otherwise the belt is coming off!"
Oooh, threats of violence  looks like I'm doing fuck-all ironing then |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
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I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers  |
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"Another thread following on from the 'gun' one, any animal lovers on here? Veggies and vegans?
My bitchasshoe of a love....you better have done my bloody ironing by the time i get home otherwise the belt is coming off!
Oooh, threats of violence looks like I'm doing fuck-all ironing then "
You do realise you look like your talking to yourself |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers "
It's not just fun. It's about putting good food on the table essentially for free.
The examples you listed are barbaric forms of cruel entertainment and any decent hunter would be upset to be considered part of that group.
Thinning of numbers of animals has many benefits, there's less inbreeding, they're not starving to death because there's not enough food and they're not forced into urban areas. There's a lot of breeding and conservation groups that are funded and sponsored by hunters all over the world.
Also hunters don't always come home with a kill, ask an abattoir worker how many got away after he's been to work for a day.. |
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"Another thread following on from the 'gun' one, any animal lovers on here? Veggies and vegans?
My bitchasshoe of a love....you better have done my bloody ironing by the time i get home otherwise the belt is coming off!
Oooh, threats of violence looks like I'm doing fuck-all ironing then
You do realise you look like your talking to yourself "
I always talk to myself we have discussed signing off with our names, but it's too fun being confusing  |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
It's not just fun. It's about putting good food on the table essentially for free.
The examples you listed are barbaric forms of cruel entertainment and any decent hunter would be upset to be considered part of that group.
Thinning of numbers of animals has many benefits, there's less inbreeding, they're not starving to death because there's not enough food and they're not forced into urban areas. There's a lot of breeding and conservation groups that are funded and sponsored by hunters all over the world.
Also hunters don't always come home with a kill, ask an abattoir worker how many got away after he's been to work for a day.. "
the majority of nature thrives because of the lack of human involvement, I think it's awful people think that it's up to them the population of another species. They get forced into urban areas by human overpopulation and paving over everything and monoculture causes starvation. To blame and kill animals for the problems caused exclusively by humans isn't animal husbandry. Lots of hunters don't come home with a kill - instead shot animals die elsewhere. I'm trying not to be hostile but any argument that implies killing an animal for its own good, other than genuine euthanasia, is fundamentally flawed, especially if you can't apply it to a human population that is very, very overgrown. |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers "
I wasn't actually accusing anyone, I was just commenting.
It's a difficult one to explain, I enjoy hunting and get satisfaction from a clean humane kill, however I would not say I hunt for fun.
I don't get out nearly as often as I would like. I hunt for two reasons one is preventing damage to property and livestock. So that's rabbits, _quirrels,corvids and wood pigeons.
The second reason is pest/disease control. So rats and feral pigeons...
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
It's not just fun. It's about putting good food on the table essentially for free.
The examples you listed are barbaric forms of cruel entertainment and any decent hunter would be upset to be considered part of that group.
Thinning of numbers of animals has many benefits, there's less inbreeding, they're not starving to death because there's not enough food and they're not forced into urban areas. There's a lot of breeding and conservation groups that are funded and sponsored by hunters all over the world.
Also hunters don't always come home with a kill, ask an abattoir worker how many got away after he's been to work for a day.. the majority of nature thrives because of the lack of human involvement, I think it's awful people think that it's up to them the population of another species. They get forced into urban areas by human overpopulation and paving over everything and monoculture causes starvation. To blame and kill animals for the problems caused exclusively by humans isn't animal husbandry. Lots of hunters don't come home with a kill - instead shot animals die elsewhere. I'm trying not to be hostile but any argument that implies killing an animal for its own good, other than genuine euthanasia, is fundamentally flawed, especially if you can't apply it to a human population that is very, very overgrown. "
Can I just say I love you, seriously I'm not taking the piss, you are just me only in a much smaller body |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
I wasn't actually accusing anyone, I was just commenting.
It's a difficult one to explain, I enjoy hunting and get satisfaction from a clean humane kill, however I would not say I hunt for fun.
I don't get out nearly as often as I would like. I hunt for two reasons one is preventing damage to property and livestock. So that's rabbits, _quirrels,corvids and wood pigeons.
The second reason is pest/disease control. So rats and feral pigeons...
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So that next time some thieving twat pinches my bike can I shoot him and call it pest control |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
It's not just fun. It's about putting good food on the table essentially for free.
The examples you listed are barbaric forms of cruel entertainment and any decent hunter would be upset to be considered part of that group.
Thinning of numbers of animals has many benefits, there's less inbreeding, they're not starving to death because there's not enough food and they're not forced into urban areas. There's a lot of breeding and conservation groups that are funded and sponsored by hunters all over the world.
Also hunters don't always come home with a kill, ask an abattoir worker how many got away after he's been to work for a day.. the majority of nature thrives because of the lack of human involvement, I think it's awful people think that it's up to them the population of another species. They get forced into urban areas by human overpopulation and paving over everything and monoculture causes starvation. To blame and kill animals for the problems caused exclusively by humans isn't animal husbandry. Lots of hunters don't come home with a kill - instead shot animals die elsewhere. I'm trying not to be hostile but any argument that implies killing an animal for its own good, other than genuine euthanasia, is fundamentally flawed, especially if you can't apply it to a human population that is very, very overgrown. "
I actually agree with you in a lot of ways, there are too many humans and way too much farming of livestock which has an impact on native wildlife.
Your point about animals being left to die elsewhere I'd disagree with though. People that do that are not hunters in the true sense. They're not even trophy hunters (which I find abhorrent), they're little more than thugs with a gun licence. |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
I wasn't actually accusing anyone, I was just commenting.
It's a difficult one to explain, I enjoy hunting and get satisfaction from a clean humane kill, however I would not say I hunt for fun.
I don't get out nearly as often as I would like. I hunt for two reasons one is preventing damage to property and livestock. So that's rabbits, _quirrels,corvids and wood pigeons.
The second reason is pest/disease control. So rats and feral pigeons...
So that next time some thieving twat pinches my bike can I shoot him and call it pest control "
Yes, I'll lend you my gun. |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
I wasn't actually accusing anyone, I was just commenting.
It's a difficult one to explain, I enjoy hunting and get satisfaction from a clean humane kill, however I would not say I hunt for fun.
I don't get out nearly as often as I would like. I hunt for two reasons one is preventing damage to property and livestock. So that's rabbits, _quirrels,corvids and wood pigeons.
The second reason is pest/disease control. So rats and feral pigeons...
So that next time some thieving twat pinches my bike can I shoot him and call it pest control
Yes, I'll lend you my gun. "
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human
I'm nicer to my pet rats than I am to some humans. that's because your pet rats ARE nicer than some humans rats are lush, I'd love to adopt some rats.
Very true..
Currently have 2 at present, would like more but I'm too nervous about introducing new ones into the cage.
My sister has 11 rats at the moment, she gets new ones when one passes into ratty heaven. She introduces then straight away, no problems - hers are all males -lady rats may be different!! "
Does the Death of Rats turn up to take them to rat heaven? |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
It's not just fun. It's about putting good food on the table essentially for free.
The examples you listed are barbaric forms of cruel entertainment and any decent hunter would be upset to be considered part of that group.
Thinning of numbers of animals has many benefits, there's less inbreeding, they're not starving to death because there's not enough food and they're not forced into urban areas. There's a lot of breeding and conservation groups that are funded and sponsored by hunters all over the world.
Also hunters don't always come home with a kill, ask an abattoir worker how many got away after he's been to work for a day.. the majority of nature thrives because of the lack of human involvement, I think it's awful people think that it's up to them the population of another species. They get forced into urban areas by human overpopulation and paving over everything and monoculture causes starvation. To blame and kill animals for the problems caused exclusively by humans isn't animal husbandry. Lots of hunters don't come home with a kill - instead shot animals die elsewhere. I'm trying not to be hostile but any argument that implies killing an animal for its own good, other than genuine euthanasia, is fundamentally flawed, especially if you can't apply it to a human population that is very, very overgrown.
I actually agree with you in a lot of ways, there are too many humans and way too much farming of livestock which has an impact on native wildlife.
Your point about animals being left to die elsewhere I'd disagree with though. People that do that are not hunters in the true sense. They're not even trophy hunters (which I find abhorrent), they're little more than thugs with a gun licence."
I'm not suggesting it's done just to kill (although dhit loads of people do exactly this) - I mean hunters shoot an animal they intend to eat, the animal suffers a terminal shot but escapes the hunter. Deer do it, birds do it. Badgers too, but they aren't hunted for food. Especially anything shot with a scope which means there is a fair bit of distance between the hunter and the victim. |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
It's not just fun. It's about putting good food on the table essentially for free.
The examples you listed are barbaric forms of cruel entertainment and any decent hunter would be upset to be considered part of that group.
Thinning of numbers of animals has many benefits, there's less inbreeding, they're not starving to death because there's not enough food and they're not forced into urban areas. There's a lot of breeding and conservation groups that are funded and sponsored by hunters all over the world.
Also hunters don't always come home with a kill, ask an abattoir worker how many got away after he's been to work for a day.. the majority of nature thrives because of the lack of human involvement, I think it's awful people think that it's up to them the population of another species. They get forced into urban areas by human overpopulation and paving over everything and monoculture causes starvation. To blame and kill animals for the problems caused exclusively by humans isn't animal husbandry. Lots of hunters don't come home with a kill - instead shot animals die elsewhere. I'm trying not to be hostile but any argument that implies killing an animal for its own good, other than genuine euthanasia, is fundamentally flawed, especially if you can't apply it to a human population that is very, very overgrown.
Can I just say I love you, seriously I'm not taking the piss, you are just me only in a much smaller body "
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
It's not just fun. It's about putting good food on the table essentially for free.
The examples you listed are barbaric forms of cruel entertainment and any decent hunter would be upset to be considered part of that group.
Thinning of numbers of animals has many benefits, there's less inbreeding, they're not starving to death because there's not enough food and they're not forced into urban areas. There's a lot of breeding and conservation groups that are funded and sponsored by hunters all over the world.
Also hunters don't always come home with a kill, ask an abattoir worker how many got away after he's been to work for a day.. the majority of nature thrives because of the lack of human involvement, I think it's awful people think that it's up to them the population of another species. They get forced into urban areas by human overpopulation and paving over everything and monoculture causes starvation. To blame and kill animals for the problems caused exclusively by humans isn't animal husbandry. Lots of hunters don't come home with a kill - instead shot animals die elsewhere. I'm trying not to be hostile but any argument that implies killing an animal for its own good, other than genuine euthanasia, is fundamentally flawed, especially if you can't apply it to a human population that is very, very overgrown.
I actually agree with you in a lot of ways, there are too many humans and way too much farming of livestock which has an impact on native wildlife.
Your point about animals being left to die elsewhere I'd disagree with though. People that do that are not hunters in the true sense. They're not even trophy hunters (which I find abhorrent), they're little more than thugs with a gun licence. I'm not suggesting it's done just to kill (although dhit loads of people do exactly this) - I mean hunters shoot an animal they intend to eat, the animal suffers a terminal shot but escapes the hunter. Deer do it, birds do it. Badgers too, but they aren't hunted for food. Especially anything shot with a scope which means there is a fair bit of distance between the hunter and the victim. "
True, some deer will run when shot, I had it happen to me once which surprised the Shit out of me because I hit it with a .338!
A true hunter will track it, they don't run far. If small game runs/flies then the hunter needs to reassess his tools and methods. |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
It's not just fun. It's about putting good food on the table essentially for free.
The examples you listed are barbaric forms of cruel entertainment and any decent hunter would be upset to be considered part of that group.
Thinning of numbers of animals has many benefits, there's less inbreeding, they're not starving to death because there's not enough food and they're not forced into urban areas. There's a lot of breeding and conservation groups that are funded and sponsored by hunters all over the world.
Also hunters don't always come home with a kill, ask an abattoir worker how many got away after he's been to work for a day.. the majority of nature thrives because of the lack of human involvement, I think it's awful people think that it's up to them the population of another species. They get forced into urban areas by human overpopulation and paving over everything and monoculture causes starvation. To blame and kill animals for the problems caused exclusively by humans isn't animal husbandry. Lots of hunters don't come home with a kill - instead shot animals die elsewhere. I'm trying not to be hostile but any argument that implies killing an animal for its own good, other than genuine euthanasia, is fundamentally flawed, especially if you can't apply it to a human population that is very, very overgrown.
Can I just say I love you, seriously I'm not taking the piss, you are just me only in a much smaller body
*sobbing* I thought all swingers ate animals! I came here for sex, but I found a sister! Xxxx "
You should muff each other cause you're not real sisters..i can watch for a bit,and then join in 
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Shooting animals is easy, anyone can do it! Shooting some animals that don't stop so quick with a gun like grizzly bears is a bit trickier!. Shooting people who are shooting back at you is trickier still!
real hunters kill lions with fucking sharp sticks.
Posting in the right thread is even trickier |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human
I'm nicer to my pet rats than I am to some humans. that's because your pet rats ARE nicer than some humans rats are lush, I'd love to adopt some rats.
Very true..
Currently have 2 at present, would like more but I'm too nervous about introducing new ones into the cage.
My sister has 11 rats at the moment, she gets new ones when one passes into ratty heaven. She introduces then straight away, no problems - hers are all males -lady rats may be different!! "
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
It's not just fun. It's about putting good food on the table essentially for free.
The examples you listed are barbaric forms of cruel entertainment and any decent hunter would be upset to be considered part of that group.
Thinning of numbers of animals has many benefits, there's less inbreeding, they're not starving to death because there's not enough food and they're not forced into urban areas. There's a lot of breeding and conservation groups that are funded and sponsored by hunters all over the world.
Also hunters don't always come home with a kill, ask an abattoir worker how many got away after he's been to work for a day.. the majority of nature thrives because of the lack of human involvement, I think it's awful people think that it's up to them the population of another species. They get forced into urban areas by human overpopulation and paving over everything and monoculture causes starvation. To blame and kill animals for the problems caused exclusively by humans isn't animal husbandry. Lots of hunters don't come home with a kill - instead shot animals die elsewhere. I'm trying not to be hostile but any argument that implies killing an animal for its own good, other than genuine euthanasia, is fundamentally flawed, especially if you can't apply it to a human population that is very, very overgrown.
Can I just say I love you, seriously I'm not taking the piss, you are just me only in a much smaller body
*sobbing* I thought all swingers ate animals! I came here for sex, but I found a sister! Xxxx
You should muff each other cause you're not real sisters..i can watch for a bit,and then join in
I don't mind"
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By (user no longer on site)
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I (christina) am an animal loving veggie!! I was disgusted in the _quirrel thread  i own pets and volunteer with animal charities regularly. How anyone could harm an animal is beyond me. We have frequent visits from _quirrels in our garden and would NEVER hurt them, so bloody cruel, they may do a bit of damage but we are caring and compassionate, you would need to be a total sicko to even consider harming one. This may be a bit controversial but hey-ho |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers "
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By (user no longer on site)
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taken lotsa _quirrel pics...still to get a red one though..
regardless of the 'pest'-
fucking HATE people that cannot understand or care to understand that we share this earth with other creatures..even those we dont share much emotion with such as insects.
fair enough there has to be control to keep us safe too..but vilifying animals is one of the most selfish TWATTISH things I normally hear.
and yes..I like eating meat, hopefully thats been killed in the most humane manner possible. |
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"Little fuckers have had it around here.
Traps set and now just a waiting game. "
sniff sniff..checks coast is clear.. cool! who left this pile of nuts just lying around..think i'll just have one.. hang on...what's th......
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Anyone now if you can BBQ them.?
Heard they taste really nice and what with Bank Hols coming up could be something to try, plus at least I know their be fresh. |
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we have them dont cause us any bother - when we used to have the bunny she used to charge as far as her run would allow and give her biggest thumper style stomp and scare them off  |
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"Believe it or not but a lot of hunters and meat eaters do a lot of work in animal welfare and conservation.
BASC and it's members spend a lot of time and money on conservation.
It does gripe me when people bash hunters and claim to be in to conservation but actually do nothing in real terms...
I know not all people are like this but a lot are...
I don't bash anybody I just don't understand how somebody who kills animals for fun can claim to be an animal lover
I know not everybody sees things like I do but it just seems a contradiction to me
I see hunting as no different to dog fighting, badger bating, cock fighting, fox hunting and even fishing its harming/killing a life for human entertainment how can people who do such things be animal lovers
It's not just fun. It's about putting good food on the table essentially for free.
The examples you listed are barbaric forms of cruel entertainment and any decent hunter would be upset to be considered part of that group.
Thinning of numbers of animals has many benefits, there's less inbreeding, they're not starving to death because there's not enough food and they're not forced into urban areas. There's a lot of breeding and conservation groups that are funded and sponsored by hunters all over the world.
Also hunters don't always come home with a kill, ask an abattoir worker how many got away after he's been to work for a day.. the majority of nature thrives because of the lack of human involvement, I think it's awful people think that it's up to them the population of another species. They get forced into urban areas by human overpopulation and paving over everything and monoculture causes starvation. To blame and kill animals for the problems caused exclusively by humans isn't animal husbandry. Lots of hunters don't come home with a kill - instead shot animals die elsewhere. I'm trying not to be hostile but any argument that implies killing an animal for its own good, other than genuine euthanasia, is fundamentally flawed, especially if you can't apply it to a human population that is very, very overgrown.
I actually agree with you in a lot of ways, there are too many humans and way too much farming of livestock which has an impact on native wildlife.
Your point about animals being left to die elsewhere I'd disagree with though. People that do that are not hunters in the true sense. They're not even trophy hunters (which I find abhorrent), they're little more than thugs with a gun licence."
Of course there are too many humans.
Except for me..and my family..friends...quite like neighbours...hot guys on fab....most work colleagues........
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By *quirrelMan
over a year ago
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As a non-native invasive species the grey _quirrel is regarded as a pest.
It is perfectly legal to trap, humanely kill and eat them.
If you trap them but then feel sorry for them afterwards and release them back into the wild you are breaking the law, it's an offence to release a non-native species of animal into the wild.
If you kill them it has to be done humanely, you can also be prosecuted for animal cruelty if they suffer in the process. |
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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago
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"Anyone now if you can BBQ them.?
Heard they taste really nice and what with Bank Hols coming up could be something to try, plus at least I know their be fresh. "
you can cook them any way tou want , there nice with chips . |
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication
I truely believe all life is equal from a rat to a human "
Just to point out you do use stuff that's experimented on them.
All cosmetics sold in the uk have to be tested on animals for at for instance now before say "but body shop!!!" They simply combine already tested ingredients so their "product" has not been tested on animals but every ingredient in it has.
Same goes for nearly all medication it will have been used on dozens of studies on dozens of animals.
If you believe all life is equal would you take medication to rid yourself of say a tape worm? |
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"I've been a veggie since I was 14, I love animals, I don't eat them, wear them or use anything that's been experimented on them and that includes medication"
How have you got round the LD/CD 50 tests that all ingredients in products for human use have to pass to be sold in this country? |
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