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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Why do people go on strike bout pay rise they should be happy have in a job if I was itv or nhs or railway bosses I'd sack them all and go get people from job centre who would love to work grow up u dickheads at leat u have a wage |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I work in the nhs,not had a pay rise in four years,working longer hours sometimes not getting a break in a 12hr shift,pension went up 3% which we won't get back,so i must be a dickhead. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do people go on strike bout pay rise they should be happy have in a job if I was itv or nhs or railway bosses I'd sack them all and go get people from job centre who would love to work grow up u dickheads at leat u have a wage"
Have you considered the implications for working people if your suggestion was implemented? |
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I would never be aggressive to anyone... But actually, I don't agree with striking.
Many people that also 'deserve' pay rises do not have the option to strike... So why should some national services and teachers feel they should be allowed to?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've read The road to Nab end which illustrates the past need of unions, and fully agree at one point there was a dire need for this, not sure how relevant these are today though. The company I work for has not had any real pay rise for 5 years, I'm only better off because I have worked hard and got 3 promotions in this time. I stay because I love my job, I live within my means so monetary reward whilst nice plays no huge part for me. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"U have a job be fuckin greatful if Yh not happy leave"
and folk like you are the reason so many are having to take poorly paid long hours . If your happy being a slave to your job them crack on me am happy in a decent job with descent pay descent hours and descent conditions that my union fought hard to get and keep work to live not live to work
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Only a complete tosser would come out with crap like that. Maybe I should also doff my cap to the Squire for allowing me to plough his field for his profit!
I don't suppose you voted Conservative by any chance?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Only a complete tosser would come out with crap like that. Maybe I should also doff my cap to the Squire for allowing me to plough his field for his profit!
I don't suppose you voted Conservative by any chance??"
I don't suppose he voted at all  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I could say something about not having a rise this year and actually earning 30% less than last year, having less rights than before. Worse working conditions and upholding my civil rights but the OP seems to have all that covered. I would like to ask the OP is English Teachers are rewarded enough for their efforts? |
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"I could say something about not having a rise this year and actually earning 30% less than last year, having less rights than before. Worse working conditions and upholding my civil rights but the OP seems to have all that covered. I would like to ask the OP is English Teachers are rewarded enough for their efforts?"
I like you, and I really like a lot of your posts. But I'm not so secretly sniggering at the irony of the mistake in your last sentence... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do people go on strike bout pay rise they should be happy have in a job if I was itv or nhs or railway bosses I'd sack them all and go get people from job centre who would love to work grow up u dickheads at leat u have a wage"
You have the right to remain silent you know  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We could learn a lot from how unions and management work hand in glove in Germany.
Workers should have the right to withdraw their labour as the ultimate sanction in a dispute. I do however agree that in order to take this serious step, at least 50% of the membership should vote, abd 50% of those should vote in favour. |
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"Why do people go on strike bout pay rise they should be happy have in a job if I was itv or nhs or railway bosses I'd sack them all and go get people from job centre who would love to work grow up u dickheads at leat u have a wage"
There speaks the voice of a caring Tory voter |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"We could learn a lot from how unions and management work hand in glove in Germany.
Workers should have the right to withdraw their labour as the ultimate sanction in a dispute. I do however agree that in order to take this serious step, at least 50% of the membership should vote, abd 50% of those should vote in favour."
in the case of the current. RMT dispute 60% of those who voted agreed with industrial action upto and including strike |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why didn't the MPs have to strike for their £7,000 rise? That's what i'd be asking personally.
Doubt anyone signs up for a job for long hours and low pay, they get a job to exist in a stupid system that hardly values anyone's time and effort. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Only a complete tosser would come out with crap like that. Maybe I should also doff my cap to the Squire for allowing me to plough his field for his profit!
I don't suppose you voted Conservative by any chance??"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We could learn a lot from how unions and management work hand in glove in Germany.
Workers should have the right to withdraw their labour as the ultimate sanction in a dispute. I do however agree that in order to take this serious step, at least 50% of the membership should vote, abd 50% of those should vote in favour.in the case of the current. RMT dispute 60% of those who voted agreed with industrial action upto and including strike "
But what % of RMT members actually voted? I question the legitimacy of action when very few members actually turn out to vote. Fine if you want to withdraw your labour, but particularly in the public sector, if you are going to do that, for it to be legal there should be a reasonable threshold in terms of the % who actually vote. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I could say something about not having a rise this year and actually earning 30% less than last year, having less rights than before. Worse working conditions and upholding my civil rights but the OP seems to have all that covered. I would like to ask the OP is English Teachers are rewarded enough for their efforts?
I like you, and I really like a lot of your posts. But I'm not so secretly sniggering at the irony of the mistake in your last sentence... "
the post of proofreader is up for grabs. The pay is crap (in line with this thread) but the perks are amazing! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"We could learn a lot from how unions and management work hand in glove in Germany.
Workers should have the right to withdraw their labour as the ultimate sanction in a dispute. I do however agree that in order to take this serious step, at least 50% of the membership should vote, abd 50% of those should vote in favour.in the case of the current. RMT dispute 60% of those who voted agreed with industrial action upto and including strike
But what % of RMT members actually voted? I question the legitimacy of action when very few members actually turn out to vote. Fine if you want to withdraw your labour, but particularly in the public sector, if you are going to do that, for it to be legal there should be a reasonable threshold in terms of the % who actually vote."
How would you then defend that argument on our election of a government? We accept the majority on 30% turnout in local elections, some areas of the general in the past, for the Police and Crime Commissioners. I could go on but you see the point.
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"I could say something about not having a rise this year and actually earning 30% less than last year, having less rights than before. Worse working conditions and upholding my civil rights but the OP seems to have all that covered. I would like to ask the OP is English Teachers are rewarded enough for their efforts?
I like you, and I really like a lot of your posts. But I'm not so secretly sniggering at the irony of the mistake in your last sentence... the post of proofreader is up for grabs. The pay is crap (in line with this thread) but the perks are amazing! "
I am actually qualified for this... But what are the perks?!  |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"We could learn a lot from how unions and management work hand in glove in Germany.
Workers should have the right to withdraw their labour as the ultimate sanction in a dispute. I do however agree that in order to take this serious step, at least 50% of the membership should vote, abd 50% of those should vote in favour.in the case of the current. RMT dispute 60% of those who voted agreed with industrial action upto and including strike
But what % of RMT members actually voted? I question the legitimacy of action when very few members actually turn out to vote. Fine if you want to withdraw your labour, but particularly in the public sector, if you are going to do that, for it to be legal there should be a reasonable threshold in terms of the % who actually vote."
how many voted in last weeks election and of those how many voted for the govt ? Sause for the goose is sause for the gander |
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By *bfoxxxMan
over a year ago
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We can all be grateful that we have a job.
I am so glad I am being exploited,
working all hours,
No holidays,
No sick pay,
No contract,
dangerous conditions,
No health and safety,
No pension,
unsafe practices,
and all for a pittance.
Thank-you boss man.
Stick a brush up my arse and I'll sweep the stairs too. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"We can all be grateful that we have a job.
I am so glad I am being exploited,
working all hours,
No holidays,
No sick pay,
No contract,
dangerous conditions,
No health and safety,
No pension,
unsafe practices,
and all for a pittance.
Thank-you boss man.
Stick a brush up my arse and I'll sweep the stairs too."
I'm adding a feather duster to the top of your head for your impudence. Get back to work.
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"We can all be grateful that we have a job.
I am so glad I am being exploited,
working all hours,
No holidays,
No sick pay,
No contract,
dangerous conditions,
No health and safety,
No pension,
unsafe practices,
and all for a pittance.
Thank-you boss man.
Stick a brush up my arse and I'll sweep the stairs too."
This is what I mean. I bet if you decided to strike, you wouldn't have a job to go back to.
It's highly unfair that it's seen fit for some to strike and still have their job, and not others. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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This is what I mean. I bet if you decided to strike, you wouldn't have a job to go back to.
It's highly unfair that it's seen fit for some to strike and still have their job, and not others. "
It is possible for people to unionise or to form for collective action. THAT hasn't been outlawed yet. The fact is that people have chosen not to and now think it's unfair that those who continue with collective negotiation and action get results.
You still have the right to strike, just. You have the right to withdraw your labour - even on your own. It's just stronger if you do it with others.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"It is unfair some can strike and some cannot,but to call people dickheads for wanting to stand up for themselves is a bit harsh."
Nearly everyone in work CAN strike/withdraw labour but it's not usually very effective if you do it on your own.
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This is what I mean. I bet if you decided to strike, you wouldn't have a job to go back to.
It's highly unfair that it's seen fit for some to strike and still have their job, and not others.
It is possible for people to unionise or to form for collective action. THAT hasn't been outlawed yet. The fact is that people have chosen not to and now think it's unfair that those who continue with collective negotiation and action get results.
You still have the right to strike, just. You have the right to withdraw your labour - even on your own. It's just stronger if you do it with others.
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Sorry, just to confirm what you're saying, somebody in the Armed Forces could create a union, and go on strike? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do people go on strike bout pay rise they should be happy have in a job if I was itv or nhs or railway bosses I'd sack them all and go get people from job centre who would love to work grow up u dickheads at leat u have a wage"
They just fancy a few days off. Nothing like a beer garden on a hot day. Beats fecking working. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Many years ago in the seventies , I left school , had a child at just 16 and got a job working nights in a bakery . This afforded me the opportunity to raise him and get married . Within 3 months of starting a strike was called . I voted no , was asked if I was willing to work and said yes .
The management went round with myself and 2 others who didn't strike , doing 4 hour shifts in different bakeries in different towns . We had to keep moving as we were threatened with violence , and indeed got beaten up twice , but still carried on .
So since then I couldn't join a union even if I wanted to . And I certainly wouldn't want to .
I was rewarded with a massive promotion , huge pay rise and bought my first home at 20 thanks to Thatchers offer to buy your council house at a reduced price .
So yes I am a Tory , can't abide unions and strikes , and the above outlines why .
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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This is what I mean. I bet if you decided to strike, you wouldn't have a job to go back to.
It's highly unfair that it's seen fit for some to strike and still have their job, and not others.
It is possible for people to unionise or to form for collective action. THAT hasn't been outlawed yet. The fact is that people have chosen not to and now think it's unfair that those who continue with collective negotiation and action get results.
You still have the right to strike, just. You have the right to withdraw your labour - even on your own. It's just stronger if you do it with others.
Sorry, just to confirm what you're saying, somebody in the Armed Forces could create a union, and go on strike? "
There are some that aren't allowed to strike but the majority of us can. Until that right has been removed over the next five years.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We could learn a lot from how unions and management work hand in glove in Germany.
Workers should have the right to withdraw their labour as the ultimate sanction in a dispute. I do however agree that in order to take this serious step, at least 50% of the membership should vote, abd 50% of those should vote in favour.in the case of the current. RMT dispute 60% of those who voted agreed with industrial action upto and including strike
But what % of RMT members actually voted? I question the legitimacy of action when very few members actually turn out to vote. Fine if you want to withdraw your labour, but particularly in the public sector, if you are going to do that, for it to be legal there should be a reasonable threshold in terms of the % who actually vote.
How would you then defend that argument on our election of a government? We accept the majority on 30% turnout in local elections, some areas of the general in the past, for the Police and Crime Commissioners. I could go on but you see the point.
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It is a really good point. I would say that a strike in the public sector has a negative impact on a lot of people, which is why I would set a threshold. I would argue that if the union feels that it has to use its weapon of last resort, it should mobilise its membership to vote. I would also suggest that a threshold would give more legitimacy to the action with the public at large who are impacted.
With voting in general elections etc, part of your democratic right is to choose not to vote. The outcome may then not be what you choose, but it is not an explicitly negative impact which results (although I accept depending on some political persuasions it could be seen that way).
I guess in a long winded way I'm differentiating between negative and positive outcomes if that makes sense. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"We could learn a lot from how unions and management work hand in glove in Germany.
Workers should have the right to withdraw their labour as the ultimate sanction in a dispute. I do however agree that in order to take this serious step, at least 50% of the membership should vote, abd 50% of those should vote in favour.in the case of the current. RMT dispute 60% of those who voted agreed with industrial action upto and including strike
But what % of RMT members actually voted? I question the legitimacy of action when very few members actually turn out to vote. Fine if you want to withdraw your labour, but particularly in the public sector, if you are going to do that, for it to be legal there should be a reasonable threshold in terms of the % who actually vote.
How would you then defend that argument on our election of a government? We accept the majority on 30% turnout in local elections, some areas of the general in the past, for the Police and Crime Commissioners. I could go on but you see the point.
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It is a really good point. I would say that a strike in the public sector has a negative impact on a lot of people, which is why I would set a threshold. I would argue that if the union feels that it has to use its weapon of last resort, it should mobilise its membership to vote. I would also suggest that a threshold would give more legitimacy to the action with the public at large who are impacted.
With voting in general elections etc, part of your democratic right is to choose not to vote. The outcome may then not be what you choose, but it is not an explicitly negative impact which results (although I accept depending on some political persuasions it could be seen that way).
I guess in a long winded way I'm differentiating between negative and positive outcomes if that makes sense. "
I am sure, if I had the will, I could argue the negative impact of low turnout at the general and local elections.
People can vote not to strike as well as to strike, and as pointed out some don't turn out for the vote at all. They fall into the same class as those who don't turn out to vote in the elections, in my view, as they are exercising their right to accept whatever is done unto them. Except, of course, they generally like to moan about whatever action is taken and what is done unto them.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I could say something about not having a rise this year and actually earning 30% less than last year, having less rights than before. Worse working conditions and upholding my civil rights but the OP seems to have all that covered. I would like to ask the OP is English Teachers are rewarded enough for their efforts?"
Too much some of them  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Bin men are on strike because the council have to cut expenditure in all departments. They have taken money from people with a bedroom they aren't using and taken away some housing benefit. Everyone has to suffer the cuts,including the dustmen. I wonder if the management have taken a pay cut? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We could learn a lot from how unions and management work hand in glove in Germany.
Workers should have the right to withdraw their labour as the ultimate sanction in a dispute. I do however agree that in order to take this serious step, at least 50% of the membership should vote, abd 50% of those should vote in favour.in the case of the current. RMT dispute 60% of those who voted agreed with industrial action upto and including strike
But what % of RMT members actually voted? I question the legitimacy of action when very few members actually turn out to vote. Fine if you want to withdraw your labour, but particularly in the public sector, if you are going to do that, for it to be legal there should be a reasonable threshold in terms of the % who actually vote.
How would you then defend that argument on our election of a government? We accept the majority on 30% turnout in local elections, some areas of the general in the past, for the Police and Crime Commissioners. I could go on but you see the point.
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It is a really good point. I would say that a strike in the public sector has a negative impact on a lot of people, which is why I would set a threshold. I would argue that if the union feels that it has to use its weapon of last resort, it should mobilise its membership to vote. I would also suggest that a threshold would give more legitimacy to the action with the public at large who are impacted.
With voting in general elections etc, part of your democratic right is to choose not to vote. The outcome may then not be what you choose, but it is not an explicitly negative impact which results (although I accept depending on some political persuasions it could be seen that way).
I guess in a long winded way I'm differentiating between negative and positive outcomes if that makes sense.
I am sure, if I had the will, I could argue the negative impact of low turnout at the general and local elections.
People can vote not to strike as well as to strike, and as pointed out some don't turn out for the vote at all. They fall into the same class as those who don't turn out to vote in the elections, in my view, as they are exercising their right to accept whatever is done unto them. Except, of course, they generally like to moan about whatever action is taken and what is done unto them.
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I'm totally with you on the negative impact of not voting in elections, and often wonder if we should make it compulsory, but I don't think we should.
I view strikes in maybe the same way as company law. Certain things of real importance require the majority of shareholders or board members to actually vote, even if it is by proxy. |
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Also, there are many in the public sector who are on low pay. These people have had no pay rise for seven or eight years whilst the cost of living has gone up year on year. Effectively the lack of an inflation level pay rise equates to a pay cut... in my local area it's a deficit of over 20%.
Then Cameron our illustrious leader is telling businesses that they need to give their workforce a pay rise to help the economy. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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It is a really good point. I would say that a strike in the public sector has a negative impact on a lot of people, which is why I would set a threshold. I would argue that if the union feels that it has to use its weapon of last resort, it should mobilise its membership to vote. I would also suggest that a threshold would give more legitimacy to the action with the public at large who are impacted.
With voting in general elections etc, part of your democratic right is to choose not to vote. The outcome may then not be what you choose, but it is not an explicitly negative impact which results (although I accept depending on some political persuasions it could be seen that way).
I guess in a long winded way I'm differentiating between negative and positive outcomes if that makes sense.
I am sure, if I had the will, I could argue the negative impact of low turnout at the general and local elections.
People can vote not to strike as well as to strike, and as pointed out some don't turn out for the vote at all. They fall into the same class as those who don't turn out to vote in the elections, in my view, as they are exercising their right to accept whatever is done unto them. Except, of course, they generally like to moan about whatever action is taken and what is done unto them.
I'm totally with you on the negative impact of not voting in elections, and often wonder if we should make it compulsory, but I don't think we should.
I view strikes in maybe the same way as company law. Certain things of real importance require the majority of shareholders or board members to actually vote, even if it is by proxy."
Don't go introducing proxy voting for strikes or general elections.
My point, as I am sure you are aware by now, is that I don't believe you should place a higher threshold on industrial action than you do on the biggest industrial action of all - the voting of our government.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is unfair some can strike and some cannot,but to call people dickheads for wanting to stand up for themselves is a bit harsh."
Joining a union is hardly "standing up for yourself".
If you don't like your job, go and look for another one. You will find one of two things. A better job, or your value. |
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"Many years ago in the seventies , I left school , had a child at just 16 and got a job working nights in a bakery . This afforded me the opportunity to raise him and get married . Within 3 months of starting a strike was called . I voted no , was asked if I was willing to work and said yes .
The management went round with myself and 2 others who didn't strike , doing 4 hour shifts in different bakeries in different towns . We had to keep moving as we were threatened with violence , and indeed got beaten up twice , but still carried on .
So since then I couldn't join a union even if I wanted to . And I certainly wouldn't want to .
I was rewarded with a massive promotion , huge pay rise and bought my first home at 20 thanks to Thatchers offer to buy your council house at a reduced price .
So yes I am a Tory , can't abide unions and strikes , and the above outlines why .
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If I ever read the Headline "Thatcher Had Secret Love Child", I'd ask for a DNA test. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It is a really good point. I would say that a strike in the public sector has a negative impact on a lot of people, which is why I would set a threshold. I would argue that if the union feels that it has to use its weapon of last resort, it should mobilise its membership to vote. I would also suggest that a threshold would give more legitimacy to the action with the public at large who are impacted.
With voting in general elections etc, part of your democratic right is to choose not to vote. The outcome may then not be what you choose, but it is not an explicitly negative impact which results (although I accept depending on some political persuasions it could be seen that way).
I guess in a long winded way I'm differentiating between negative and positive outcomes if that makes sense.
I am sure, if I had the will, I could argue the negative impact of low turnout at the general and local elections.
People can vote not to strike as well as to strike, and as pointed out some don't turn out for the vote at all. They fall into the same class as those who don't turn out to vote in the elections, in my view, as they are exercising their right to accept whatever is done unto them. Except, of course, they generally like to moan about whatever action is taken and what is done unto them.
I'm totally with you on the negative impact of not voting in elections, and often wonder if we should make it compulsory, but I don't think we should.
I view strikes in maybe the same way as company law. Certain things of real importance require the majority of shareholders or board members to actually vote, even if it is by proxy.
Don't go introducing proxy voting for strikes or general elections.
My point, as I am sure you are aware by now, is that I don't believe you should place a higher threshold on industrial action than you do on the biggest industrial action of all - the voting of our government.
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Proxies definitely not the way to go, but the principles are the same. Most things in company law that have a negative impact on other stakeholders, require a majority of shareholders to physically vote, I see strikes, particularly in the public sector in the same way. But I really can see the other side of the argument you so succinctly put forward. |
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"Many years ago in the seventies , I left school , had a child at just 16 and got a job working nights in a bakery . This afforded me the opportunity to raise him and get married . Within 3 months of starting a strike was called . I voted no , was asked if I was willing to work and said yes .
The management went round with myself and 2 others who didn't strike , doing 4 hour shifts in different bakeries in different towns . We had to keep moving as we were threatened with violence , and indeed got beaten up twice , but still carried on .
So since then I couldn't join a union even if I wanted to . And I certainly wouldn't want to .
I was rewarded with a massive promotion , huge pay rise and bought my first home at 20 thanks to Thatchers offer to buy your council house at a reduced price .
So yes I am a Tory , can't abide unions and strikes , and the above outlines why .
If I ever read the Headline "Thatcher Had Secret Love Child", I'd ask for a DNA test."
It's odd really that my parents never had any political leaning . I totally got my conservatism from Thatchers time in power . I think she was a legend , and I know that will upset many of you .
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"Why do people go on strike bout pay rise they should be happy have in a job if I was itv or nhs or railway bosses I'd sack them all and go get people from job centre who would love to work grow up u dickheads at leat u have a wage"
Have you ever thought about a job in HR.
I think you would do very well. |
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"It is unfair some can strike and some cannot,but to call people dickheads for wanting to stand up for themselves is a bit harsh.
Joining a union is hardly "standing up for yourself".
If you don't like your job, go and look for another one. You will find one of two things. A better job, or your value."
its better to do something than nothing at all. |
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"I would never be aggressive to anyone... But actually, I don't agree with striking.
Many people that also 'deserve' pay rises do not have the option to strike... So why should some national services and teachers feel they should be allowed to? "
Because they have the option .... |
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Thatcher was a power crazed lunatic. However she had bigger balls than any other leader before or since. Russians dubbed her the iron lady with good reason. Still hated the cow mind lol. |
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"Just stupid my mum is a nurse and says the wage is good just long hours and days wat they sign up for"
Its true, Nurses pay is quite good, however it won't be long before they will downgrade them, potentially losing up to £2-3k per year but still having to do the exact same job for less money with constantly increased pressures due to low staffing levels as sickness due to stress and unsafe working increases. This is precisely what's happened to Admin colleagues in the NHS in the Trust I work for. I am now on an hourly rate equivalent to 20 years ago in the private sector, but have paid into the pension scheme far too long to just walk away. Its backdoor privatization at its worst. |
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"I work in the nhs,not had a pay rise in four years,working longer hours sometimes not getting a break in a 12hr shift,pension went up 3% which we won't get back,so i must be a dickhead."
I must be a dick head too. No pay rise for me and my annual registration fee has gone up from £75 every three years to £120 a year. Along with the cost of everything else. We also work long days 14hrs not having the time to even stop for a drink. But yeah just sack us when we complain we obviously easy to replace, that's why there is a chronic shortage of qualified staff in UK. Respect to the NHS staff that are not abandoning ship and emigrating to countries That actually have respect for the profession.
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People have fought long and hard for their rights at work and their slowly getting eroded away in the name of recession ...
Being taxed up to the hilt so their take home pay is barely enough to survive on
Your near better off on the scratch.
Striking is a last resort . all other avenues have either been exhausted or management are unwilling to listen to their employees.
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"I work in the nhs,not had a pay rise in four years,working longer hours sometimes not getting a break in a 12hr shift,pension went up 3% which we won't get back,so i must be a dickhead. I must be a dick head too. No pay rise for me and my annual registration fee has gone up from £75 every three years to £120 a year. Along with the cost of everything else. We also work long days 14hrs not having the time to even stop for a drink. But yeah just sack us when we complain we obviously easy to replace, that's why there is a chronic shortage of qualified staff in UK. Respect to the NHS staff that are not abandoning ship and emigrating to countries That actually have respect for the profession."
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"People have fought long and hard for their rights at work and their slowly getting eroded away in the name of recession ...
Being taxed up to the hilt so their take home pay is barely enough to survive on
Your near better off on the scratch.
Striking is a last resort . all other avenues have either been exhausted or management are unwilling to listen to their employees.
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I believe people think striking is the easy option. I have even spoke to people who think that those on strike get their wages for that day.  |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"Why do people go on strike bout pay rise they should be happy have in a job if I was itv or nhs or railway bosses I'd sack them all and go get people from job centre who would love to work grow up u dickheads at leat u have a wage"
Good job you are not itv or nhs or railway bosses, or I'd think you'd have a difficult time writing a job advert. |
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"People have fought long and hard for their rights at work and their slowly getting eroded away in the name of recession ...
Being taxed up to the hilt so their take home pay is barely enough to survive on
Your near better off on the scratch.
Striking is a last resort . all other avenues have either been exhausted or management are unwilling to listen to their employees.
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this..
its not a decision lightly taken and rightly so but when push comes to shove and nothing else will make someone listen its the only alternative..
and its not only about an increase in salary either.. |
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"I work in the nhs,not had a pay rise in four years,working longer hours sometimes not getting a break in a 12hr shift,pension went up 3% which we won't get back,so i must be a dickhead. I must be a dick head too. No pay rise for me and my annual registration fee has gone up from £75 every three years to £120 a year. Along with the cost of everything else. We also work long days 14hrs not having the time to even stop for a drink. But yeah just sack us when we complain we obviously easy to replace, that's why there is a chronic shortage of qualified staff in UK. Respect to the NHS staff that are not abandoning ship and emigrating to countries That actually have respect for the profession."
Pleased to meet you fellow dickhead lol
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"I work in the nhs,not had a pay rise in four years,working longer hours sometimes not getting a break in a 12hr shift,pension went up 3% which we won't get back,so i must be a dickhead. I must be a dick head too. No pay rise for me and my annual registration fee has gone up from £75 every three years to £120 a year. Along with the cost of everything else. We also work long days 14hrs not having the time to even stop for a drink. But yeah just sack us when we complain we obviously easy to replace, that's why there is a chronic shortage of qualified staff in UK. Respect to the NHS staff that are not abandoning ship and emigrating to countries That actually have respect for the profession.Pleased to meet you fellow dickhead lol"
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"I work in the nhs,not had a pay rise in four years,working longer hours sometimes not getting a break in a 12hr shift,pension went up 3% which we won't get back,so i must be a dickhead. I must be a dick head too. No pay rise for me and my annual registration fee has gone up from £75 every three years to £120 a year. Along with the cost of everything else. We also work long days 14hrs not having the time to even stop for a drink. But yeah just sack us when we complain we obviously easy to replace, that's why there is a chronic shortage of qualified staff in UK. Respect to the NHS staff that are not abandoning ship and emigrating to countries That actually have respect for the profession.Pleased to meet you fellow dickhead lol"
nice to meet you too |
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"I work in the nhs,not had a pay rise in four years,working longer hours sometimes not getting a break in a 12hr shift,pension went up 3% which we won't get back,so i must be a dickhead. I must be a dick head too. No pay rise for me and my annual registration fee has gone up from £75 every three years to £120 a year. Along with the cost of everything else. We also work long days 14hrs not having the time to even stop for a drink. But yeah just sack us when we complain we obviously easy to replace, that's why there is a chronic shortage of qualified staff in UK. Respect to the NHS staff that are not abandoning ship and emigrating to countries That actually have respect for the profession.Pleased to meet you fellow dickhead lol"
Skills shortage in my profession too, lots of peeps leaving it because of stress. I don't strike, but the hours are long and the pressure is intense. Doubt many people at the job centre coule do it, to be honest |
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"I work in the nhs,not had a pay rise in four years,working longer hours sometimes not getting a break in a 12hr shift,pension went up 3% which we won't get back,so i must be a dickhead. I must be a dick head too. No pay rise for me and my annual registration fee has gone up from £75 every three years to £120 a year. Along with the cost of everything else. We also work long days 14hrs not having the time to even stop for a drink. But yeah just sack us when we complain we obviously easy to replace, that's why there is a chronic shortage of qualified staff in UK. Respect to the NHS staff that are not abandoning ship and emigrating to countries That actually have respect for the profession.Pleased to meet you fellow dickhead lolnice to meet you too "
Nice profile btw |
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"U have a job be fuckin greatful if Yh not happy leave
Can't think of a better mindset to emphasis why striking is necessary.
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Holding a person or people to ransom is never necessary. |
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Naughty I bet you are on a decent wage and want for nothing,but there are loads of people who are working and earning BELOW the poverty line.So don't criticise people into you look into why they are striking in the first place. |
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"Just stupid my mum is a nurse and says the wage is good just long hours and days wat they sign up for"
my mums an accountant but I know sod all about maths! Where as you seem to know what ever health care professional signs up for with this statement!  |
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"Just stupid my mum is a nurse and says the wage is good just long hours and days wat they sign up for my mums an accountant but I know sod all about maths! Where as you seem to know what ever health care professional signs up for with this statement! "
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"Naughty I bet you are on a decent wage and want for nothing,but there are loads of people who are working and earning BELOW the poverty line.So don't criticise people into you look into why they are striking in the first place."
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"Why do people go on strike bout pay rise they should be happy have in a job if I was itv or nhs or railway bosses I'd sack them all and go get people from job centre who would love to work grow up u dickheads at leat u have a wage"
The stupidity of some idiots knows no bounds. And these people actually have a vote? Awwww, bless! |
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"U have a job be fuckin greatful if Yh not happy leave
Can't think of a better mindset to emphasis why striking is necessary.
Holding a person or people to ransom is never necessary."
Ministers don't care about a reasoned case - if going on strike is the only way they feel they can have their voices heard then so be it.
If that annoys people then tough - if it disrupts people's commute then as Norman Tebbit would say "on your bike!".
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"Can I ask - what do you do for a living Rob. I'm guessing it's nothing that involves writing complete sentences or a position that's customer facing."
Or that requires using correct spelling, grammar or punctuation! Doh! |
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"U have a job be fuckin greatful if Yh not happy leave
Can't think of a better mindset to emphasis why striking is necessary.
Holding a person or people to ransom is never necessary.
Ministers don't care about a reasoned case - if going on strike is the only way they feel they can have their voices heard then so be it.
If that annoys people then tough - if it disrupts people's commute then as Norman Tebbit would say "on your bike!".
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A letter of resignation is more honorable. |
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"U have a job be fuckin greatful if Yh not happy leave
Can't think of a better mindset to emphasis why striking is necessary.
Holding a person or people to ransom is never necessary.
Ministers don't care about a reasoned case - if going on strike is the only way they feel they can have their voices heard then so be it.
If that annoys people then tough - if it disrupts people's commute then as Norman Tebbit would say "on your bike!".
A letter of resignation is more honorable."
Don't fret, Cameron will soon out-law going on strike. Then we can all join in on the race to the bottom. |
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"U have a job be fuckin greatful if Yh not happy leave
Can't think of a better mindset to emphasis why striking is necessary.
Holding a person or people to ransom is never necessary.
Ministers don't care about a reasoned case - if going on strike is the only way they feel they can have their voices heard then so be it.
If that annoys people then tough - if it disrupts people's commute then as Norman Tebbit would say "on your bike!".
A letter of resignation is more honorable.
Don't fret, Cameron will soon out-law going on strike. Then we can all join in on the race to the bottom. "
Hope he does it sooner rather than later |
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"U have a job be fuckin greatful if Yh not happy leave
Can't think of a better mindset to emphasis why striking is necessary.
Holding a person or people to ransom is never necessary.
Ministers don't care about a reasoned case - if going on strike is the only way they feel they can have their voices heard then so be it.
If that annoys people then tough - if it disrupts people's commute then as Norman Tebbit would say "on your bike!".
A letter of resignation is more honorable.
Don't fret, Cameron will soon out-law going on strike. Then we can all join in on the race to the bottom.
Hope he does it sooner rather than later "
So do I, the more he does to inflict his imperialism the better the outcome of the 2020 election will be. |
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"U have a job be fuckin greatful if Yh not happy leave
Can't think of a better mindset to emphasis why striking is necessary.
Holding a person or people to ransom is never necessary.
Ministers don't care about a reasoned case - if going on strike is the only way they feel they can have their voices heard then so be it.
If that annoys people then tough - if it disrupts people's commute then as Norman Tebbit would say "on your bike!".
A letter of resignation is more honorable.
Don't fret, Cameron will soon out-law going on strike. Then we can all join in on the race to the bottom.
Hope he does it sooner rather than later
So do I, the more he does to inflict his imperialism the better the outcome of the 2020 election will be. "
More likely for him ( well by then it will be Boris ) as we seem to be waking up to the realisation that it's the Tories who offer economic stability , opportunity to those willing to work , etc...... |
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"I don't agree with strikes. If your not happy with your job, find one you are happy in.
Luke"
respect thats your opinion however some people also take strike action to protect the service they are happy working in to protect that service from cuts that they as the professionals know will have a detrimental effect upon the 'service users'..
the public.. |
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"Bin men are on strike because the council have to cut expenditure in all departments. They have taken money from people with a bedroom they aren't using and taken away some housing benefit. Everyone has to suffer the cuts,including the dustmen. I wonder if the management have taken a pay cut? "
Everyone except MPs / ministers |
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"I don't agree with strikes. If your not happy with your job, find one you are happy in.
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respect thats your opinion however some people also take strike action to protect the service they are happy working in to protect that service from cuts that they as the professionals know will have a detrimental effect upon the 'service users'..
the public.."
Exactly !
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