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By *urvybrunette91 OP   Woman  over a year ago

tidworth

A new series has just started...

Who is watching / who enjoys watching?!

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By *oudnproudWoman  over a year ago

penrith

Im watching and its annoying me already.

18 and retired... cant count his money but can count his drugs

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By *emonWoman84Woman  over a year ago

Hartlepool

I'm recording it to watch later

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman  over a year ago

Hereabouts

I'm watching it.. Tempted to just go to bed as I'm not allowed to put the subtitles on..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can't watch it, as the programme makers deliberately pick out the most outrageous benefit claimants. Then all claimants are unfairly tarred with the same brush.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think the Tories footed the Director's salary to make propaganda for them!

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By *oe bloggs69Man  over a year ago

fife


"I can't watch it, as the programme makers deliberately pick out the most outrageous benefit claimants. Then all claimants are unfairly tarred with the same brush.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think the Tories footed the Director's salary to make propaganda for them! "

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By *urvybrunette91 OP   Woman  over a year ago

tidworth

Can claim £500 a month benefit, an extra £200 bi-weekly, can not work due to memory loss... From smoking canabis... Seems fair!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Im watching and its annoying me already.

18 and retired... cant count his money but can count his drugs "

Turn it over at that point before I get evicted for shouting at the TV

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What it must be like to be their neighbors

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By *oudnproudWoman  over a year ago

penrith


"What it must be like to be their neighbors "

I think my new neighbours could of come from the benifit street! !!!

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By *ig1gaz1Man  over a year ago

bradford


"I can't watch it, as the programme makers deliberately pick out the most outrageous benefit claimants. Then all claimants are unfairly tarred with the same brush.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think the Tories footed the Director's salary to make propaganda for them! "

propaganda at its best yet some believe its fact

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By *ophiasChoiceWoman  over a year ago

ystrad mynach


"I can't watch it, as the programme makers deliberately pick out the most outrageous benefit claimants. Then all claimants are unfairly tarred with the same brush.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think the Tories footed the Director's salary to make propaganda for them! "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What's the conspiracy?

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By *icked weaselCouple  over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..


"I can't watch it, as the programme makers deliberately pick out the most outrageous benefit claimants. Then all claimants are unfairly tarred with the same brush.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think the Tories footed the Director's salary to make propaganda for them! "

Like the Tabloids.. They just Want Scandal Stories.. poor people living on next to nothing and getting by would be a hard Story to believe..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've not seen the program but would think the Daily Mail can gorge on its contents for endless articles.

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By *dsindyTV/TS  over a year ago

East Lancashire

Its all been said.........

Pick out the worst cases, and air them, makes good entertainment. But like Hollywood, not to be believed.......

Mind you, there are loads out there who think this is the usual thing for benefit claimers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't think it's usual but it shouldn't even be unusual.

I wonder how much extra involvement the council will have after it's been shown?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What's the conspiracy?"

That many people think that every benefit claimant lives the way they do on Benefit street. Is there a better word ? Maybe , but it's a programme that feeds the _iew benefit scroungers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Stop watching crap television and have more sex.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can't watch it makes me angry to see where my taxes go to there just pure low life's they shouldn't get a penny if they don't work.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What's the conspiracy?

That many people think that every benefit claimant lives the way they do on Benefit street. Is there a better word ? Maybe , but it's a programme that feeds the _iew benefit scroungers. "

Even when one of the 'scroungers' got a job the papers acted like she was defrauding benefits.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can claim £500 a month benefit, an extra £200 bi-weekly, can not work due to memory loss... From smoking canabis... Seems fair! "

That is disgusting, that is the equivalent to around about 70%-80% of the national minimum wage I'd say off the top of my head. For smoking skunk lol. I'm glad I havent seen it

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I can't watch it, as the programme makers deliberately pick out the most outrageous benefit claimants. Then all claimants are unfairly tarred with the same brush.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think the Tories footed the Director's salary to make propaganda for them! "

This!

Manipulation and people fall for it: those watching and those desperate for their fifteen minutes!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What's the conspiracy?

That many people think that every benefit claimant lives the way they do on Benefit street. Is there a better word ? Maybe , but it's a programme that feeds the _iew benefit scroungers.

Even when one of the 'scroungers' got a job the papers acted like she was defrauding benefits."

I also get the fact that there are genuine people out there who need help and struggle to get it. The amount of people who screw the system is shocking!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Government propaganda - what crap!

It's a commercial programme looking for _iewing figures.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

show me a programme about the super rich tax dodgers and il watch. shows like this make me sick. preying on the weak!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The regional news reported that the tv co got rejected by Middlebro so they went to Stockton.

A few streets refused to take part ...

The other end of Stockton is middle class.. Montessori nannies and au pairs...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What's the conspiracy?

That many people think that every benefit claimant lives the way they do on Benefit street. Is there a better word ? Maybe , but it's a programme that feeds the _iew benefit scroungers.

Even when one of the 'scroungers' got a job the papers acted like she was defrauding benefits.

I also get the fact that there are genuine people out there who need help and struggle to get it. The amount of people who screw the system is shocking!"

Yeah people who screw the system piss me off as well, it's insulting to those who are genuinely disabled.

There aren't that many fraudsters though, and the guy is able to legitimately claim those benefits for brain damage, even if it was self inflicted. I've not seen the show yet, not got live tv here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't watch it! It tarnishes everyone with the same brush. Of course they are going to pick the worst people that have the most entertainment factor but dosent reflect reality and the majority of people that use/ need benefits.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm impressed that people who don't watch it are so informed about it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The street has been tidied and exteriors painted white.

Just heard on.local radio that the tv co did not cooperate with police.. They have put a press release out saying there may be arrests.

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By *ezjez369Man  over a year ago

london

Oxygen thieves the lot of em. May not be indicative of benefit claimants per se but certainly the ones on tonight should be rounded up and gassed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can claim £500 a month benefit, an extra £200 bi-weekly, can not work due to memory loss... From smoking canabis... Seems fair! "

Really?! That's not fair at all.......He's missing out on his extra benefits for causing misplaced outrage and upping _iewing figures.

He could be getting a crisp tenner for every angry outburst attributed to him diverting attention from the real crooks....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

don't watch it - in fact watch v little TV anymore as there is actually very little worthwhile watching - trash telly apart from BBC4 and the odd thing on mainstream - telly is just dumbing us down as a nation

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Aw. Someone got their benefits cut from £90 a fortnight to nothing.

Surprised no-one mentioned that and how depressed he is.

Watching it now btw.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Aw, that lady with the disabled son, she's lovely. Wish her all the luck in the world.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Aw. Someone got their benefits cut from £90 a fortnight to nothing.

Surprised no-one mentioned that and how depressed he is.

Watching it now btw."

That was because he couldn't be arsed to attend a job inter_iew wasn't it? (I was only half listening)

If so 'Aw'??

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here

Horrific television that serves no purpose.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't watch it, as the programme makers deliberately pick out the most outrageous benefit claimants. Then all claimants are unfairly tarred with the same brush.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think the Tories footed the Director's salary to make propaganda for them!

propaganda at its best yet some believe its fact "

But they just said it was fact.

They aren't actors,they are just picking the most marketable people which is the extreme it doesn't make it not true.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What's the conspiracy?

That many people think that every benefit claimant lives the way they do on Benefit street. Is there a better word ? Maybe , but it's a programme that feeds the _iew benefit scroungers.

Even when one of the 'scroungers' got a job the papers acted like she was defrauding benefits.

I also get the fact that there are genuine people out there who need help and struggle to get it. The amount of people who screw the system is shocking!

Yeah people who screw the system piss me off as well, it's insulting to those who are genuinely disabled.

There aren't that many fraudsters though, and the guy is able to legitimately claim those benefits for brain damage, even if it was self inflicted. I've not seen the show yet, not got live tv here."

What was the claim? As I've not seen it but from other comments I'd be seriously disturbed by any doctor accepting "brain damage from cannabis" as a diagnosis.

For one you'd think it would feature more heavily in the anti drug campaigns as the current biggest stick they have for cannabis is "it might make you smoke tobacco or lead to other drugs"

Brain damage would be a pretty big win.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm disturbed at how defensive people are about these people.

As much as anything such people damage the case for lending support to the majority of those who use the support they get responsibly.

These kind of people have lived in these ways for at least the length of my lifetime and we still haven't found a way to tackle it. Pretending it's not a problem helps nobody.

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I'm disturbed at how defensive people are about these people.

As much as anything such people damage the case for lending support to the majority of those who use the support they get responsibly.

These kind of people have lived in these ways for at least the length of my lifetime and we still haven't found a way to tackle it. Pretending it's not a problem helps nobody.

"

My ex husband and I worked and studied hard before saving and having children: as did our parents. My children are all university educated, my youngest a PhD student whilst doing two part time jobs, running an online business and publishing a book.

I own a house in a nice part of London and my ex lives mortgage free in an apartment he just bought in Essex. We've worked dammed hard for what we've achieved without ever venturing near any benefit system.

Lazy, stupid, entitled benefit scroungers annoy the hell out of me, and paying to keep those that make a choice not to work boils my piss. However, these types of programmes are designed to incite outrage by showing the worst of the worst to reinforce stereotypes.

Those that are on benefit in genuine need I have absolutely no problem with: but for the grace of God and all that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm disturbed at how defensive people are about these people.

As much as anything such people damage the case for lending support to the majority of those who use the support they get responsibly.

These kind of people have lived in these ways for at least the length of my lifetime and we still haven't found a way to tackle it. Pretending it's not a problem helps nobody.

My ex husband and I worked and studied hard before saving and having children: as did our parents. My children are all university educated, my youngest a PhD student whilst doing two part time jobs, running an online business and publishing a book.

I own a house in a nice part of London and my ex lives mortgage free in an apartment he just bought in Essex. We've worked dammed hard for what we've achieved without ever venturing near any benefit system.

Lazy, stupid, entitled benefit scroungers annoy the hell out of me, and paying to keep those that make a choice not to work boils my piss. However, these types of programmes are designed to incite outrage by showing the worst of the worst to reinforce stereotypes.

Those that are on benefit in genuine need I have absolutely no problem with: but for the grace of God and all that."

Well said that woman!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As a programme it had few redeeming features. It was exploitative and without any real narrative to explain the situation of the people on the show.

I thought there were some genuinely sad stories and people who thoroughly deserve our support and respect, as well as the idiots who clearly don't, but that distinction wasn't made by the programme, it was left to the _iewer to work out.

I hope people can see through this type of garbage but I doubt it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


", it was left to the _iewer to work out.

."

It's depressing that leaving people to make their own judgement rather than telling them what they should believe is seen as a bad thing these days.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


", it was left to the _iewer to work out.

.

It's depressing that leaving people to make their own judgement rather than telling them what they should believe is seen as a bad thing these days."

It shouldn't be a bad thing, but as the comments on this thread and elsewhere show, people tend to lump everyone on this show and in benefits in general into the same bucket when a clear distinction is needed. I just feel a narrative would help.

But you are right in your point in general

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't watch it, as the programme makers deliberately pick out the most outrageous benefit claimants. Then all claimants are unfairly tarred with the same brush.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think the Tories footed the Director's salary to make propaganda for them!

propaganda at its best yet some believe its fact

But they just said it was fact.

They aren't actors,they are just picking the most marketable people which is the extreme it doesn't make it not true. "

It is true , but it's focusing on a very small minority of claimants. So it gives a skewed picture. That's what I dislike about it. I know there are those that play the system - I also always think though, I still wouldn't ever want their life!

It's the fact that it demonises genuine cases that makes it unfair.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What's the conspiracy?

That many people think that every benefit claimant lives the way they do on Benefit street. Is there a better word ? Maybe , but it's a programme that feeds the _iew benefit scroungers.

Even when one of the 'scroungers' got a job the papers acted like she was defrauding benefits.

I also get the fact that there are genuine people out there who need help and struggle to get it. The amount of people who screw the system is shocking!

Yeah people who screw the system piss me off as well, it's insulting to those who are genuinely disabled.

There aren't that many fraudsters though, and the guy is able to legitimately claim those benefits for brain damage, even if it was self inflicted. I've not seen the show yet, not got live tv here.

What was the claim? As I've not seen it but from other comments I'd be seriously disturbed by any doctor accepting "brain damage from cannabis" as a diagnosis.

For one you'd think it would feature more heavily in the anti drug campaigns as the current biggest stick they have for cannabis is "it might make you smoke tobacco or lead to other drugs"

Brain damage would be a pretty big win."

Did they mean mental health issues rather than brain damage per se?

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By *educedWoman  over a year ago

Birmingham

I had email conversations with that particular production team about filming in the neighbourhood where I work before they headed off to Winson Green for the first series. I am so glad I told them no.

People trapped on benefits and in poverty is a very complicated issue that won't be solved over night. Neighbourhoods like the one I work in (one of the ten most deprived in England) have been neglected by the authorities for years. Poverty is not just about not having any money but having few opportunities or aspirations and TV shows like this further compound these issues by helping to create a them and us situation. It's a vicious circle!

So, yeah I work with people who claim benefits and for the most part they are wonderful people. Perhaps the next series will focus more on the positives (social capital is higher in neighbourhoods like mine for example) because I can assure you that there are more positive stories then negative ones!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Poverty of aspiration is an issue. But then so is turning a blind eye.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A new series has just started...

Who is watching / who enjoys watching?!

"

MUPPETS!!!! It was on the news today the police will use TV footage to for any prosecutions.

Who in their right mind would go on TV to declare themselves poor/scrounger/cheat/Thief/anything else you can think of.

It beggars belief what went through their minds to sign up!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Stop watching crap television and have more sex. "

here here!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its the modern day equivalent of a Victorian freak show. But they're no longer PC. Let's peer in and laugh at the poor and uneducated instead.

Channel Four sold its soul a long time ago.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I had email conversations with that particular production team about filming in the neighbourhood where I work before they headed off to Winson Green for the first series. I am so glad I told them no.

People trapped on benefits and in poverty is a very complicated issue that won't be solved over night. Neighbourhoods like the one I work in (one of the ten most deprived in England) have been neglected by the authorities for years. Poverty is not just about not having any money but having few opportunities or aspirations and TV shows like this further compound these issues by helping to create a them and us situation. It's a vicious circle!

So, yeah I work with people who claim benefits and for the most part they are wonderful people. Perhaps the next series will focus more on the positives (social capital is higher in neighbourhoods like mine for example) because I can assure you that there are more positive stories then negative ones! "

Agree it's a complex issue BUT some things can't be excused. A particular part of Oldham, for example, was the first ever 'Housing Action area' in the country some 40/50 years ago. You know how it goes - the Local Authority spend a huge chunk of our council tax (previously rates) on providing FREE new roofs, walls, fancy gates and uPVC windows (all for free - on private dwellings) to improve the housing stock and make the area more attractive. Guess what? Each generation that has lived there has not appreciated it - trashed the area again - and again it gets more public money poured into it - they are currently building another community centre (the last one was subject of arson) and painting the tarmac green to attract imaginary cyclists! You couldn't make it up !! Scary the utter hundreds of millions that has been wasted on this one area alone - that's what makes me sick

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Horsham

I love hearing about a person who has no qualifications, that will only come off benefits if they are given a £30k a year job.

Or some numpty who thinks his benefits are free money.

I get a real laugh out of it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When I first moved out of home I rented a one bedroom flat in a council area. Can't say I met anybody who didn't fit into the Benefits Street stereotype. Sad but true in my case.

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By *educedWoman  over a year ago

Birmingham


"I had email conversations with that particular production team about filming in the neighbourhood where I work before they headed off to Winson Green for the first series. I am so glad I told them no.

People trapped on benefits and in poverty is a very complicated issue that won't be solved over night. Neighbourhoods like the one I work in (one of the ten most deprived in England) have been neglected by the authorities for years. Poverty is not just about not having any money but having few opportunities or aspirations and TV shows like this further compound these issues by helping to create a them and us situation. It's a vicious circle!

So, yeah I work with people who claim benefits and for the most part they are wonderful people. Perhaps the next series will focus more on the positives (social capital is higher in neighbourhoods like mine for example) because I can assure you that there are more positive stories then negative ones!

Agree it's a complex issue BUT some things can't be excused. A particular part of Oldham, for example, was the first ever 'Housing Action area' in the country some 40/50 years ago. You know how it goes - the Local Authority spend a huge chunk of our council tax (previously rates) on providing FREE new roofs, walls, fancy gates and uPVC windows (all for free - on private dwellings) to improve the housing stock and make the area more attractive. Guess what? Each generation that has lived there has not appreciated it - trashed the area again - and again it gets more public money poured into it - they are currently building another community centre (the last one was subject of arson) and painting the tarmac green to attract imaginary cyclists! You couldn't make it up !! Scary the utter hundreds of millions that has been wasted on this one area alone - that's what makes me sick"

Physical regeneration is like putting a sticking plaster on a bullet wound.

It won't help improve the levels of deprivation facing people who live there. True regeneration includes working with people to help them to help themselves and providing them with the capacity and opportunity to play a more active role in their community.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I had email conversations with that particular production team about filming in the neighbourhood where I work before they headed off to Winson Green for the first series. I am so glad I told them no.

People trapped on benefits and in poverty is a very complicated issue that won't be solved over night. Neighbourhoods like the one I work in (one of the ten most deprived in England) have been neglected by the authorities for years. Poverty is not just about not having any money but having few opportunities or aspirations and TV shows like this further compound these issues by helping to create a them and us situation. It's a vicious circle!

So, yeah I work with people who claim benefits and for the most part they are wonderful people. Perhaps the next series will focus more on the positives (social capital is higher in neighbourhoods like mine for example) because I can assure you that there are more positive stories then negative ones!

Agree it's a complex issue BUT some things can't be excused. A particular part of Oldham, for example, was the first ever 'Housing Action area' in the country some 40/50 years ago. You know how it goes - the Local Authority spend a huge chunk of our council tax (previously rates) on providing FREE new roofs, walls, fancy gates and uPVC windows (all for free - on private dwellings) to improve the housing stock and make the area more attractive. Guess what? Each generation that has lived there has not appreciated it - trashed the area again - and again it gets more public money poured into it - they are currently building another community centre (the last one was subject of arson) and painting the tarmac green to attract imaginary cyclists! You couldn't make it up !! Scary the utter hundreds of millions that has been wasted on this one area alone - that's what makes me sick

Physical regeneration is like putting a sticking plaster on a bullet wound.

It won't help improve the levels of deprivation facing people who live there. True regeneration includes working with people to help them to help themselves and providing them with the capacity and opportunity to play a more active role in their community. "

Yes all that has been done too - job clubs, voluntary activities etc etc. The simple fact in life is that there is a section of society that is simply 'scum' - unpalatable but true and I have every sympathy with any decent person (benefits or not) who has to live amongst the 'scum' (as I did once - utterly horrendous)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can claim £500 a month benefit, an extra £200 bi-weekly, can not work due to memory loss... From smoking canabis... Seems fair! "

I thought that to. On the same disabity rate as my mum. Yet my mum literally cannot do anything for herself other than use her right hand due to a strok paralysing Her left side. But he only has memory loss

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't watch it, as the programme makers deliberately pick out the most outrageous benefit claimants. Then all claimants are unfairly tarred with the same brush.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think the Tories footed the Director's salary to make propaganda for them! "

You're not the only one thinking that, well said.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People used to pay to go to Bedlam and poke fun and gawk at the residents. Now all you have to do is turn on the television.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is a programme like Shameless more acceptable because we can pretend it's been exaggerated?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Most of the people were ok, the drug addict did portray disabled benefits badly, but everyone else was normal.

They're just people trying to live their lives in the best way they can, despite being deprived of a lot that others take for granted.

One woman was a carer for someone who needs 24 hour care, one was a mum and grandma - just like many people are, one was a criminal but the system knows about him, one was a mum in debt and being ripped off by debtors but felt she had no choice - just like many other people, one was a guy depressed because he lost his girlfriend and woke up next to her dead and i can't even imagine having to deal with that luckily.

They're just people, like you and me, trying to survive and live their life like you and me.

Yeah they're brassy, uncouth even but so what, some people just have to be like that to exist.

Their area looked ok as well, not even run down.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Be interesting to see if the prepaid cards announced today will have an impact... and how long it takes people to find ways of abusing them.

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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I have no interest in watching it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Be interesting to see if the prepaid cards announced today will have an impact... and how long it takes people to find ways of abusing them."

Only two people signed up to use them last year when it was being tested and voluntary.

There's ways of abusing everything yeah but i just think will petty crime and theft will go up more, if anything.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple  over a year ago

Derbyshire


"Most of the people were ok, the drug addict did portray disabled benefits badly, but everyone else was normal.

They're just people trying to live their lives in the best way they can, despite being deprived of a lot that others take for granted.

One woman was a carer for someone who needs 24 hour care, one was a mum and grandma - just like many people are, one was a criminal but the system knows about him, one was a mum in debt and being ripped off by debtors but felt she had no choice - just like many other people, one was a guy depressed because he lost his girlfriend and woke up next to her dead and i can't even imagine having to deal with that luckily.

They're just people, like you and me, trying to survive and live their life like you and me.

Yeah they're brassy, uncouth even but so what, some people just have to be like that to exist.

Their area looked ok as well, not even run down.

"

Hours of footage will have been cut down to show the most contentious bits. The local papers would have been better to have waited until after the locals got to see how the programme would be edited.

Unbelievable timing though: the same day the Tories announce a crackdown on benefits!

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Most of the people were ok, the drug addict did portray disabled benefits badly, but everyone else was normal.

They're just people trying to live their lives in the best way they can, despite being deprived of a lot that others take for granted.

One woman was a carer for someone who needs 24 hour care, one was a mum and grandma - just like many people are, one was a criminal but the system knows about him, one was a mum in debt and being ripped off by debtors but felt she had no choice - just like many other people, one was a guy depressed because he lost his girlfriend and woke up next to her dead and i can't even imagine having to deal with that luckily.

They're just people, like you and me, trying to survive and live their life like you and me.

Yeah they're brassy, uncouth even but so what, some people just have to be like that to exist.

Their area looked ok as well, not even run down.

Hours of footage will have been cut down to show the most contentious bits. The local papers would have been better to have waited until after the locals got to see how the programme would be edited.

Unbelievable timing though: the same day the Tories announce a crackdown on benefits!

Mr ddc"

"Unbelievable timing though: the same day the Tories announce a crackdown on benefits!" Yeah that conspiracy is looking more realistic all the time.

Benefits have already been cut, was in the news today about a man who's been sanctioned for a year and was caught stealing out of the bins at the back of a supermarket and the judge just dismissed the trial, said how can he prosecute someone for trying to stay alive.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple  over a year ago

Derbyshire

Blimey, sanctioned for a year?!

I always assumed it was for a.week or two, and so long as you did what they wanted they let you sign on again.

What is someone sanctioned for a year supposed to do? How are they supposed to eat?

I understand cracking down on feckless scroungers, but these programmes really just show that there are a large number of people who have real problems and need real help, not scorn.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Blimey, sanctioned for a year?!

I always assumed it was for a.week or two, and so long as you did what they wanted they let you sign on again.

What is someone sanctioned for a year supposed to do? How are they supposed to eat?

I understand cracking down on feckless scroungers, but these programmes really just show that there are a large number of people who have real problems and need real help, not scorn."

Yeah a year. Not entitled to anything for a whole year. His kids have already gone into the care of another family member. And that's why the judge didn't prosecute him because he even said you can't make it illegal to survive.

He has no money for anything, social services are paying for him and his wife somewhere to live as it is. It's in a few newspapers today.

People think the sanctions are nothing but they're real, they happen way too easily as well. Seen them happen to so many people for no real reason at all. Even those who have worked and in between jobs, it happens to them.

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By *eithoWoman  over a year ago

Chatham

The programme infuriated me that they mentioned that 'Julie' hasn't worked for 15 years. Then it takes them 20 minutes to mention she's a carer for her severely disabled son and can't work so she can look after him.

Carers like her save our country a fortune!! They deserve support and respect, not condemnation.

I'm in a privileged position in that through my work I see hundreds of people on benefits every year and they share the details of their lives with me. I've yet to meet a single one who was on benefits by choice. Literally, not one.

I'm glad this year they're at least giving an inkling of what people on social security go through and how they get there. But it doesn't go anywhere near far enough.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This street will not have been selected for its hard working citizens struggling to make the best of what they may be.

Our welfare system is something we can be proud of, it helps people that would otherwise die in other parts of the world.

But on the flip side it's an undeniable fact that it doesn't work for everyone. I think this programme highlights that issue.

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By *educedWoman  over a year ago

Birmingham

Its bull shit. Crap! Bollocks! Shite! Repeat three times!

Our BIGGEST welfare bill (disregarding pensions) is made up of families who work.

Less than 4% are addicts.

Less than 1% of all claimants gets more than £26,000 median wage most of whom are living in expensive temporary accommodation in London.

1 in 8 recipients of Housing Benefit work!

The figures are there if you look hard enough but it's easier to blame the 'feckless' for our woes!

What few realise is that 88% of benefit cuts are still to come. Maybe when these changes start to affect you or our friends and families we should get a film crew in to film the struggles so we can all have a good old laugh!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Who's blaming the 'feckless for our woes'?

The defensiveness here is bizarre.

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By *ot monkey71Couple  over a year ago

middlesbrough


"I can't watch it, as the programme makers deliberately pick out the most outrageous benefit claimants. Then all claimants are unfairly tarred with the same brush.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think the Tories footed the Director's salary to make propaganda for them! "

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By *ig1gaz1Man  over a year ago

bradford


"Yeah a year. Not entitled to anything for a whole year. His kids have already gone into the care of another family member. And that's why the judge didn't prosecute him because he even said you can't make it illegal to survive.

He has no money for anything, social services are paying for him and his wife somewhere to live as it is. It's in a few newspapers today.

People think the sanctions are nothing but they're real, they happen way too easily as well. Seen them happen to so many people for no real reason at all. Even those who have worked and in between jobs, it happens to them."

which newspapers ?

if you dont mind me asking

for sanctions you would laugh

Sofya Harrison was sanctioned for attending a job inter_iew and moving her signing-on to another day.

Sean Halkyward, 24, said his benefits were sanctioned because he looked for too many jobs in one week.

A man had to miss his regular appointment at the job centre to attend his father’s funeral. He was sanctioned even though he told DWP staff in advance.

A man with heart problems who was on Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) had a heart attack during a work capability assessment. He was then sanctioned for failing to complete the assessment.

those give you an idea of how stupid the sanctions are and anyone that loses there job faces them when an adviser uses ambiguous claims against a claimant

im also very active in aiding those that have been wrongly sanctioned by the dwp system by an advisers claims and there unfair jsag cc that some dont discuss as what is there right the jcp adviser has illegaly adding things that havent been discused onto paperwork

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By *educedWoman  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Who's blaming the 'feckless for our woes'?

The defensiveness here is bizarre."

Society/Government/Media! I just picked up on a word that has been used more than once today in this thread.

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By *ot monkey71Couple  over a year ago

middlesbrough


"I had email conversations with that particular production team about filming in the neighbourhood where I work before they headed off to Winson Green for the first series. I am so glad I told them no.

People trapped on benefits and in poverty is a very complicated issue that won't be solved over night. Neighbourhoods like the one I work in (one of the ten most deprived in England) have been neglected by the authorities for years. Poverty is not just about not having any money but having few opportunities or aspirations and TV shows like this further compound these issues by helping to create a them and us situation. It's a vicious circle!

So, yeah I work with people who claim benefits and for the most part they are wonderful people. Perhaps the next series will focus more on the positives (social capital is higher in neighbourhoods like mine for example) because I can assure you that there are more positive stories then negative ones! "

So true, it's a shame they can't use their airtime to help these people!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I saw the story in the mirror, and the metro.

They stopped my sons money for 18 months, and when they started paying him they sanctioned him the first month for not going to a jobs fair (which he went to and proved) so they sanctioned him for something else instead, can't remember what. But yeah ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who's blaming the 'feckless for our woes'?

The defensiveness here is bizarre.

Society/Government/Media! I just picked up on a word that has been used more than once today in this thread.

"

There does seem to be a lot more of this kind of programme on TV the past few years.

On the otherhand if these people weren't so interesting they wouldn't be being filmed - or they may be but it would be called The Only Way Is Whatever etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Attitude reflects leadership in my opinion...

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