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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"UKIP have refused Farage' resignation so he will continue to lead them. "
If the party is to move on it needs to bring more people to the public attention and rely less on the Farage persona. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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It's hardly a surprise.
A resignation because he said he would resign if he didn't secure a seat as an MP. A resignation that said he would consider re-selection after the summer holidays. A party that appears not to want any other leader.
I actually feel a tad sorry for him as he may actually want to resign, have a proper break and get his health back. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"What gets me is this guy is all about the UK and all that but sounds French, he has the name of a French vegetable.
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According to Urban Dictionary his name is not a French vegetable.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Good news for ukip, bad news for lib dems and labour 
there have been few politicians we have liked over the years, Farage comes across as the most genuine. and after watching him on youtube he is also pretty knowledgable when he gets questioned of script unlike some who just refuse to answer or just freeze up,
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ukip are fucked no matter who runs them really. Ukip headquarters round here got their window kicked in and vandalised just before the election.
I'm not surprised he decided to stay, who wouldn't and why would we trust him to tell the truth anyway (or any politician). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"wonder if our resident 'Kippers will be in this thread... some of them still owe me election charity bet money
sit, watches and smiles..... "
Maybe there still waiting for there JSA payment to come through. |
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Its good news for sure!,he is more forthright & honest than Camermoron & Milly Bland,UKIP pulled in more votes than SNP,Lib Dems & the welsh lot combined but are on the rise!.
Some dirty dealings with a stolen van load of ballot papers probably caused the loss of Thanet seat and casts doubts there as UKIP skated it in Council elections. |
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"Ukip are fucked no matter who runs them really. Ukip headquarters round here got their window kicked in and vandalised just before the election."
So you are proud to support leftwing Fascist hooligans then?.  |
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"Ukip are fucked no matter who runs them really. Ukip headquarters round here got their window kicked in and vandalised just before the election.
So you are proud to support leftwing Fascist hooligans then?. "
No, are you? |
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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago
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"i think the party did well with him,, i liked his straight talking,, id rather have a drink with him than Ed, Nick or David "
put me down for a fosters as i to would have a drink with him , you have to respect a man that tells it how it is , |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Ukip are fucked no matter who runs them really. Ukip headquarters round here got their window kicked in and vandalised just before the election.
So you are proud to support leftwing Fascist hooligans then?. "
left wing Fascists? That's a new one. |
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"wonder if our resident 'Kippers will be in this thread... some of them still owe me election charity bet money
sit, watches and smiles.....
Maybe there still waiting for there JSA payment to come through."
Thought the ones waiting for JSA payments were MillyBland and his redundant unwanted fellow Labour MPs?. |
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I don't like UKIP but Carswell is an effective MP.
The rest are pretty dreadful though, especially that women who goes on This Week.
It is a pretty sorry state when the Hamiltons are pretty much the best you can offer. |
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We will see what his party has to offer as UKIP won the local council elections for our area, so time will tell if he actually carries out what he said he was going to!
If he does then he will get my vote next time, as the area really does need to be totally turned around |
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"Ukip are fucked no matter who runs them really. Ukip headquarters round here got their window kicked in and vandalised just before the election.
So you are proud to support leftwing Fascist hooligans then?. "
What he said |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Regardless of his political stance, Farage has been good for British Politics by raising the profile of politics in general. None of the other Party leaders have anywhere near the same amount of charisma. And before anyone asks, I am not a UKIP supporter and did not vote for them. |
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"i think the party did well with him, ..............
One MP? An ex-Tory at that.
I bet he hopes he never does badly."
Yes one MP, (would've had over 80 seats under proportional representation) and share of the vote up massively from the 2010 election, (UKIP came 3rd overall in terms of vote share), a solid 2nd place in over 90 seats, and over 200 councillors elected. All in all a good election night for UKIP and something to build on for 2020. I think your beloved Scottish Labour had a much worse night on Thursday/early hours of friday. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd say he is their only personage, really. I don't think that says much good about the party, either.
A party that relies on the personality of one person is often called a cult.
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You can't use that word in here! Oh cult,sorry. |
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"UKIP have refused Farage' resignation so he will continue to lead them. "
In answer to the OP, i'm personally pleased to see Farage will still be leader, but think it would have been better for him to have a break over the summer, and come back to put his name forward for a leadership election in september as he suggested he might have done. There are other good candidates for leader such as Suzanne Evans, Steven Woolfe, Partick O'Flynn, Paul Nuttall, Douglas Carswell and Diane James, but without doubt Nigel Farage is the best man for the job. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Fact he said will stand down for now and then would possibly stand later on shows he is egotistical and his resignation no more than bullshit at least clegg much as i despise the power hungry twat has gone properly same goes with Milliband
Farage believes his own hype and so glad he didnt win even though it meant a tory twat got in.
Its about principles with tories and labour no matter whether you agree with them you have idea where they stand Farage was one trick pony and europe not important as nhs to me. He was on record saying he wanted it private healthcare like in usa.
Then he said he would plough money into it because he believed in it. No better than Clegg in my _iew he shafted those students soon as he got foot in door. |
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"UKIP have refused Farage' resignation so he will continue to lead them.
In answer to the OP, i'm personally pleased to see Farage will still be leader, but think it would have been better for him to have a break over the summer, and come back to put his name forward for a leadership election in september as he suggested he might have done. There are other good candidates for leader such as Suzanne Evans, Steven Woolfe, Partick O'Flynn, Paul Nuttall, Douglas Carswell and Diane James, but without doubt Nigel Farage is the best man for the job. "
What twaddle re Farage being best I do not like him nor agree with Ukip but anyone who thought he was man of his word were duped if you resign thats it Milliband and Clegg have. |
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"UKIP have refused Farage' resignation so he will continue to lead them.
In answer to the OP, i'm personally pleased to see Farage will still be leader, but think it would have been better for him to have a break over the summer, and come back to put his name forward for a leadership election in september as he suggested he might have done. There are other good candidates for leader such as Suzanne Evans, Steven Woolfe, Partick O'Flynn, Paul Nuttall, Douglas Carswell and Diane James, but without doubt Nigel Farage is the best man for the job.
What twaddle re Farage being best I do not like him nor agree with Ukip but anyone who thought he was man of his word were duped if you resign thats it Milliband and Clegg have."
He did hand his resignation in, the UKIP executive board have refused to accept his resignation. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"UKIP have refused Farage' resignation so he will continue to lead them.
In answer to the OP, i'm personally pleased to see Farage will still be leader, but think it would have been better for him to have a break over the summer, and come back to put his name forward for a leadership election in september as he suggested he might have done. There are other good candidates for leader such as Suzanne Evans, Steven Woolfe, Partick O'Flynn, Paul Nuttall, Douglas Carswell and Diane James, but without doubt Nigel Farage is the best man for the job.
What twaddle re Farage being best I do not like him nor agree with Ukip but anyone who thought he was man of his word were duped if you resign thats it Milliband and Clegg have.
He did hand his resignation in, the UKIP executive board have refused to accept his resignation. "
His resignation was to the effect that he is resigning and would consider standing for re-selection in September after a summer break. When is a resignation not a resignation? When it's a vanity exercise and to meet the "truth" that he said he would resign if he didn't secure a seat.
You continue to believe he is honourable and truthful. I'll continue to listen to the words and watch the behaviour and judge on that basis.
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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I think he is a highly divisive person and don't believe he offers any personal alternative to the gaffers of established parties. He's not the man of the people he pretends to be. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Quelle surprise.
I think that if you were to look up the dictionary definition of "resign," you might just find that it does not require acceptance.
Folk may not have accepted the implications of the racist scandals in the UKIP party and may have continued to swallow the "honest" Farrage personality but surely this is the death knell for Farrage and his party. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Quelle surprise.
I think that if you were to look up the dictionary definition of "resign," you might just find that it does not require acceptance.
Folk may not have accepted the implications of the racist scandals in the UKIP party and may have continued to swallow the "honest" Farrage personality but surely this is the death knell for Farrage and his party."
It won't be. There is a belief amongst some that he and UKIP are speaking the truth as they want to hear it. That is enough.
I don't think UKIP will do better in the 2020 elections though as the arguments will change after the 2017 EU Referendum. UKIP actually won what they were seeking in this election: the EU Referendum.
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"Ukip are fucked no matter who runs them really. Ukip headquarters round here got their window kicked in and vandalised just before the election.
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By the uneducated no doubt! "
Why would you assume it would be by the uneducated? Was it the uneducated who we're responsible for the student riots? |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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Unfortunately this speaks volumes about UKIP and the fact that they collectively are in fact Nigel Farage. He is UKIP plain and simple and a future without Farage is no future at all.
Have to feel for Cars well now as he had every right to think that being the only elected NO he would be in with a shout at being Leader.
As for Nigel the straight talker? Maybe not anymore... |
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"UKIP have refused Farage' resignation so he will continue to lead them.
In answer to the OP, i'm personally pleased to see Farage will still be leader, but think it would have been better for him to have a break over the summer, and come back to put his name forward for a leadership election in september as he suggested he might have done. There are other good candidates for leader such as Suzanne Evans, Steven Woolfe, Partick O'Flynn, Paul Nuttall, Douglas Carswell and Diane James, but without doubt Nigel Farage is the best man for the job.
What twaddle re Farage being best I do not like him nor agree with Ukip but anyone who thought he was man of his word were duped if you resign thats it Milliband and Clegg have.
He did hand his resignation in, the UKIP executive board have refused to accept his resignation.
His resignation was to the effect that he is resigning and would consider standing for re-selection in September after a summer break. When is a resignation not a resignation? When it's a vanity exercise and to meet the "truth" that he said he would resign if he didn't secure a seat.
You continue to believe he is honourable and truthful. I'll continue to listen to the words and watch the behaviour and judge on that basis.
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He said he would take the summer off and then consider if he would put his name forward in september or not? If his resignation had been accepted he may have decided not to put his name forward in september, with todays developments i guess we will never know now? The SNP have gone from strength to strength under new leadership with Nicola Sturgeon, so no reason why UKIP could'nt (I for one did'nt think they would recover when Alex Salmond stood down but they proved me wrong).
And those comparing Farage to Clegg and Miliband, Farage situation is different. I saw Paul Nuttall on the 6 o clock news earlier saying that UKIP offices had been inundated with phone calls since last friday from party members and supporters asking for Farage to stay on as leader. I doubt Labour or the Lib dems had any phone calls from its supporters asking for Miliband or Clegg to stay on. Labour and Lib dems general election was a failure, but UKIP's was a success when compared to 2010, making great strides forward in terms of vote share, (and thats not even mentioning the UKIP win in the european elections last year). |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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You continue to believe he is honourable and truthful. I'll continue to listen to the words and watch the behaviour and judge on that basis.
He said he would take the summer off and then consider if he would put his name forward in september or not? If his resignation had been accepted he may have decided not to put his name forward in september, with todays developments i guess we will never know now? The SNP have gone from strength to strength under new leadership with Nicola Sturgeon, so no reason why UKIP could'nt (I for one did'nt think they would recover when Alex Salmond stood down but they proved me wrong).
And those comparing Farage to Clegg and Miliband, Farage situation is different. I saw Paul Nuttall on the 6 o clock news earlier saying that UKIP offices had been inundated with phone calls since last friday from party members and supporters asking for Farage to stay on as leader. I doubt Labour or the Lib dems had any phone calls from its supporters asking for Miliband or Clegg to stay on. Labour and Lib dems general election was a failure, but UKIP's was a success when compared to 2010, making great strides forward in terms of vote share, (and thats not even mentioning the UKIP win in the european elections last year). "
A party office inundated with calls asking for the leader to stay. When he does go, as he will at some point, how will you all survive then?
It sounds more like a cult with every comment. |
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You continue to believe he is honourable and truthful. I'll continue to listen to the words and watch the behaviour and judge on that basis.
He said he would take the summer off and then consider if he would put his name forward in september or not? If his resignation had been accepted he may have decided not to put his name forward in september, with todays developments i guess we will never know now? The SNP have gone from strength to strength under new leadership with Nicola Sturgeon, so no reason why UKIP could'nt (I for one did'nt think they would recover when Alex Salmond stood down but they proved me wrong).
And those comparing Farage to Clegg and Miliband, Farage situation is different. I saw Paul Nuttall on the 6 o clock news earlier saying that UKIP offices had been inundated with phone calls since last friday from party members and supporters asking for Farage to stay on as leader. I doubt Labour or the Lib dems had any phone calls from its supporters asking for Miliband or Clegg to stay on. Labour and Lib dems general election was a failure, but UKIP's was a success when compared to 2010, making great strides forward in terms of vote share, (and thats not even mentioning the UKIP win in the european elections last year).
A party office inundated with calls asking for the leader to stay. When he does go, as he will at some point, how will you all survive then?
It sounds more like a cult with every comment. "
I gave a list of other good leadership candidates in a previous post, maybe you missed it?
Yes Farage is a marmite figure, some people love him, some people hate him, but he is liked among UKIP supporters, if they are calling for him to stay why should'nt he? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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You continue to believe he is honourable and truthful. I'll continue to listen to the words and watch the behaviour and judge on that basis.
He said he would take the summer off and then consider if he would put his name forward in september or not? If his resignation had been accepted he may have decided not to put his name forward in september, with todays developments i guess we will never know now? The SNP have gone from strength to strength under new leadership with Nicola Sturgeon, so no reason why UKIP could'nt (I for one did'nt think they would recover when Alex Salmond stood down but they proved me wrong).
And those comparing Farage to Clegg and Miliband, Farage situation is different. I saw Paul Nuttall on the 6 o clock news earlier saying that UKIP offices had been inundated with phone calls since last friday from party members and supporters asking for Farage to stay on as leader. I doubt Labour or the Lib dems had any phone calls from its supporters asking for Miliband or Clegg to stay on. Labour and Lib dems general election was a failure, but UKIP's was a success when compared to 2010, making great strides forward in terms of vote share, (and thats not even mentioning the UKIP win in the european elections last year).
A party office inundated with calls asking for the leader to stay. When he does go, as he will at some point, how will you all survive then?
It sounds more like a cult with every comment.
I gave a list of other good leadership candidates in a previous post, maybe you missed it?
Yes Farage is a marmite figure, some people love him, some people hate him, but he is liked among UKIP supporters, if they are calling for him to stay why should'nt he? "
Because the honourable thing to do is to stick to what you said you would do and allow others to blossom.
I am no UKipper by any stretch of the imagination but I think the party would do well to consider Diane James. She comes across strong and sensible in every inter_iew I have seen her give. Carswell is also a strong speaker and would be a better choice than Farage as he has been elected to be an MP. It's hubris to give a resignation speech that effectively says "unless you ask me to stay" and then stay when the cult followers beg for it.
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"Ukip are fucked no matter who runs them really. Ukip headquarters round here got their window kicked in and vandalised just before the election.
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By the uneducated no doubt!
Why would you assume it would be by the uneducated? Was it the uneducated who we're responsible for the student riots?"
Because an educated person must know violence and criminal damage are not the best way to voice an opinion. I am surprised that needs spelling out.
Student riots? Please don't tell us these were the educated public. If so, they should ask for their fees back as obviously studenting does not work! |
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"Quelle surprise.
I think that if you were to look up the dictionary definition of "resign," you might just find that it does not require acceptance.
Folk may not have accepted the implications of the racist scandals in the UKIP party and may have continued to swallow the "honest" Farrage personality but surely this is the death knell for Farrage and his party.
It won't be. There is a belief amongst some that he and UKIP are speaking the truth as they want to hear it. That is enough.
I don't think UKIP will do better in the 2020 elections though as the arguments will change after the 2017 EU Referendum. UKIP actually won what they were seeking in this election: the EU Referendum.
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From some of the posts, it seems you are right. I find it hard to believe but there you go. |
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I actually sat down with this guy and had a convo with him when he was staying in the same hotel as me.
after, I had completely changed my perception of him and his beliefs to a positive impact on me.
I did also feel very sorry for him when he explained how he missed his family when on the road, and I dont think that people realise what a family man he is.
yes, some of their policies are a bit far fetched, and I think they will be the third party frim now on instead of the liberals, but I don't know if him staying is such a good idea, as the party cannot proof itself that it can survive without him. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I actually sat down with this guy and had a convo with him when he was staying in the same hotel as me.
after, I had completely changed my perception of him and his beliefs to a positive impact on me.
I did also feel very sorry for him when he explained how he missed his family when on the road, and I dont think that people realise what a family man he is.
yes, some of their policies are a bit far fetched, and I think they will be the third party frim now on instead of the liberals, but I don't know if him staying is such a good idea, as the party cannot proof itself that it can survive without him."
I met him many years ago and everything he has done since has confirmed my _iew of him.
Politics is not easy and even harder if you have a family you love. That is not enough reason to vote for someone though.
The third party is the SNP, just by sheer number of seats. UKIP sits with the Greens and other vocal parties with one or two members. They may have strong support now across the country but not enough to influence a government high on its current success. The Tories are in full glory and gloating mode and don't yet need to make deals with any other party to get votes through.
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"Ukip are fucked no matter who runs them really. Ukip headquarters round here got their window kicked in and vandalised just before the election.
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By the uneducated no doubt!
Why would you assume it would be by the uneducated? Was it the uneducated who we're responsible for the student riots?
Because an educated person must know violence and criminal damage are not the best way to voice an opinion. I am surprised that needs spelling out.
Student riots? Please don't tell us these were the educated public. If so, they should ask for their fees back as obviously studenting does not work! "
I googled 'ukip vandalised' coz i wanted to settle this debate by finding out who vandalised the ukip place. In fact there's a fair few stories about vandalism on election stuff round here, and people nicking the wood that the signs were made of. Some rivals posters also had ukip sprayed on them.
No idea who did it anyway so you can elaborate all you want but it's meaningless and guessing, but whoever it was they also sprayed a huge nazi cross on the window as well, i didn't see that so must have been cleaned off.
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"UKIP have refused Farage' resignation so he will continue to lead them.
In answer to the OP, i'm personally pleased to see Farage will still be leader, but think it would have been better for him to have a break over the summer, and come back to put his name forward for a leadership election in september as he suggested he might have done. There are other good candidates for leader such as Suzanne Evans, Steven Woolfe, Partick O'Flynn, Paul Nuttall, Douglas Carswell and Diane James, but without doubt Nigel Farage is the best man for the job. "
He promised he would resign, no matter what weasel words are used to justify his apparent resurrection, you and everyone else rightly assumed he meant it to be final
To claim his party wouldn't allow him to resign is hilarious, are you seriously suggesting he has no choice!
He sold himself, and his party, on the moral high ground of political integrity. We now know that to be as empty a promise as those made by politicians he decried.
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"I actually sat down with this guy and had a convo with him when he was staying in the same hotel as me.
after, I had completely changed my perception of him and his beliefs to a positive impact on me.
I did also feel very sorry for him when he explained how he missed his family when on the road, and I dont think that people realise what a family man he is.
yes, some of their policies are a bit far fetched, and I think they will be the third party frim now on instead of the liberals, but I don't know if him staying is such a good idea, as the party cannot proof itself that it can survive without him.
I met him many years ago and everything he has done since has confirmed my _iew of him.
Politics is not easy and even harder if you have a family you love. That is not enough reason to vote for someone though.
The third party is the SNP, just by sheer number of seats. UKIP sits with the Greens and other vocal parties with one or two members. They may have strong support now across the country but not enough to influence a government high on its current success. The Tories are in full glory and gloating mode and don't yet need to make deals with any other party to get votes through.
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Ukip came 3rd in the national vote share on 12%, SNP only had about 5% share of the overall national vote, no wonder so many people feel dis-engaged or disillusioned with politics these days when so many people don't have a voice. The greens got roughly the same amount of votes as the SNP, only 1 green MP compared to the SNP's 56. |
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The UKIP performed well, but they could not convert the votes into more than one seat, shame. First past the post was always going to be their problem.
I really enjoyed watching the SNP destroy Labour in Scotland. It would have been even better to watch the UKIP give the Labour a battering in the North. |
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"Ukip are fucked no matter who runs them really. Ukip headquarters round here got their window kicked in and vandalised just before the election.
So you are proud to support leftwing Fascist hooligans then?.
left wing Fascists? That's a new one."
The very thought! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I actually sat down with this guy and had a convo with him when he was staying in the same hotel as me.
after, I had completely changed my perception of him and his beliefs to a positive impact on me.
I did also feel very sorry for him when he explained how he missed his family when on the road, and I dont think that people realise what a family man he is.
yes, some of their policies are a bit far fetched, and I think they will be the third party frim now on instead of the liberals, but I don't know if him staying is such a good idea, as the party cannot proof itself that it can survive without him.
I met him many years ago and everything he has done since has confirmed my _iew of him.
Politics is not easy and even harder if you have a family you love. That is not enough reason to vote for someone though.
The third party is the SNP, just by sheer number of seats. UKIP sits with the Greens and other vocal parties with one or two members. They may have strong support now across the country but not enough to influence a government high on its current success. The Tories are in full glory and gloating mode and don't yet need to make deals with any other party to get votes through.
Ukip came 3rd in the national vote share on 12%, SNP only had about 5% share of the overall national vote, no wonder so many people feel dis-engaged or disillusioned with politics these days when so many people don't have a voice. The greens got roughly the same amount of votes as the SNP, only 1 green MP compared to the SNP's 56."
Did you vote for AV during that referendum? The country didn't so first past the post is the system and the influence is in the House of Commons. It matters not how many times you say UKIP are the third largest by vote they are NOT in parliament. I am not politically unaware and I know the share of votes.
I just find it funny now that people who probably didn't vote to change the system complain about the system.
When the EU Referendum goes the same way and things stay the same no doubt there will be another complaint.
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