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""So an EU referemdum in 3 years? The forums will be kicking off! " Yep, we'll have a referendum and if we the people decide to remain as part of Europe it won't stop the call for us to leave. Isn't that what referenda shows us?" Indeed, nothing seems to get settled these days. | |||
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"maybe we should also ask who is going to be the next leader of labour and the lib dems... because they won't be able to stay... " Labour: the right brother this time? The trouble with Labour is they are fast becoming the party of the Public Sector Unions, in a period of shrinking Public Sector. | |||
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"Chuka Umunna for Labour leader and Tim Fallon for Lib Dems. Who will lead UKIP though? " Do you think Farage hasn't won? | |||
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"Chuka Umunna for Labour leader and Tim Fallon for Lib Dems. Who will lead UKIP though? Do you think Farage hasn't won? " I think Carswell will hold his dubious seat, I don't think Reckless won't hold his. The second seat will be Oop North and Farage will come second. | |||
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"Second exit poll with much lower figures..." Yougov in Telegraph , Conservative 284 Labour 263 Liberals 31 SNP 48, UKIP 2, Plaid 3, Green 1 May have to wait after all... | |||
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"i think we should start with the exit poll to bring people up to speed... the exit poll suggest that conservatives will win 316 seats.... labour 239, SNP 58, Lib Dems 10, Plaid 4, UKIP 2 and Greens 2... with 19 for other parties which includes all the parties in north ireland... that "technically" leaves the tories 10 short of an over majority at 326... however because speaker doesn't vote.. and sinn fein dont take up their seats in the commons.. they may only need 323... the conservative may do a deal with the unionist DUP in northern ireland... and UKIP on a vote by vote "supply" deal... which means they would have enough to form a minority government one slight thing with regards to an EU referendum vote... they will need the vote thru the commons first.... the DUP don't support a referendum....... none of the parties in northern ireland do because they are net beneficaries...... " But there are probably just enough independent backbenchers who would vote for a referendum. Unless they are whipped, of course. | |||
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"Second exit poll with much lower figures... Yougov in Telegraph , Conservative 284 Labour 263 Liberals 31 SNP 48, UKIP 2, Plaid 3, Green 1 May have to wait after all..." I'll wait for the Last Leg piggy race results. | |||
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"i think we should start with the exit poll to bring people up to speed... the exit poll suggest that conservatives will win 316 seats.... labour 239, SNP 58, Lib Dems 10, Plaid 4, UKIP 2 and Greens 2... with 19 for other parties which includes all the parties in north ireland... that "technically" leaves the tories 10 short of an over majority at 326... however because speaker doesn't vote.. and sinn fein dont take up their seats in the commons.. they may only need 323... the conservative may do a deal with the unionist DUP in northern ireland... and UKIP on a vote by vote "supply" deal... which means they would have enough to form a minority government one slight thing with regards to an EU referendum vote... they will need the vote thru the commons first.... the DUP don't support a referendum....... none of the parties in northern ireland do because they are net beneficaries...... " Last I knew the DUP were in support of a referendum but that may have changed. | |||
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"Second exit poll with much lower figures..." the yougov exit poll is more interesting... because the numbers in that one would suggest milliband would have enough seats to be next pm... that would so much more fun and games.... | |||
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" Come on Bristol gimme some lovin "Which Bristol seat is it? We used to be down there | |||
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"Second exit poll with much lower figures... the yougov exit poll is more interesting... because the numbers in that one would suggest milliband would have enough seats to be next pm... that would so much more fun and games...." And I'd still be on course to win my bet. (Except no-one took me up on it, grrrr) | |||
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" One argument against a referendum is cost. So why not a third voting slip today? The marginal cost couldn't be much. Would increase turnout and democraccy. Could have it every year, at Council elections, with issues of the day." I have been arguing that if we are to have a referendum it should be at the same time as other elections. The costs of running an election are HUGE! | |||
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"Second exit poll with much lower figures... the yougov exit poll is more interesting... because the numbers in that one would suggest milliband would have enough seats to be next pm... that would so much more fun and games...." I've settled on a Tory majority now - let the people feel the full effects. | |||
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" Come on Bristol gimme some lovin
Which Bristol seat is it? We used to be down there". West. I've personally put 2000 fucking posters up.... If we don't friggin win I've got to take them down and recycle them!!! Feckin green splitters | |||
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" Come on Bristol gimme some lovin
Which Bristol seat is it? We used to be down there"bristol west..... the exit poll have them winning, the yougov poll has labour winning it.... it is going to be super close.... | |||
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"snp 1 to 2 million votes=58 seats ukip 3to 4 million votes= 2 seats democracy ?" Yes, if you don't win your seat then you can't take it. There isn't just one type of democracy. | |||
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" Come on Bristol gimme some lovin
Which Bristol seat is it? We used to be down there.
West.
I've personally put 2000 fucking posters up.... If we don't friggin win I've got to take them down and recycle them!!!
Feckin green splitters "What d'ya mean IF? You're not telling us that if you do win, they can stay up another five years, surely not. | |||
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"Second exit poll with much lower figures... the yougov exit poll is more interesting... because the numbers in that one would suggest milliband would have enough seats to be next pm... that would so much more fun and games.... I've settled on a Tory majority now - let the people feel the full effects. " trying to do some numbers using the yougov figures and who will work with who.... tories could get there with the lib dems and the DUP... labour could get there with the Lib dems, with a "confidence/supply" agreement with the snp | |||
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" Come on Bristol gimme some lovin
Which Bristol seat is it? We used to be down there.
West.
I've personally put 2000 fucking posters up.... If we don't friggin win I've got to take them down and recycle them!!!
Feckin green splitters "Ooh, William Waldegrave in our day. We were North west, Michael Stern with a 52 majority. Can't see the Liberals holding it, so good luck | |||
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"snp 1 to 2 million votes=58 seats ukip 3to 4 million votes= 2 seats democracy ?" Split across different parts of the country. Yes, that's democracy unless you suggest that people don't stand for specific seats but just get to pick where they represent on the basis of the country-wide vote. | |||
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"snp 1 to 2 million votes=58 seats ukip 3to 4 million votes= 2 seats democracy ?" Hmmm does seem rather disproportionate doesn't it. As for the exit polls, going by the one the BBC (British broadcasting corporation - not big black cock) are using indicates that another Con/Lib Dem co-alition could be on the cards | |||
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"Sunderland votes in" Of course! They run. | |||
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"snp 1 to 2 million votes=58 seats ukip 3to 4 million votes= 2 seats democracy ?" welcome to "first past the post!".... now if you'd like to sign the electoral reform petition... which we have only had going for the past 20 years... i'll hapily point you in the direction of it..... | |||
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"Second exit poll with much lower figures... the yougov exit poll is more interesting... because the numbers in that one would suggest milliband would have enough seats to be next pm... that would so much more fun and games.... I've settled on a Tory majority now - let the people feel the full effects. trying to do some numbers using the yougov figures and who will work with who.... tories could get there with the lib dems and the DUP... labour could get there with the Lib dems, with a "confidence/supply" agreement with the snp" the Lib Dems wouldn't work with the DUP I want a Tory government now - let the people have it!
The first sign of a Tory voter complaining and I'll slap them with a wet fish or an EU flag. | |||
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"snp 1 to 2 million votes=58 seats ukip 3to 4 million votes= 2 seats democracy ? Split across different parts of the country. Yes, that's democracy unless you suggest that people don't stand for specific seats but just get to pick where they represent on the basis of the country-wide vote. " In hindsight it would have been more equal, and fairer, to split the 58 SNP candidates throughout the rest of the UK. At random. | |||
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" Come on Bristol gimme some lovin
Which Bristol seat is it? We used to be down there.
West.
I've personally put 2000 fucking posters up.... If we don't friggin win I've got to take them down and recycle them!!!
Feckin green splitters
Ooh, William Waldegrave in our day.
We were North west, Michael Stern with a 52 majority.
Can't see the Liberals holding it, so good luck"First general election I was old enough to vote in saw William Waldegrave go. I celebrated by staying up all night eating pringles and drinking cider with my flatmates, watching result after result come in. | |||
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"snp 1 to 2 million votes=58 seats ukip 3to 4 million votes= 2 seats democracy ? Split across different parts of the country. Yes, that's democracy unless you suggest that people don't stand for specific seats but just get to pick where they represent on the basis of the country-wide vote. In hindsight it would have been more equal, and fairer, to split the 58 SNP candidates throughout the rest of the UK. At random. " If some in England could have voted SNP I think they would have following Sturgeon's performance. Paxman described them as the Obi Wan of politics. What other party has turned a defeat into such as success? | |||
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"snp 1 to 2 million votes=58 seats ukip 3to 4 million votes= 2 seats democracy ? Split across different parts of the country. Yes, that's democracy unless you suggest that people don't stand for specific seats but just get to pick where they represent on the basis of the country-wide vote. In hindsight it would have been more equal, and fairer, to split the 58 SNP candidates throughout the rest of the UK. At random. " Who says Nicola won't drop the 'Scottish' and put up candidates in a few northern English cities next time? That would have a few Daily Mail readers spluttering! Alternatively, it looks like Labour may have a vacancy... | |||
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"When I went to vote earlier this evening, in the foyer of the polling station, there were people checking off our cards ... Are these people doing basic polling and counting of attendance or statistics ? Also one of them had a party rosette on the table in front of him
Is that undue influence ? "In the polling station area or outside? They are allowed outside but are not allowed to ask what you will vote. They can ask, and you can refuse, what you have voted as you exit. Parties often try and get a sense of what the local turnout is in each area for their predictions of how they have done. A low turnout can work for some parties and not others. | |||
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" First general election I was old enough to vote in saw William Waldegrave go. I celebrated by staying up all night eating pringles and drinking cider with my flatmates, watching result after result come in."He canvassed Mrs ddc when she was in Halls of Residence apparently | |||
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"When I went to vote earlier this evening, in the foyer of the polling station, there were people checking off our cards ... Are these people doing basic polling and counting of attendance or statistics ? Also one of them had a party rosette on the table in front of him
Is that undue influence ? "These are people from parties, they have no right to ask for your information and you don't have to give it to them. They all do it, of course. | |||
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"I vote UKIP!!!!!! ..... "Why? I'm genuinely interested why you have. | |||
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" First general election I was old enough to vote in saw William Waldegrave go. I celebrated by staying up all night eating pringles and drinking cider with my flatmates, watching result after result come in.
He canvassed Mrs ddc when she was in Halls of Residence apparently"Yes, got to see me wrapped in towel after shower and brushing my teeth (no, I wasn't expecting him, lol!) I believe this was the year he got in with a 50 or so majority. Mrs DDC | |||
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" Come on Bristol gimme some lovin
Which Bristol seat is it? We used to be down there.
West.
I've personally put 2000 fucking posters up.... If we don't friggin win I've got to take them down and recycle them!!!
Feckin green splitters
Ooh, William Waldegrave in our day.
We were North west, Michael Stern with a 52 majority.
Can't see the Liberals holding it, so good luck". I'm sat in the hall, were all feeling confident.... Or should I say d*unk | |||
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"When I went to vote earlier this evening, in the foyer of the polling station, there were people checking off our cards ... Are these people doing basic polling and counting of attendance or statistics ? Also one of them had a party rosette on the table in front of him
Is that undue influence ?
These are people from parties, they have no right to ask for your information and you don't have to give it to them.
They all do it, of course."Thought so ... But do they have the right to "campaign" at the station ? | |||
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" If some in England could have voted SNP I think they would have following Sturgeon's performance. Paxman described them as the Obi Wan of politics. What other party has turned a defeat into such as success? " They have pulled a blinder | |||
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" Come on Bristol gimme some lovin
Which Bristol seat is it? We used to be down there.
West.
I've personally put 2000 fucking posters up.... If we don't friggin win I've got to take them down and recycle them!!!
Feckin green splitters
Ooh, William Waldegrave in our day.
We were North west, Michael Stern with a 52 majority.
Can't see the Liberals holding it, so good luck.
I'm sat in the hall, were all feeling confident.... Or should I say d*unk " | |||
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"I vote UKIP!!!!!! .....
Why? I'm genuinely interested why you have.
"^lol I haven't. It's just this thread is far too polite at the moment. | |||
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"So many people detest UKIP... I guess I've always been against the grain?
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"So many people detest UKIP... I guess I've always been against the grain?
"I don't detest them. But equally I haven't voted for them either. It's just the mere utterence of UKIP on here gets people going. | |||
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"So many people detest UKIP... I guess I've always been against the grain?
"Not really lone ranger
A lot of people love them. | |||
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" If some in England could have voted SNP I think they would have following Sturgeon's performance. Paxman described them as the Obi Wan of politics. What other party has turned a defeat into such as success? Credit to Nicola Sturgeon she has done well with here campaign Next she will ballot for independence, wont be able to cope financially then come to the UK for foreign aid, While she lives the life. They have pulled a blinder " | |||
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"I vote UKIP!!!!!! .....
Why? I'm genuinely interested why you have.
^lol I haven't.
It's just this thread is far too polite at the moment. "I'm pretty sure that will change later on | |||
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" Hey Sexybum If the Greens do win a seat in Bristol, how about using them as a guinea-pig for their policies and see if it catches on. eg turn off all devices powered by fossil fuels, ie heating, lighting and transport and see if you still want Green policies. Oh, and meet the extra costs out of Bristol West's council tax precept. Thanks." . Were currently producing 15% of power from renewable sources thanks to campaigns from the green parties. That aside we've personally spent 30k on our house to lower gas electric and water usage.... So yeah I put my money where my mouth and my heart is! PS I walked to the city hall 3 miles and I'll be staggering home zig zagging probably 6 miles | |||
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" Hey Sexybum If the Greens do win a seat in Bristol, how about using them as a guinea-pig for their policies and see if it catches on. eg turn off all devices powered by fossil fuels, ie heating, lighting and transport and see if you still want Green policies. Oh, and meet the extra costs out of Bristol West's council tax precept. Thanks.. Were currently producing 15% of power from renewable sources thanks to campaigns from the green parties. That aside we've personally spent 30k on our house to lower gas electric and water usage.... So yeah I put my money where my mouth and my heart is! PS I walked to the city hall 3 miles and I'll be staggering home zig zagging probably 6 miles "Ok, Ok, i'll settle for your party turning the other 85% off. Good on you, the vast majority though will not want to make any personal sacrifices regardless of who they will vote for. | |||
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"Big votes for UKIP in the first 2 seats, it could be that they poll a decent % of the vote while only winning a couple of seats." The Lib Dems won nearly 25% of the votes in 2010 but got about 8% of the seats. That's the FPTP system. | |||
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"Big votes for UKIP in the first 2 seats, it could be that they poll a decent % of the vote while only winning a couple of seats. The Lib Dems won nearly 25% of the votes in 2010 but got about 8% of the seats. That's the FPTP system. " I wonder if we will ever change it?? I doubt it. | |||
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"Big votes for UKIP in the first 2 seats, it could be that they poll a decent % of the vote while only winning a couple of seats. The Lib Dems won nearly 25% of the votes in 2010 but got about 8% of the seats. That's the FPTP system. " Ah well, i expect it'll be much more equitable this time around. Say 5% and 1%. That's an educated electorate for you, thanks Nick 
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"My favourite bit of election night is when results are declared and they have to read out things like Labour 19,882, Conservative, 7,478, Lib Dem, 1,992, I Like Milk More Than I Like France Party 6. " Disappointed none of the results in yet have had a candidate on the stage in a comedy outfit
Couple of rumours doing the rounds are Ed Balls to have lost his seat and Farage to come third in Thurrock. Still think we are in for a few twists and turns. | |||
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"I liked the guys sprinting like mad in Sunderland with the boxes then shot to my local leisure centre where they're counting and everyone was laughing and just taking their time like! " At double time, on public money, with a day off in lieu, wouldn't you? It's not unlike a bus transfer at the airport, none of you can leave until the last one is on. Hey Sunderland simplify it, have multiple boxes for the Labour vote, and a single rubbish bin for the others? | |||
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"Couple of rumours doing the rounds are Ed Balls to have lost his seat and Farage to come third in Thurrock. Still think we are in for a few twists and turns." Balls out? | |||
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"My favourite bit of election night is when results are declared and they have to read out things like Labour 19,882, Conservative, 7,478, Lib Dem, 1,992, I Like Milk More Than I Like France Party 6. Disappointed none of the results in yet have had a candidate on the stage in a comedy outfit
Couple of rumours doing the rounds are Ed Balls to have lost his seat and Farage to come third in Thurrock. Still think we are in for a few twists and turns."Well done Morley if that's the case. That's the price of not being able to park your car safely Balls, twat. | |||
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"Labour forecast to lose 19 seats Tory's to gain 9 seats. Have the polls been that wrong ? " Does the 19 not include Scotland | |||
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"Couple of rumours doing the rounds are Ed Balls to have lost his seat and Farage to come third in Thurrock. Still think we are in for a few twists and turns. Balls out? "Balls to the wall! | |||
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"Couple of rumours doing the rounds are Ed Balls to have lost his seat and Farage to come third in Thurrock. Still think we are in for a few twists and turns. Balls out?
Balls to the wall!"Balls up. | |||
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"maybe we should also ask who is going to be the next leader of labour and the lib dems... because they won't be able to stay... Labour: the right brother this time? The trouble with Labour is they are fast becoming the party of the Public Sector Unions, in a period of shrinking Public Sector." Because the fecking Torys have shrunk it! | |||
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"The Last Leg has a leg swingometer. David Hameron and Pig Clegg the only piggies to make it over the line. "Perhaps UKIP missed a trick. lol Free Bacon sarnies for all eligible voters. | |||
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" Hey Sexybum If the Greens do win a seat in Bristol, how about using them as a guinea-pig for their policies and see if it catches on. eg turn off all devices powered by fossil fuels, ie heating, lighting and transport and see if you still want Green policies. Oh, and meet the extra costs out of Bristol West's council tax precept. Thanks.. Were currently producing 15% of power from renewable sources thanks to campaigns from the green parties. That aside we've personally spent 30k on our house to lower gas electric and water usage.... So yeah I put my money where my mouth and my heart is! PS I walked to the city hall 3 miles and I'll be staggering home zig zagging probably 6 miles
Ok, Ok, i'll settle for your party turning the other 85% off.
Good on you, the vast majority though will not want to make any personal sacrifices regardless of who they will vote for.
". That's politics! What do you want me to do declare that I'd prefer dictatorship for the people not by the people. You know Attila the hun said It's easier to criticise the actions of others than stand by your own | |||
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" You know Attila the hun said It's easier to criticise the actions of others than stand by your own "I never cease to be amazed how these historical foreigners had a good command of the English language. | |||
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" You know Attila the hun said It's easier to criticise the actions of others than stand by your own
I never cease to be amazed how these historical foreigners had a good command of the English language. ". Obviously he said it in mumbo jumbo on bongo drums no my mistake that's just ukip revisionist history | |||
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" The losers are ..the UK population. " How do you work that out? Surely the results reflect the views of the majority of the population. Apart from those who don't bother to vote - but of course the answer to that one is obvious. It's just like saying the the Scots lost out in the referendum last year. | |||
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" The losers are ..the UK population. How do you work that out? Surely the results reflect the views of the majority of the population. Apart from those who don't bother to vote - but of course the answer to that one is obvious. It's just like saying the the Scots lost out in the referendum last year." Simply because what we, ordinary people want and vote for, isn't what we get. In any case,for eg how do you reconcile the two parents, one who wants to get their child into the school across the road, together with their siblings, with the pushy parent who lives 10 miles away, cheats to get their precious into that school instead. I seriously doubt that the "out of catchments" are the majority. Which politicians made that stupid f*cking rule in the first place. Aside from Labour, the biggest fuck up and con in my lifetime was the 1974 re-organisation. Did the electorate vote for that? Ever get the chance to? | |||
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"When do we get the official results? " Depends where you live. We got ours in 1997... (Tory hold) | |||
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"When do we get the official results? Depends where you live. We got ours in 1997... (Tory hold)" ffs it's too late for this kind of shit. | |||
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" In all seriousness, i wonder how well an English National Party would do? " I don't think there is any comparison to be made between Scottish and English nationalism, they're fundamentally different to me. | |||
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"Cmon oor nicola and snp lets take all 59 seats " | |||
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"Cmon oor nicola and snp lets take all 59 seats " | |||
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"I vote UKIP!!!!!! .....
Why? I'm genuinely interested why you have.
"I voted UKIP today, and there are many reasons why, here's just a few of them..... 1. I'd like to see Britain exit the EU, or at the very least we get a free and fair in/out referendum. 2. Scrap HS2 3. I'd like to see the UK have an australian style points based immigration system, and immigration reduced down to the tens of thousands not the 300,000 per year we are now currently getting. 4. New and better trade deals with countries outside of the EU. 5. Cut foreign aid, or transfer that money to maintain 2% of spending on our armed services instead. Looking at the exit poll on sky news i'll be happy if it turns out to be accurate, just hope Cameron keeps his promise on an EU referendum, and does'nt try to slimeball his way out of it somewhere down the line. Interesting that UKIP came 2nd to Labour in 2 of the northern results already, looking increasingly likely that UKIP will become the real opposition to Labour in many Labour held seats. Still confident UKIP will win around 5 seats, instead of the 2 the exit poll suggested. | |||
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" Again in all seriousness, one thing i wish they would stop is the defection of an elected MP to represent another party. They should at least stand down, as Carswell did, and try get re-elected. Whoever the local candidate, the vast majority of people vote for a Party. " I agree, Mark Reckless did the same as Carswell, and stood for re-election too. | |||
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"I vote UKIP!!!!!! .....
Why? I'm genuinely interested why you have.
I voted UKIP today, and there are many reasons why, here's just a few of them.....
1. I'd like to see Britain exit the EU, or at the very least we get a free and fair in/out referendum.
2. Scrap HS2
3. I'd like to see the UK have an australian style points based immigration system, and immigration reduced down to the tens of thousands not the 300,000 per year we are now currently getting.
4. New and better trade deals with countries outside of the EU.
5. Cut foreign aid, or transfer that money to maintain 2% of spending on our armed services instead.
Looking at the exit poll on sky news i'll be happy if it turns out to be accurate, just hope Cameron keeps his promise on an EU referendum, and does'nt try to slimeball his way out of it somewhere down the line.
Interesting that UKIP came 2nd to Labour in 2 of the northern results already, looking increasingly likely that UKIP will become the real opposition to Labour in many Labour held seats. Still confident UKIP will win around 5 seats, instead of the 2 the exit poll suggested. "I knew you had voted UKIP and your reasons - I've read them for the last year. Thumper was a surprise. | |||
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" Again in all seriousness, one thing i wish they would stop is the defection of an elected MP to represent another party. They should at least stand down, as Carswell did, and try get re-elected. Whoever the local candidate, the vast majority of people vote for a Party. I agree, Mark Reckless did the same as Carswell, and stood for re-election too. "And both could have waited six months and save the expense. | |||
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"I vote UKIP!!!!!! .....
Why? I'm genuinely interested why you have.
I voted UKIP today, and there are many reasons why, here's just a few of them.....
1. I'd like to see Britain exit the EU, or at the very least we get a free and fair in/out referendum.
2. Scrap HS2
3. I'd like to see the UK have an australian style points based immigration system, and immigration reduced down to the tens of thousands not the 300,000 per year we are now currently getting.
4. New and better trade deals with countries outside of the EU.
5. Cut foreign aid, or transfer that money to maintain 2% of spending on our armed services instead.
Looking at the exit poll on sky news i'll be happy if it turns out to be accurate, just hope Cameron keeps his promise on an EU referendum, and does'nt try to slimeball his way out of it somewhere down the line.
Interesting that UKIP came 2nd to Labour in 2 of the northern results already, looking increasingly likely that UKIP will become the real opposition to Labour in many Labour held seats. Still confident UKIP will win around 5 seats, instead of the 2 the exit poll suggested. "I don't think UKIP will get more than the 2 seats predicted, but will gain a higher share of the vote than expected. Lib Dems as I predicted months ago look like being obliterated. It could be an interesting few hours, there are a number of scenarios that could play out. | |||
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" Again in all seriousness, one thing i wish they would stop is the defection of an elected MP to represent another party. They should at least stand down, as Carswell did, and try get re-elected. Whoever the local candidate, the vast majority of people vote for a Party. I agree, Mark Reckless did the same as Carswell, and stood for re-election too.
And both could have waited six months and save the expense.
"Could have, but it was good PR for UKIP, bet other smaller parties wish they could have pulled off the same thing, was a smart move by Farage, Carswell and Reckless to keep them in the public eye/news. | |||
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"I'm sticking with my prediction of a few days ago. I may have to stop watching and try and sleep or I'll look really old on Saturday. Alistair Campbell on Ch4 now though." You will look stunning!
The mad professor guy who is in charge of the exit poll is saying don't rule out a higher number of seats, and maybe even a Tory majority based on the first few result that have come in. Going to stay up a bit longer to see how it is looking like going. | |||
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"I've switched to the Beeb now Andrew Neil isn't on. I may have to give up soon. Do I win anything if my prediction on the prediction thread is correct? " I'm increasingly thinking the Tories will win a majority so you will be half right! But my prediction was hopelessly wrong. I thought that the move to the left by Labour would have helped secure more votes and it looks like I was wrong. | |||
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"I've switched to the Beeb now Andrew Neil isn't on. I may have to give up soon. Do I win anything if my prediction on the prediction thread is correct? I'm increasingly thinking the Tories will win a majority so you will be half right! But my prediction was hopelessly wrong. I thought that the move to the left by Labour would have helped secure more votes and it looks like I was wrong." Douglas Alexander lost his seat - a Portillo moment. | |||
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" Douglas Alexander lost his seat - a Portillo moment. " To a 20yr old student | |||
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"I've switched to the Beeb now Andrew Neil isn't on. I may have to give up soon. Do I win anything if my prediction on the prediction thread is correct? I'm increasingly thinking the Tories will win a majority so you will be half right! But my prediction was hopelessly wrong. I thought that the move to the left by Labour would have helped secure more votes and it looks like I was wrong. Douglas Alexander lost his seat - a Portillo moment. " During the IndyRef Labour was partially biting the hand that was feeding it - they are now paying the price. | |||
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"I've switched to the Beeb now Andrew Neil isn't on. I may have to give up soon. Do I win anything if my prediction on the prediction thread is correct? I'm increasingly thinking the Tories will win a majority so you will be half right! But my prediction was hopelessly wrong. I thought that the move to the left by Labour would have helped secure more votes and it looks like I was wrong. Douglas Alexander lost his seat - a Portillo moment. " A gracious speech in defeat. I think we may see more big names in trouble. Balls, Clegg, Cable, the other Alexander, all looking very vulnerable. | |||
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" Douglas Alexander lost his seat - a Portillo moment. To a 20yr old student" Good to see a young person getting into parliament though. | |||
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"I've switched to the Beeb now Andrew Neil isn't on. I may have to give up soon. Do I win anything if my prediction on the prediction thread is correct? I'm increasingly thinking the Tories will win a majority so you will be half right! But my prediction was hopelessly wrong. I thought that the move to the left by Labour would have helped secure more votes and it looks like I was wrong. Douglas Alexander lost his seat - a Portillo moment. A gracious speech in defeat. I think we may see more big names in trouble. Balls, Clegg, Cable, the other Alexander, all looking very vulnerable." Danny Alexander has lost his seat i've read. | |||
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"I've switched to the Beeb now Andrew Neil isn't on. I may have to give up soon. Do I win anything if my prediction on the prediction thread is correct? I'm increasingly thinking the Tories will win a majority so you will be half right! But my prediction was hopelessly wrong. I thought that the move to the left by Labour would have helped secure more votes and it looks like I was wrong. Douglas Alexander lost his seat - a Portillo moment. A gracious speech in defeat. I think we may see more big names in trouble. Balls, Clegg, Cable, the other Alexander, all looking very vulnerable." I would expect nothing but gracious from him. Bugger, I'm being suckered in because of the potential of more Portillo moments. | |||
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" Bugger, I'm being suckered in because of the potential of more Portillo moments." Stay up a while LicketyLick
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"I've switched to the Beeb now Andrew Neil isn't on. I may have to give up soon. Do I win anything if my prediction on the prediction thread is correct? I'm increasingly thinking the Tories will win a majority so you will be half right! But my prediction was hopelessly wrong. I thought that the move to the left by Labour would have helped secure more votes and it looks like I was wrong. Douglas Alexander lost his seat - a Portillo moment. A gracious speech in defeat. I think we may see more big names in trouble. Balls, Clegg, Cable, the other Alexander, all looking very vulnerable. I would expect nothing but gracious from him. Bugger, I'm being suckered in because of the potential of more Portillo moments." He will be a big loss to Labour, and a loss to the country as he is one of the good guys. And as for you staying up, I knew you wouldn't be able to resist! | |||
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"I've switched to the Beeb now Andrew Neil isn't on. I may have to give up soon. Do I win anything if my prediction on the prediction thread is correct? I'm increasingly thinking the Tories will win a majority so you will be half right! But my prediction was hopelessly wrong. I thought that the move to the left by Labour would have helped secure more votes and it looks like I was wrong. Douglas Alexander lost his seat - a Portillo moment. A gracious speech in defeat. I think we may see more big names in trouble. Balls, Clegg, Cable, the other Alexander, all looking very vulnerable. I would expect nothing but gracious from him. Bugger, I'm being suckered in because of the potential of more Portillo moments." Charles Kennedy will be another one. | |||
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"Totall wipeout for labour in scotland " | |||
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" Douglas Alexander lost his seat - a Portillo moment. To a 20yr old student Good to see a young person getting into parliament though. " youngest ever MP | |||
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"Totall wipeout for labour in scotland "I'm actually really surprised by this, and the size of some of the majorities/swings is even more surprising. | |||
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"Totall wipeout for labour in scotland
I'm actually really surprised by this, and the size of some of the majorities/swings is even more surprising."Spotlight is on Jim Murphy on sky news now, his result coming up soon. | |||
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"Totall wipeout for labour in scotland
I'm actually really surprised by this, and the size of some of the majorities/swings is even more surprising.
Spotlight is on Jim Murphy on sky news now, his result coming up soon."And he's out. | |||
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"Totall wipeout for labour in scotland
I'm actually really surprised by this, and the size of some of the majorities/swings is even more surprising.
Spotlight is on Jim Murphy on sky news now, his result coming up soon."And it wasnt good news for him... | |||
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"Increased Tory majority in seats. Jim Murphy losing his seat will trigger another leadership vote in Scotland but who will be left?" Labours policy is that the Scottish leader must be an MP/MSP, but the noises up here are that he will be staying (not sure how) and rumours of him having consulted a lawyer regarding this. Also stories that Scottish labour might break away from UK labour to become a separate party. | |||
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"Increased Tory majority in seats. Jim Murphy losing his seat will trigger another leadership vote in Scotland but who will be left?" No one, they will have to pluck someone from the Scottish assembly, or keep Murphy and hope he can find a way back. Another good politician and a great speech again. | |||
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"Increased Tory majority in seats. Jim Murphy losing his seat will trigger another leadership vote in Scotland but who will be left? Labours policy is that the Scottish leader must be an MP/MSP, but the noises up here are that he will be staying (not sure how) and rumours of him having consulted a lawyer regarding this. Also stories that Scottish labour might break away from UK labour to become a separate party." Well he did just announce in his speech that he was staying. Or I think he did...its getting late... | |||
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"Increased Tory majority in seats. Jim Murphy losing his seat will trigger another leadership vote in Scotland but who will be left?" Margaret Curran has gone too. | |||
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(I really really really wish I'd booked a day of work tomorrow, and I've d*unk too much red bull to sleep )
If local experience anything to go by, Lib Dems being punished in the locals quite significantly this year too. | |||
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"I've been locked in a count since 10pm, what did I miss? (I really really really wish I'd booked a day of work tomorrow, and I've d*unk too much red bull to sleep )
If local experience anything to go by, Lib Dems being punished in the locals quite significantly this year too. "Can I have a swig of your Red Bull please because Im wilting a bit here... | |||
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"I've been locked in a count since 10pm, what did I miss? (I really really really wish I'd booked a day of work tomorrow, and I've d*unk too much red bull to sleep )
If local experience anything to go by, Lib Dems being punished in the locals quite significantly this year too. "Lib dems being wiped out all over and Labour being wiped out in Scotland, suprised if Clegg and Miliband are still leaders tomorrow? | |||
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" I thought that the move to the left by Labour would have helped secure more votes and it looks like I was wrong." But isn't that the issue? Too left-wing for England, too right-wing for Scotland. Interesting results coming from Wales too | |||
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"Increased Tory majority in seats. Jim Murphy losing his seat will trigger another leadership vote in Scotland but who will be left? Margaret Curran has gone too. " And Ian Davidson, some honest comments from him regarding their campaign in Scotland, also first to unsheath his knife saying Jim Murphys position "is untenable" | |||
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"I've been locked in a count since 10pm, what did I miss? (I really really really wish I'd booked a day of work tomorrow, and I've d*unk too much red bull to sleep )
If local experience anything to go by, Lib Dems being punished in the locals quite significantly this year too.
Can I have a swig of your Red Bull please because Im wilting a bit here... "Sending my leftover cans your way | |||
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"I've been locked in a count since 10pm, what did I miss? (I really really really wish I'd booked a day of work tomorrow, and I've d*unk too much red bull to sleep )
If local experience anything to go by, Lib Dems being punished in the locals quite significantly this year too.
Lib dems being wiped out all over and Labour being wiped out in Scotland, suprised if Clegg and Miliband are still leaders tomorrow? "I've already looked on William hill to put a bet on it...alas it wasn't on offer  | |||
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" I thought that the move to the left by Labour would have helped secure more votes and it looks like I was wrong. But isn't that the issue? Too left-wing for England, too right-wing for Scotland. Interesting results coming from Wales too" More blue on that map of Wales than I'd ever expect to see, but then some of it could be English bits I'm not that hot on geography | |||
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"So looking at the forecasts on the Beeb....projecting SNP gain 53 and Labour lose 19. So does that imply Labour actually didn't do so badly in England? Because who the heck else have the SNP got those seats from in Scotland, were there many Lib Dem or Conservative seats there before? " Yes Anna, SNP taking seats from Labour and Lib dems in scotland. SNP already had 6 MP's from 2010 to begin with. | |||
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"So looking at the forecasts on the Beeb....projecting SNP gain 53 and Labour lose 19. So does that imply Labour actually didn't do so badly in England? Because who the heck else have the SNP got those seats from in Scotland, were there many Lib Dem or Conservative seats there before? Yes Anna, SNP taking seats from Labour and Lib dems in scotland. SNP already had 6 MP's from 2010 to begin with. " But for them to get to a projected gain (realise this is just forecasts) of 50 odd while labour are losing about 19/20 overall, to me implies Labour have taken quite a few in England (I guess from Lib Dems). So they haven't done as badly in England as they might have. Actually, fuck it, my brain is tired. However one last thing from me, a party which has criticised career politicians as people who have never done anything with their lives except politics, have elected a 20 year old politics student who hasn't even sat her final exams. Good luck to her, but howay  | |||
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"So looking at the forecasts on the Beeb....projecting SNP gain 53 and Labour lose 19. So does that imply Labour actually didn't do so badly in England? Because who the heck else have the SNP got those seats from in Scotland, were there many Lib Dem or Conservative seats there before? Yes Anna, SNP taking seats from Labour and Lib dems in scotland. SNP already had 6 MP's from 2010 to begin with. But for them to get to a projected gain (realise this is just forecasts) of 50 odd while labour are losing about 19/20 overall, to me implies Labour have taken quite a few in England (I guess from Lib Dems). So they haven't done as badly in England as they might have. Actually, fuck it, my brain is tired. However one last thing from me, a party which has criticised career politicians as people who have never done anything with their lives except politics, have elected a 20 year old politics student who hasn't even sat her final exams. Good luck to her, but howay "Labour had 41, 11 for Lib dems, SNP 6 and 1 for the tories | |||
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"So looking at the forecasts on the Beeb....projecting SNP gain 53 and Labour lose 19. So does that imply Labour actually didn't do so badly in England? Because who the heck else have the SNP got those seats from in Scotland, were there many Lib Dem or Conservative seats there before? " There were 11 lib-dems and 1 tory in 2010, SNP taking seats there as well as from labour. | |||
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"Carswell holds his seat for UKIP. "But they fail in Thurrock | |||
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"Where are you fuckers getting this from?, the BBC site seems to be lagging well behind, (but does have some funky barcharts)." Im watching BBC, but there could be a lag with my brain | |||
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"Where are you fuckers getting this from?, the BBC site seems to be lagging well behind, (but does have some funky barcharts). Im watching BBC, but there could be a lag with my brain" I'm watching on sky news. | |||
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"Where are you fuckers getting this from?, the BBC site seems to be lagging well behind, (but does have some funky barcharts)." Radio4. | |||
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"" I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for posting on this thread | |||
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"" And I mean that most sincerely folks | |||
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