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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Team Pacquaio as well... Floyd runs... Think could be a ko either way "
Runs?
He's famed for staying in the pocket and slipping punches whilst pot shotting his way to victory... What's impressive about him is how efficient he is...he stands in front of his opponent and they still rarely touch |
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By *el65Man
over a year ago
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theres no doubt mayweather is a brilliant boxer , personally I prefer manny and hope he wins , but I agree that Floyd will do what his does best and drag it into a slow fight , HOWEVER never say never if many clips his chin, he may open up and its a slugfest, |
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2015 Boxing Heavy champion = Boring, if you asking for his name..A lot people don't know him??????
2015 Floyd Mayweather = Showman + business, a lot people know him. Every fight big $$$$$. 47-0 perfect |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Won't be close. May weather far too good. Mayweather doesn't have a padded record. He's been in with world class opponents. Never been ko'ed. Never lost on points.
Some people saying Pacquiaos speed and power will be too much. I have to ask why then has Pacquiao not knocked out smaller, lighter, slower and weaker boxers? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Won't be close. May weather far too good. Mayweather doesn't have a padded record. He's been in with world class opponents. Never been ko'ed. Never lost on points.
Some people saying Pacquiaos speed and power will be too much. I have to ask why then has Pacquiao not knocked out smaller, lighter, slower and weaker boxers?"
Not many do against elite competition... Also he's a small guy himself... However, all their common opponents say the same thing... Mayweather is the more skilled and Manny hits harder and from unusual angles |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Money Mayweather, a great boxer and a smart business man. On this fight he is getting 60% of the fight wallet as compared to the 40% which his opponent is getting win or loose. How smart is that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The form book is a good indicator on this one. The only fighter to have given Manny serious trouble over the years has been Marquez, and Floyd is just like Marquez....., only better. I hope that Manny will win, but my head says Floyd will be too good. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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seen a couple of lnks to live streaming for free.
only prob is, you wont know if it works til you try. then if it doesnt work, got to fanny about with other links. or the radio lol |
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"Manny. Fucking hate mayweather. So annoying and too cocky. "
defo want manny to win, he gives his $ to people in his country that need it/he gives to the poor.
Mayweather spends his $ on HIMSELF, a spoiled/selfish man.
Hope manny knocks him into the next millennium. |
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Think the ref kenny Bayless will play a huge part.
Very bias towards Mayweather. Only have to watch his last fight to see that.
He actually refereed Mayweather's 1st pro fight in 96.
I think he's a muppet, he actually has a twin brother called kermit! #fact |
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"Think the ref kenny Bayless will play a huge part.
Very bias towards Mayweather. Only have to watch his last fight to see that.
He actually refereed Mayweather's 1st pro fight in 96.
I think he's a muppet, he actually has a twin brother called kermit! #fact "
That's not good sign if a referee has a "favourite". Ref should be neutral. |
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"Think the ref kenny Bayless will play a huge part.
Very bias towards Mayweather. Only have to watch his last fight to see that.
He actually refereed Mayweather's 1st pro fight in 96.
I think he's a muppet, he actually has a twin brother called kermit! #fact
That's not good sign if a referee has a "favourite". Ref should be neutral. "
Good to see you take a random comment as fact without any research Thomas....also mayweather invented the uppercut in 2006 by accident, until then only a jab an hook existed |
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"Think the ref kenny Bayless will play a huge part.
Very bias towards Mayweather. Only have to watch his last fight to see that.
He actually refereed Mayweather's 1st pro fight in 96.
I think he's a muppet, he actually has a twin brother called kermit! #fact
That's not good sign if a referee has a "favourite". Ref should be neutral.
Good to see you take a random
comment as fact without any research Thomas....also mayweather invented the uppercut in 2006 by accident, until then only a jab an hook existed "
Was just commenting on what SOMEONE else said.
What's that about mayweather inventing the uppercut, what planet you live on? I think you'll find uppercut been around WAY before mayweather |
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"Think the ref kenny Bayless will play a huge part.
Very bias towards Mayweather. Only have to watch his last fight to see that.
He actually refereed Mayweather's 1st pro fight in 96.
I think he's a muppet, he actually has a twin brother called kermit! #fact
That's not good sign if a referee has a "favourite". Ref should be neutral.
Good to see you take a random
comment as fact without any research Thomas....also mayweather invented the uppercut in 2006 by accident, until then only a jab an hook existed
Was just commenting on what SOMEONE else said.
What's that about mayweather inventing the uppercut, what planet you live on? I think you'll find uppercut been around WAY before mayweather"
hahaha it's called sarcasm my friend |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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money or manny?
a few thoughts...
-theyre both getting on a bit eh
-legs go first, the punch goes last.
-but neither of them has won by ko in years. manny 6 years, money 4 years.
- anyone remember ali's ' i'm gonna dance' patter, before the foreman fight? then he practically stood still + let foreman punch himself out. before moving in himself. rope a dope.
roach saying they have worked on ways to cut down the ring+ stop moneyman escaping, reminds me of that.
whatever you say before the fight,is the opposite of what you will do.
+ does a 36 year old have the legs to chase floyd? can a 38 year old run for 12 rounds?
manny has to get in close,if he can do that...
yeah who knows |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Manny. Fucking hate mayweather. So annoying and too cocky.
defo want manny to win, he gives his $ to people in his country that need it/he gives to the poor.
Mayweather spends his $ on HIMSELF, a spoiled/selfish man.
Hope manny knocks him into the next millennium."
He did earn it himself...plus I'm sure he shares a little bit with his kids..? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm not a big boxing fan so I'm going with Manny as I'm a sucker for a rags to riches underdog ~ he seems like a decent guy too."
As loathsome as Mayweather is he didn't have the greatest of upbringings. I think Manny if he can pin him down early on otherwise it will be the usual Mayweather snorefest. |
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"Manny. Fucking hate mayweather. So annoying and too cocky.
defo want manny to win, he gives his $ to people in his country that need it/he gives to the poor.
Mayweather spends his $ on HIMSELF, a spoiled/selfish man.
Hope manny knocks him into the next millennium."
I don't know much about either of them and not interested in boxing at all but why is someone selfish for spending the money they've earned on themselves? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not a fan of Mayweather, the big names on his CV were well past their prime when he beat them
Big named Welters of yesteryear like Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Cuevas, Pryor and Arguello would have tore him a new arsehole
Manny for me needs to cut the ring down and pressurise him and hopefully nail him early, if not we get a boring 12 rounder as Floyd grabs and holds then picks and moves
First big hand Manny lands could end it all
We old timers always state if your record states you undefeated means you haven't fought anyone decent. Like I said earlier Floyds CV has impressive names but they were all past their sell by date when he fought them
I honestly hope Pacman KO's him and shuts him up
However my head says Mayweather in a boring Unanimous Decision |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Pac to win in the 11th, with a KO. Mayweather is seriously good, but Manny is by far the better fighter. Mayweather's recent bulking up is going to slow him in the latter rounds. |
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By *arry_Uk OP Man
over a year ago
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"Not a fan of Mayweather, the big names on his CV were well past their prime when he beat them
Big named Welters of yesteryear like Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Cuevas, Pryor and Arguello would have tore him a new arsehole
Manny for me needs to cut the ring down and pressurise him and hopefully nail him early, if not we get a boring 12 rounder as Floyd grabs and holds then picks and moves
First big hand Manny lands could end it all
We old timers always state if your record states you undefeated means you haven't fought anyone decent. Like I said earlier Floyds CV has impressive names but they were all past their sell by date when he fought them
I honestly hope Pacman KO's him and shuts him up
However my head says Mayweather in a boring Unanimous Decision "
I agree with this |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Think the ref kenny Bayless will play a huge part.
Very bias towards Mayweather. Only have to watch his last fight to see that.
He actually refereed Mayweather's 1st pro fight in 96.
I think he's a muppet, he actually has a twin brother called kermit! #fact
That's not good sign if a referee has a "favourite". Ref should be neutral.
Good to see you take a random
comment as fact without any research Thomas....also mayweather invented the uppercut in 2006 by accident, until then only a jab an hook existed
Was just commenting on what SOMEONE else said.
What's that about mayweather inventing the uppercut, what planet you live on? I think you'll find uppercut been around WAY before mayweather
hahaha it's called sarcasm my friend "
He is still a woman beater! |
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"Think the ref kenny Bayless will play a huge part.
Very bias towards Mayweather. Only have to watch his last fight to see that.
He actually refereed Mayweather's 1st pro fight in 96.
I think he's a muppet, he actually has a twin brother called kermit! #fact
That's not good sign if a referee has a "favourite". Ref should be neutral.
Good to see you take a random
comment as fact without any research Thomas....also mayweather invented the uppercut in 2006 by accident, until then only a jab an hook existed
Was just commenting on what SOMEONE else said.
What's that about mayweather inventing the uppercut, what planet you live on? I think you'll find uppercut been around WAY before mayweather
hahaha it's called sarcasm my friend
He is still a woman beater!"
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By *gNeMan
over a year ago
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"Not a fan of Mayweather, the big names on his CV were well past their prime when he beat them
Big named Welters of yesteryear like Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Cuevas, Pryor and Arguello would have tore him a new arsehole
Manny for me needs to cut the ring down and pressurise him and hopefully nail him early, if not we get a boring 12 rounder as Floyd grabs and holds then picks and moves
First big hand Manny lands could end it all
We old timers always state if your record states you undefeated means you haven't fought anyone decent. Like I said earlier Floyds CV has impressive names but they were all past their sell by date when he fought them
I honestly hope Pacman KO's him and shuts him up
However my head says Mayweather in a boring Unanimous Decision
I agree with this "
Don't get all the comments about boring points decision. That's how floyd boxes, sits in the pocket and still doesn't get hit. Masterclass last night, even the pacman could barely touch him.
People saying that it's boring don't know boxing.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Agree with the above... This isn't fighting..it's boxing... Granted it's always entertaining, but Mayweather has nigh on mastered the sport.
Good luck to both of them...and hopefully the new era will someone as good as either |
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"Not a fan of Mayweather, the big names on his CV were well past their prime when he beat them
Big named Welters of yesteryear like Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Cuevas, Pryor and Arguello would have tore him a new arsehole
Manny for me needs to cut the ring down and pressurise him and hopefully nail him early, if not we get a boring 12 rounder as Floyd grabs and holds then picks and moves
First big hand Manny lands could end it all
We old timers always state if your record states you undefeated means you haven't fought anyone decent. Like I said earlier Floyds CV has impressive names but they were all past their sell by date when he fought them
I honestly hope Pacman KO's him and shuts him up
However my head says Mayweather in a boring Unanimous Decision
I agree with this
Don't get all the comments about boring points decision. That's how floyd boxes, sits in the pocket and still doesn't get hit. Masterclass last night, even the pacman could barely touch him.
People saying that it's boring don't know boxing.. "
It was boring.
While it was a good fight for Mayweather and he fought exceptionally well, it didn't live up to the hype. Pacquiao didn't turn up either. I would have liked to see them both be a bit more adventurous, especially Pacman. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Think the ref kenny Bayless will play a huge part.
Very bias towards Mayweather. Only have to watch his last fight to see that.
He actually refereed Mayweather's 1st pro fight in 96.
I think he's a muppet, he actually has a twin brother called kermit! #fact
That's not good sign if a referee has a "favourite". Ref should be neutral.
Good to see you take a random
comment as fact without any research Thomas....also mayweather invented the uppercut in 2006 by accident, until then only a jab an hook existed
Was just commenting on what SOMEONE else said.
What's that about mayweather inventing the uppercut, what planet you live on? I think you'll find uppercut been around WAY before mayweather
hahaha it's called sarcasm my friend
He is still a woman beater!"
Pac isn't a saint. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It was boring.
While it was a good fight for Mayweather and he fought exceptionally well, it didn't live up to the hype. Pacquiao didn't turn up either. I would have liked to see them both be a bit more adventurous, especially Pacman. "
Pac is poor at cutting off the ring and Mayweather has exceptional footwork even at this stage in his career.
I was disappointed as opposed to bored. I wanted Mayweather to be genuinely challenged by the 2nd best fighter in the division... He didn't come close and lesser names posed more problems.
Floyd is too good a technician... Out punched, out landed and out manoeuvred Pacman.
Seems with Khan's fasting, he won't be next... Leaves Brook or Thurman... If we're lucky and Mayweather takes a ridiculous risk, it could be GGG at 154, but I suspect not... |
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It was boring.
While it was a good fight for Mayweather and he fought exceptionally well, it didn't live up to the hype. Pacquiao didn't turn up either. I would have liked to see them both be a bit more adventurous, especially Pacman.
Pac is poor at cutting off the ring and Mayweather has exceptional footwork even at this stage in his career.
I was disappointed as opposed to bored. I wanted Mayweather to be genuinely challenged by the 2nd best fighter in the division... He didn't come close and lesser names posed more problems.
Floyd is too good a technician... Out punched, out landed and out manoeuvred Pacman.
Seems with Khan's fasting, he won't be next... Leaves Brook or Thurman... If we're lucky and Mayweather takes a ridiculous risk, it could be GGG at 154, but I suspect not..."
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By *gNeMan
over a year ago
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It was boring.
While it was a good fight for Mayweather and he fought exceptionally well, it didn't live up to the hype. Pacquiao didn't turn up either. I would have liked to see them both be a bit more adventurous, especially Pacman. "
It was never going to live up to the hype. The fight should have happened years ago. Doesn't detract from floyds mastery of the sweet science, to hit without getting hit.
Predictable yes, but boring definitely not. |
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I knew Mayweather would defeat Pac which was why I bet over 100 on him but human instincts of what if came in but was happy to see him slow Pac down within the first round and think he won the first 3 rounds. No way Pac would have beaten money by punches without making himself available to be hit. Everyone that was rooting for Pac now calling Mayweather a looser and chicken for running away from punches and hugging Pac but in boxing you shouldn't let your opponent hit you and anything that buys you time is a good tactics and if you noticed Floyd did most of his punches in the early and in between stages and was only right to defend when he knew he had landed more punches. It was a rare outcome as Mayweather even had more punches and more landed punches of 34 to 19 percent I think so it was funny to me when Pac said he taught he had won lol. Floyd Mayweather Jnr TBE (The Best Ever) 48-0 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" "chess match"
That's a phrase that could used to describe the best match ups of all time. "
Not when people have spent all night awake to watch it. I didn't. (Thank fuck).
Those fights are ok at 6 PM early evening. Not 4 am.
At 4am I want to see a decent fight.
Personally I'm not that into boxing actually. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I scored the fight a draw as I watched it as Pacquiao was the aggressor and looked to make a fight of it. Mayweather had all the tools to win by stoppage if he had got on the front foot more often and had chosen to attack, but he didn't. It is why he will always be respected as a brilliant defensive boxer, but will never be loved by the fans as he simply isn't entertaining. He might deny it but I suspect he will struggle in retirement when it comes to cope with the boos he received during his career and why fight fans will always prefer the likes of Ali, Ray Leonard, Hearnes etc who gave great value for money, win, lose or draw. |
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" "chess match"
That's a phrase that could used to describe the best match ups of all time.
Not when people have spent all night awake to watch it. I didn't. (Thank fuck).
Those fights are ok at 6 PM early evening. Not 4 am.
At 4am I want to see a decent fight.
Personally I'm not that into boxing actually. "
Actually the fight was at 10pm not the fighters fault the the UK is 6hrs ahead and it was more than a decent fight it was a masterclass from Mayweather if you was into boxing you would know that |
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"I scored the fight a draw as I watched it as Pacquiao was the aggressor and looked to make a fight of it. Mayweather had all the tools to win by stoppage if he had got on the front foot more often and had chosen to attack, but he didn't. It is why he will always be respected as a brilliant defensive boxer, but will never be loved by the fans as he simply isn't entertaining. He might deny it but I suspect he will struggle in retirement when it comes to cope with the boos he received during his career and why fight fans will always prefer the likes of Ali, Ray Leonard, Hearnes etc who gave great value for money, win, lose or draw."
well the professional judges at ring side all disagree with you and said Mayweather was a clear winner people need to remember boxing is a sport hit and don't get hit it's not always about trying to knock you're opponents head off |
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By *gNeMan
over a year ago
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" "chess match"
That's a phrase that could used to describe the best match ups of all time.
Not when people have spent all night awake to watch it. I didn't. (Thank fuck).
Those fights are ok at 6 PM early evening. Not 4 am.
At 4am I want to see a decent fight.
Personally I'm not that into boxing actually. "
Yeah, that's a perfectly fair perspective. As someone with just a casual interest it is totally understandable to want a knockout.
I was just pointing out that people claiming it was boring because floyd ran, or manny didn't do this or that are people who don't know boxing. |
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"I scored the fight a draw as I watched it as Pacquiao was the aggressor and looked to make a fight of it. Mayweather had all the tools to win by stoppage if he had got on the front foot more often and had chosen to attack, but he didn't. It is why he will always be respected as a brilliant defensive boxer, but will never be loved by the fans as he simply isn't entertaining. He might deny it but I suspect he will struggle in retirement when it comes to cope with the boos he received during his career and why fight fans will always prefer the likes of Ali, Ray Leonard, Hearnes etc who gave great value for money, win, lose or draw.
well the professional judges at ring side all disagree with you and said Mayweather was a clear winner people need to remember boxing is a sport hit and don't get hit it's not always about trying to knock you're opponents head off "
I agree in many respects, and could easily see how the two judges who scored the fight 116-112 came to their view, but Mayweather showed in the first and eleventh rounds how much more he had in the tank, but chose not to produce it throughout the fight, preferring to box on the back foot, albeit beautifully. Had Pacquiao not sought to come forward and make a fight of it, it would have been the most expensive dancing match in history. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I was just pointing out that people claiming it was boring because floyd ran, or manny didn't do this or that are people who don't know boxing. "
Fuck me.
That sounds worse than anything I've read about it.
That sounds boring as fuck. |
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By *gNeMan
over a year ago
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"I scored the fight a draw as I watched it as Pacquiao was the aggressor and looked to make a fight of it. Mayweather had all the tools to win by stoppage if he had got on the front foot more often and had chosen to attack, but he didn't. It is why he will always be respected as a brilliant defensive boxer, but will never be loved by the fans as he simply isn't entertaining. He might deny it but I suspect he will struggle in retirement when it comes to cope with the boos he received during his career and why fight fans will always prefer the likes of Ali, Ray Leonard, Hearnes etc who gave great value for money, win, lose or draw."
No way it was a draw. Pacquiao wasn't busy enough, but I think that was due to a respect for the counter punching floyd.
Floyd is a defensive boxer as you said, so by going on the offensive more and looking for the stoppage he would only have left himself open to mannys speed and angles.
He has a huge following, and whilst maybe not remembered fondly by all, he will still go down in the hall of fame right alongside Ali and both the rays (well maybe slightly beneath)
He won't regret anything in his old age as he is a classic narcissist! |
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By *gNeMan
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I was just pointing out that people claiming it was boring because floyd ran, or manny didn't do this or that are people who don't know boxing.
Fuck me.
That sounds worse than anything I've read about it.
That sounds boring as fuck. "
That doesn't mean anything..??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I scored the fight a draw as I watched it as Pacquiao was the aggressor and looked to make a fight of it. Mayweather had all the tools to win by stoppage if he had got on the front foot more often and had chosen to attack, but he didn't. It is why he will always be respected as a brilliant defensive boxer, but will never be loved by the fans as he simply isn't entertaining. He might deny it but I suspect he will struggle in retirement when it comes to cope with the boos he received during his career and why fight fans will always prefer the likes of Ali, Ray Leonard, Hearnes etc who gave great value for money, win, lose or draw.
well the professional judges at ring side all disagree with you and said Mayweather was a clear winner people need to remember boxing is a sport hit and don't get hit it's not always about trying to knock you're opponents head off
I agree in many respects, and could easily see how the two judges who scored the fight 116-112 came to their view, but Mayweather showed in the first and eleventh rounds how much more he had in the tank, but chose not to produce it throughout the fight, preferring to box on the back foot, albeit beautifully. Had Pacquiao not sought to come forward and make a fight of it, it would have been the most expensive dancing match in history. "
The trouble was - Pacquiao didn't really make a fight of it.
At a couple stages he had Mayweather backed up against the ropes...and followed a flurry of punches with a step back into the centre of the ring... After round 7 he became particularly gunshy and started trading single punches..and Mayweather simply potshotted him. Round 11 and 12 were particularly poor with Floyd banging him hard 3 times to the side of his face... Manny, I felt was ineffective at cutting off the ring so ended up simply following Floyd around and getting caught with check hooks many times Floyd sensed he was near a corner of the ring.
Floyd outpunching and outlanding manny was something I didn't expect - particularly the margin of the numbers.
Khan next I believe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I scored the fight a draw as I watched it as Pacquiao was the aggressor and looked to make a fight of it. Mayweather had all the tools to win by stoppage if he had got on the front foot more often and had chosen to attack, but he didn't. It is why he will always be respected as a brilliant defensive boxer, but will never be loved by the fans as he simply isn't entertaining. He might deny it but I suspect he will struggle in retirement when it comes to cope with the boos he received during his career and why fight fans will always prefer the likes of Ali, Ray Leonard, Hearnes etc who gave great value for money, win, lose or draw.
well the professional judges at ring side all disagree with you and said Mayweather was a clear winner people need to remember boxing is a sport hit and don't get hit it's not always about trying to knock you're opponents head off
I agree in many respects, and could easily see how the two judges who scored the fight 116-112 came to their view, but Mayweather showed in the first and eleventh rounds how much more he had in the tank, but chose not to produce it throughout the fight, preferring to box on the back foot, albeit beautifully. Had Pacquiao not sought to come forward and make a fight of it, it would have been the most expensive dancing match in history.
The trouble was - Pacquiao didn't really make a fight of it.
At a couple stages he had Mayweather backed up against the ropes...and followed a flurry of punches with a step back into the centre of the ring... After round 7 he became particularly gunshy and started trading single punches..and Mayweather simply potshotted him. Round 11 and 12 were particularly poor with Floyd banging him hard 3 times to the side of his face... Manny, I felt was ineffective at cutting off the ring so ended up simply following Floyd around and getting caught with check hooks many times Floyd sensed he was near a corner of the ring.
Floyd outpunching and outlanding manny was something I didn't expect - particularly the margin of the numbers.
Khan next I believe."
It wasn't Manny's finest night, and credit to Floyd for nullifying him a lot of the time.
Hard to see Khan troubling Mayweather but he has earned his chance and I will be cheering him on. |
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By *gNeMan
over a year ago
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"I scored the fight a draw as I watched it as Pacquiao was the aggressor and looked to make a fight of it. Mayweather had all the tools to win by stoppage if he had got on the front foot more often and had chosen to attack, but he didn't. It is why he will always be respected as a brilliant defensive boxer, but will never be loved by the fans as he simply isn't entertaining. He might deny it but I suspect he will struggle in retirement when it comes to cope with the boos he received during his career and why fight fans will always prefer the likes of Ali, Ray Leonard, Hearnes etc who gave great value for money, win, lose or draw.
well the professional judges at ring side all disagree with you and said Mayweather was a clear winner people need to remember boxing is a sport hit and don't get hit it's not always about trying to knock you're opponents head off
I agree in many respects, and could easily see how the two judges who scored the fight 116-112 came to their view, but Mayweather showed in the first and eleventh rounds how much more he had in the tank, but chose not to produce it throughout the fight, preferring to box on the back foot, albeit beautifully. Had Pacquiao not sought to come forward and make a fight of it, it would have been the most expensive dancing match in history.
The trouble was - Pacquiao didn't really make a fight of it.
At a couple stages he had Mayweather backed up against the ropes...and followed a flurry of punches with a step back into the centre of the ring... After round 7 he became particularly gunshy and started trading single punches..and Mayweather simply potshotted him. Round 11 and 12 were particularly poor with Floyd banging him hard 3 times to the side of his face... Manny, I felt was ineffective at cutting off the ring so ended up simply following Floyd around and getting caught with check hooks many times Floyd sensed he was near a corner of the ring.
Floyd outpunching and outlanding manny was something I didn't expect - particularly the margin of the numbers.
Khan next I believe."
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"For me Khan doesn't deserve to step in the ring with him his just not on that level and needs to stop ducking Kell Brook before he can even think about taking on Mayweather "
The Brook fight is an obvious match up, but Khan has more than earned his chance at Mayweather and good luck to him. |
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It wasn't Manny's finest night, and credit to Floyd for nullifying him a lot of the time.
Hard to see Khan troubling Mayweather but he has earned his chance and I will be cheering him on."
I agree.. though out of all the welterweights, Khan as an opponent does intrigue by virtue of his physical attributes (height, frame, reach) handspeed and that he is a good judge of range... He ought to give Floyd something to think about...and who knows...stranger things have happened.
Khan rarely loses rounds to his opponents and there's almost always drama in his fights.
Personally, I think Terence Crawford is the future of the welterweights. |
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By *gNeMan
over a year ago
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"For me Khan doesn't deserve to step in the ring with him his just not on that level and needs to stop ducking Kell Brook before he can even think about taking on Mayweather "
Agreed. We need Brook v Khan!! |
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"For me Khan doesn't deserve to step in the ring with him his just not on that level and needs to stop ducking Kell Brook before he can even think about taking on Mayweather "
Given he wants to fight Pacman and/or Mayweather - I don't think he's ducking Brook at all.
I'd like to see that fight happen though and it probably will, even if Khan secures (and loses) a fight with either of the aforementioned HOFers. |
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"Khan V Mayweather would be an actual murder.
Khan would be pummeled. "
I'm not so convinced.
Mayweather doesn't pummel anyone... well except for idiots like Ortiz who put their heads down and go for repeated hugs!
It'll be tactical...where the jabs and lead rights will play a major part.
Probably considered boring by most.
I'd still favour Mayweather though.
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By *gNeMan
over a year ago
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"Khan V Mayweather would be an actual murder.
Khan would be pummeled.
I'm not so convinced.
Mayweather doesn't pummel anyone... well except for idiots like Ortiz who put their heads down and go for repeated hugs!
It'll be tactical...where the jabs and lead rights will play a major part.
Probably considered boring by most.
I'd still favour Mayweather though.
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Gotta remember Mayweathers getting on aswell, in his prime no chance. Now, Khan could cause some problems.. |
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"For me Khan doesn't deserve to step in the ring with him his just not on that level and needs to stop ducking Kell Brook before he can even think about taking on Mayweather
Given he wants to fight Pacman and/or Mayweather - I don't think he's ducking Brook at all.
I'd like to see that fight happen though and it probably will, even if Khan secures (and loses) a fight with either of the aforementioned HOFers."
But i believe he needs to take care of Brook first before he can have those sorts of fights look if he beats Brook his a champion as well then onto the next superfight with pacman or Mayweather but for me at the moment Brook deserves a shot before him because he is a champion Khan isn't |
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over a year ago
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"For me Khan doesn't deserve to step in the ring with him his just not on that level and needs to stop ducking Kell Brook before he can even think about taking on Mayweather
Given he wants to fight Pacman and/or Mayweather - I don't think he's ducking Brook at all.
I'd like to see that fight happen though and it probably will, even if Khan secures (and loses) a fight with either of the aforementioned HOFers.
But i believe he needs to take care of Brook first before he can have those sorts of fights look if he beats Brook his a champion as well then onto the next superfight with pacman or Mayweather but for me at the moment Brook deserves a shot before him because he is a champion Khan isn't "
Unfortunately boxing is so corrupt now that it's not about who deserves it, it's about what will generate most money. |
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"For me Khan doesn't deserve to step in the ring with him his just not on that level and needs to stop ducking Kell Brook before he can even think about taking on Mayweather
Given he wants to fight Pacman and/or Mayweather - I don't think he's ducking Brook at all.
I'd like to see that fight happen though and it probably will, even if Khan secures (and loses) a fight with either of the aforementioned HOFers.
But i believe he needs to take care of Brook first before he can have those sorts of fights look if he beats Brook his a champion as well then onto the next superfight with pacman or Mayweather but for me at the moment Brook deserves a shot before him because he is a champion Khan isn't
Unfortunately boxing is so corrupt now that it's not about who deserves it, it's about what will generate most money. "
i here you but an Undefeated Brook vs Undefeated Mayweather sounds like a money making fight to me |
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Yep... Khan is better known, particularly in America so will generate more money.
Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
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Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
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that's why they should fight and the winner gets to take on Mayweather |
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"Yep... Khan is better known, particularly in America so will generate more money.
Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
that's why they should fight and the winner gets to take on Mayweather "
The fight will happen after Mayweather. Khan won't risk his payday for Brook and why should he? |
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Khan maybe better known in the States but when the average Joe over there reads either ring record Brook like Mayweather is undefeated and makes for a money spinner
Most Americans think Khan is already shot as a contender
Crawford is a Light Welter and possibly too early to be talking about challenging Mayweather
I would prefer to see Kell Brook get the shot, but he is too dangerous an opponent right now for Floyd
To call himself the very best is a joke and insulting to a massive amount of former fighters who have gone before him and left better legacies.
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"Yep... Khan is better known, particularly in America so will generate more money.
Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
that's why they should fight and the winner gets to take on Mayweather
The fight will happen after Mayweather. Khan won't risk his payday for Brook and why should he?"
why should Brook wait?? His the champion not Khan
and it's only a risk if he believes he can't win which says alot
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over a year ago
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"For me Khan doesn't deserve to step in the ring with him his just not on that level and needs to stop ducking Kell Brook before he can even think about taking on Mayweather
Given he wants to fight Pacman and/or Mayweather - I don't think he's ducking Brook at all.
I'd like to see that fight happen though and it probably will, even if Khan secures (and loses) a fight with either of the aforementioned HOFers.
But i believe he needs to take care of Brook first before he can have those sorts of fights look if he beats Brook his a champion as well then onto the next superfight with pacman or Mayweather but for me at the moment Brook deserves a shot before him because he is a champion Khan isn't
Unfortunately boxing is so corrupt now that it's not about who deserves it, it's about what will generate most money.
i here you but an Undefeated Brook vs Undefeated Mayweather sounds like a money making fight to me "
True. Promoters can be very shortsighted though! |
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"Khan maybe better known in the States but when the average Joe over there reads either ring record Brook like Mayweather is undefeated and makes for a money spinner
Most Americans think Khan is already shot as a contender
Crawford is a Light Welter and possibly too early to be talking about challenging Mayweather
I would prefer to see Kell Brook get the shot, but he is too dangerous an opponent right now for Floyd
To call himself the very best is a joke and insulting to a massive amount of former fighters who have gone before him and left better legacies.
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Clearly the powers that be don't think so.. Floyd's father was quoted as saying his son should fight Khan in September.
Malignaggi and Roy Jones have both said they feel Khan poses Mayweather the most problems out of all the welters.
After Khan's win against Alexander (who I don't really rate, but he is a 'brand name' fighter), he's back in the sweepstakes. I think Brook would be an easier fight for Mayweather...another shut out.
Mayweather is the present, Crawford looks like the future.
As some mentioned earlier, Mayweather is a bit of a narcissist...he's wealthy, talented and undefeated. He may not be the best ever, but he is the conversation and is certainly amongst them..though not quite at the top in my opinion.
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"Yep... Khan is better known, particularly in America so will generate more money.
Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
that's why they should fight and the winner gets to take on Mayweather
The fight will happen after Mayweather. Khan won't risk his payday for Brook and why should he?
why should Brook wait?? His the champion not Khan
and it's only a risk if he believes he can't win which says alot
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I think it's also a question of timing.
Mayweather has one fight left....penciled in for September. Khan fights next at around that time.
He'd rather it be against Mayweather. |
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"Yep... Khan is better known, particularly in America so will generate more money.
Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
that's why they should fight and the winner gets to take on Mayweather
The fight will happen after Mayweather. Khan won't risk his payday for Brook and why should he?
why should Brook wait?? His the champion not Khan
and it's only a risk if he believes he can't win which says alot
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Because Mayweather Brook won't sell in the same way Mayweather Khan will. Khan is a much bigger audience puller. Titles mean a lot less than PPV figures. Khan has been on the radar of Mayweather for a long time, remember the fans poll vs Maidana? It can be sold that Mayweather has ducked Khan so there is a story. |
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"Yep... Khan is better known, particularly in America so will generate more money.
Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
that's why they should fight and the winner gets to take on Mayweather
The fight will happen after Mayweather. Khan won't risk his payday for Brook and why should he?
why should Brook wait?? His the champion not Khan
and it's only a risk if he believes he can't win which says alot
I think it's also a question of timing.
Mayweather has one fight left....penciled in for September. Khan fights next at around that time.
He'd rather it be against Mayweather."
Khan doesn't and won't fight in September due to Ramadan |
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"Yep... Khan is better known, particularly in America so will generate more money.
Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
that's why they should fight and the winner gets to take on Mayweather
The fight will happen after Mayweather. Khan won't risk his payday for Brook and why should he?
why should Brook wait?? His the champion not Khan
and it's only a risk if he believes he can't win which says alot
I think it's also a question of timing.
Mayweather has one fight left....penciled in for September. Khan fights next at around that time.
He'd rather it be against Mayweather.
Khan doesn't and won't fight in September due to Ramadan "
He says he needs 3 months to prepare... which means, IF Floyd is happy to fight at the end of September, it could happen.
Otherwise... Brook has as good if not a better chance than a Garcia, Thurman, Matthyse et al.
We'll know in in around a month. |
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"Yep... Khan is better known, particularly in America so will generate more money.
Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
that's why they should fight and the winner gets to take on Mayweather
The fight will happen after Mayweather. Khan won't risk his payday for Brook and why should he?
why should Brook wait?? His the champion not Khan
and it's only a risk if he believes he can't win which says alot
Because Mayweather Brook won't sell in the same way Mayweather Khan will. Khan is a much bigger audience puller. Titles mean a lot less than PPV figures. Khan has been on the radar of Mayweather for a long time, remember the fans poll vs Maidana? It can be sold that Mayweather has ducked Khan so there is a story. "
i believe it would sell more as it would be two undefeated fighters/champions going head 2 head which always sells well plus Americans don't take him as seriously or rate him that highly after Peterson and Garcia |
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"Yep... Khan is better known, particularly in America so will generate more money.
Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
that's why they should fight and the winner gets to take on Mayweather
The fight will happen after Mayweather. Khan won't risk his payday for Brook and why should he?
why should Brook wait?? His the champion not Khan
and it's only a risk if he believes he can't win which says alot
Because Mayweather Brook won't sell in the same way Mayweather Khan will. Khan is a much bigger audience puller. Titles mean a lot less than PPV figures. Khan has been on the radar of Mayweather for a long time, remember the fans poll vs Maidana? It can be sold that Mayweather has ducked Khan so there is a story.
i believe it would sell more as it would be two undefeated fighters/champions going head 2 head which always sells well plus Americans don't take him as seriously or rate him that highly after Peterson and Garcia "
Brook is not a big name, undefeated or not. Khan is box office, and that is why he will get the gig. |
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"Yep... Khan is better known, particularly in America so will generate more money.
Both are chasing Mayweather...but with one fight left...you can't blame anyone..hell, if I could box, I'd be wanting that fight too!
that's why they should fight and the winner gets to take on Mayweather
The fight will happen after Mayweather. Khan won't risk his payday for Brook and why should he?
why should Brook wait?? His the champion not Khan
and it's only a risk if he believes he can't win which says alot
Because Mayweather Brook won't sell in the same way Mayweather Khan will. Khan is a much bigger audience puller. Titles mean a lot less than PPV figures. Khan has been on the radar of Mayweather for a long time, remember the fans poll vs Maidana? It can be sold that Mayweather has ducked Khan so there is a story.
i believe it would sell more as it would be two undefeated fighters/champions going head 2 head which always sells well plus Americans don't take him as seriously or rate him that highly after Peterson and Garcia
Brook is not a big name, undefeated or not. Khan is box office, and that is why he will get the gig."
OMG let's just agree to disagree
if box office is getting beat by nobodies then there are several box office fighters out there then
also wasn't his last fight free on sky sports hardly box office |
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Brook is not a big name, undefeated or not. Khan is box office, and that is why he will get the gig.
OMG let's just agree to disagree
if box office is getting beat by nobodies then there are several box office fighters out there then "
Maidana, Malignaggi, Judah and Alexander aren't nobodies...
Neither Garcia nor Peterson aren't exactly nobodies either...
Decent resume in all honesty.
Box office is ...having a big name by taking on known names/decent fighters and giving the public entertaining fights (except, you can argue, the last one against Alexander) |
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Brook is not a big name, undefeated or not. Khan is box office, and that is why he will get the gig.
OMG let's just agree to disagree
if box office is getting beat by nobodies then there are several box office fighters out there then
Maidana, Malignaggi, Judah and Alexander aren't nobodies...
Neither Garcia nor Peterson aren't exactly nobodies either...
Decent resume in all honesty.
Box office is ...having a big name by taking on known names/decent fighters and giving the public entertaining fights (except, you can argue, the last one against Alexander)"
Prescott? |
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Brook is not a big name, undefeated or not. Khan is box office, and that is why he will get the gig.
OMG let's just agree to disagree
if box office is getting beat by nobodies then there are several box office fighters out there then
Maidana, Malignaggi, Judah and Alexander aren't nobodies...
Neither Garcia nor Peterson aren't exactly nobodies either...
Decent resume in all honesty.
Box office is ...having a big name by taking on known names/decent fighters and giving the public entertaining fights (except, you can argue, the last one against Alexander)"
I'm not doubting Brooks credentials, I think he is brilliant and I also think he would be a worthy opponent for Mayweather. But Khan has a way bigger profile, and has fought the bigger names, just the way it is. |
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Brook is not a big name, undefeated or not. Khan is box office, and that is why he will get the gig.
OMG let's just agree to disagree
if box office is getting beat by nobodies then there are several box office fighters out there then
Maidana, Malignaggi, Judah and Alexander aren't nobodies...
Neither Garcia nor Peterson aren't exactly nobodies either...
Decent resume in all honesty.
Box office is ...having a big name by taking on known names/decent fighters and giving the public entertaining fights (except, you can argue, the last one against Alexander)
Prescott? "
Sadly Prescott went on a crazy losing streak since then and Khan moved on and up.
Even Manny lost to a nobody early on...heck, so did Hopkins! |
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Brook is not a big name, undefeated or not. Khan is box office, and that is why he will get the gig.
OMG let's just agree to disagree
if box office is getting beat by nobodies then there are several box office fighters out there then
Maidana, Malignaggi, Judah and Alexander aren't nobodies...
Neither Garcia nor Peterson aren't exactly nobodies either...
Decent resume in all honesty.
Box office is ...having a big name by taking on known names/decent fighters and giving the public entertaining fights (except, you can argue, the last one against Alexander)
Prescott?
Sadly Prescott went on a crazy losing streak since then and Khan moved on and up.
Even Manny lost to a nobody early on...heck, so did Hopkins!"
but not Mayweather or Brook |
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but not Mayweather or Brook "
That's no comparison - Brook has one decent name on his resume. With boxing the way it is though, he's only one decent name away from the big time. |
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but not Mayweather or Brook
That's no comparison - Brook has one decent name on his resume. With boxing the way it is though, he's only one decent name away from the big time."
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but not Mayweather or Brook
That's no comparison - Brook has one decent name on his resume. With boxing the way it is though, he's only one decent name away from the big time.
and believe that one name is Khan "
Trouble is...if they fight each other, neither will get be considered by Mayweather..he'll have retired.
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but not Mayweather or Brook
That's no comparison - Brook has one decent name on his resume. With boxing the way it is though, he's only one decent name away from the big time.
and believe that one name is Khan
Trouble is...if they fight each other, neither will get be considered by Mayweather..he'll have retired.
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or it could be a chance for him to end on 50-0 and unify the weight division (if he wins the 49th fight of course) also might tempt him for one last big pay day and a place in history beating Rocky Marciano's record maybe? |
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but not Mayweather or Brook
That's no comparison - Brook has one decent name on his resume. With boxing the way it is though, he's only one decent name away from the big time.
and believe that one name is Khan
Trouble is...if they fight each other, neither will get be considered by Mayweather..he'll have retired.
or it could be a chance for him to end on 50-0 and unify the weight division (if he wins the 49th fight of course) also might tempt him for one last big pay day and a place in history beating Rocky Marciano's record maybe? "
He's said he is going to relinquish the belts.....and quit after fight 49.... I'd rather be vying for fight 49 instead of hoping there's a fight 50! |
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Oooh...
Floyd has offered a rematch to Manny in a years time when he has fully recovered from surgery....
By that time, many will have forgotten the first match and the hype will steal their senses again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sqLzsaj88w&app=desktop |
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