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"I get engrossed by this subject and find it fascinating. The Sumarian tablets are some of the most important historical artifacts we have. The Annunaki and Nibiru may require a leap of faith for many but they knew thousands of years ago about all of the planets in our solar system long before 'modern' man. " They knew about 7 planets, of which 2 were the moon and the sun, so 5 of what we would now call planets which were Mercury, Venues, Mars, Saturn and Jupiter; all of which are clearly visible from earth with the naked eye if you know where to look. It would actually be more amazing if these ancient civilization had not noticed these so clearly visible planets and not written about them and included them in their culture and mythology. There is nothing amazing or requiring anything special or extraterrestrial or deistical to explain it " There's so much to this subject, I'd encourage anyone with an inquisitive mind to look at the evidence for themselves. " It all sounds a bit Von Danken / Chariots of The Gods to me. | |||
"There are no gods subject closed, before you all go mad, give me the PROOF???" Why do you want proof? Either you believe in a deity or you don't. If you believe no amount of proof will stop you believing and if you don't no amount of proof will make you believe. It's called believe because you have to believe it, if you could proof it there would be no need for belief because you would know. | |||
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"I'm obsessed with Sci fi,and space so watch ancient aliens,and conspiracy stuff all the time.both highly entertaining.plausible?barely..probable?highly unlikely.. " Unfortunately one of the side affects of people in the western world no longer believing in the Judeo/Christian God seems not to be that people take a more rational scientific approach to the unknown but rather that they seem even more susceptible to any idea that comes along.  | |||
"I'm obsessed with Sci fi,and space so watch ancient aliens,and conspiracy stuff all the time.both highly entertaining.plausible?barely..probable?highly unlikely.. Unfortunately one of the side affects of people in the western world no longer believing in the Judeo/Christian God seems not to be that people take a more rational scientific approach to the unknown but rather that they seem even more susceptible to any idea that comes along. "I think its more that more and more people are beginning to question everything we are told. We live in a technological age of science. Christianity is quite a young faith and islam even younger. Jewish or hebrew faiths (the oldest ones) are only about 4000 years. The romans, before Christianity were polytheistic. Beliefs change as do ideas. So why not believe in something different. Is believing in anunnaki or aliens any more absurd than believing that moses parted the red sea? Or that a guy in a boat got two of every animal (including ones from countries they hadn't even discovered) to avoid a flood...? Or even a big floaty dude called god with a magic finger? Point i think i am making is that we weren't around and history can be hazy. So we simply don't know. What i find amazing is that mayan pyramids, egypts pyramids, easter island and also pyramids in china (think its china) were all built at different times, all thousands of miles apart but they line up exactly to what would have been the old equitorial line. We scoff at the idea because its been made fantastical. But i suppose i am asking could the theory be possible? And why not? | |||
"There are no gods subject closed, before you all go mad, give me the PROOF???" You prove there isn't any God..... Oh silly me .... ya can't !!!1  | |||
"There are no gods subject closed, before you all go mad, give me the PROOF???" That's quite a definitive statement. Do you have proof of your claim? | |||
"There are no gods subject closed, before you all go mad, give me the PROOF??? That's quite a definitive statement. Do you have proof of your claim?" Could god have been a person? A global ruler? Worshipped as a deity? I love this stuff anything could be possible. | |||
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"Chariots of the gods. Check out the book or documentary if you're interested in the subject. Most interesting. Enjoy" Erich von Daniken. Did he ever get me into trouble at school with my English teacher! I read all his books and copied his style of writing, much to Miss Pilkington's disgust! He has interesting theories, I think it's up to the reader to decide whether he has found the answers or made things 'fit'...if you know what I mean. | |||
"There are no gods subject closed, before you all go mad, give me the PROOF??? You prove there isn't any God..... Oh silly me .... ya can't !!!1 "I have never seen any god have you? Of the thousands of gods that are supposed to be out there surely i would have seen one or one would have affected me some how? | |||
" What i find amazing is that mayan pyramids, egypts pyramids, easter island and also pyramids in china (think its china) were all built at different times, all thousands of miles apart but they line up exactly to what would have been the old equitorial line. We scoff at the idea because its been made fantastical. But i suppose i am asking could the theory be possible? And why not? " A pyramid is the simplest structure to gain height, wide base with the load under compression, neither Egypt or China are anywhere near the bloody equator, Columbia is as close as you'll get with the Mayans, which isn't close at all. | |||
"There are no gods subject closed, before you all go mad, give me the PROOF??? That's quite a definitive statement. Do you have proof of your claim?" War, murdering of innocent women and children, cancer, starvation, aids, poverty, you want me to go on? There is no god and if there was hes a bit of a sicko | |||
"There are no gods subject closed, before you all go mad, give me the PROOF??? You prove there isn't any God..... Oh silly me .... ya can't !!!1
I have never seen any god have you? Of the thousands of gods that are supposed to be out there surely i would have seen one or one would have affected me some how?"Why would you have seen one? Is it only a God if it fits your understanding of being so? | |||
"There are no gods subject closed, before you all go mad, give me the PROOF??? You prove there isn't any God..... Oh silly me .... ya can't !!!1
I have never seen any god have you? Of the thousands of gods that are supposed to be out there surely i would have seen one or one would have affected me some how?
Why would you have seen one? Is it only a God if it fits your understanding of being so?"Why would I believe in made up bullshit? Whats not made up about a god? | |||
"There are no gods subject closed, before you all go mad, give me the PROOF??? You prove there isn't any God..... Oh silly me .... ya can't !!!1
I have never seen any god have you? Of the thousands of gods that are supposed to be out there surely i would have seen one or one would have affected me some how?
Why would you have seen one? Is it only a God if it fits your understanding of being so?
Why would I believe in made up bullshit? Whats not made up about a god?"I'll take that as a yes  | |||
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"Take what you want, you still have not gave valid reason why you would think there is a god if you actually think there is a god?" I never said there was. If there were to be such a thing as a God I think it's ridiculous to assume that it could only exist if you deemed it to be so. Kind of sums up the arrogance of man. | |||
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"Take what you want, you still have not gave valid reason why you would think there is a god if you actually think there is a god?" Why would I need any valid reasons to believe in God, a god or gods. All I have to do is choose to believe in it and that's all. Can you validate everything you either believe in or don't believe in? I suspect not. | |||
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"What if, what we think of God is just an advanced alien? Also whether God is a god or just an alien. If he/she/it created everything, earth may be just as important to the alien/God as an ants nest in a wood 150 miles away is to you..." The only problem with the alien super being is that it does not actually answer anything. If we were created by a super being other than an infinite god then who created that super being. At some point, if you choose to believe in a creationist, intelligent design theory you have to end up at an infinite super being that started everything of. That being would be what most people call God. | |||
These tales are great, especially the Dogon and Nommo stories. | |||
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"Chariots of the gods. Check out the book or documentary if you're interested in the subject. Most interesting. Enjoy" Hi there I (m) meet several times Erich von Daeniken as I shared school with his daughter and next door neighbors of his were friends as well (that was Solothurn)...I do not wish to destroy all but Erich is a nice guy but money sharp and believe me a lot he writes and talks about he does not believe himself... But one thing he does believe in is Fasnacht and is there every year | |||
"I'm talking about a man made god a buddha, an allah, human religion is bs!!!!!! " then go back to the very first post... and read it again | |||
"I'm gonna like this thread." Not as much as I like the look of that very sexy arse you got there.  he he | |||
" What i find amazing is that mayan pyramids, egypts pyramids, easter island and also pyramids in china (think its china) were all built at different times, all thousands of miles apart but they line up exactly to what would have been the old equitorial line. We scoff at the idea because its been made fantastical. But i suppose i am asking could the theory be possible? And why not? A pyramid is the simplest structure to gain height, wide base with the load under compression, neither Egypt or China are anywhere near the bloody equator, Columbia is as close as you'll get with the Mayans, which isn't close at all." Not the current equator no but the earth shifts annually and so the equator was actually at a different angle as to where it is now... Read up on it | |||
" What i find amazing is that mayan pyramids, egypts pyramids, easter island and also pyramids in china (think its china) were all built at different times, all thousands of miles apart but they line up exactly to what would have been the old equitorial line. We scoff at the idea because its been made fantastical. But i suppose i am asking could the theory be possible? And why not? A pyramid is the simplest structure to gain height, wide base with the load under compression, neither Egypt or China are anywhere near the bloody equator, Columbia is as close as you'll get with the Mayans, which isn't close at all. Not the current equator no but the earth shifts annually and so the equator was actually at a different angle as to where it is now... Read up on it" I don't think it's sifted that much in the last 30,000 years. Maybe over millions of years with continental drift as well but not much over all of human history and definitely not enough to put either Egypt or China anywhere near the equator. | |||
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"I'm obsessed with Sci fi,and space so watch ancient aliens,and conspiracy stuff all the time.both highly entertaining.plausible?barely..probable?highly unlikely.. " there goes an intelligent reply | |||
"There are no gods subject closed, before you all go mad, give me the PROOF??? You prove there isn't any God..... Oh silly me .... ya can't !!!1
I have never seen any god have you? Of the thousands of gods that are supposed to be out there surely i would have seen one or one would have affected me some how?
Why would you have seen one? Is it only a God if it fits your understanding of being so?
Why would I believe in made up bullshit? Whats not made up about a god?"So basically what's going on here is your not accepting the challenge to prove God doesn't exist,,,,, Surprise surprise,,,,, sheeeesh....  | |||
" What i find amazing is that mayan pyramids, egypts pyramids, easter island and also pyramids in china (think its china) were all built at different times, all thousands of miles apart but they line up exactly to what would have been the old equitorial line. We scoff at the idea because its been made fantastical. But i suppose i am asking could the theory be possible? And why not? A pyramid is the simplest structure to gain height, wide base with the load under compression, neither Egypt or China are anywhere near the bloody equator, Columbia is as close as you'll get with the Mayans, which isn't close at all. Not the current equator no but the earth shifts annually and so the equator was actually at a different angle as to where it is now... Read up on it" You sure?, the land mass has moved but the equator is always at the same latitude, isn't it? | |||
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"I like to be open minded and influenced by evidence. There doesn't seem to be much evidence of an earlier life form on earth that was equal to, or more developed, than the group of mammals that now exist - I'm open to the possibility that some animals have become extinct: we know that probably millions of species have. Aliens living on earth, having travelled here, somehow? Sure, alien matter has crashed through our atmosphere and may have seeded some forms of life. The real issue that I have is that organic matter that lives here seems to exist in isolation as the basis for life and that advanced alien life travelling many light years in order to arrive here would likely have used some of their other technology, whilst they were living here. There's still only organic life, that appears to have followed a fairly simple trajectory, from earlier less sophisticated life forms, into what we have today. And there doesn't seem to be much evidence of technologies that are equivalent to that needed to travel vast distances across space that have been discovered, as far as I'm aware. What we do seem to have is a human predisposition to create religious belief systems, with probably many hundreds or thousands of them, in the period that humans have been around. The Anunnaki appears to be a regional belief system that is no more believable to myself, than any other that I'm aware of. It probably represents a fairly simple living group of people who accredited power to bodies outside of our world, such as the sun and planets. With limited understanding of the solar system, and with all food being dependent upon the sun, then I can appreciate how something outside of our planet may have been readily worshipped. As for the mythologies that have been developed in the past centuries, usually following publication of some author's book, I think the authors have largely been responsible for hyping up what they know, to the extent that fictional influences are portrayed more as facts. I think this has probably happened with the Anunnaki scenario, where gold digging authors have fabricated a narrative, for their own ends. I'm certainly open to evidence and haven't spent part of my scholarly life specialising in this subject matter. There's tons of horse shite around and plenty of people who will peddle it." This would be my perspective xx | |||
"*never, not ever. Has anyone studied evolution? It makes sense that we all evolved from bacteria." darwin etc, very popular. but I think we still have the 'missing link'? | |||
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"*never, not ever. Has anyone studied evolution? It makes sense that we all evolved from bacteria. darwin etc, very popular. but I think we still have the 'missing link'?" I'm up to studying genetics now, think it'll help me understand darwin a bit more coz he had some ideas i wasn't happy with and not sure if he was correct. But there are loads of missing links yeah. | |||
" What i find amazing is that mayan pyramids, egypts pyramids, easter island and also pyramids in china (think its china) were all built at different times, all thousands of miles apart but they line up exactly to what would have been the old equitorial line. We scoff at the idea because its been made fantastical. But i suppose i am asking could the theory be possible? And why not? A pyramid is the simplest structure to gain height, wide base with the load under compression, neither Egypt or China are anywhere near the bloody equator, Columbia is as close as you'll get with the Mayans, which isn't close at all. Not the current equator no but the earth shifts annually and so the equator was actually at a different angle as to where it is now... Read up on it You sure?, the land mass has moved but the equator is always at the same latitude, isn't it?" I read about it again, i am not sure its the actual equator or the ancient equator, i think it might possibly be just an equatorial line meaning more that they line up exactly with each other, probably my misrepresentation of it. I can't post links to show you. There is a good program called revelation of the pyramids - some of it is a bit daft but some other points are to me really plausible. And also one called "carl munk the code" really interesting. | |||
"I like to be open minded and influenced by evidence. There doesn't seem to be much evidence of an earlier life form on earth that was equal to, or more developed, than the group of mammals that now exist - I'm open to the possibility that some animals have become extinct: we know that probably millions of species have. Aliens living on earth, having travelled here, somehow? Sure, alien matter has crashed through our atmosphere and may have seeded some forms of life. The real issue that I have is that organic matter that lives here seems to exist in isolation as the basis for life and that advanced alien life travelling many light years in order to arrive here would likely have used some of their other technology, whilst they were living here. There's still only organic life, that appears to have followed a fairly simple trajectory, from earlier less sophisticated life forms, into what we have today. And there doesn't seem to be much evidence of technologies that are equivalent to that needed to travel vast distances across space that have been discovered, as far as I'm aware. What we do seem to have is a human predisposition to create religious belief systems, with probably many hundreds or thousands of them, in the period that humans have been around. The Anunnaki appears to be a regional belief system that is no more believable to myself, than any other that I'm aware of. It probably represents a fairly simple living group of people who accredited power to bodies outside of our world, such as the sun and planets. With limited understanding of the solar system, and with all food being dependent upon the sun, then I can appreciate how something outside of our planet may have been readily worshipped. As for the mythologies that have been developed in the past centuries, usually following publication of some author's book, I think the authors have largely been responsible for hyping up what they know, to the extent that fictional influences are portrayed more as facts. I think this has probably happened with the Anunnaki scenario, where gold digging authors have fabricated a narrative, for their own ends. I'm certainly open to evidence and haven't spent part of my scholarly life specialising in this subject matter. There's tons of horse shite around and plenty of people who will peddle it." Really good argument, thank you!, i think it could all stem from humans needing to believe that there must be some other reason why we are here. Other than just natural selection. Although some part of me is sceptical another part of me wants to believe that we aren't alone and there is a another higher more advanced race out there. What do you/everyone make of the accuracy at which the pyramids were built? They say, even in our age of technology we would struggle to do the same even with laser cutting tools etc. All they had were stone chisels. Incredible engineering either way. | |||
"I'm gonna like this thread. Not as much as I like the look of that very sexy arse you got there. he he"Tell me more | |||
"I like to be open minded and influenced by evidence. There doesn't seem to be much evidence of an earlier life form on earth that was equal to, or more developed, than the group of mammals that now exist - I'm open to the possibility that some animals have become extinct: we know that probably millions of species have. Aliens living on earth, having travelled here, somehow? Sure, alien matter has crashed through our atmosphere and may have seeded some forms of life. The real issue that I have is that organic matter that lives here seems to exist in isolation as the basis for life and that advanced alien life travelling many light years in order to arrive here would likely have used some of their other technology, whilst they were living here. There's still only organic life, that appears to have followed a fairly simple trajectory, from earlier less sophisticated life forms, into what we have today. And there doesn't seem to be much evidence of technologies that are equivalent to that needed to travel vast distances across space that have been discovered, as far as I'm aware. What we do seem to have is a human predisposition to create religious belief systems, with probably many hundreds or thousands of them, in the period that humans have been around. The Anunnaki appears to be a regional belief system that is no more believable to myself, than any other that I'm aware of. It probably represents a fairly simple living group of people who accredited power to bodies outside of our world, such as the sun and planets. With limited understanding of the solar system, and with all food being dependent upon the sun, then I can appreciate how something outside of our planet may have been readily worshipped. As for the mythologies that have been developed in the past centuries, usually following publication of some author's book, I think the authors have largely been responsible for hyping up what they know, to the extent that fictional influences are portrayed more as facts. I think this has probably happened with the Anunnaki scenario, where gold digging authors have fabricated a narrative, for their own ends. I'm certainly open to evidence and haven't spent part of my scholarly life specialising in this subject matter. There's tons of horse shite around and plenty of people who will peddle it. Really good argument, thank you!, i think it could all stem from humans needing to believe that there must be some other reason why we are here. Other than just natural selection. Although some part of me is sceptical another part of me wants to believe that we aren't alone and there is a another higher more advanced race out there. What do you/everyone make of the accuracy at which the pyramids were built? They say, even in our age of technology we would struggle to do the same even with laser cutting tools etc. All they had were stone chisels. Incredible engineering either way." What's so amazing about building a pyramid. It's one of the easiest structures to build of them all. Give a 3 or 4 year old a box of Lego and one of the first things they will build is a pyramid. It's also a very stable structure and pretty much self supporting. The reason why pyramids are common across many civilisations is because they're incredibly easy to build and deceptively impressive to behold. | |||
"I'm gonna like this thread. Not as much as I like the look of that very sexy arse you got there. he he
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"With hundreds of millions of stars in the galaxy and maybe billions of galaxy each with a comparable amount of stars, it's impossible that we are alone in the universe. How could they get here? Don't know but science doesn't know it all, I hate the way space travel is rubbished it's impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's our understanding of the physics. Who's to say some other civilisation thousands of years more advanced hasn't figured out a loop hole?" Impossible to travel faster than the speed of light huh? I think your understanding of physics is a bit off. Well, i personally often travel faster than the speed of light. The loop hole? What do you reckon the speed of light through a 6' cube of solid anthracite is? | |||
"With hundreds of millions of stars in the galaxy and maybe billions of galaxy each with a comparable amount of stars, it's impossible that we are alone in the universe. How could they get here? Don't know but science doesn't know it all, I hate the way space travel is rubbished it's impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's our understanding of the physics. Who's to say some other civilisation thousands of years more advanced hasn't figured out a loop hole? Impossible to travel faster than the speed of light huh? I think your understanding of physics is a bit off. Well, i personally often travel faster than the speed of light. The loop hole? What do you reckon the speed of light through a 6' cube of solid anthracite is? " There is a theory that sound can travel faster than light as sound has different frequency's and therefore travels at different speeds | |||
"With hundreds of millions of stars in the galaxy and maybe billions of galaxy each with a comparable amount of stars, it's impossible that we are alone in the universe. How could they get here? Don't know but science doesn't know it all, I hate the way space travel is rubbished it's impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's our understanding of the physics. Who's to say some other civilisation thousands of years more advanced hasn't figured out a loop hole? Impossible to travel faster than the speed of light huh? I think your understanding of physics is a bit off. Well, i personally often travel faster than the speed of light. The loop hole? What do you reckon the speed of light through a 6' cube of solid anthracite is? There is a theory that sound can travel faster than light as sound has different frequency's and therefore travels at different speeds" Partial fact rather than theory. What people often overlook is that light travels at many different speeds too. | |||
"With hundreds of millions of stars in the galaxy and maybe billions of galaxy each with a comparable amount of stars, it's impossible that we are alone in the universe. How could they get here? Don't know but science doesn't know it all, I hate the way space travel is rubbished it's impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's our understanding of the physics. Who's to say some other civilisation thousands of years more advanced hasn't figured out a loop hole? Impossible to travel faster than the speed of light huh? I think your understanding of physics is a bit off. Well, i personally often travel faster than the speed of light. The loop hole? What do you reckon the speed of light through a 6' cube of solid anthracite is? There is a theory that sound can travel faster than light as sound has different frequency's and therefore travels at different speeds Partial fact rather than theory. What people often overlook is that light travels at many different speeds too. " | |||
"With hundreds of millions of stars in the galaxy and maybe billions of galaxy each with a comparable amount of stars, it's impossible that we are alone in the universe. How could they get here? Don't know but science doesn't know it all, I hate the way space travel is rubbished it's impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's our understanding of the physics. Who's to say some other civilisation thousands of years more advanced hasn't figured out a loop hole? Impossible to travel faster than the speed of light huh? I think your understanding of physics is a bit off. Well, i personally often travel faster than the speed of light. The loop hole? What do you reckon the speed of light through a 6' cube of solid anthracite is? There is a theory that sound can travel faster than light as sound has different frequency's and therefore travels at different speeds Partial fact rather than theory. What people often overlook is that light travels at many different speeds too. "Proof : Some of those new f*cking compact flourescent light bulbs take ages to light up, long after you've flicked the switch. | |||
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"With hundreds of millions of stars in the galaxy and maybe billions of galaxy each with a comparable amount of stars, it's impossible that we are alone in the universe. How could they get here? Don't know but science doesn't know it all, I hate the way space travel is rubbished it's impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's our understanding of the physics. Who's to say some other civilisation thousands of years more advanced hasn't figured out a loop hole? Impossible to travel faster than the speed of light huh? I think your understanding of physics is a bit off. Well, i personally often travel faster than the speed of light. The loop hole? What do you reckon the speed of light through a 6' cube of solid anthracite is? There is a theory that sound can travel faster than light as sound has different frequency's and therefore travels at different speeds Partial fact rather than theory. What people often overlook is that light travels at many different speeds too. " What you on about? The speed of light is a universal constant and can not change. According to the theory of relativity NOTHING can travel faster than the speed of light. | |||
"What we are taught in school to do with history is mostly lies. We are being kept from the truth. And major events around the world happen for a reason. We can't be the only life form in this universe. Well the universe we are told to believe. The media of today is just propagander " Preach! my brother | |||
"What we are taught in school to do with history is mostly lies." Really? " We are being kept from the truth. " Maybe you can tell us all what the truth actually is then? " And major events around the world happen for a reason." Doesn't every thing in the universe happen for a reason? It's called cause and effect isn't it? " We can't be the only life form in this universe." Why can't we be the only life in the universe? " Well the universe we are told to believe." No one's told me to believe in any universe. " The media of today is just propaganda " Who's propaganda? | |||
" There is a theory that sound can travel faster than light as sound has different frequency's and therefore travels at different speeds" Which is why Jimmy Somerville sounds different to Eddie Vedder, why dogs can hear sounds that a human can't, but sound can never ever ever travel faster than light...ever! | |||
"The speed of light is a universal constant and can not change. According to the theory of relativity NOTHING can travel faster than the speed of light." Wonderful to know that the discovery of particles moving faster than light by CERN was false. Thanks for letting us all know. Now can you point us at your pier reviewed paper that backs up your statement? | |||
"With hundreds of millions of stars in the galaxy and maybe billions of galaxy each with a comparable amount of stars, it's impossible that we are alone in the universe. How could they get here? Don't know but science doesn't know it all, I hate the way space travel is rubbished it's impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's our understanding of the physics. Who's to say some other civilisation thousands of years more advanced hasn't figured out a loop hole? Impossible to travel faster than the speed of light huh? I think your understanding of physics is a bit off. Well, i personally often travel faster than the speed of light. The loop hole? What do you reckon the speed of light through a 6' cube of solid anthracite is? There is a theory that sound can travel faster than light as sound has different frequency's and therefore travels at different speeds Partial fact rather than theory. What people often overlook is that light travels at many different speeds too. What you on about? The speed of light is a universal constant and can not change. According to the theory of relativity NOTHING can travel faster than the speed of light." Well don't want to burst any ones bubble but there are some well respected physicists who believe the speed of light actually travels slower today than it did nearer the "Big Bang" So that's 1 constant which is being challenged as we speak . Him (I won't go on about my theory of other civilisations) It'd kill the thread lol | |||
"I like to be open minded and influenced by evidence. There doesn't seem to be much evidence of an earlier life form on earth that was equal to, or more developed, than the group of mammals that now exist - I'm open to the possibility that some animals have become extinct: we know that probably millions of species have. Aliens living on earth, having travelled here, somehow? Sure, alien matter has crashed through our atmosphere and may have seeded some forms of life. The real issue that I have is that organic matter that lives here seems to exist in isolation as the basis for life and that advanced alien life travelling many light years in order to arrive here would likely have used some of their other technology, whilst they were living here. There's still only organic life, that appears to have followed a fairly simple trajectory, from earlier less sophisticated life forms, into what we have today. And there doesn't seem to be much evidence of technologies that are equivalent to that needed to travel vast distances across space that have been discovered, as far as I'm aware. What we do seem to have is a human predisposition to create religious belief systems, with probably many hundreds or thousands of them, in the period that humans have been around. The Anunnaki appears to be a regional belief system that is no more believable to myself, than any other that I'm aware of. It probably represents a fairly simple living group of people who accredited power to bodies outside of our world, such as the sun and planets. With limited understanding of the solar system, and with all food being dependent upon the sun, then I can appreciate how something outside of our planet may have been readily worshipped. As for the mythologies that have been developed in the past centuries, usually following publication of some author's book, I think the authors have largely been responsible for hyping up what they know, to the extent that fictional influences are portrayed more as facts. I think this has probably happened with the Anunnaki scenario, where gold digging authors have fabricated a narrative, for their own ends. I'm certainly open to evidence and haven't spent part of my scholarly life specialising in this subject matter. There's tons of horse shite around and plenty of people who will peddle it. Really good argument, thank you!, i think it could all stem from humans needing to believe that there must be some other reason why we are here. Other than just natural selection. Although some part of me is sceptical another part of me wants to believe that we aren't alone and there is a another higher more advanced race out there. What do you/everyone make of the accuracy at which the pyramids were built? They say, even in our age of technology we would struggle to do the same even with laser cutting tools etc. All they had were stone chisels. Incredible engineering either way. What's so amazing about building a pyramid. It's one of the easiest structures to build of them all. Give a 3 or 4 year old a box of Lego and one of the first things they will build is a pyramid. It's also a very stable structure and pretty much self supporting. The reason why pyramids are common across many civilisations is because they're incredibly easy to build and deceptively impressive to behold." Sigh, its not the fact its a pyramid thats amazing, its the accuracy in which they were built. Even engineers and scientists today agree that we would struggle to do the same job even with all the tools we have at our disposal. | |||
"I like to be open minded and influenced by evidence. There doesn't seem to be much evidence of an earlier life form on earth that was equal to, or more developed, than the group of mammals that now exist - I'm open to the possibility that some animals have become extinct: we know that probably millions of species have. Aliens living on earth, having travelled here, somehow? Sure, alien matter has crashed through our atmosphere and may have seeded some forms of life. The real issue that I have is that organic matter that lives here seems to exist in isolation as the basis for life and that advanced alien life travelling many light years in order to arrive here would likely have used some of their other technology, whilst they were living here. There's still only organic life, that appears to have followed a fairly simple trajectory, from earlier less sophisticated life forms, into what we have today. And there doesn't seem to be much evidence of technologies that are equivalent to that needed to travel vast distances across space that have been discovered, as far as I'm aware. What we do seem to have is a human predisposition to create religious belief systems, with probably many hundreds or thousands of them, in the period that humans have been around. The Anunnaki appears to be a regional belief system that is no more believable to myself, than any other that I'm aware of. It probably represents a fairly simple living group of people who accredited power to bodies outside of our world, such as the sun and planets. With limited understanding of the solar system, and with all food being dependent upon the sun, then I can appreciate how something outside of our planet may have been readily worshipped. As for the mythologies that have been developed in the past centuries, usually following publication of some author's book, I think the authors have largely been responsible for hyping up what they know, to the extent that fictional influences are portrayed more as facts. I think this has probably happened with the Anunnaki scenario, where gold digging authors have fabricated a narrative, for their own ends. I'm certainly open to evidence and haven't spent part of my scholarly life specialising in this subject matter. There's tons of horse shite around and plenty of people who will peddle it. Really good argument, thank you!, i think it could all stem from humans needing to believe that there must be some other reason why we are here. Other than just natural selection. Although some part of me is sceptical another part of me wants to believe that we aren't alone and there is a another higher more advanced race out there. What do you/everyone make of the accuracy at which the pyramids were built? They say, even in our age of technology we would struggle to do the same even with laser cutting tools etc. All they had were stone chisels. Incredible engineering either way. What's so amazing about building a pyramid. It's one of the easiest structures to build of them all. Give a 3 or 4 year old a box of Lego and one of the first things they will build is a pyramid. It's also a very stable structure and pretty much self supporting. The reason why pyramids are common across many civilisations is because they're incredibly easy to build and deceptively impressive to behold. Sigh, its not the fact its a pyramid thats amazing, its the accuracy in which they were built. Even engineers and scientists today agree that we would struggle to do the same job even with all the tools we have at our disposal." Which engineers and scientists would agree? Do you have any quotes from reputable ones? Because otherwise simply throwing that comment in is not genuine evidence. | |||
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"I like to be open minded and influenced by evidence. There doesn't seem to be much evidence of an earlier life form on earth that was equal to, or more developed, than the group of mammals that now exist - I'm open to the possibility that some animals have become extinct: we know that probably millions of species have. Aliens living on earth, having travelled here, somehow? Sure, alien matter has crashed through our atmosphere and may have seeded some forms of life. The real issue that I have is that organic matter that lives here seems to exist in isolation as the basis for life and that advanced alien life travelling many light years in order to arrive here would likely have used some of their other technology, whilst they were living here. There's still only organic life, that appears to have followed a fairly simple trajectory, from earlier less sophisticated life forms, into what we have today. And there doesn't seem to be much evidence of technologies that are equivalent to that needed to travel vast distances across space that have been discovered, as far as I'm aware. What we do seem to have is a human predisposition to create religious belief systems, with probably many hundreds or thousands of them, in the period that humans have been around. The Anunnaki appears to be a regional belief system that is no more believable to myself, than any other that I'm aware of. It probably represents a fairly simple living group of people who accredited power to bodies outside of our world, such as the sun and planets. With limited understanding of the solar system, and with all food being dependent upon the sun, then I can appreciate how something outside of our planet may have been readily worshipped. As for the mythologies that have been developed in the past centuries, usually following publication of some author's book, I think the authors have largely been responsible for hyping up what they know, to the extent that fictional influences are portrayed more as facts. I think this has probably happened with the Anunnaki scenario, where gold digging authors have fabricated a narrative, for their own ends. I'm certainly open to evidence and haven't spent part of my scholarly life specialising in this subject matter. There's tons of horse shite around and plenty of people who will peddle it. Really good argument, thank you!, i think it could all stem from humans needing to believe that there must be some other reason why we are here. Other than just natural selection. Although some part of me is sceptical another part of me wants to believe that we aren't alone and there is a another higher more advanced race out there. What do you/everyone make of the accuracy at which the pyramids were built? They say, even in our age of technology we would struggle to do the same even with laser cutting tools etc. All they had were stone chisels. Incredible engineering either way. What's so amazing about building a pyramid. It's one of the easiest structures to build of them all. Give a 3 or 4 year old a box of Lego and one of the first things they will build is a pyramid. It's also a very stable structure and pretty much self supporting. The reason why pyramids are common across many civilisations is because they're incredibly easy to build and deceptively impressive to behold. Sigh, its not the fact its a pyramid thats amazing, its the accuracy in which they were built. Even engineers and scientists today agree that we would struggle to do the same job even with all the tools we have at our disposal." No they don't. There is nothing amazing about the accuracy. It's almost impossible to build a pyramid which is anything other than accurately a pyramid. Can you be specific about which part of building these pyramids required some sort of special accuracy? | |||
"The speed of light is a universal constant and can not change. According to the theory of relativity NOTHING can travel faster than the speed of light. Wonderful to know that the discovery of particles moving faster than light by CERN was false. " I'm guessing you are referring to the 2011 experiments at CERN relating to neutrinos. Maybe you should look more closely at the evidence? Even Antonio Ereditato, coordinator of the Opera collaboration, who conducted the experiment that produced the results, said this:- "We are very much astonished by this result, but a result is never a discovery until other people confirm it." And Susan Cartwright, senior lecturer in particle astrophysics at Sheffield University, said: "Neutrino experimental results are not historically all that reliable, so the words 'don't hold your breath' do spring to mind when you hear very counter-intuitive results like this." " Thanks for letting us all know. Now can you point us at your pier reviewed paper that backs up your statement?" A pier reviewed paper from me would be worthless, neither myself or my piers are expert in this field however I would refer you to a good pier reviewed paper on this subject entitled 'Special Relativity' and written by a guy called Albert Einstein. | |||
"I like to be open minded and influenced by evidence. There doesn't seem to be much evidence of an earlier life form on earth that was equal to, or more developed, than the group of mammals that now exist - I'm open to the possibility that some animals have become extinct: we know that probably millions of species have. Aliens living on earth, having travelled here, somehow? Sure, alien matter has crashed through our atmosphere and may have seeded some forms of life. The real issue that I have is that organic matter that lives here seems to exist in isolation as the basis for life and that advanced alien life travelling many light years in order to arrive here would likely have used some of their other technology, whilst they were living here. There's still only organic life, that appears to have followed a fairly simple trajectory, from earlier less sophisticated life forms, into what we have today. And there doesn't seem to be much evidence of technologies that are equivalent to that needed to travel vast distances across space that have been discovered, as far as I'm aware. What we do seem to have is a human predisposition to create religious belief systems, with probably many hundreds or thousands of them, in the period that humans have been around. The Anunnaki appears to be a regional belief system that is no more believable to myself, than any other that I'm aware of. It probably represents a fairly simple living group of people who accredited power to bodies outside of our world, such as the sun and planets. With limited understanding of the solar system, and with all food being dependent upon the sun, then I can appreciate how something outside of our planet may have been readily worshipped. As for the mythologies that have been developed in the past centuries, usually following publication of some author's book, I think the authors have largely been responsible for hyping up what they know, to the extent that fictional influences are portrayed more as facts. I think this has probably happened with the Anunnaki scenario, where gold digging authors have fabricated a narrative, for their own ends. I'm certainly open to evidence and haven't spent part of my scholarly life specialising in this subject matter. There's tons of horse shite around and plenty of people who will peddle it. Really good argument, thank you!, i think it could all stem from humans needing to believe that there must be some other reason why we are here. Other than just natural selection. Although some part of me is sceptical another part of me wants to believe that we aren't alone and there is a another higher more advanced race out there. What do you/everyone make of the accuracy at which the pyramids were built? They say, even in our age of technology we would struggle to do the same even with laser cutting tools etc. All they had were stone chisels. Incredible engineering either way. What's so amazing about building a pyramid. It's one of the easiest structures to build of them all. Give a 3 or 4 year old a box of Lego and one of the first things they will build is a pyramid. It's also a very stable structure and pretty much self supporting. The reason why pyramids are common across many civilisations is because they're incredibly easy to build and deceptively impressive to behold. Sigh, its not the fact its a pyramid thats amazing, its the accuracy in which they were built. Even engineers and scientists today agree that we would struggle to do the same job even with all the tools we have at our disposal. Which engineers and scientists would agree? Do you have any quotes from reputable ones? Because otherwise simply throwing that comment in is not genuine evidence. " I dont know any names or quotes, not really trying to prove or disproveanything i am just saying what i have learnt and interested in and asking for other peoples views | |||
"I like to be open minded and influenced by evidence. There doesn't seem to be much evidence of an earlier life form on earth that was equal to, or more developed, than the group of mammals that now exist - I'm open to the possibility that some animals have become extinct: we know that probably millions of species have. Aliens living on earth, having travelled here, somehow? Sure, alien matter has crashed through our atmosphere and may have seeded some forms of life. The real issue that I have is that organic matter that lives here seems to exist in isolation as the basis for life and that advanced alien life travelling many light years in order to arrive here would likely have used some of their other technology, whilst they were living here. There's still only organic life, that appears to have followed a fairly simple trajectory, from earlier less sophisticated life forms, into what we have today. And there doesn't seem to be much evidence of technologies that are equivalent to that needed to travel vast distances across space that have been discovered, as far as I'm aware. What we do seem to have is a human predisposition to create religious belief systems, with probably many hundreds or thousands of them, in the period that humans have been around. The Anunnaki appears to be a regional belief system that is no more believable to myself, than any other that I'm aware of. It probably represents a fairly simple living group of people who accredited power to bodies outside of our world, such as the sun and planets. With limited understanding of the solar system, and with all food being dependent upon the sun, then I can appreciate how something outside of our planet may have been readily worshipped. As for the mythologies that have been developed in the past centuries, usually following publication of some author's book, I think the authors have largely been responsible for hyping up what they know, to the extent that fictional influences are portrayed more as facts. I think this has probably happened with the Anunnaki scenario, where gold digging authors have fabricated a narrative, for their own ends. I'm certainly open to evidence and haven't spent part of my scholarly life specialising in this subject matter. There's tons of horse shite around and plenty of people who will peddle it. Really good argument, thank you!, i think it could all stem from humans needing to believe that there must be some other reason why we are here. Other than just natural selection. Although some part of me is sceptical another part of me wants to believe that we aren't alone and there is a another higher more advanced race out there. What do you/everyone make of the accuracy at which the pyramids were built? They say, even in our age of technology we would struggle to do the same even with laser cutting tools etc. All they had were stone chisels. Incredible engineering either way. What's so amazing about building a pyramid. It's one of the easiest structures to build of them all. Give a 3 or 4 year old a box of Lego and one of the first things they will build is a pyramid. It's also a very stable structure and pretty much self supporting. The reason why pyramids are common across many civilisations is because they're incredibly easy to build and deceptively impressive to behold. Sigh, its not the fact its a pyramid thats amazing, its the accuracy in which they were built. Even engineers and scientists today agree that we would struggle to do the same job even with all the tools we have at our disposal. No they don't. There is nothing amazing about the accuracy. It's almost impossible to build a pyramid which is anything other than accurately a pyramid. Can you be specific about which part of building these pyramids required some sort of special accuracy? " It was something to do with the distances of all the sides on a four sided pyramid, the tunnels inside them and the angles all measured back to Pi. Exactly. Some parts of them were acurate to 1/500s of an inch. I think one of the doors was 20 tonnes and so finely cut that when closed you couldnt tell it was there. It was balanced in such a way that it could be opened by pushing it with your hand. All the other pyramids in separate continents all were built the same way, and all line up with each other even though they are 20,000km apart the distances between them work back to pi as well. Not professing its all true but i find it really interesting. | |||
"It was something to do with the distances of all the sides on a four sided pyramid, the tunnels inside them and the angles all measured back to Pi. Exactly. Some parts of them were acurate to 1/500s of an inch. I think one of the doors was 20 tonnes and so finely cut that when closed you couldnt tell it was there. It was balanced in such a way that it could be opened by pushing it with your hand. All the other pyramids in separate continents all were built the same way, and all line up with each other even though they are 20,000km apart the distances between them work back to pi as well. Not professing its all true but i find it really interesting. "It'll be true. Evidence of maths has been around a long time, maths has probably been around for longer than the evidence has. | |||
"Ok there was a post earlier about the UK being a Christian country which opened a wider debate about religion in general, science and creation. To be honest i dont know what i TRULY believe, but i like to have an open mind a believe that really anything could be possible even the down right crazy. Primarily because how life came about on this planet is largely guess work with some credible theories and proof of evolution and such. Personally i think there is or has to be some truth in the theory that we weren't and arent the only advanced (if you can call us that) race to ever to be on this planet currently or previously. So i want to ask, whether you're christian, muslim, hindi, islam, mormon, pagan, agnostic, athiest whatever religion or belief, i want to ask you to pretend you have a blank canvas. Pretend that none of that exists and wonder if are we missing a much bigger picture. We all know, whether you want to admit it or not, that religion controls the masses and can distract clear thinking. I was reading about anunnaki the other day.Google it if you haven't heard of it. Its wild stuff sounds like its out of a movie, but the truth is, it could be true. Who are we to say its not? Ancient aliens, egypt's pyramids, sumerian culture, mayans the nazca lines etc... When you actually read about it with an open mind forgetting all you believe or think you know, there is a certain amount of plausibility. And for me too many coincidences to ignore. So before you laugh or dismiss it - think. Could it actually be possible... Keep it friendly and let the debate begin, this is for fun but also a serious question. "Have watched the Ancient Aliens TV series, and endless hours of different videos on these subjects on youtube. Egyptian culture, Sumerian culture, Mayan, etc, etc, could all seem to have possibility of what you and i may call "alien" influence, or what some call "alien" influence others may call religious influence. It could be that all religions on earth started from an ancient alien visitation on our planet, did'nt Jesus say "I am not of this earth"? Then if you look into it more, many theories now suggest aliens/ufos could be demons or demonic in nature, and coming here from other dimensions, not from other planets, just watch Trey Smiths videos on youtube Theory of everything and his videos on the nephilim, all interesting theories. Too much to write about it here, better to watch the videos. What is the purpose of alien abductions? Common theme seems to be about sex, and the removal of eggs or sperm, so could they be trying to make an alien/human hybrid species? The nephilim in many old religious texts were thought to be the result of human/Angelic or fallen Angel hybrids, could that be the modern day interpretation of what we now know as the ufo alien abduction phenomenon, and are they trying to re-create the nephilim? Not saying i believe in all this stuff but its entertaining viewing. | |||
"Ok there was a post earlier about the UK being a Christian country which opened a wider debate about religion in general, science and creation. To be honest i dont know what i TRULY believe, but i like to have an open mind a believe that really anything could be possible even the down right crazy. Primarily because how life came about on this planet is largely guess work with some credible theories and proof of evolution and such. Personally i think there is or has to be some truth in the theory that we weren't and arent the only advanced (if you can call us that) race to ever to be on this planet currently or previously. So i want to ask, whether you're christian, muslim, hindi, islam, mormon, pagan, agnostic, athiest whatever religion or belief, i want to ask you to pretend you have a blank canvas. Pretend that none of that exists and wonder if are we missing a much bigger picture. We all know, whether you want to admit it or not, that religion controls the masses and can distract clear thinking. I was reading about anunnaki the other day.Google it if you haven't heard of it. Its wild stuff sounds like its out of a movie, but the truth is, it could be true. Who are we to say its not? Ancient aliens, egypt's pyramids, sumerian culture, mayans the nazca lines etc... When you actually read about it with an open mind forgetting all you believe or think you know, there is a certain amount of plausibility. And for me too many coincidences to ignore. So before you laugh or dismiss it - think. Could it actually be possible... Keep it friendly and let the debate begin, this is for fun but also a serious question. "H2 channel as series called ancient aliens watch it theres more evidence to prove than disprove it. | |||
"I'm obsessed with Sci fi,and space so watch ancient aliens,and conspiracy stuff all the time.both highly entertaining.plausible?barely..probable?highly unlikely.. Unfortunately one of the side affects of people in the western world no longer believing in the Judeo/Christian God seems not to be that people take a more rational scientific approach to the unknown but rather that they seem even more susceptible to any idea that comes along.
I think its more that more and more people are beginning to question everything we are told. We live in a technological age of science. Christianity is quite a young faith and islam even younger. Jewish or hebrew faiths (the oldest ones) are only about 4000 years. The romans, before Christianity were polytheistic.
Beliefs change as do ideas. So why not believe in something different. Is believing in anunnaki or aliens any more absurd than believing that moses parted the red sea? Or that a guy in a boat got two of every animal (including ones from countries they hadn't even discovered) to avoid a flood...? Or even a big floaty dude called god with a magic finger?
Point i think i am making is that we weren't around and history can be hazy. So we simply don't know.
What i find amazing is that mayan pyramids, egypts pyramids, easter island and also pyramids in china (think its china) were all built at different times, all thousands of miles apart but they line up exactly to what would have been the old equitorial line. We scoff at the idea because its been made fantastical.
But i suppose i am asking could the theory be possible? And why not? "Most likely because it's the most practical way to stack rocks and ensure they won't fall down for a long time. | |||
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"With hundreds of millions of stars in the galaxy and maybe billions of galaxy each with a comparable amount of stars, it's impossible that we are alone in the universe. How could they get here? Don't know but science doesn't know it all, I hate the way space travel is rubbished it's impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's our understanding of the physics. Who's to say some other civilisation thousands of years more advanced hasn't figured out a loop hole? Impossible to travel faster than the speed of light huh? I think your understanding of physics is a bit off. Well, i personally often travel faster than the speed of light. The loop hole? What do you reckon the speed of light through a 6' cube of solid anthracite is? There is a theory that sound can travel faster than light as sound has different frequency's and therefore travels at different speeds Partial fact rather than theory. What people often overlook is that light travels at many different speeds too. What you on about? The speed of light is a universal constant and can not change. According to the theory of relativity NOTHING can travel faster than the speed of light." What am i on about? Elsewhere in this thread you quote Albert Einstein and that the speed of light is constant and yet you still need to ask me what i am on about? Basic physics, the Speed of Light. As professed by your very own Albert Einstein. Didn't he state something along the lines of ( the universal constant ) C being the speed of light IN A VACUUM. I'll leave you to find pier (sic) reviewed papers on whether a large cube of anthracite, a glass window pane or even the entire universe is a vacuum. | |||
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"With hundreds of millions of stars in the galaxy and maybe billions of galaxy each with a comparable amount of stars, it's impossible that we are alone in the universe. How could they get here? Don't know but science doesn't know it all, I hate the way space travel is rubbished it's impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's our understanding of the physics. Who's to say some other civilisation thousands of years more advanced hasn't figured out a loop hole?" We've figured out a loop hole it's the basis of star trek lol. You cannot move faster than the speed of light in space, however it is within the laws as we understand them to bed (warp) space and hence move in a ripple in space at nearly any speed. Though the limits of light speed aren't such an issue for space travel as a large enough ship (see project orion) with enough resources could reach a speed fast enough speed that the slowing of time would greatly reduce the number of generations needed to reach a far away solar system. | |||
"The speed of light is a universal constant and can not change. According to the theory of relativity NOTHING can travel faster than the speed of light. Wonderful to know that the discovery of particles moving faster than light by CERN was false. Thanks for letting us all know. Now can you point us at your pier reviewed paper that backs up your statement?" It was false one of the cables was not correctly fastened. The experiment when repeated with the equipment correctly set up did not produce a faster than light result (much to everyone's annoyance who'd been rapidly building their own versions of the equipment at great expense to repeat the experiment). The speed of light in a vaccum is constant in other media it is slower this can be seen at home. You will need a glass, some water and a spoon. Place the water and the spoon within the glass and notice how the spoon appears bent this is due to the difference in speed of light through air and water causing refraction. I belive the slowest we've gotten light to travel is under 20 meters per second | |||
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" What i find amazing is that mayan pyramids, egypts pyramids, easter island and also pyramids in china (think its china) were all built at different times, all thousands of miles apart but they line up exactly to what would have been the old equitorial line. We scoff at the idea because its been made fantastical. " Get a map and draw a line and proof it then. | |||
" What i find amazing is that mayan pyramids, egypts pyramids, easter island and also pyramids in china (think its china) were all built at different times, all thousands of miles apart but they line up exactly to what would have been the old equitorial line. We scoff at the idea because its been made fantastical. Get a map and draw a line and proof it then." Plenty maps drawn online have a look | |||
" What i find amazing is that mayan pyramids, egypts pyramids, easter island and also pyramids in china (think its china) were all built at different times, all thousands of miles apart but they line up exactly to what would have been the old equitorial line. We scoff at the idea because its been made fantastical. Get a map and draw a line and proof it then. Plenty maps drawn online have a look" I don't think that's miraculous if true. Even ancient people could see where the sun was directly overhead (that's the equator). | |||
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"Of course, the elephant in the room is if we were put here by another race, where did *they* come from? Doesn't exactly progress things much in terms of the big picture." It's turtles all the way down!!!! | |||
"With hundreds of millions of stars in the galaxy and maybe billions of galaxy each with a comparable amount of stars, it's impossible that we are alone in the universe. How could they get here? Don't know but science doesn't know it all, I hate the way space travel is rubbished it's impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's our understanding of the physics. Who's to say some other civilisation thousands of years more advanced hasn't figured out a loop hole? Impossible to travel faster than the speed of light huh? I think your understanding of physics is a bit off. Well, i personally often travel faster than the speed of light. The loop hole? What do you reckon the speed of light through a 6' cube of solid anthracite is? There is a theory that sound can travel faster than light as sound has different frequency's and therefore travels at different speeds Partial fact rather than theory. What people often overlook is that light travels at many different speeds too. What you on about? The speed of light is a universal constant and can not change. According to the theory of relativity NOTHING can travel faster than the speed of light. What am i on about? Elsewhere in this thread you quote Albert Einstein and that the speed of light is constant and yet you still need to ask me what i am on about? Basic physics, the Speed of Light. As professed by your very own Albert Einstein. Didn't he state something along the lines of ( the universal constant ) C being the speed of light IN A VACUUM. I'll leave you to find pier (sic) reviewed papers on whether a large cube of anthracite, a glass window pane or even the entire universe is a vacuum. " A good point but not actually correct. Light ALWAYS travels at the same speed, if it ever appears not to be then something else is actually happening. It's a long time since I did this in physics but it's something like this. When a photon of light hits an atom it is absorbed by the atom, this increases the energy of the atom which has to released back out of the atom in some way. How the atom releases this extra energy is what decides whether the material is opaque, translucent, transparent or reflective. In the case of a transparent substance, such as glass, when the photon hits the first atom it is absorbed and then a new photon is emitted at almost exactly the same frequency and trajectory from the other side. This happens in a continuous chain until finally a photon is released from an atom at the edge of the material and then it carries on along its way. Whilst this gives the effect of making the light look like its travelling slower than the real speed of light it never actually is, the delay is caused by the atom absorbing the original photon and then retransmitting a new one. | |||
"Of course, the elephant in the room is if we were put here by another race, where did *they* come from? Doesn't exactly progress things much in terms of the big picture." I think I made this same point some time ago but always worth pointing it out again | |||
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"I was reading about anunnaki the other day.Google it if you haven't heard of it. Its wild stuff sounds like its out of a movie, but the truth is, it could be true. Who are we to say its not? Ancient aliens, egypt's pyramids, sumerian culture, mayans the nazca lines etc... When you actually read about it with an open mind forgetting all you believe or think you know, there is a certain amount of plausibility. And for me too many coincidences to ignore. So before you laugh or dismiss it - think. Could it actually be possible... Keep it friendly and let the debate begin, this is for fun but also a serious question. "So the plot to Stargate in other words? | |||
"I reckon if the human race is the product of eons of evolution or kick started by gods or aliens or whatever....it aint gone well really has it... Look at the state of us..... "In what way do you think it could be better whilst still allowing us free will? | |||
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"What if we created ourselves? " Then just like all creator god concepts , one collapses into a nonsensical infinite regression xx | |||
"What if we created ourselves? Then just like all creator god concepts , one collapses into a nonsensical infinite regression xx" I like how we can imagine all sorts of possibilities though. If we created ourselves then we always have been, but because that seems impossible then it doesn't make sense. Well and evolution theories make sense obviously. I like how the more we learn and can observe, then imagine based on that, the closer we get to finding out what really happened. And it's amazing we were given the ability to do so. | |||
"I reckon if the human race is the product of eons of evolution or kick started by gods or aliens or whatever....it aint gone well really has it... Look at the state of us..... "Do you know of a more successful species? | |||
"I reckon if the human race is the product of eons of evolution or kick started by gods or aliens or whatever....it aint gone well really has it... Look at the state of us.....
Do you know of a more successful species?"Yes, every species that have no concept of money or religion. | |||
"I reckon if the human race is the product of eons of evolution or kick started by gods or aliens or whatever....it aint gone well really has it... Look at the state of us.....
Do you know of a more successful species?
Yes, every species that have no concept of money or religion.
"And the criteria for that success? | |||
"I reckon if the human race is the product of eons of evolution or kick started by gods or aliens or whatever....it aint gone well really has it... Look at the state of us.....
Do you know of a more successful species?
Yes, every species that have no concept of money or religion.
And the criteria for that success?
"Err, having no concept of money or religion! | |||
"I reckon if the human race is the product of eons of evolution or kick started by gods or aliens or whatever....it aint gone well really has it... Look at the state of us.....
Do you know of a more successful species?
Yes, every species that have no concept of money or religion.
"I dunno, pandas seem pretty unsuccessful. | |||
cockroaches have done well but I don't think I'd like to be one. | |||
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