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"Cuckolding rules and why it's so much fun for the couple / would more ladies like to cuckold there partners / love to try / ur thoughts out there in fab land / " A) no rules, more individual expectations really; B) 1000 couples, 1000 different reasons; C) impossible to quantify; D) not into it but fully appreciate of those who do. | |||
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"I want to try out a hotwife scenario " Would you make do with a luke warm one? | |||
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"I want to try out a hotwife scenario Would you make do with a luke warm one? " lol whats that? | |||
"I want to try out a hotwife scenario Would you make do with a luke warm one? lol whats that? " One of my crap puns, mate. | |||
"I want to try out a hotwife scenario Would you make do with a luke warm one? lol whats that? One of my crap puns, mate. " Ah yes pal, its a good one tho lol | |||
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"I think most guys wanna be cuckolded. The amount of guys who want to know what you got up to on a meet, or wish you well when they want a meet but you tell them you already have a meet. " Most guys don't want to be cuckolded Most guys don't even want to share their beer | |||
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"Cuckolding rules and why it's so much fun for the couple / would more ladies like to cuckold there partners / love to try / ur thoughts out there in fab land / A) no rules, more individual expectations really; B) 1000 couples, 1000 different reasons; C) impossible to quantify; D) not into it but fully appreciate of those who do. " Top answer, here endeth the lesson! | |||
"I think most guys wanna be cuckolded. The amount of guys who want to know what you got up to on a meet, or wish you well when they want a meet but you tell them you already have a meet. Most guys don't want to be cuckolded Most guys don't even want to share their beer" Might just be the ones i get interest from then? I probably do attract guys who like women who fuck a lot of guys. | |||
"I think most guys wanna be cuckolded. The amount of guys who want to know what you got up to on a meet, or wish you well when they want a meet but you tell them you already have a meet. " They definitely don't. I'd say what you've described above is just common courtesy. | |||
"I'm after a cuckold husband for LTR obviously My reasons Well after my second divorce 13 years ago I joined websites and swingers clubs for sex because I had 3 children at home And I didn't need or want a boyfriend Now I want a boyfriend and don't want to give my glorious slut lifestyle So a cuckold male would suit me very much " Why would they have to be a cuckold, and not just a fellow swinger..? | |||
"I'm after a cuckold husband for LTR obviously My reasons Well after my second divorce 13 years ago I joined websites and swingers clubs for sex because I had 3 children at home And I didn't need or want a boyfriend Now I want a boyfriend and don't want to give my glorious slut lifestyle So a cuckold male would suit me very much Why would they have to be a cuckold, and not just a fellow swinger..?" Because I'm not a swinger I'd not date a swinger no I'm not into sharing my man | |||
"I'm after a cuckold husband for LTR obviously My reasons Well after my second divorce 13 years ago I joined websites and swingers clubs for sex because I had 3 children at home And I didn't need or want a boyfriend Now I want a boyfriend and don't want to give my glorious slut lifestyle So a cuckold male would suit me very much Why would they have to be a cuckold, and not just a fellow swinger..? Because I'm not a swinger I'd not date a swinger no I'm not into sharing my man " Fair enough. Good luck in your search, I think most blokes would feel the same though.. | |||
"I'm after a cuckold husband for LTR obviously My reasons Well after my second divorce 13 years ago I joined websites and swingers clubs for sex because I had 3 children at home And I didn't need or want a boyfriend Now I want a boyfriend and don't want to give my glorious slut lifestyle So a cuckold male would suit me very much Why would they have to be a cuckold, and not just a fellow swinger..? Because I'm not a swinger I'd not date a swinger no I'm not into sharing my man Fair enough. Good luck in your search, I think most blokes would feel the same though.. " Untrue | |||
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"I'm after a cuckold husband for LTR obviously My reasons Well after my second divorce 13 years ago I joined websites and swingers clubs for sex because I had 3 children at home And I didn't need or want a boyfriend Now I want a boyfriend and don't want to give my glorious slut lifestyle So a cuckold male would suit me very much Why would they have to be a cuckold, and not just a fellow swinger..? Because I'm not a swinger I'd not date a swinger no I'm not into sharing my man Fair enough. Good luck in your search, I think most blokes would feel the same though.. Untrue " I hope for you it is.. | |||
"I'm after a cuckold husband for LTR obviously My reasons Well after my second divorce 13 years ago I joined websites and swingers clubs for sex because I had 3 children at home And I didn't need or want a boyfriend Now I want a boyfriend and don't want to give my glorious slut lifestyle So a cuckold male would suit me very much Why would they have to be a cuckold, and not just a fellow swinger..? Because I'm not a swinger I'd not date a swinger no I'm not into sharing my man Fair enough. Good luck in your search, I think most blokes would feel the same though.. Untrue I hope for you it is.." Me too Too be fair I've had plenty of offers Just not my type Or something else isn't right Like they're dom Or have too many children under 16 I know what I'm after xxx | |||
"I think most guys wanna be cuckolded. The amount of guys who want to know what you got up to on a meet, or wish you well when they want a meet but you tell them you already have a meet. They definitely don't. I'd say what you've described above is just common courtesy. " Most of the ones i chat to and meet with do. Some even specifically ask me to fuck other guys before i meet them, which i've usually done before they contact me anyway. I think many guys also don't care too, never asked them and they don't bring anything up, but pretty much every guy i've met on here is well into the fact that i've been fucked already by someone else or i'm gonna fuck someone after them. | |||
"I think most guys wanna be cuckolded. The amount of guys who want to know what you got up to on a meet, or wish you well when they want a meet but you tell them you already have a meet. They definitely don't. I'd say what you've described above is just common courtesy. Most of the ones i chat to and meet with do. Some even specifically ask me to fuck other guys before i meet them, which i've usually done before they contact me anyway. I think many guys also don't care too, never asked them and they don't bring anything up, but pretty much every guy i've met on here is well into the fact that i've been fucked already by someone else or i'm gonna fuck someone after them." So many men want to be next and know that there's been someone in me before I agree Loads that message me love to know and be next in line | |||
"I think most guys wanna be cuckolded. The amount of guys who want to know what you got up to on a meet, or wish you well when they want a meet but you tell them you already have a meet. They definitely don't. I'd say what you've described above is just common courtesy. Most of the ones i chat to and meet with do. Some even specifically ask me to fuck other guys before i meet them, which i've usually done before they contact me anyway. I think many guys also don't care too, never asked them and they don't bring anything up, but pretty much every guy i've met on here is well into the fact that i've been fucked already by someone else or i'm gonna fuck someone after them. So many men want to be next and know that there's been someone in me before I agree Loads that message me love to know and be next in line " | |||
"I think most guys wanna be cuckolded. The amount of guys who want to know what you got up to on a meet, or wish you well when they want a meet but you tell them you already have a meet. They definitely don't. I'd say what you've described above is just common courtesy. Most of the ones i chat to and meet with do. Some even specifically ask me to fuck other guys before i meet them, which i've usually done before they contact me anyway. I think many guys also don't care too, never asked them and they don't bring anything up, but pretty much every guy i've met on here is well into the fact that i've been fucked already by someone else or i'm gonna fuck someone after them. So many men want to be next and know that there's been someone in me before I agree Loads that message me love to know and be next in line " I love it, if a guy asks me to fuck others i always hope he's gonna become a regular. | |||
" Me too Too be fair I've had plenty of offers Just not my type Or something else isn't right Like they're dom Or have too many children under 16 I know what I'm after xxx " A lot of guys lie to get sex that's the problem | |||
" Me too Too be fair I've had plenty of offers Just not my type Or something else isn't right Like they're dom Or have too many children under 16 I know what I'm after xxx A lot of guys lie to get sex that's the problem" That's not the main problem Like I said I've had good offers | |||
" Most of the ones i chat to and meet with do. Some even specifically ask me to fuck other guys before i meet them, which i've usually done before they contact me anyway. I think many guys also don't care too, never asked them and they don't bring anything up, but pretty much every guy i've met on here is well into the fact that i've been fucked already by someone else or i'm gonna fuck someone after them." Oh if you mean the guys on here, then yes, a disproportionate amount probably do have a thing for it. Yeah i'd say majority don't care when it's casual, but the vast majority of men, and women, don't want to watch their most intimate partner get fucked by someone else in the real world.. | |||
" Most of the ones i chat to and meet with do. Some even specifically ask me to fuck other guys before i meet them, which i've usually done before they contact me anyway. I think many guys also don't care too, never asked them and they don't bring anything up, but pretty much every guy i've met on here is well into the fact that i've been fucked already by someone else or i'm gonna fuck someone after them. Oh if you mean the guys on here, then yes, a disproportionate amount probably do have a thing for it. Yeah i'd say majority don't care when it's casual, but the vast majority of men, and women, don't want to watch their most intimate partner get fucked by someone else in the real world.. " Yes they do Its a swingers site lol | |||
" Me too Too be fair I've had plenty of offers Just not my type Or something else isn't right Like they're dom Or have too many children under 16 I know what I'm after xxx A lot of guys lie to get sex that's the problem That's not the main problem Like I said I've had good offers " How can you be sure they were genuine..? The guy who was Dom is a prime example of someone pretending to be someone they are not. I find the topic interesting; you see loads of guys wanting to be involved with couples as the 'Bull', and obviously plenty of couples with cuck guys, never seen a single male openly advertising their desire to be a cuckold though. Makes me wonder what changes psychologically.. But yeah hope you find what you are looking for. | |||
" Most of the ones i chat to and meet with do. Some even specifically ask me to fuck other guys before i meet them, which i've usually done before they contact me anyway. I think many guys also don't care too, never asked them and they don't bring anything up, but pretty much every guy i've met on here is well into the fact that i've been fucked already by someone else or i'm gonna fuck someone after them. Oh if you mean the guys on here, then yes, a disproportionate amount probably do have a thing for it. Yeah i'd say majority don't care when it's casual, but the vast majority of men, and women, don't want to watch their most intimate partner get fucked by someone else in the real world.. " I got for naturally submissive guys when it comes to anything off here. They tend to like it too. But yeah on here there's loads of guys like it. | |||
" Yes they do Its a swingers site lol " She said most guys though, not most guys on swingers sites. Just clarifying. | |||
"I go for naturally submissive guys when it comes to anything off here. " By off here i mean not on here. | |||
"I go for naturally submissive guys when it comes to anything off here. By off here i mean not on here." Ah ok. Well yeah I imagine the dynamic is different between a sub and a cuck guy though. Obviously there is some cross over, but i would imagine a sub guy is just going along with whatever pleases you, and not specifically being turned on by another man fucking you like a cuck would. | |||
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"I go for naturally submissive guys when it comes to anything off here. By off here i mean not on here. Ah ok. Well yeah I imagine the dynamic is different between a sub and a cuck guy though. Obviously there is some cross over, but i would imagine a sub guy is just going along with whatever pleases you, and not specifically being turned on by another man fucking you like a cuck would. " Not necessarily. Sub guys won't put up with anything, well some might but i wouldn't wanna be with a weak guy, i like strong guys who submit to me AND enjoy the same things as me. I actually let sub guys take the lead when i first meet them, i tell them they have to prompt me to do stuff, and this is so i have an idea what they're actually into. In fact some guys do this anyway, think it's called topping from the bottom, but it gives me enough confidence to eventually take the lead because i know what they like. Loads of them not only like the idea of me fucking someone else but they often want me to force them to do stuff to the guy as well. Lol when i say loads i've not met every single one, but i tend to only socialise with sub guys on here and irl. This is how i've found them to be. I like it and that's why i seek out more. | |||
"Yeah.... I would say most people don't want to share anything. You can be so engrossed in your own world, that you think everyone is like yourself (or your friends)." Non of my regular friends are into anything like fab So I have like everyone else here, a fab world and a real world And I've met so many men that want a slutwife across both worlds To be honest with you They tend not to iinform their male friends so women like me and my Chorley lady friend are far more aware of this than you xx | |||
"Yeah.... I would say most people don't want to share anything. You can be so engrossed in your own world, that you think everyone is like yourself (or your friends). Non of my regular friends are into anything like fab So I have like everyone else here, a fab world and a real world And I've met so many men that want a slutwife across both worlds To be honest with you They tend not to iinform their male friends so women like me and my Chorley lady friend are far more aware of this than you xx " Maybe you are, but I'd be willing to be statistically the of the 7.5B people on planet earth, less than 10% would even want to share a glass of water with you. | |||
"Yeah.... I would say most people don't want to share anything. You can be so engrossed in your own world, that you think everyone is like yourself (or your friends). Non of my regular friends are into anything like fab So I have like everyone else here, a fab world and a real world And I've met so many men that want a slutwife across both worlds To be honest with you They tend not to iinform their male friends so women like me and my Chorley lady friend are far more aware of this than you xx Maybe you are, but I'd be willing to be statistically the of the 7.5B people on planet earth, less than 10% would even want to share a glass of water with you." Oh they probably would I do voluntry work on a weekly basis And if course I am involved in my local church So the people I associate with absolutely would without question | |||
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"Yeah.... I would say most people don't want to share anything. You can be so engrossed in your own world, that you think everyone is like yourself (or your friends). Non of my regular friends are into anything like fab So I have like everyone else here, a fab world and a real world And I've met so many men that want a slutwife across both worlds To be honest with you They tend not to iinform their male friends so women like me and my Chorley lady friend are far more aware of this than you xx Maybe you are, but I'd be willing to be statistically the of the 7.5B people on planet earth, less than 10% would even want to share a glass of water with you. Oh they probably would I do voluntry work on a weekly basis And if course I am involved in my local church So the people I associate with absolutely would without question " And yet we happily murder each other over black sludge and strips of green paper, with dead people printed on them.... | |||
"And yet we happily murder each other over black sludge and strips of green paper, with dead people printed on them...." I wouldn't kill anyone for money, i've even gone hungry rather than steal food (regret it now i'm old enough to reason that nobody should starve). I'd only kill to protect my family. You're making the mistake that everyone involved in what goes on in the world is a particpant by choice. I know my taxes fund this stuff, my alternative is to go to prison. I protest against this stuff, always have done, even talked my son out of joining the army when he was desperate for money. | |||
"And yet we happily murder each other over black sludge and strips of green paper, with dead people printed on them.... I wouldn't kill anyone for money, i've even gone hungry rather than steal food (regret it now i'm old enough to reason that nobody should starve). I'd only kill to protect my family. You're making the mistake that everyone involved in what goes on in the world is a particpant by choice. I know my taxes fund this stuff, my alternative is to go to prison. I protest against this stuff, always have done, even talked my son out of joining the army when he was desperate for money." It's easy to protest when someone else ensures your protected and safe... Fact is that some very bad people, who do very bad things allow us to live our nice little lives... | |||
" It's easy to protest when someone else ensures your protected and safe... Fact is that some very bad people, who do very bad things allow us to live our nice little lives..." Logic is slightly twisted there. The people 'keeping us safe' are the same people that across a border we would need protecting from. | |||
"And yet we happily murder each other over black sludge and strips of green paper, with dead people printed on them.... I wouldn't kill anyone for money, i've even gone hungry rather than steal food (regret it now i'm old enough to reason that nobody should starve). I'd only kill to protect my family. You're making the mistake that everyone involved in what goes on in the world is a particpant by choice. I know my taxes fund this stuff, my alternative is to go to prison. I protest against this stuff, always have done, even talked my son out of joining the army when he was desperate for money. It's easy to protest when someone else ensures your protected and safe... Fact is that some very bad people, who do very bad things allow us to live our nice little lives..." I still wouldn't kill anyone for money. | |||
" It's easy to protest when someone else ensures your protected and safe... Fact is that some very bad people, who do very bad things allow us to live our nice little lives... Logic is slightly twisted there. The people 'keeping us safe' are the same people that across a border we would need protecting from. " Well yes, it's the theory of mutual destruction... You may not like it, but it's still there. | |||
"And yet we happily murder each other over black sludge and strips of green paper, with dead people printed on them.... I wouldn't kill anyone for money, i've even gone hungry rather than steal food (regret it now i'm old enough to reason that nobody should starve). I'd only kill to protect my family. You're making the mistake that everyone involved in what goes on in the world is a particpant by choice. I know my taxes fund this stuff, my alternative is to go to prison. I protest against this stuff, always have done, even talked my son out of joining the army when he was desperate for money. It's easy to protest when someone else ensures your protected and safe... Fact is that some very bad people, who do very bad things allow us to live our nice little lives... I still wouldn't kill anyone for money." Oh and you effectively do, your one of us. It's a 0 sum game and your on one of the winning teams. You almost don't get a choice in this. You live here, it's done for you. | |||
" Logic is slightly twisted there. The people 'keeping us safe' are the same people that across a border we would need protecting from. Well yes, it's the theory of mutual destruction... You may not like it, but it's still there." My point being that those very bad people are not allowing us to lead our lives, they are actually holding humanity back. The vaaaast majority of the human race are peaceful and loving. | |||
"And yet we happily murder each other over black sludge and strips of green paper, with dead people printed on them.... I wouldn't kill anyone for money, i've even gone hungry rather than steal food (regret it now i'm old enough to reason that nobody should starve). I'd only kill to protect my family. You're making the mistake that everyone involved in what goes on in the world is a particpant by choice. I know my taxes fund this stuff, my alternative is to go to prison. I protest against this stuff, always have done, even talked my son out of joining the army when he was desperate for money. It's easy to protest when someone else ensures your protected and safe... Fact is that some very bad people, who do very bad things allow us to live our nice little lives... I still wouldn't kill anyone for money." Me neither | |||
"Oh and you effectively do, your one of us. It's a 0 sum game and your on one of the winning teams. You almost don't get a choice in this. You live here, it's done for you." What's your point exactly? I don't understand any of the above. | |||
"Oh and you effectively do, your one of us. It's a 0 sum game and your on one of the winning teams. You almost don't get a choice in this. You live here, it's done for you. What's your point exactly? I don't understand any of the above." Point is, there is a lot of dirty work that is done in your name. That's all nothing sinister. | |||
"And yet we happily murder each other over black sludge and strips of green paper, with dead people printed on them.... I wouldn't kill anyone for money, i've even gone hungry rather than steal food (regret it now i'm old enough to reason that nobody should starve). I'd only kill to protect my family. You're making the mistake that everyone involved in what goes on in the world is a particpant by choice. I know my taxes fund this stuff, my alternative is to go to prison. I protest against this stuff, always have done, even talked my son out of joining the army when he was desperate for money. It's easy to protest when someone else ensures your protected and safe... Fact is that some very bad people, who do very bad things allow us to live our nice little lives... I still wouldn't kill anyone for money. Me neither " By your omissions you probably already do. | |||
" Logic is slightly twisted there. The people 'keeping us safe' are the same people that across a border we would need protecting from. Well yes, it's the theory of mutual destruction... You may not like it, but it's still there. My point being that those very bad people are not allowing us to lead our lives, they are actually holding humanity back. The vaaaast majority of the human race are peaceful and loving. " They are because they are allowed/made to be. They live in a supermarket world, buying their prepackaged diamonds and fuel. Consuming their products made from raw materials obtained by the barrel of a gun. Chemicals that make their lives easier and have destroyed hundreds of square miles of ecosystems, in some far off land. By hey "I don't hurt anybody, so I must be good". And yes you can only live within the confines of your own society, well done. But if your inquisitive there's more to it. | |||
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"Point is, there is a lot of dirty work that is done in your name. That's all nothing sinister." So basically you are referring to the part where i'm forced to pay taxes, but also additional things as well? I'm guessing this from your reply to someone else, it looks like you're referring to consumerism. I shop local, using small businesses, because i know improving the economy in my area is better for me and the area i live in than contributing to the global economy, so i don't use global chains if i don't have to. Benefits to me is my shopping bill is less and we have seen an improvement in diet as well, and these shops can stay open and fund local taxes that benefit my area. And i buy as much as i can 2nd hand because i can get good quality stuff that i can use for a decent price. But yeah i contribute to things i shouldn't do because i want things for myself and don't want to be left behind or miss out. Ethically i know forcing people to do things is wrong, i have a decent idea of how everything works and how exploitation is forced onto people so i can benefit from it, and exploitation isn't a bad thing because people want things and are willing to give up some of what they have for some of what they want- and i know the way the economy works, and society works, is so that some will be more exploited than others, or some will be forced to do things they don't want to just to survive, and i know this type of exploitation is wrong but societies put up with it because there is no alternative to being exploited, and i know it's wrong because the majority of people have feelings, wants, needs, desires and they're all exploited so that others can be more exploited than we are, and the only thing i don't know is why they are doing it. I don't know why we all have to be forced to agree to their agenda because their agenda doesn't make sense, to me. | |||
"Point is, there is a lot of dirty work that is done in your name. That's all nothing sinister. So basically you are referring to the part where i'm forced to pay taxes, but also additional things as well? I'm guessing this from your reply to someone else, it looks like you're referring to consumerism. I shop local, using small businesses, because i know improving the economy in my area is better for me and the area i live in than contributing to the global economy, so i don't use global chains if i don't have to. Benefits to me is my shopping bill is less and we have seen an improvement in diet as well, and these shops can stay open and fund local taxes that benefit my area. And i buy as much as i can 2nd hand because i can get good quality stuff that i can use for a decent price. But yeah i contribute to things i shouldn't do because i want things for myself and don't want to be left behind or miss out. Ethically i know forcing people to do things is wrong, i have a decent idea of how everything works and how exploitation is forced onto people so i can benefit from it, and exploitation isn't a bad thing because people want things and are willing to give up some of what they have for some of what they want- and i know the way the economy works, and society works, is so that some will be more exploited than others, or some will be forced to do things they don't want to just to survive, and i know this type of exploitation is wrong but societies put up with it because there is no alternative to being exploited, and i know it's wrong because the majority of people have feelings, wants, needs, desires and they're all exploited so that others can be more exploited than we are, and the only thing i don't know is why they are doing it. I don't know why we all have to be forced to agree to their agenda because their agenda doesn't make sense, to me. " A good point, well presented... I wasn't just referring to consumerism, more the whole New World Order, globalised, industrial military complex, international financial markets system.... Everything?... But I do love a good spanner in the works, a monkey in the wrench! I use all of the benefits western society best owes upon us, but will not hesitate at the chance to break or in this case challenge the rules... And I'm no sonic, I see good in people way before the bad and am quite happy to balance out bad acts with good deeds. But underneath this what I was really saying is "I refuse to deal in absolutes". Especially from one persons/groups point of view. Hence I don't beleive that a massively disproportionate amount of people want to share. | |||
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"Also I have been in conversations with people with the opposite point of view. The general argument here is that the person being shared is only doing so to please their partner or they are selfish and can't control themselves or just plain disgusting. And again I have taken the stance of there being millions of reasons for that not to be the case. It's not that I dissagree with your ideas, in fact I champion them, I just don't beleive that numbers and percentages plucked out of thin air and wielded like the big mace of facts, helps anyone." I'm not a big believer in statistics either, they're never accurate enough to get a proper result, not just because of how they gather the stats in the first place but mainly because of this. I really do think most guys would like to share, but that's from my previous experience and down to the circles i hang round in. But i will agree to disagree coz we are both coming from our own prospectives and don't know the actual figure. Would have been better if i'd said "most of the guys i know enjoy cuckolding", which means nothing when it comes to overall men. | |||
"Point is, there is a lot of dirty work that is done in your name. That's all nothing sinister. So basically you are referring to the part where i'm forced to pay taxes, but also additional things as well? I'm guessing this from your reply to someone else, it looks like you're referring to consumerism. I shop local, using small businesses, because i know improving the economy in my area is better for me and the area i live in than contributing to the global economy, so i don't use global chains if i don't have to. Benefits to me is my shopping bill is less and we have seen an improvement in diet as well, and these shops can stay open and fund local taxes that benefit my area. And i buy as much as i can 2nd hand because i can get good quality stuff that i can use for a decent price. But yeah i contribute to things i shouldn't do because i want things for myself and don't want to be left behind or miss out. Ethically i know forcing people to do things is wrong, i have a decent idea of how everything works and how exploitation is forced onto people so i can benefit from it, and exploitation isn't a bad thing because people want things and are willing to give up some of what they have for some of what they want- and i know the way the economy works, and society works, is so that some will be more exploited than others, or some will be forced to do things they don't want to just to survive, and i know this type of exploitation is wrong but societies put up with it because there is no alternative to being exploited, and i know it's wrong because the majority of people have feelings, wants, needs, desires and they're all exploited so that others can be more exploited than we are, and the only thing i don't know is why they are doing it. I don't know why we all have to be forced to agree to their agenda because their agenda doesn't make sense, to me. A good point, well presented... I wasn't just referring to consumerism, more the whole New World Order, globalised, industrial military complex, international financial markets system.... Everything?... But I do love a good spanner in the works, a monkey in the wrench! I use all of the benefits western society best owes upon us, but will not hesitate at the chance to break or in this case challenge the rules... And I'm no sonic, I see good in people way before the bad and am quite happy to balance out bad acts with good deeds. But underneath this what I was really saying is "I refuse to deal in absolutes". Especially from one persons/groups point of view. Hence I don't beleive that a massively disproportionate amount of people want to share." Yeah NWO was the agenda really, i was also talking about everything. I know things can be fair and should be but unfortunately i do see that most people just want to live their life in comfort and be happy, most people don't care to control the world...lol most can't even control their own lives or want to, but the ones who make it their mission to get to the top and 'succeed' and want the power, well they're fucked up in the head and they're slowly changing societies so that their agenda also becomes a success. People themselves are responsible too, but they don't have that power and they don't have that mindset, so their responsibility means nothing compared to those who have the actual power to change everything. And those with that power don't wish to change anything, that's not what they're agendas about. They're about control, they act like we lie in a world of order when we don't, we live in chaos and things change all the time, they should change, change is how we all survive and grow as a species. | |||