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Life in Britain after May 07th with a Labour led coalition. Your predictions
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
I will start
The FT will crash in the immediate aftermath of the election as big business gives its verdict. Thereafter through the summer a period of calm as the UK carries on until the Autumn. I predict a flight of top end capital and talent as the big rollers vote with their feet and decide to run their UK businesses from elsewhere. First alarm bells ring in Autumn when CT tax receipts drop significantly followed by a significant drop in self assessment income in early 2016. The labour govt blames the selfish rich for avoiding tax and promises a crackdown but in the meantime tax rises come in the spring budget to fiull the gap as well as a decision to put off the budget balance until 2017 because of extenuating circumstances. The economy goes back into deficit within 12 months and get worse the following year as unemployment also increases. Labour announce a further tax rise to plug the gap in the Autum statement of 2016 but by early 2017 they are out on their arses after a vote of NO CONFIDENCE. |
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over a year ago
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"I predict, my life will carry on exactly as it has before....
Never once noticed any of the other changes. "
True
I doubt it will make any different what to me at all whoever gets in as you say it's never made the slightest difference in the past |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I will start
The FT will crash in the immediate aftermath of the election as big business gives its verdict. Thereafter through the summer a period of calm as the UK carries on until the Autumn. I predict a flight of top end capital and talent as the big rollers vote with their feet and decide to run their UK businesses from elsewhere. First alarm bells ring in Autumn when CT tax receipts drop significantly followed by a significant drop in self assessment income in early 2016. The labour govt blames the selfish rich for avoiding tax and promises a crackdown but in the meantime tax rises come in the spring budget to fiull the gap as well as a decision to put off the budget balance until 2017 because of extenuating circumstances. The economy goes back into deficit within 12 months and get worse the following year as unemployment also increases. Labour announce a further tax rise to plug the gap in the Autum statement of 2016 but by early 2017 they are out on their arses after a vote of NO CONFIDENCE."
And what will happen if the tories get in? |
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"I will start
The FT will crash in the immediate aftermath of the election as big business gives its verdict. Thereafter through the summer a period of calm as the UK carries on until the Autumn. I predict a flight of top end capital and talent as the big rollers vote with their feet and decide to run their UK businesses from elsewhere. First alarm bells ring in Autumn when CT tax receipts drop significantly followed by a significant drop in self assessment income in early 2016. The labour govt blames the selfish rich for avoiding tax and promises a crackdown but in the meantime tax rises come in the spring budget to fiull the gap as well as a decision to put off the budget balance until 2017 because of extenuating circumstances. The economy goes back into deficit within 12 months and get worse the following year as unemployment also increases. Labour announce a further tax rise to plug the gap in the Autum statement of 2016 but by early 2017 they are out on their arses after a vote of NO CONFIDENCE.
And what will happen if the tories get in?"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And what will happen if the tories get in?"
They will finish the job of clearing up the mess and put the countries finances back in the black - as they did the last time they followed a Labour government |
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over a year ago
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"I predict, my life will carry on exactly as it has before....
Never once noticed any of the other changes. "
Exactly. Worry for me this time is the tory hidden agenda of replacing the NHS with an American style system. Not that I have or ever will vote for the blue twats lol |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
"I predict, my life will carry on exactly as it has before....
Never once noticed any of the other changes.
Exactly. Worry for me this time is the tory hidden agenda of replacing the NHS with an American style system. Not that I have or ever will vote for the blue twats lol"
Do you know how many countries in the world there are apart from the UK and USA? many of them have excellent health services. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I predict, my life will carry on exactly as it has before....
Never once noticed any of the other changes.
Exactly. Worry for me this time is the tory hidden agenda of replacing the NHS with an American style system. Not that I have or ever will vote for the blue twats lol"
...which, incidentally, was something that Tony Blair began implementing |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And what will happen if the tories get in?
They will finish the job of clearing up the mess and put the countries finances back in the black - as they did the last time they followed a Labour government"
That will be the mess that lamont created when he got the pound dicked over then? |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
"See we can both interpret things how we like lol"
No you can make things up or tell the truth. A truly socialist Labour government has fucked the economy every time they have had control over it. Only Blair managed it well BECAUSE he understood the value of big business.
Making an enemy of the person who pays most of your bills is not the way to go but unfortunately true Labour know no other way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And what will happen if the tories get in?
They will finish the job of clearing up the mess and put the countries finances back in the black - as they did the last time they followed a Labour government
That will be the mess that lamont created when he got the pound dicked over then?"
Think you'll find that was James Callaghan in 1967 who was the Chancellor of Harold Wilson's Labour government. Look up devaluation of Pound Sterling. The facts speak for themselves. |
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By *hil153Man
over a year ago
Bournemouth |
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it."
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!! |
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Well the Tories have sold off 70% of probation. But it's Ok because it's only medium risk sexual offenders that are under private care.
They are privatising the NHS. Selling off even more social housing stock.
Maybe when they run out of things to sell off they'll give someone else a go at fucking it up a bit more. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I predict, my life will carry on exactly as it has before....
Never once noticed any of the other changes.
True
I doubt it will make any different what to me at all whoever gets in as you say it's never made the slightest difference in the past "
I've never noticed anything change....not in my own life anyhow...i'm sure there are people it will affect but I'm not one of them...
I'll be honest and say, I'm not overly bright when it comes to politics and I don't know what half the crap these political party's say actually means most of the time...provided they're not lying of course.
I feel like I should be one of these politically aware forward thinking people that like to discuss such deep and meaningful things, but I'm not and it's all just five different opposing lots of inane drivvel to me.....so i just don't care. |
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!"
Zero hours contracts
Uncapped immigration
Increasing food banks for people who work full time
Less affordable housing
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"I will start
The FT will crash in the immediate aftermath of the election as big business gives its verdict. Thereafter through the summer a period of calm as the UK carries on until the Autumn. I predict a flight of top end capital and talent as the big rollers vote with their feet and decide to run their UK businesses from elsewhere. First alarm bells ring in Autumn when CT tax receipts drop significantly followed by a significant drop in self assessment income in early 2016. The labour govt blames the selfish rich for avoiding tax and promises a crackdown but in the meantime tax rises come in the spring budget to fiull the gap as well as a decision to put off the budget balance until 2017 because of extenuating circumstances. The economy goes back into deficit within 12 months and get worse the following year as unemployment also increases. Labour announce a further tax rise to plug the gap in the Autum statement of 2016 but by early 2017 they are out on their arses after a vote of NO CONFIDENCE."
. I just hope that the conservatives are voted back in. There is no commitment from the other parties to raise inheritance tax limits .Why should those who work hard pay extra taxes to subsidise the freckless ?. How do the Labour party expect to be able to control utility charges for gas and electric prices when these are governed by world commodity prices ? In addition why should people be deprived of the right to work because of the Labour party policy on Zero hours contracts . |
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!"
Is there anything left to sell? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!"
Surely a pay freeze is preferable to unemployment though, which rose under the last Labour government.
While I do understand where Millipede is coming from on the whole zero hours thing, I do also understand that such contracts allow flexibility for a large number of both employers and employees and I do believe that if they are banned outright, a large number of people currently on zero hours will most likely lose their jobs. |
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!
Is there anything left to sell? "
Yep. The remaining 30% of probation. Watch this space in 4 years time for G4S supervising high risk sexual and violent offenders. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"And what will happen if the tories get in?
They will finish the job of clearing up the mess and put the countries finances back in the black - as they did the last time they followed a Labour government
That will be the mess that lamont created when he got the pound dicked over then?
Think you'll find that was James Callaghan in 1967 who was the Chancellor of Harold Wilson's Labour government. Look up devaluation of Pound Sterling. The facts speak for themselves."
Lamont was
1992. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!
Is there anything left to sell? "
Well Gordon Brown sold of our Gold Reserves - at the time Gold was at it's lowest value. |
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!
Surely a pay freeze is preferable to unemployment though, which rose under the last Labour government.
While I do understand where Millipede is coming from on the whole zero hours thing, I do also understand that such contracts allow flexibility for a large number of both employers and employees and I do believe that if they are banned outright, a large number of people currently on zero hours will most likely lose their jobs."
Who has said they will be banned outright?
I thought the plan was to not allow them to be indefinite.
So if you're employing someone for more than 3 months then you have to offer them some sort of formal contract. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!
Surely a pay freeze is preferable to unemployment though, which rose under the last Labour government.
While I do understand where Millipede is coming from on the whole zero hours thing, I do also understand that such contracts allow flexibility for a large number of both employers and employees and I do believe that if they are banned outright, a large number of people currently on zero hours will most likely lose their jobs."
At least we'll a truer view of the unemployment figures. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I predict, my life will carry on exactly as it has before....
Never once noticed any of the other changes.
Exactly. Worry for me this time is the tory hidden agenda of replacing the NHS with an American style system. Not that I have or ever will vote for the blue twats lol
Do you know how many countries in the world there are apart from the UK and USA? many of them have excellent health services. "
No idea. But glad they have an excellent health service. |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
"If anyone thinks that New Labour is remotely different to the Tories when it comes to business in the UK they're living in Cloud Cuckooland. "
Except that ED n ED are NOT New Labour. They are very much OLD Labour. Can you not see that the way they are attacking business and wealth?
They are very much old school labour. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A bit more socialism may have been a good thing. If all those oil profits, along with profits from energy companies, water etc. were being used to benefit education and health for example. The only party advocating this however is the SNP so not really on offer for most of us.
The economy of property and big business is now considerably stretched - I don't see how the favours for the rich argument can continue for too much longer. |
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!
Surely a pay freeze is preferable to unemployment though, which rose under the last Labour government.
While I do understand where Millipede is coming from on the whole zero hours thing, I do also understand that such contracts allow flexibility for a large number of both employers and employees and I do believe that if they are banned outright, a large number of people currently on zero hours will most likely lose their jobs."
No evidence to prove this
Employers will offer staff the least they can if it saves them money
The rich business owning people who want all for themselves
At the expense of the masses
If the masses rebel
They'd have zero businesses |
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!
Is there anything left to sell?
Well Gordon Brown sold of our Gold Reserves - at the time Gold was at it's lowest value."
He sold half of it. See something for the Tories to sell after all. |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
"And what will happen if the tories get in?
They will finish the job of clearing up the mess and put the countries finances back in the black - as they did the last time they followed a Labour government
That will be the mess that lamont created when he got the pound dicked over then?
Think you'll find that was James Callaghan in 1967 who was the Chancellor of Harold Wilson's Labour government. Look up devaluation of Pound Sterling. The facts speak for themselves.
Lamont was
1992."
And that was our exit from the ERM which although painful for me personally at the time, turned out to be a good thing in the long run for the country. |
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The FT will crash in the immediate aftermath of the election as big business gives its verdict. Thereafter through the summer a period of calm as the UK carries on until the Autumn. I predict a flight of top end capital and talent as the big rollers vote with their feet and decide to run their UK businesses from elsewhere. First alarm bells ring in Autumn when CT tax receipts drop significantly followed by a significant drop in self assessment income in early 2016. The labour govt blames the selfish rich for avoiding tax and promises a crackdown but in the meantime tax rises come in the spring budget to fiull the gap as well as a decision to put off the budget balance until 2017 because of extenuating circumstances. The economy goes back into deficit within 12 months and get worse the following year as unemployment also increases. Labour announce a further tax rise to plug the gap in the Autum statement of 2016 but by early 2017 they are out on their arses after a vote of NO CONFIDENCE."
pssstttt ...no fence sitting !! |
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When rich people threaten to leave somewhere because they may have to pay a little more tax (and in the case of non doms a normal amount of tax) I always smile when they are seen knocking about in the same well heeled haunts after the event.... please if you are leaving can we have your flight reservation numbers, we don't want you to miss that flight to ........ hell? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I will start
The FT will crash in the immediate aftermath of the election as big business gives its verdict. Thereafter through the summer a period of calm as the UK carries on until the Autumn. I predict a flight of top end capital and talent as the big rollers vote with their feet and decide to run their UK businesses from elsewhere. First alarm bells ring in Autumn when CT tax receipts drop significantly followed by a significant drop in self assessment income in early 2016. The labour govt blames the selfish rich for avoiding tax and promises a crackdown but in the meantime tax rises come in the spring budget to fiull the gap as well as a decision to put off the budget balance until 2017 because of extenuating circumstances. The economy goes back into deficit within 12 months and get worse the following year as unemployment also increases. Labour announce a further tax rise to plug the gap in the Autum statement of 2016 but by early 2017 they are out on their arses after a vote of NO CONFIDENCE."
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By (user no longer on site)
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!
Surely a pay freeze is preferable to unemployment though, which rose under the last Labour government.
While I do understand where Millipede is coming from on the whole zero hours thing, I do also understand that such contracts allow flexibility for a large number of both employers and employees and I do believe that if they are banned outright, a large number of people currently on zero hours will most likely lose their jobs.
No evidence to prove this
Employers will offer staff the least they can if it saves them money
The rich business owning people who want all for themselves
At the expense of the masses
If the masses rebel
They'd have zero businesses "
Very true, I have no evidence to support this, it was simply my view of what steps some small businesses may need to take to stay afloat.
But on your point of the masses rebelling, when has this ever happened in this country? Really?
Remember the Petrol protests of late 2000 / early 2001?
I still remember on the 'Boycott the pump' day, some people being interviewed while filling their cars and saying 'Oh, I fully support it, but it won't do make any difference will it?'
Well, no sunshine, cos you're not boycotting the pump! |
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"When rich people threaten to leave somewhere because they may have to pay a little more tax (and in the case of non doms a normal amount of tax) I always smile when they are seen knocking about in the same well heeled haunts after the event.... please if you are leaving can we have your flight reservation numbers, we don't want you to miss that flight to ........ hell?"
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And what will happen if the tories get in?
See the other thread. Essentially we know what will happen because we have just had five years of it.
Five years of pay freezes job cuts and privitisation !!!
Surely a pay freeze is preferable to unemployment though, which rose under the last Labour government.
While I do understand where Millipede is coming from on the whole zero hours thing, I do also understand that such contracts allow flexibility for a large number of both employers and employees and I do believe that if they are banned outright, a large number of people currently on zero hours will most likely lose their jobs.
No evidence to prove this
Employers will offer staff the least they can if it saves them money
The rich business owning people who want all for themselves
At the expense of the masses
If the masses rebel
They'd have zero businesses
Very true, I have no evidence to support this, it was simply my view of what steps some small businesses may need to take to stay afloat.
But on your point of the masses rebelling, when has this ever happened in this country? Really?
Remember the Petrol protests of late 2000 / early 2001?
I still remember on the 'Boycott the pump' day, some people being interviewed while filling their cars and saying 'Oh, I fully support it, but it won't do make any difference will it?'
Well, no sunshine, cos you're not boycotting the pump!"
The day will come
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"If anyone thinks that New Labour is remotely different to the Tories when it comes to business in the UK they're living in Cloud Cuckooland.
Except that ED n ED are NOT New Labour. They are very much OLD Labour. Can you not see that the way they are attacking business and wealth?
They are very much old school labour."
If they were they would geta lot more votes than they're going to get, because there are socialists who would love us to actually have a country run fairly, instead of the gaps between rich and poor, and employer and employee widening day by day. But they're not old Labour. They can't risk alienating big business and the rich. So they'll be no different.
As stated on your other post, same shit, different day. |
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"This is a swinging site but it doesn't mean swings in votes..... So can we stick to s e x please?"
. The time which you can spend swinging is limited , the election result will have long term consequences and most members comments are interesting even if you do not agree with them. Variety is the spice of life .  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I predict that every remotely political thread will descend into _oo hot vs sexy-bum as everyone else loses the will to debate any more. Funnily enough, this is also what I predict under a conservative victory  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I predict fuck all difference except wallpaper in 10&11 downing Street and more red ties instead of blue.
I was hoping for a manning of the barricades with a round of beheadings before the super rich could grab there d&g handbags/manbags!.
I may well be singing. One day more to revolution,
We will nip it in the bud
We'll be ready for these schoolboys,
They will wet themselves with blood! |
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"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names."
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible |
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I'll say this once and once only lol who am I trying to kid I'll most likely continue saying it until people get it.
Politics is just smoke and mirrors to give you the illusion you have a stake and a say in whats going on, while in reality you don't. It does amuse me seeing people talking politics like they know whats going on but at the same time it saddens me to see how many are suckered in to believing the fairy tale. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"I'll say this once and once only lol who am I trying to kid I'll most likely continue saying it until people get it.
Politics is just smoke and mirrors to give you the illusion you have a stake and a say in whats going on, while in reality you don't. It does amuse me seeing people talking politics like they know whats going on but at the same time it saddens me to see how many are suckered in to believing the fairy tale."
Spot on. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. |
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By *ocknrollerMan
over a year ago
Glasgow/Stirlingshire |
"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible "
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it |
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"I'll say this once and once only lol who am I trying to kid I'll most likely continue saying it until people get it.
Politics is just smoke and mirrors to give you the illusion you have a stake and a say in whats going on, while in reality you don't. It does amuse me seeing people talking politics like they know whats going on but at the same time it saddens me to see how many are suckered in to believing the fairy tale."
Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it"
Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"I'll say this once and once only lol who am I trying to kid I'll most likely continue saying it until people get it.
Politics is just smoke and mirrors to give you the illusion you have a stake and a say in whats going on, while in reality you don't. It does amuse me seeing people talking politics like they know whats going on but at the same time it saddens me to see how many are suckered in to believing the fairy tale."
I agree. Apart from the local government stuff mentioned above, its all just a load of crap. Not one political party stands by their manifesto, and some (I'm looking at you Cleggy) actually pass through policies they specifically said they wouldn't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"same as now except with a muppet in charge instead of a spineless rat.
The closest yet to the actuality, with one serious omission: whoever takes power, your standard of living will fall."
Mine won't. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"same as now except with a muppet in charge instead of a spineless rat.
The closest yet to the actuality, with one serious omission: whoever takes power, your standard of living will fall.
Mine won't. "
Money won't protect you from a deteriorating society. But if you think you live in a bubble, good luck to you. |
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"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it"
I don't agree
And plenty of my friends don't
So offer yourself
As they say
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Or shut up |
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"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it
Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one. "
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"When rich people threaten to leave somewhere because they may have to pay a little more tax (and in the case of non doms a normal amount of tax) I always smile when they are seen knocking about in the same well heeled haunts after the event.... please if you are leaving can we have your flight reservation numbers, we don't want you to miss that flight to ........ hell?"
The comical thing is that on a sky news special, most of the people interviewed thought that non Dom meant they paid no tax in the UK and only one person was aware what the change would actually mean. |
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"same as now except with a muppet in charge instead of a spineless rat.
The closest yet to the actuality, with one serious omission: whoever takes power, your standard of living will fall.
Mine won't. "
If you become disabled?
Property values crash?
You are terminally ill and must sell your home to pay for health care?
I think people think it'll never happen to them
But it does
Honestly |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it
I don't agree
And plenty of my friends don't
So offer yourself
As they say
Put up
Or shut up "
You're doing neither, you're merely helping to maintain the status quo for the rich and privileged.
There's only one thing worse than a Tory canvasser telling you that they are working for a better future...it's a Labour canvasser telling you the same thing.
At least the Tory knows they are lying. |
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"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it
Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one.
Actually I take that back: I wouldn't. I wouldn't do the job of an MP for the salary, it's nowhere near enough. "
You'd be great
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"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it
I don't agree
And plenty of my friends don't
So offer yourself
As they say
Put up
Or shut up
You're doing neither, you're merely helping to maintain the status quo for the rich and privileged.
There's only one thing worse than a Tory canvasser telling you that they are working for a better future...it's a Labour canvasser telling you the same thing.
At least the Tory knows they are lying."
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"I'll say this once and once only lol who am I trying to kid I'll most likely continue saying it until people get it.
Politics is just smoke and mirrors to give you the illusion you have a stake and a say in whats going on, while in reality you don't. It does amuse me seeing people talking politics like they know whats going on but at the same time it saddens me to see how many are suckered in to believing the fairy tale.
Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
"
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"same as now except with a muppet in charge instead of a spineless rat.
The closest yet to the actuality, with one serious omission: whoever takes power, your standard of living will fall.
Mine won't.
Money won't protect you from a deteriorating society. But if you think you live in a bubble, good luck to you."
I don't live in a bubble , I just know where I'm going. |
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By *ocknrollerMan
over a year ago
Glasgow/Stirlingshire |
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Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one. "
Why dont I what, Volunteer my life to help clean up a ruined country I dont care about any more or do you mean do their very highly paid job and be as shit as them?
You would be no worse than the ones we have, being shit and being a politician go hand in hand these days so you'd blend right in. |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
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Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
"
Very well said. People fight and die for representation all over the world. For generations the UK has been quite rightly regarded across the globe as the bastion of a free and democratic country.
Those who would run this down are the very people whose complacency results in a society that knows all about its rights, but little of its responsibilities. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"same as now except with a muppet in charge instead of a spineless rat.
The closest yet to the actuality, with one serious omission: whoever takes power, your standard of living will fall.
Mine won't.
Money won't protect you from a deteriorating society. But if you think you live in a bubble, good luck to you.
I don't live in a bubble , I just know where I'm going. "
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Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
Very well said. People fight and die for representation all over the world. For generations the UK has been quite rightly regarded across the globe as the bastion of a free and democratic country.
Those who would run this down are the very people whose complacency results in a society that knows all about its rights, but little of its responsibilities."
Thank you
Differences aside politically
It's true |
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over a year ago
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Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one.
Why dont I what, Volunteer my life to help clean up a ruined country I dont care about any more or do you mean do their very highly paid job and be as shit as them?
You would be no worse than the ones we have, being shit and being a politician go hand in hand these days so you'd blend right in."
If you think they're doing the job even though they're shit at it and you think it's a highly paid job, why wouldn't you want to do it? |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"
Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
Very well said. People fight and die for representation all over the world. For generations the UK has been quite rightly regarded across the globe as the bastion of a free and democratic country.
Those who would run this down are the very people whose complacency results in a society that knows all about its rights, but little of its responsibilities."
Delusional, but it's probably comforting to type. Good for you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it
Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one.
Actually I take that back: I wouldn't. I wouldn't do the job of an MP for the salary, it's nowhere near enough. "
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You must be really well paid then!
75k a year, 75k living costs 35k to employ a relative as researcher/secretary,12 weeks holiday, good plated index linked pension?.
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
"
Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
Very well said. People fight and die for representation all over the world. For generations the UK has been quite rightly regarded across the globe as the bastion of a free and democratic country.
Those who would run this down are the very people whose complacency results in a society that knows all about its rights, but little of its responsibilities.
Delusional, but it's probably comforting to type. Good for you."
Rather than stalking my every post, why don't you take a look outside the box and see what goes on elsewhere in the world? You might just take on a more open minded outlook with the knowledge of how other people are forced to live their lives. |
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Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
Very well said. People fight and die for representation all over the world. For generations the UK has been quite rightly regarded across the globe as the bastion of a free and democratic country.
Those who would run this down are the very people whose complacency results in a society that knows all about its rights, but little of its responsibilities."
like I say "it is a bit much for some people to take in" |
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Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
Very well said. People fight and die for representation all over the world. For generations the UK has been quite rightly regarded across the globe as the bastion of a free and democratic country.
Those who would run this down are the very people whose complacency results in a society that knows all about its rights, but little of its responsibilities.
Delusional, but it's probably comforting to type. Good for you."
Apathy
Simply apathy
That's what concerns me
People who involve themselves are lambasted
People who don't give a shit are celebrated
And we wonder why there's no community spirit
This is why
So sad
Not deluded
Sad uncaring apathy
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over a year ago
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"same as now except with a muppet in charge instead of a spineless rat.
The closest yet to the actuality, with one serious omission: whoever takes power, your standard of living will fall.
Mine won't.
If you become disabled?
Property values crash?
You are terminally ill and must sell your home to pay for health care?
I think people think it'll never happen to them
But it does
Honestly "
Ok. Baring terminal illness and disability my standard of living won't fall. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"
Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
Very well said. People fight and die for representation all over the world. For generations the UK has been quite rightly regarded across the globe as the bastion of a free and democratic country.
Those who would run this down are the very people whose complacency results in a society that knows all about its rights, but little of its responsibilities.
Delusional, but it's probably comforting to type. Good for you.
Rather than stalking my every post, why don't you take a look outside the box and see what goes on elsewhere in the world? You might just take on a more open minded outlook with the knowledge of how other people are forced to live their lives."
You just threw a stone clean through the wall of the glasshouse you are living in. Don't forget to sweep up before you go to bed, now! |
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"same as now except with a muppet in charge instead of a spineless rat.
The closest yet to the actuality, with one serious omission: whoever takes power, your standard of living will fall.
Mine won't.
Money won't protect you from a deteriorating society. But if you think you live in a bubble, good luck to you.
I don't live in a bubble , I just know where I'm going. "
.Ra ra Rasputin
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it
Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one.
Actually I take that back: I wouldn't. I wouldn't do the job of an MP for the salary, it's nowhere near enough. .
You must be really well paid then!
75k a year, 75k living costs 35k to employ a relative as researcher/secretary,12 weeks holiday, good plated index linked pension?.
Are you secretly bill gates "
Of course I don't earn that now. But if wanted that salary, to work those hours, to be under that much pressure, to spend most of the time in London, I'd have gone and worked in the City, taken home a big fat bonus and not been subject to the level of public scrutiny MPs are put under. I think a lot of them are dicks. But it's not a highly paid job for what it is. |
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Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
Very well said. People fight and die for representation all over the world. For generations the UK has been quite rightly regarded across the globe as the bastion of a free and democratic country.
Those who would run this down are the very people whose complacency results in a society that knows all about its rights, but little of its responsibilities.
Delusional, but it's probably comforting to type. Good for you.
Rather than stalking my every post, why don't you take a look outside the box and see what goes on elsewhere in the world? You might just take on a more open minded outlook with the knowledge of how other people are forced to live their lives."
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"
Local councillors decide
Where schools are built
Where transport links go
Where businesses build
Who cleans your streets
Who attempts to prevent crime
Who builds homes
Of course
It's all irrelevant and smoke and mirrors
NOT!
Politics is about everything and everyone
To think otherwise is foolish
Very well said. People fight and die for representation all over the world. For generations the UK has been quite rightly regarded across the globe as the bastion of a free and democratic country.
Those who would run this down are the very people whose complacency results in a society that knows all about its rights, but little of its responsibilities.
Delusional, but it's probably comforting to type. Good for you.
Apathy
Simply apathy
That's what concerns me
People who involve themselves are lambasted
People who don't give a shit are celebrated
And we wonder why there's no community spirit
This is why
So sad
Not deluded
Sad uncaring apathy
"
You are confusing 'people who don't give a shit' with 'people who aren't fooled by the baubles and geegaws of the party machine'.
Voting Labour or Conservative is as apathetic as you can get. |
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By *ocknrollerMan
over a year ago
Glasgow/Stirlingshire |
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Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one.
Why dont I what, Volunteer my life to help clean up a ruined country I dont care about any more or do you mean do their very highly paid job and be as shit as them?
You would be no worse than the ones we have, being shit and being a politician go hand in hand these days so you'd blend right in.
If you think they're doing the job even though they're shit at it and you think it's a highly paid job, why wouldn't you want to do it? "
I have many reasons for not wanting to do it which you wouldnt want to know. But for starters doing this 'job' isnt supposed to be about chasing a good salary its about doing whats right and keeping your word. There's a very good reason why mps have a reputation for doing the opposite. Plus I dont have enough hope left for this country, it really is in a mess and its getting worse all the time. You'd need to care about this place to want to run it and I think its a sinking ship, a lost cause.
Anyway dont forget I only posted my prediction as asked by OP, if you want to disagree with my opinion or prove me wrong in my prediction, then let me know if you notice a difference before and after may 7th when it comes. The proof is in the pudding so to speak. |
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over a year ago
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"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it
Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one.
Actually I take that back: I wouldn't. I wouldn't do the job of an MP for the salary, it's nowhere near enough. .
You must be really well paid then!
75k a year, 75k living costs 35k to employ a relative as researcher/secretary,12 weeks holiday, good plated index linked pension?.
Are you secretly bill gates
Of course I don't earn that now. But if wanted that salary, to work those hours, to be under that much pressure, to spend most of the time in London, I'd have gone and worked in the City, taken home a big fat bonus and not been subject to the level of public scrutiny MPs are put under. I think a lot of them are dicks. But it's not a highly paid job for what it is. "
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Err yeah right!
Most will be lucky to do six weeks in London and exactly what pressure are they under again!..
Good luck getting that big fat bonus in the city though, last time I lived in London they'd just made half of the city workers redundant! |
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"simple answer, britain after may 7th would be just as shit as britain before may 7th if not worse. There's no change taking place here, just swapping names.
Someone has to steer the ship
And if you're not volunteering nor anyone else, we can hardly complain about those who try their very best to please everyone
Because it's clearly impossible
Haha! VOLUNTEERING!? volunteering their very best efforts, is that what they do!? I think you'll find volunteering and being paid a sickening amount of money to fail to keep every promise you ever made are to very different things. Its FFAAAARR from "volunteering" or their very best, those bastards can do a lot better than this and we all know it
Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one.
Actually I take that back: I wouldn't. I wouldn't do the job of an MP for the salary, it's nowhere near enough. .
You must be really well paid then!
75k a year, 75k living costs 35k to employ a relative as researcher/secretary,12 weeks holiday, good plated index linked pension?.
Are you secretly bill gates
Of course I don't earn that now. But if wanted that salary, to work those hours, to be under that much pressure, to spend most of the time in London, I'd have gone and worked in the City, taken home a big fat bonus and not been subject to the level of public scrutiny MPs are put under. I think a lot of them are dicks. But it's not a highly paid job for what it is. .
Err yeah right!
Most will be lucky to do six weeks in London and exactly what pressure are they under again!..
Good luck getting that big fat bonus in the city though, last time I lived in London they'd just made half of the city workers redundant!"
And when they are employing again
It'll be
Zero hours contract
No holiday pay
No sick pay
No maternity leave or pay
Because it only happens to other people
Yea yea
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Why don't you do it then? I know I'd be an utterly shit politician, so I have never tried to be one. If I thought I'd be a good one, I'd be one.
Why dont I what, Volunteer my life to help clean up a ruined country I dont care about any more or do you mean do their very highly paid job and be as shit as them?
You would be no worse than the ones we have, being shit and being a politician go hand in hand these days so you'd blend right in.
If you think they're doing the job even though they're shit at it and you think it's a highly paid job, why wouldn't you want to do it?
I have many reasons for not wanting to do it which you wouldnt want to know. But for starters doing this 'job' isnt supposed to be about chasing a good salary its about doing whats right and keeping your word. There's a very good reason why mps have a reputation for doing the opposite. Plus I dont have enough hope left for this country, it really is in a mess and its getting worse all the time. You'd need to care about this place to want to run it and I think its a sinking ship, a lost cause.
Anyway dont forget I only posted my prediction as asked by OP, if you want to disagree with my opinion or prove me wrong in my prediction, then let me know if you notice a difference before and after may 7th when it comes. The proof is in the pudding so to speak."
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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It won't be a Labour led coalition.
Just one point on everyone saying the success of the last five years (if that's what you believe it has been) is down to the Conservative government need to remember it has been a coalition government.
I haven't bothered to read through the thread having just caught up with the Tory Manifesto thread and shouting at Gove on Newsnight.
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By *ocknrollerMan
over a year ago
Glasgow/Stirlingshire |
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If you don't care about the country, you are doing nothing to try to improve it for yourself or your fellow citizens and you think it's a lost cause, why don't you move somewhere else?"
But I DO plan to move somewhere else and have planned to for some time. Yes you're right though I'm doing nothing to improve this country, but that is true of almost everyone in the uk, yourself included. |
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If you don't care about the country, you are doing nothing to try to improve it for yourself or your fellow citizens and you think it's a lost cause, why don't you move somewhere else?
But I DO plan to move somewhere else and have planned to for some time. Yes you're right though I'm doing nothing to improve this country, but that is true of almost everyone in the uk, yourself included. "
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If you don't care about the country, you are doing nothing to try to improve it for yourself or your fellow citizens and you think it's a lost cause, why don't you move somewhere else?
But I DO plan to move somewhere else and have planned to for some time. Yes you're right though I'm doing nothing to improve this country, but that is true of almost everyone in the uk, yourself included. "
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By *ocknrollerMan
over a year ago
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If you don't care about the country, you are doing nothing to try to improve it for yourself or your fellow citizens and you think it's a lost cause, why don't you move somewhere else?
But I DO plan to move somewhere else and have planned to for some time. Yes you're right though I'm doing nothing to improve this country, but that is true of almost everyone in the uk, yourself included.
Untrue "
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If you don't care about the country, you are doing nothing to try to improve it for yourself or your fellow citizens and you think it's a lost cause, why don't you move somewhere else?
But I DO plan to move somewhere else and have planned to for some time. Yes you're right though I'm doing nothing to improve this country, but that is true of almost everyone in the uk, yourself included.
Untrue
Opinion"
Still untrue |
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" As above"
Very astute.
Unfortunately, we have political parties that are not prepared to identify where their proposed capital is coming from; a bit like ordering from a restaurant menu and finding your anticipated bill has increased by 25% when presented (not including the 'service charge' and tip). |
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By *ocknrollerMan
over a year ago
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If you don't care about the country, you are doing nothing to try to improve it for yourself or your fellow citizens and you think it's a lost cause, why don't you move somewhere else?
But I DO plan to move somewhere else and have planned to for some time. Yes you're right though I'm doing nothing to improve this country, but that is true of almost everyone in the uk, yourself included.
Untrue
Opinion
Still untrue "
Ok, its your opinion, but I can assure you my intention to live somewhere else is very much true. And as for almost everybody in the uk doing nothing to improve this country, there is nothing to suggest otherwise. The mps are not improving things because this place has been getting worse not better. And the general public are relatively powerless to improve this country and not necessarilly for lack of trying. Its not untrue, its an opinion based on fact. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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The FT will crash in the immediate aftermath of the election as big business gives its verdict. Thereafter through the summer a period of calm as the UK carries on until the Autumn. I predict a flight of top end capital and talent as the big rollers vote with their feet and decide to run their UK businesses from elsewhere. First alarm bells ring in Autumn when CT tax receipts drop significantly followed by a significant drop in self assessment income in early 2016. The labour govt blames the selfish rich for avoiding tax and promises a crackdown but in the meantime tax rises come in the spring budget to fiull the gap as well as a decision to put off the budget balance until 2017 because of extenuating circumstances. The economy goes back into deficit within 12 months and get worse the following year as unemployment also increases. Labour announce a further tax rise to plug the gap in the Autum statement of 2016 but by early 2017 they are out on their arses after a vote of NO CONFIDENCE."
it just like you have a hotline to conservative party election HQ with their "what bullet points should we try and headline today....
makes me almost wish wishy was back... at least he was a tory supporter you could have a robust conversation with.....
i thinks its bizarro when the labour manifesto had more costed pledges about how they would raise the money then the conservatives....
its almost like they are on the ropes and having to blert out stuff because they are desperate *cough* NHS 8bn *cough*......
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If you don't care about the country, you are doing nothing to try to improve it for yourself or your fellow citizens and you think it's a lost cause, why don't you move somewhere else?
But I DO plan to move somewhere else and have planned to for some time. Yes you're right though I'm doing nothing to improve this country, but that is true of almost everyone in the uk, yourself included. "
You know this how, exactly? Do you know what I do for a living, what I have done in the past, what voluntary work I do or do not do, what I plan to do in the future?
It's good that you're making plans because you sound like you'll be a lot happier then. |
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If you don't care about the country, you are doing nothing to try to improve it for yourself or your fellow citizens and you think it's a lost cause, why don't you move somewhere else?
But I DO plan to move somewhere else and have planned to for some time. Yes you're right though I'm doing nothing to improve this country, but that is true of almost everyone in the uk, yourself included.
Untrue
Opinion
Still untrue
Ok, its your opinion, but I can assure you my intention to live somewhere else is very much true. And as for almost everybody in the uk doing nothing to improve this country, there is nothing to suggest otherwise. The mps are not improving things because this place has been getting worse not better. And the general public are relatively powerless to improve this country and not necessarilly for lack of trying. Its not untrue, its an opinion based on fact. "
No its based on untrue media
People
British people do loads
Just because you do nothing and choose to jump ship it's not the fault of people who clearly do far more than you!
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By *ocknrollerMan
over a year ago
Glasgow/Stirlingshire |
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If you don't care about the country, you are doing nothing to try to improve it for yourself or your fellow citizens and you think it's a lost cause, why don't you move somewhere else?
But I DO plan to move somewhere else and have planned to for some time. Yes you're right though I'm doing nothing to improve this country, but that is true of almost everyone in the uk, yourself included.
Untrue
Opinion
Still untrue
Ok, its your opinion, but I can assure you my intention to live somewhere else is very much true. And as for almost everybody in the uk doing nothing to improve this country, there is nothing to suggest otherwise. The mps are not improving things because this place has been getting worse not better. And the general public are relatively powerless to improve this country and not necessarilly for lack of trying. Its not untrue, its an opinion based on fact.
No its based on untrue media
People
British people do loads
Just because you do nothing and choose to jump ship it's not the fault of people who clearly do far more than you!
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see people always say that the 'people' do loads etc as a way of making it seem like we're all fine and harp on about the british spirit of the people blah blah. the 'people' are simply putting up with a crap situation. The general public, I think, arent trying to improve the uk. They are trying to take care of themselves and their familes in a country that is falling apart. Plus I am definately NOT saying its the 'peoples' fault like you seem to think. And trust me I do not get my opinions from the so called media, I pay no attention to the media at all. You only think I do which is by the way, Untrue. |
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If you don't care about the country, you are doing nothing to try to improve it for yourself or your fellow citizens and you think it's a lost cause, why don't you move somewhere else?
But I DO plan to move somewhere else and have planned to for some time. Yes you're right though I'm doing nothing to improve this country, but that is true of almost everyone in the uk, yourself included.
Untrue
Opinion
Still untrue
Ok, its your opinion, but I can assure you my intention to live somewhere else is very much true. And as for almost everybody in the uk doing nothing to improve this country, there is nothing to suggest otherwise. The mps are not improving things because this place has been getting worse not better. And the general public are relatively powerless to improve this country and not necessarilly for lack of trying. Its not untrue, its an opinion based on fact.
No its based on untrue media
People
British people do loads
Just because you do nothing and choose to jump ship it's not the fault of people who clearly do far more than you!
see people always say that the 'people' do loads etc as a way of making it seem like we're all fine and harp on about the british spirit of the people blah blah. the 'people' are simply putting up with a crap situation. The general public, I think, arent trying to improve the uk. They are trying to take care of themselves and their familes in a country that is falling apart. Plus I am definately NOT saying its the 'peoples' fault like you seem to think. And trust me I do not get my opinions from the so called media, I pay no attention to the media at all. You only think I do which is by the way, Untrue."
Untrue lol |
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Actually the reason for political apathy is that for the most part we're living pretty comfortable lives. If the country ever does start to 'fall apart' you can be sure of a lot less apathy. |
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By *ocknrollerMan
over a year ago
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untrue lol
you sound like an mp
besides, time will tell.
I know several MPs personally actually because I'm actively involved in my community
So I know it's untrue "
you may want to think about that, just because you do try and know people who do, does not make my opinion untrue. It obvioulsy does not prove that what I said was wrong because you are not 'almost everybody' and no offence but being involved in your local community doesnt mean you are improving the uk. Good for you for trying though and I do wish you luck, which you probably dont believe but its true, I do. |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Actually the reason for political apathy is that for the most part we're living pretty comfortable lives. If the country ever does start to 'fall apart' you can be sure of a lot less apathy."
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Anyone with any political sense, including the markets, knows there is going to be a coalition. Labour have lead many surveys the last couple of years, including last week in a few of them. So all risks are factored in already, in the city and markets will be stable.
Labour had our economy in growth when the cons formed a coalition and trashed it. The cons have failed to meet their own targets and are thus not trusted.
My prediction once a labour coalition is formed is that markets would rise steadily, based on more certainty - that we wont be leaving the EU, that growth will resume, spending and borrowing is contained and costed and the refusal by cons to provide details of multi billion cuts are no longer keeping markets in fear of uncertain damages.
It will be a fairly smooth transition and more people will relax, without fear of being the next conservative underdogs to be vilified and financially obliterated.
Still an undecided voter but there's potentially more good from a labour led coalition. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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Labour had our economy in growth when the cons formed a coalition and trashed it. The cons have failed to meet their own targets and are thus not trusted.
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You are joking aren't you? You don't remember Northern Rock and the banking crisis, the start of the recession?
Northern Rock collapsed in September 2007.... 3 YEARS before the tories came to lower.
We were officially in recession in 2008..... hardly economic growth.
It was labour that sold all our gold reserves, labour that raped pensions, labour that poured hundreds of billions into a banking system it had failed to control.
Don't get me wrong, I gave never voted tory in my life. But to say it was them who trashed the economy is stretching reality a bit far.
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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"Actually the country is running fine with no government for about 30 days ..... enough said "
What makes you think there is no government?
It is only parliament that has been dissolved, the government is still in place running the country. |
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over a year ago
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"I predict, my life will carry on exactly as it has before....
Never once noticed any of the other changes.
True
I doubt it will make any different what to me at all whoever gets in as you say it's never made the slightest difference in the past "
but is does affect you maybe it's just you guys who don't realize bit every time tax goes up you pay more your salary is worth less if it didn't fuel would still be around 90p and house prices would be cheaper just cuz you choose not to care does mean it's not happening |
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My prediction it doesn't really matter who wins when a country has no or very few resources then the government has to make money from the people ie taxes ..all you have to do is look at your car and inside your house count how many stuff that says made in the UK compare that to how much is made elsewhere then you can have an idea of the cash flow in and out of the country ...a lot of people on this thread say they are helping the UK but how many of you actually not go to asda and by local instead how many of you would not buy a German car and instead pay for the UK equivalent of there was one how many would pay extra just to buy local I'm guessing very few as everyone is on a budget |
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I have no loyalties to anybody. Whilst one party will have positive points, it will have negative points also. They put a spin on positive things but usually stay quiet on where these cutbacks are being made.
It would be nice if we had a PM with some balls to make big changes. Get tax lawyers in to cut off all loop holes so everybody pays there way. Pull our military out of overseas countries. It will save money and ease tensions. Stop with all our donations to various parts of the world. Why are we paying for India's space program?
Immigration is the buzz word this election. I support it if managed correctly. By all means come to our country if you have a permanent job lined up. Just do not expect free health care until you have paid into NI for a qualifying period. No benefits to be claimed for overseas family members either. All small things but can save the UK a few quid to waste on something else.
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Living under any coalition government is like suffering the compromise of design by committee....
No-one gets what they really want and everyone gets something they don't want...
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"Living under any coalition government is like suffering the compromise of design by committee....
No-one gets what they really want and everyone gets something they don't want...
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I find that preferable to only a small group that can influence two parties getting what they want though.
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"Living under any coalition government is like suffering the compromise of design by committee....
No-one gets what they really want and everyone gets something they don't want...
I find that preferable to only a small group that can influence two parties getting what they want though.
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Having one or more of the smaller parties holding a balance of power only creates agenda driven negotiation which lead to weak and ineffectual policy making... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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i quite like the coalition because it has stopped parties vearing too far left or right....
but that is really dependant on which smaller parties have power how much a system will learch
i still think the most likely outcome is a labour/lib dem/plaid/SDLP minority coalition where they then dare the SNP to vote with the tories.... |
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I think that's the case now because the big parties are in denial of their decline, the devolution situation is a mess and parties are not yet working towards proposals for genuine coalition options.
I think that will change after this election though (ie the next election probably in a couple of years time). The current coalition is a failure as most regard it as a Tory govt.
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"i quite like the coalition because it has stopped parties vearing too far left or right....
but that is really dependant on which smaller parties have power how much a system will learch
i still think the most likely outcome is a labour/lib dem/plaid/SDLP minority coalition where they then dare the SNP to vote with the tories...."
I don't think the LibDems have really stopped much from the Conservatives. They even helped vote in the Health and Social Care Act 2012, which supports greater profiting from private services in the NHS. They've helped support cuts and denigration of disabled etc, where many people have taken their lives - in my opinion they have blood on their hands.
It's been a Conservative government, a step to the right of Margaret Thatcher, albeit they'd like to become ever more right wing in future. |
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"No-one votes for coalition ....it's not an option on the ballot paper.....
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No but if parties are honest about who they could work together with voters could make informed decisions.
Nobody could have predicted the current coalition except Clegg.
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"No-one votes for coalition ....it's not an option on the ballot paper.....
No but if parties are honest about who they could work together with voters could make informed decisions.
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I agree...... |
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"This is a swinging site but it doesn't mean swings in votes..... So can we stick to s e x please?"
so what politician gets you moist kezzia dug dale works for me
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By *abioMan
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I don't think the LibDems have really stopped much from the Conservatives. They even helped vote in the Health and Social Care Act 2012, which supports greater profiting from private services in the NHS. They've helped support cuts and denigration of disabled etc, where many people have taken their lives - in my opinion they have blood on their hands.
It's been a Conservative government, a step to the right of Margaret Thatcher, albeit they'd like to become ever more right wing in future."
you look at it that way... i'll let at it another.... some of this things they did get in the coalition...
see that 10,600 single persons tax allowance you have in your wages...... that was a lib dem pledge
the schools funding and the "pupil premium" in education.... lib dems
the further regualtion on banking... lib dems....
if you ever take a gander at the 2010 coalition agreement... you'll see the lib dems actually got quite a lot
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It doesn't matter who gets in, although personally I would prefer another coalition led by the tories again. I don't trust labour to not make the same mistakes again. A big one for me was selling off the gold reserves for...?
The problem with politics today is that it is made up of career politicians on all sides. Very few have had to work in the real world.
I don't like the idea of a national party helping run the UK, too much self interest. Which I realise is why they were formed.
I also think a lot of decisions are made in Europe these days, making a lot of what is being discussed irrelevant anyway.
Nobody has yet mentioned the unions if a labour led government is installed.
Whichever way it goes, I hope it will be the right decision for the country as a whole. I suspect it will be a labour led coalition. But I could be wrong! |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"i quite like the coalition because it has stopped parties vearing too far left or right....
but that is really dependant on which smaller parties have power how much a system will learch
i still think the most likely outcome is a labour/lib dem/plaid/SDLP minority coalition where they then dare the SNP to vote with the tories....
I don't think the LibDems have really stopped much from the Conservatives. They even helped vote in the Health and Social Care Act 2012, which supports greater profiting from private services in the NHS. They've helped support cuts and denigration of disabled etc, where many people have taken their lives - in my opinion they have blood on their hands.
It's been a Conservative government, a step to the right of Margaret Thatcher, albeit they'd like to become ever more right wing in future."
And maybe, just maybe, if labour hadn't screwed the economy last time they were in, there would not have been a coalition formed in 2010... |
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The FT will crash in the immediate aftermath of the election as big business gives its verdict. Thereafter through the summer a period of calm as the UK carries on until the Autumn. I predict a flight of top end capital and talent as the big rollers vote with their feet and decide to run their UK businesses from elsewhere. First alarm bells ring in Autumn when CT tax receipts drop significantly followed by a significant drop in self assessment income in early 2016. The labour govt blames the selfish rich for avoiding tax and promises a crackdown but in the meantime tax rises come in the spring budget to fiull the gap as well as a decision to put off the budget balance until 2017 because of extenuating circumstances. The economy goes back into deficit within 12 months and get worse the following year as unemployment also increases. Labour announce a further tax rise to plug the gap in the Autum statement of 2016 but by early 2017 they are out on their arses after a vote of NO CONFIDENCE."
Seek urgent medical attention.
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"I will start
The FT will crash in the immediate aftermath of the election as big business gives its verdict. Thereafter through the summer a period of calm as the UK carries on until the Autumn. I predict a flight of top end capital and talent as the big rollers vote with their feet and decide to run their UK businesses from elsewhere. First alarm bells ring in Autumn when CT tax receipts drop significantly followed by a significant drop in self assessment income in early 2016. The labour govt blames the selfish rich for avoiding tax and promises a crackdown but in the meantime tax rises come in the spring budget to fiull the gap as well as a decision to put off the budget balance until 2017 because of extenuating circumstances. The economy goes back into deficit within 12 months and get worse the following year as unemployment also increases. Labour announce a further tax rise to plug the gap in the Autum statement of 2016 but by early 2017 they are out on their arses after a vote of NO CONFIDENCE.
Seek urgent medical attention.
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