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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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At work we had this guy always sat had coffee with the boss, sat next to him during meetings and was never more 2 steps behind him.
We (other line managers) would laugh at him and say he was a lap dog, a brown nose and a traitor. Now it seems to have paid off for him as he has now been put forward for promotion.
The boss now seems to be asking me for coffees,and is now confiding in me, and on self reflection I am now looking like the new kiss-arse. Where would ur loyalties lie? With the fellow managers or hang around with the Gm who is already talking about progression for me?  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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My thing is now that the shoe is on the other foot i realise that there is very little ass kising going on, At least on my part. We just sit and chat about mundane stuff as well as company finances. But other colleagues are already _iewing it as brown nosing. |
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Its nice to be popular and one of the lads and there's no reason why you can't have that and the promotion but the bottom line is you don't go to work to make friends.
In my experience when you leave a job more often than not with all the will in the world you will lose touch with your 'friends'.
So if that promotion has a nice lil wage rise attached to it I suggest you bend your boss over and plant your tongue firmly in his ass! |
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By *ig badMan
over a year ago
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"At work we had this guy always sat had coffee with the boss, sat next to him during meetings and was never more 2 steps behind him.
We (other line managers) would laugh at him and say he was a lap dog, a brown nose and a traitor. Now it seems to have paid off for him as he has now been put forward for promotion.
The boss now seems to be asking me for coffees,and is now confiding in me, and on self reflection I am now looking like the new kiss-arse. Where would ur loyalties lie? With the fellow managers or hang around with the Gm who is already talking about progression for me? "
The question you have to ask your self is "where do i want to be in 5 years". however talking to the big cheese doesn't have to be arse licking. Thats a misnomer put about by jealous people not wanting you to leave them behind.
I would personally go along with the gaffer, not suck up but interact professionally. Sod your colleges to some extent although if you can perform a balancing act all the better. After all its your future your concerned about not anyone else's. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you want promotion, get kissing his arse! Bosses have to sacrifice being popular in the office, it's why they're the bosses and not people's friends  "
Mwahhhh mwahhhh mwahhhhh
get kissing   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The term arse licking is generally used by no hopers.
Insulting and demeaning what you can't have is a genuine need to avoid the pain of being a no hoper.
You have highly unprofessional and unfriendly 'colleagues'
There will always be blockers and absenters. Fuck them. If you want heavy workload, long days and early death , go for it 
I trust the salary is sufficiently high |
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"At work we had this guy always sat had coffee with the boss, sat next to him during meetings and was never more 2 steps behind him.
We (other line managers) would laugh at him and say he was a lap dog, a brown nose and a traitor. Now it seems to have paid off for him as he has now been put forward for promotion.
The boss now seems to be asking me for coffees,and is now confiding in me, and on self reflection I am now looking like the new kiss-arse. Where would ur loyalties lie? With the fellow managers or hang around with the Gm who is already talking about progression for me? "
I seriously don't understand why people who are *cough* managers have this sort of mentality.
Building strong relatioships is an important part of enabling a manager to achieve what they want/need to.
Building walls and devides between people because they do a different job is just stupid. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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pretty sure he does not put someone forward just cos they go along with him. Yep would say the others are jealous or just not capable of interacting with him on a level.
Are you learning something from the interactions? If you are then it's all good. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At work we had this guy always sat had coffee with the boss, sat next to him during meetings and was never more 2 steps behind him.
We (other line managers) would laugh at him and say he was a lap dog, a brown nose and a traitor. Now it seems to have paid off for him as he has now been put forward for promotion.
The boss now seems to be asking me for coffees,and is now confiding in me, and on self reflection I am now looking like the new kiss-arse. Where would ur loyalties lie? With the fellow managers or hang around with the Gm who is already talking about progression for me? "
In my experience, professionalism pays! Not always an instant fix but in medium to long term it is better to do a good job, maintain healthy (not creepy) relationships with your colleagues and superiors and keep confidential things just there... confidential. Gossiping with today's mate can turn sour - work friendships can be fragile. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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To be nice;
I am learning a lot from him especially communicating on a different level.
I would hope their are fairly senior managers here that can give me an opinion form the other side of the coin.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To be nice;
I am learning a lot from him especially communicating on a different level.
I would hope their are fairly senior managers here that can give me an opinion form the other side of the coin.
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You'd be better off reading a little on the subject |
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By *ig badMan
over a year ago
Up North :-) |
"To be nice;
I am learning a lot from him especially communicating on a different level.
I would hope their are fairly senior managers here that can give me an opinion form the other side of the coin.
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you will find senior managers vary in what appeals and doesn't. But in general its best to be natural and if possible further your career when you can. But always make sure the extra pressure dosn;'t spoil your enjoyment in a job.
Personally i like positive supportive managers who will help and put forward ideas but the arse lickers put me off. Its a fine line though and i always feel if your more natural it comes across better. There is no ideal though like there isn't a perfect way to raise a child.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I always enjoyed being one of the lads at work,preferred the Indians to the Chiefs.
Now that I haven't got a pot to piss in I wish I'd been a Toady and climbed the ladder.
As has been intimated earlier,you go to work to make your living not to make your friends.
How many of them swing anyway?
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By (user no longer on site)
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Thats like when i left work...
We had a new cook who couldnt cook. god awful food and the old folk didnt like it. they prefered their old faves like sausage and mash etc.
Well she soooooooo kissed ass they all thought she was wonderful.
Jesus...
Sod the oldies as long as she gives the staff a bit of fruit fookin cocktail in the mornings.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"depends whats more important to you, the words of your colleagues or your promotion?
you're not at work to make friends though"
Very true, you got to be clear about your priorities - work is and will remain work. If in time you make some friends ... that is great but often the friendship suffers when interests conflict. Hence the old line of keeping business and pleasure apart is probably also applicable here. I have always got on well with my colleagues, preferred some to others but treated everybody with respect - but I do not bring "work" and its context eg people home. |
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