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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I have been off the fags for a week now and I have replaced them with an e-cig.
In your opinion would that now qualify me to list myself as a non smoker? After all I'm not smoking cigarettes, only vapeing, I wold be intrested in your thoughts |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have been off the fags for a week now and I have replaced them with an e-cig.
In your opinion would that now qualify me to list myself as a non smoker? After all I'm not smoking cigarettes, only vapeing, I wold be intrested in your thoughts"
You're a non smoker. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I'm Concerned that if I change my status to non smoker and I'm still vapeing that I would be viewed as having lied, I wold like to know what anti smokers think about this, I am trying after all lol  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Do you that one thing that annoys me, I'm a non smoker, and I congratulate you on doing something a positive, I know you're still a nicotine addict but e cigs are far and away better than the traditional cancer stick. Pisses me off when do gooders say well there is no proof they're safe, they're not safe just a lot safer than fags.
You're a vaper now not a smoker and its a start. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd consider you a smoker.
It still contains nicotine doesn't it?
I was eating with family on Monday and two started "vaping", I asked them to go outside.   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've met smokers in the past and it's definitely changed my attitude to meeting them. I'd consider someone vaping as smoking just the same and would feel uncomfortable with them doing it in front of me.
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We have listed ourselves as smokers but having stopped smoking about a month ago and moved onto vaping we have noted it on our profile so that anyone connecting with us is aware and it gives them the option to stay away if they prefer. |
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I am an ex smoker so I do sympathise but I consider you a smoker.
If I tell you i've given up sugar and won't eat cake then you see me with biscuits I'm a sugar eater.
I know the vapour has minimal nicotine in it but it still has nicotine in it.
Put NON smoker on your profile.
Resist vaping during a meet.
Shouldn't be a problem. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Well a god old mixed bag, I'll leave it as smoker until I stop vaping but I'll ask individualy if the non smoking applies to vapeing and put it in my profile thanks all x |
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"I've met smokers in the past and it's definitely changed my attitude to meeting them. I'd consider someone vaping as smoking just the same and would feel uncomfortable with them doing it in front of me.
Good luck though OP "
Im with this.
I just find and (this is only my view) the whole smoking thing, whether its actually smoking or e-cig..... Unattractive. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ok what I've decided to do is change my profile to non smoker, and my reasons why are.
It will give me that extra incentive to stay smoke free
I will put in my profile that I vape, so people can make that choice
I belive you can filter out smokers, so if Im down as a non smoker, at least people will see my profile, if I keep it as smoker they won't get the chance to make their own mind up as to wether vapeing is smoking or not (it was looking about 50/50)
Do thanks for the advice all x |
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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm on patches and nicorette spray but still call myself a smoker. Until I can manage without anything. Then I will be a non smoker  "
I agree with this.
As far as my knowledge goes (limited I know) that you use these e cig vapour things when trying to change from cigarettes.
A none smoker doesn't need a vapour thing. A smoker trying to give up uses those things don't they??
I have never smoked in my life and still see people puffing on those things. To me they are smokers trying to give up.
Once you need nothing then you are a none smoker in my book. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm on patches and nicorette spray but still call myself a smoker. Until I can manage without anything. Then I will be a non smoker
I agree with this.
As far as my knowledge goes (limited I know) that you use these e cig vapour things when trying to change from cigarettes.
A none smoker doesn't need a vapour thing. A smoker trying to give up uses those things don't they??
I have never smoked in my life and still see people puffing on those things. To me they are smokers trying to give up.
Once you need nothing then you are a none smoker in my book."
Serious question, can you smell a difference between someone who smokes cigarettes and someone who uses an e-cig? I can't tell because I'm using the e-cig, but I can smell a smoker from about 10 feet |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You are officially classed as a non smoker when you have not had a cigarettes for 12mths,,,, my life insurance consultant ad go have told me that. And any insurance premiums you have that are listed as smoker go down dramatically after12 mths of non smoking. .....
And yes there is a test they do to prove it,,, keep up the good work though |
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By *heOwlMan
over a year ago
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"I have been off the fags for a week now and I have replaced them with an e-cig.
In your opinion would that now qualify me to list myself as a non smoker? After all I'm not smoking cigarettes, only vapeing, I wold be intrested in your thoughts"
As an ex smoker (quit about 15 years ago), I would say no, not until you have managed to give up the nicotine completely.
After all if you were to find yourself somewhere where you couldn't charge your vaping thingy, or vapour stuff ran out and non was available in that location, I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be long before you found yourself in a shop grabbing a pack of fags.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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A lot of people putting a time scale on how long I have to put in to be a "proper"
Non smoker, but may I say this, if I was an alcoholic, no matter how long I had been dry, I would still be an alcoholic, so those of you who have given up but still say I'm a smoker because it's only been a short time, you may still be a smoker too lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't understand why people are obsessing on the nicotine - nicotine isn't the problem with fags, it's odourless, colourless and is much, much lower on the scale of absorbable poisons than alcohol. It's the tar in fags that causes yellowing, and it's the vegetable matter burning that causes the smell and toxins. I think some people on here need to back to class and learn what "smoke" actually is!
Op, you are a non smoker. |
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By *heOwlMan
over a year ago
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"I don't understand why people are obsessing on the nicotine - nicotine isn't the problem with fags, it's odourless, colourless and is much, much lower on the scale of absorbable poisons than alcohol. It's the tar in fags that causes yellowing, and it's the vegetable matter burning that causes the smell and toxins. I think some people on here need to back to class and learn what "smoke" actually is!
Op, you are a non smoker."
That would be because it is the addictive bit, and the bit that will have you reaching for the fags as soon as the replacements fail or are not available.
That said fags are by far the worst way to get that nicotine, so I guess vaping is an improvement, but its still better to get away from it altogether.
(Of course that is conveniently ignoringt he minor detail taht teh vaping market is totally unregulated so no one has a clue what is in that vapour (bit like all the chemicals in fags).
However my biggest reservation is that there is the potential for people to keep increasing the amout they use their e-cigs, and therefore increasing their dependance on nicotine. I've seen a few people at work use e-cigs and then revert to standard cigs, but smoking far more than they were, becuse they unwittingly increased their nicotine intake. |
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"Originally I was asking in regards to meets and the site, not legal definitions or medical studies "
Id consider you to still be a smoker as your still vaping nicotine which is the addictive substance contained within cigarettes and tobacco.
Thats my opinion however most will class you as a non smoker ifvyou wont to call yourself that yet not try to decieve people perhapd put a little line in your profule that says "i class myself as a non smoker as i only vape now using e-cigs, I am respectful with it" or words to that effect |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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How does non radioactive additive free organic tobacco fit in here?
It don't smell like any other Tobacco as they all have aroma substances etc which gives it the smell..is health benefits to smoking pure organic additive free tobacco. Look at sherpas or high altitude mountaineers or up in Andes smoking normal. Hardens lungs bit its all good.
Only reason tobacco is unsafe is because its radioactive and its the radioactive shit that causes cancers etc not the tobacco that's fact!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Non smoker well done, just keep it that way!
I seriously need to give up 
Considering the whole vaping thing, but not quite got around to it yet."
iv got 1, bout half and half now. |
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over a year ago
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"How does non radioactive additive free organic tobacco fit in here?
It don't smell like any other Tobacco as they all have aroma substances etc which gives it the smell..is health benefits to smoking pure organic additive free tobacco. Look at sherpas or high altitude mountaineers or up in Andes smoking normal. Hardens lungs bit its all good.
Only reason tobacco is unsafe is because its radioactive and its the radioactive shit that causes cancers etc not the tobacco that's fact!! "
fact?? if you say so.... |
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"How does non radioactive additive free organic tobacco fit in here?
It don't smell like any other Tobacco as they all have aroma substances etc which gives it the smell..is health benefits to smoking pure organic additive free tobacco. Look at sherpas or high altitude mountaineers or up in Andes smoking normal. Hardens lungs bit its all good.
Only reason tobacco is unsafe is because its radioactive and its the radioactive shit that causes cancers etc not the tobacco that's fact!! "
Theres actually a lot of debate on the subject of organic tobacco so its hardly a fact |
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"How does non radioactive additive free organic tobacco fit in here?
It don't smell like any other Tobacco as they all have aroma substances etc which gives it the smell..is health benefits to smoking pure organic additive free tobacco. Look at sherpas or high altitude mountaineers or up in Andes smoking normal. Hardens lungs bit its all good.
Only reason tobacco is unsafe is because its radioactive and its the radioactive shit that causes cancers etc not the tobacco that's fact!! fact?? if you say so.... "
Read reports from cancer research UK and tell me I'm not right. This a simple explanation. Tobacco firms and govs have known its radioactive for long long time. Don't tell anyone as don't want to cause panic lol after all are lots of other plants both _ruit and veg all sprayed with the same lead 210 and Polonium-210 and this is fact darling. The food you eat causes cancer not just non organic tobacco but not in your world eh |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How does non radioactive additive free organic tobacco fit in here?
It don't smell like any other Tobacco as they all have aroma substances etc which gives it the smell..is health benefits to smoking pure organic additive free tobacco. Look at sherpas or high altitude mountaineers or up in Andes smoking normal. Hardens lungs bit its all good.
Only reason tobacco is unsafe is because its radioactive and its the radioactive shit that causes cancers etc not the tobacco that's fact!!
Theres actually a lot of debate on the subject of organic tobacco so its hardly a fact "
Debate haha say what? |
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"How does non radioactive additive free organic tobacco fit in here?
It don't smell like any other Tobacco as they all have aroma substances etc which gives it the smell..is health benefits to smoking pure organic additive free tobacco. Look at sherpas or high altitude mountaineers or up in Andes smoking normal. Hardens lungs bit its all good.
Only reason tobacco is unsafe is because its radioactive and its the radioactive shit that causes cancers etc not the tobacco that's fact!! fact?? if you say so....
Read reports from cancer research UK and tell me I'm not right. This a simple explanation. Tobacco firms and govs have known its radioactive for long long time. Don't tell anyone as don't want to cause panic lol after all are lots of other plants both _ruit and veg all sprayed with the same lead 210 and Polonium-210 and this is fact darling. The food you eat causes cancer not just non organic tobacco but not in your world eh"
We all have cancer cells laying dormant, many things can trigger cancer its hardly a black and white subject |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How does non radioactive additive free organic tobacco fit in here?
It don't smell like any other Tobacco as they all have aroma substances etc which gives it the smell..is health benefits to smoking pure organic additive free tobacco. Look at sherpas or high altitude mountaineers or up in Andes smoking normal. Hardens lungs bit its all good.
Only reason tobacco is unsafe is because its radioactive and its the radioactive shit that causes cancers etc not the tobacco that's fact!! fact?? if you say so....
Read reports from cancer research UK and tell me I'm not right. This a simple explanation. Tobacco firms and govs have known its radioactive for long long time. Don't tell anyone as don't want to cause panic lol after all are lots of other plants both _ruit and veg all sprayed with the same lead 210 and Polonium-210 and this is fact darling. The food you eat causes cancer not just non organic tobacco but not in your world eh
We all have cancer cells laying dormant, many things can trigger cancer its hardly a black and white subject"
That's not true sorry but your wrong there. Can you prove this statement "we all have" I doubt Amazonian Indians have cancer cells or Mongolian tribes men. Its food consumed and environmental factors that give us cancers. Tap water and cars being big players.
Does you more damage walking down the average high street in UK than ever will smoking an organic...fag. car exhaust fumes are worse for you than fags but ain't gonna ban cars are they |
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"How does non radioactive additive free organic tobacco fit in here?
It don't smell like any other Tobacco as they all have aroma substances etc which gives it the smell..is health benefits to smoking pure organic additive free tobacco. Look at sherpas or high altitude mountaineers or up in Andes smoking normal. Hardens lungs bit its all good.
Only reason tobacco is unsafe is because its radioactive and its the radioactive shit that causes cancers etc not the tobacco that's fact!! fact?? if you say so....
Read reports from cancer research UK and tell me I'm not right. This a simple explanation. Tobacco firms and govs have known its radioactive for long long time. Don't tell anyone as don't want to cause panic lol after all are lots of other plants both _ruit and veg all sprayed with the same lead 210 and Polonium-210 and this is fact darling. The food you eat causes cancer not just non organic tobacco but not in your world eh
We all have cancer cells laying dormant, many things can trigger cancer its hardly a black and white subject
That's not true sorry but your wrong there. Can you prove this statement "we all have" I doubt Amazonian Indians have cancer cells or Mongolian tribes men. Its food consumed and environmental factors that give us cancers. Tap water and cars being big players.
Does you more damage walking down the average high street in UK than ever will smoking an organic...fag. car exhaust fumes are worse for you than fags but ain't gonna ban cars are they"
Even in the most remote areas of the world polluntants exsist man made or natural ones exposure to which can trigger cancer cells. No one is immune. If you want to believe otherwise your choice. Theres recent evidence to suggest that simple hormonal changes within the body can activate dormant cancer cells. Oganic tobacco still contains nictotine(therefore addictive and still potentially hazardous long term) its just grown in a safer way with less chemicals added the same way organic (for example) a carrot is grown organically, it doesnt have chemicals added but its still a carrot. |
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over a year ago
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"How does non radioactive additive free organic tobacco fit in here?
It don't smell like any other Tobacco as they all have aroma substances etc which gives it the smell..is health benefits to smoking pure organic additive free tobacco. Look at sherpas or high altitude mountaineers or up in Andes smoking normal. Hardens lungs bit its all good.
Only reason tobacco is unsafe is because its radioactive and its the radioactive shit that causes cancers etc not the tobacco that's fact!! fact?? if you say so....
Read reports from cancer research UK and tell me I'm not right. This a simple explanation. Tobacco firms and govs have known its radioactive for long long time. Don't tell anyone as don't want to cause panic lol after all are lots of other plants both _ruit and veg all sprayed with the same lead 210 and Polonium-210 and this is fact darling. The food you eat causes cancer not just non organic tobacco but not in your world eh
We all have cancer cells laying dormant, many things can trigger cancer its hardly a black and white subject
That's not true sorry but your wrong there. Can you prove this statement "we all have" I doubt Amazonian Indians have cancer cells or Mongolian tribes men. Its food consumed and environmental factors that give us cancers. Tap water and cars being big players.
Does you more damage walking down the average high street in UK than ever will smoking an organic...fag. car exhaust fumes are worse for you than fags but ain't gonna ban cars are they
Even in the most remote areas of the world polluntants exsist man made or natural ones exposure to which can trigger cancer cells. No one is immune. If you want to believe otherwise your choice. Theres recent evidence to suggest that simple hormonal changes within the body can activate dormant cancer cells. Oganic tobacco still contains nictotine(therefore addictive and still potentially hazardous long term) its just grown in a safer way with less chemicals added the same way organic (for example) a carrot is grown organically, it doesnt have chemicals added but its still a carrot. "
Not sure what your Trying to say. You told me no facts just your opinion. Less chemicals. Try no chemicals dear. I've been to the place the best comes from. Is competly chemical free from feed to washing to production. Yes has nicoteen, but we have a receptor for that bit like the receptors for canabinoid but that another subject |
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"How does non radioactive additive free organic tobacco fit in here?
It don't smell like any other Tobacco as they all have aroma substances etc which gives it the smell..is health benefits to smoking pure organic additive free tobacco. Look at sherpas or high altitude mountaineers or up in Andes smoking normal. Hardens lungs bit its all good.
Only reason tobacco is unsafe is because its radioactive and its the radioactive shit that causes cancers etc not the tobacco that's fact!! fact?? if you say so....
Read reports from cancer research UK and tell me I'm not right. This a simple explanation. Tobacco firms and govs have known its radioactive for long long time. Don't tell anyone as don't want to cause panic lol after all are lots of other plants both _ruit and veg all sprayed with the same lead 210 and Polonium-210 and this is fact darling. The food you eat causes cancer not just non organic tobacco but not in your world eh"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok less waa a poor choice of words I meant no chemicals. I cant present you with my facts a they havent been published by cancer reasearch yet but watch this space! "
I got them here published b cancer research UK and countless other scientific reports. I don't need to watch any space have pile of reports here with facts, thanks anyway |
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"Ok less waa a poor choice of words I meant no chemicals. I cant present you with my facts a they havent been published by cancer reasearch yet but watch this space!
I got them here published b cancer research UK and countless other scientific reports. I don't need to watch any space have pile of reports here with facts, thanks anyway"
Ok you win I lose. You happy now? |
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"Ok less waa a poor choice of words I meant no chemicals. I cant present you with my facts a they havent been published by cancer reasearch yet but watch this space! "
I have a copy of the actual research data with regards to this and also lot more from the labs of cancer research...but this not got all the facts anyway and have far more reports in greater scientific detail on organic tobacco vs normal tobacco.
This her basic cancer info on radioactive materials tobacco in cancer research
http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/05/24/tobacco-firms-have-failed-to-act-on-radioactivity-in-cigarettes-heres-why/ |
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"Ok less waa a poor choice of words I meant no chemicals. I cant present you with my facts a they havent been published by cancer reasearch yet but watch this space!
I got them here published b cancer research UK and countless other scientific reports. I don't need to watch any space have pile of reports here with facts, thanks anyway
Ok you win I lose. You happy now? "
I'm not trying to win..its not about winners and losers I was asking for you to back up your opinion...is all seeing you sseemed to disagree with mine lol |
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"Ok less waa a poor choice of words I meant no chemicals. I cant present you with my facts a they havent been published by cancer reasearch yet but watch this space!
I got them here published b cancer research UK and countless other scientific reports. I don't need to watch any space have pile of reports here with facts, thanks anyway
Ok you win I lose. You happy now?
I'm not trying to win..its not about winners and losers I was asking for you to back up your opinion...is all seeing you sseemed to disagree with mine lol "
I wasnt outrightly disagreeing i was given my opinion to try and open your mind to somethimg you may not have considered, given all the facts you have, my part of the discussion.with you was there are many causes of cancer.
I am my entitled to give my opinion without justifying it on a public forum. I may not have stacks of facts to my disposal but im working closely with cancer reasearch/medical professionals exploring how hormonal changes effect dormant cancer cells given i recovered from breast cancer and they believe it was the hormonal change from carrying a miltiple pregnancy that triggered my cancer, it still.in.th research stages so theres no.proof as such yet but as i said watch this space |
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By *jandjbCouple
over a year ago
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Returning to the original question of the OP I would like to say that as a non smoker I have an acute sense of taste and smell. I grew up in a household of smoking parents and hated it. I'm not happy to meet even "considerate" smokers and can always taste nicotine on those who vape. Just saying.  |
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"Returning to the original question of the OP I would like to say that as a non smoker I have an acute sense of taste and smell. I grew up in a household of smoking parents and hated it. I'm not happy to meet even "considerate" smokers and can always taste nicotine on those who vape. Just saying. "
I can taste it on someone that vapes too |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Well that turned into the curveymamma and Jack wolf skin show right there lol, it's fitting to say not only hi curvy but " hi jack" to lol see what I did there |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If you vap a flavour cig ie cherry its fine . But those with nicotine added have as much carcinogenic properties as a cigarette
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I am using it as a nicotine replacement therapy, so therefore there is nicotine in all of the liquids I use, this thread was never about health or anything like that it was about honesty of telling potential meets about my smoking |
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"Ok I have changed my profile, have a look see what you think x"
That added paragraph gets a big thumbs up from me says everthing it needs too whilst showing your opinion of the subject (your a non smoker) and remaining diplomatic the those of the opposing view.
Oh abd as a side note Hello to you too sorry i digressed from topic ill be over in the naunghty corner punish me how you deem fit |
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"Ok I have changed my profile, have a look see what you think x
That added paragraph gets a big thumbs up from me says everthing it needs too whilst showing your opinion of the subject (your a non smoker) and remaining diplomatic the those of the opposing view.
Oh abd as a side note Hello to you too sorry i digressed from topic ill be over in the naunghty corner punish me how you deem fit "
Ooh how could I refuse an offer like that lol |
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"Ok I have changed my profile, have a look see what you think x
That added paragraph gets a big thumbs up from me says everthing it needs too whilst showing your opinion of the subject (your a non smoker) and remaining diplomatic the those of the opposing view.
Oh abd as a side note Hello to you too sorry i digressed from topic ill be over in the naunghty corner punish me how you deem fit
Ooh how could I refuse an offer like that lol "
Careful! I mat digress again |
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"Ok I have changed my profile, have a look see what you think x
That added paragraph gets a big thumbs up from me says everthing it needs too whilst showing your opinion of the subject (your a non smoker) and remaining diplomatic the those of the opposing view.
Oh abd as a side note Hello to you too sorry i digressed from topic ill be over in the naunghty corner punish me how you deem fit
Ooh how could I refuse an offer like that lol
Careful! I mat digress again "
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"Ok I have changed my profile, have a look see what you think x
That added paragraph gets a big thumbs up from me says everthing it needs too whilst showing your opinion of the subject (your a non smoker) and remaining diplomatic the those of the opposing view.
Oh abd as a side note Hello to you too sorry i digressed from topic ill be over in the naunghty corner punish me how you deem fit
Ooh how could I refuse an offer like that lol
Careful! I mat digress again
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By (user no longer on site)
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I haven't had a cigarette since my last one, does that make me a non smoker now..
I believe it would take more than changing that on my profile to change my luck on here |
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"I haven't had a cigarette since my last one, does that make me a non smoker now..
I believe it would take more than changing that on my profile to change my luck on here "
You not had any luck then? Shame that |
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"I haven't had a cigarette since my last one, does that make me a non smoker now..
I believe it would take more than changing that on my profile to change my luck on here
You not had any luck then? Shame that "
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