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"my grandson is two and refuses to give up its comfort more than anything my daughter is desperately trying to wean him off it" If she needs any help | |||
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"on TLC mum still breast feeding a 5 year old right or wrong?" Not my call. If it's right for them. | |||
"Ive tasted it straight from breast an its good carry on as long as in own home " Why should it just be in their own home...breast feeding is natural and been around for 100's of years. | |||
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"my grandson is two and refuses to give up its comfort more than anything my daughter is desperately trying to wean him off it If she needs any help " | |||
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"my grandson is two and refuses to give up its comfort more than anything my daughter is desperately trying to wean him off it If she needs any help " Really??? | |||
"It's well weird suckin' it straight from your mums tit, much better to get your milk from a different species, that's normal and how allah intended it to be." | |||
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"It's well weird suckin' it straight from your mums tit, much better to get your milk from a different species, that's normal and how allah intended it to be." Did Allah invent milking cows then | |||
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"Ive tasted it straight from breast an its good carry on as long as in own home Why should it just be in their own home...breast feeding is natural and been around for 100's of years. " Are you sure it's as long as that ? | |||
"It's well weird suckin' it straight from your mums tit, much better to get your milk from a different species, that's normal and how allah intended it to be. Did Allah invent milking cows then " Allah was the original dairy farmer. | |||
"It's well weird suckin' it straight from your mums tit, much better to get your milk from a different species, that's normal and how allah intended it to be. Did Allah invent milking cows then " Yeah, they used to explode before he thought to milk one. | |||
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"the biggest problem when they are older is that they have teeth!!!" i daren't post. | |||
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"Ive tasted it straight from breast an its good carry on as long as in own home Why should it just be in their own home...breast feeding is natural and been around for 100's of years. Are you sure it's as long as that ?" You tell me oh woman of so much wisdom | |||
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"It's well weird suckin' it straight from your mums tit, much better to get your milk from a different species, that's normal and how allah intended it to be. Did Allah invent milking cows then Yeah, they used to explode before he thought to milk one." Oh phrase f**king Allah | |||
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" Not something i think highly of, at that age. What's the husband/partner/father to say about it. Do these types of program ever feature H//P or F's? " Husband's not saying much...he's on the other tit | |||
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"Not for me I breast fed all my kids but stopped at a year old, I still expressed my milk for a while after for using with weetabix, infant rice etc but I'd have never had fed them from me after a year old, I think the longer you do it the harder it is to wean them off Not my place to tell others what to do I just did what I felt was right for me and my children " I agree with this | |||
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"the biggest problem when they are older is that they have teeth!!!" This!!! | |||
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"There are many studies that show that there are advantages to breast feeding infants and some of these advantages are increased by extending the duration of breast feeding. Examples cognitive development, reduction in adult obesity. There are also studies that show breast feeding reduces the risk of breast cancer in the mother. It must be said however that the common theme in all these are the benefits are only small but significant. It was common in the past for mothers to breast feed to the age of 5 or 6 but in modern times this has dropped off. Social attitudes should never stop a mother breast feeding as long as she wishes. " Social attitude, or conventional wisdom, should be considered. Even if it's just to see why a consensus exists. Here, the social and psychological damage is why the consensus of "the poor kid; that's fucked up" and I think extolling the infant benefits of breastfeeding is a very weak argument for breastfeeding a child of that age. | |||
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"It's is biologically normal for a kid that age to be breastfed. The natural weaning age of our species is around 7. A lot of countries feed to a much later age than we do. World Health Organisation guidelines state that a child should be breastfed until at LEAST 2 years old and then for however much longer the mum and child wish to continue. Nutritionally, breastmilk is the most complete food on the planet and has all sorts of stuff in it that formula doesn't have. To say it has no nutritional value beyond 6 months or a year is ridiculous. Breastfeeding when the kid has teeth is no big deal. I bf my kids until they were almost 3. I only really stopped because of the pressures of society - I didn't want them bullied at school about it - how sad is that? The only thing that would psychologically mess up a kid would be society's attitudes, not the act of nursing. So women are trying to highlight the pros of extended breastfeeding to normalise it a bit more. A long time ago (Victorian era I think?) it was considered something that only the lower classes did and if you were rich you have your baby only sugar and water. Unsurprisingly a lot of babies died and a lot had health problems. So just because something is society's attitude, doesn't mean it's best for anyone. " Bravo! | |||
"Breast feeding always is and will be an interesting debate. Whilst studies show the benefits its recently been proven that the most beneficial form of breast milk is the one known as Clostrum. (Which is the thicker creamier milk thats produced i onlt the first few days after birth) most medical professionals will now tell you that if you only manage to breast feed till clostrum stops youve given the child all the benefits it needs, even though breast feeding is still encouraged until at least 6months of age. Now from my circle of friends/family and my own experience(which is my only real base for comparison) here are some exampkes i find interesting; My oldest/closet friend breast fed til the age one, her little ones seem to catch every little thing going and spend more time ill than well, they both have a low white blood cell count so very little antibodies, which are what fight illness and breast milk is supposed to encourage to develop better the more you do it. To the best of my friends knowledge there is no history of low white blood cell count decficency in the family its just her kids that have it. My sister never even attempted breast feeding always bottle fed her 4 kids, They seem to get ill a lot too but recover a lot quicker than my friends kids and their blood cell counts are normal, however they all have various behavioural difficulties as they all have been diagnosed on the autistic spectrum. Medical studies show autism has increased in the modern age, also that very few mothers choose to breast fed, but no official link has been made between the two things. Now I myself was the only one of my siblings to be solely breast fed for tge first year and I too have a low white blood cell count and I have B12 injections every 3 months and will for the rest of my life to boost my immune system, I have no other issues past being asthmatic like my mum and having weight issues. My other siblings were solely formula fed (my mother didnt want them to be ill the way i was and she.believed it was breast feeding that did it), They still got ill but not to.the degree I did and they recovered quicker than me, they have never had weight issue the way i have, but my sister is dyslexic and my brother is dyspraxic. My twins were breast fed but only for the first few days so only really got the milk in Clostrum form. I had to stop as there was no milk being produced in my left breast, which was quickly discovered to be due to having stage one breast cancer. From then on my twins were formula fed (medically described as being mix fed babies). Touch wood, they have never had any major health issues (just the odd common cold),even though regularly being exposed (via nusery) to highly contagious conditions like chicken pox and hand, foot and mouth disease and have no developmental or behavioural issues such as autism, dyslexia or dyspraxia. By no means are any of the above experiences/examples, scientific or medical proof of anything, but I do find It interesting and based on them I would personally say that Mix feeding is the obvious way forward." Should add, My twins have never had any weight issue either | |||
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"Not that I know a lot, being a man and everything but surely after a child is weined at about 6 months that should be the end of breastfeeding. As the body can get the nutrients it needs from food. Also breastfeeding like this prevents the father from bonding with the child. My children were bottle fed for one reason or another (not that that makes any difference, it was simply our choice at the time) and I loved being able to care for them like that and it built a bond early on" In all fairness on the male bonding front a woman can express the milk so the father is able to do a bottle feed and have more time bond | |||
"Breast feeding always is and will be an interesting debate. Whilst studies show the benefits its recently been proven that the most beneficial form of breast milk is the one known as Clostrum. (Which is the thicker creamier milk thats produced i onlt the first few days after birth) most medical professionals will now tell you that if you only manage to breast feed till clostrum stops youve given the child all the benefits it needs, even though breast feeding is still encouraged until at least 6months of age. Now from my circle of friends/family and my own experience(which is my only real base for comparison) here are some exampkes i find interesting; My oldest/closet friend breast fed til the age one, her little ones seem to catch every little thing going and spend more time ill than well, they both have a low white blood cell count so very little antibodies, which are what fight illness and breast milk is supposed to encourage to develop better the more you do it. To the best of my friends knowledge there is no history of low white blood cell count decficency in the family its just her kids that have it. My sister never even attempted breast feeding always bottle fed her 4 kids, They seem to get ill a lot too but recover a lot quicker than my friends kids and their blood cell counts are normal, however they all have various behavioural difficulties as they all have been diagnosed on the autistic spectrum. Medical studies show autism has increased in the modern age, also that very few mothers choose to breast fed, but no official link has been made between the two things. Now I myself was the only one of my siblings to be solely breast fed for tge first year and I too have a low white blood cell count and I have B12 injections every 3 months and will for the rest of my life to boost my immune system, I have no other issues past being asthmatic like my mum and having weight issues. My other siblings were solely formula fed (my mother didnt want them to be ill the way i was and she.believed it was breast feeding that did it), They still got ill but not to.the degree I did and they recovered quicker than me, they have never had weight issue the way i have, but my sister is dyslexic and my brother is dyspraxic. My twins were breast fed but only for the first few days so only really got the milk in Clostrum form. I had to stop as there was no milk being produced in my left breast, which was quickly discovered to be due to having stage one breast cancer. From then on my twins were formula fed (medically described as being mix fed babies). Touch wood, they have never had any major health issues (just the odd common cold),even though regularly being exposed (via nusery) to highly contagious conditions like chicken pox and hand, foot and mouth disease and have no developmental or behavioural issues such as autism, dyslexia or dyspraxia. By no means are any of the above experiences/examples, scientific or medical proof of anything, but I do find It interesting and based on them I would personally say that Mix feeding is the obvious way forward." I'm sure I can find you a lady who smoked all her life and died in her 80's I her sleep and a little kid who never smoked who died of lung cancer so based on that, even though it's not scientific, I recommend we all start smoking immediately. My kids were exclusively breastfed, were always big chunky babies who never lost weight, even in their first week of life. And both have lots of behavioural problems. Autism is a genetic disorder and the rise of kids with it is due to much better understanding and diagnosis. Before, kids were institutionalised, a lot of girls on the autistic spectrum were misdiagnosed with depression, and the rest were labelled "naughty" or the parenting was blamed. It's not to do with breastfeeding rates. | |||
"Breast feeding always is and will be an interesting debate. Whilst studies show the benefits its recently been proven that the most beneficial form of breast milk is the one known as Clostrum. (Which is the thicker creamier milk thats produced i onlt the first few days after birth) most medical professionals will now tell you that if you only manage to breast feed till clostrum stops youve given the child all the benefits it needs, even though breast feeding is still encouraged until at least 6months of age. Now from my circle of friends/family and my own experience(which is my only real base for comparison) here are some exampkes i find interesting; My oldest/closet friend breast fed til the age one, her little ones seem to catch every little thing going and spend more time ill than well, they both have a low white blood cell count so very little antibodies, which are what fight illness and breast milk is supposed to encourage to develop better the more you do it. To the best of my friends knowledge there is no history of low white blood cell count decficency in the family its just her kids that have it. My sister never even attempted breast feeding always bottle fed her 4 kids, They seem to get ill a lot too but recover a lot quicker than my friends kids and their blood cell counts are normal, however they all have various behavioural difficulties as they all have been diagnosed on the autistic spectrum. Medical studies show autism has increased in the modern age, also that very few mothers choose to breast fed, but no official link has been made between the two things. Now I myself was the only one of my siblings to be solely breast fed for tge first year and I too have a low white blood cell count and I have B12 injections every 3 months and will for the rest of my life to boost my immune system, I have no other issues past being asthmatic like my mum and having weight issues. My other siblings were solely formula fed (my mother didnt want them to be ill the way i was and she.believed it was breast feeding that did it), They still got ill but not to.the degree I did and they recovered quicker than me, they have never had weight issue the way i have, but my sister is dyslexic and my brother is dyspraxic. My twins were breast fed but only for the first few days so only really got the milk in Clostrum form. I had to stop as there was no milk being produced in my left breast, which was quickly discovered to be due to having stage one breast cancer. From then on my twins were formula fed (medically described as being mix fed babies). Touch wood, they have never had any major health issues (just the odd common cold),even though regularly being exposed (via nusery) to highly contagious conditions like chicken pox and hand, foot and mouth disease and have no developmental or behavioural issues such as autism, dyslexia or dyspraxia. By no means are any of the above experiences/examples, scientific or medical proof of anything, but I do find It interesting and based on them I would personally say that Mix feeding is the obvious way forward. I'm sure I can find you a lady who smoked all her life and died in her 80's I her sleep and a little kid who never smoked who died of lung cancer so based on that, even though it's not scientific, I recommend we all start smoking immediately. My kids were exclusively breastfed, were always big chunky babies who never lost weight, even in their first week of life. And both have lots of behavioural problems. Autism is a genetic disorder and the rise of kids with it is due to much better understanding and diagnosis. Before, kids were institutionalised, a lot of girls on the autistic spectrum were misdiagnosed with depression, and the rest were labelled "naughty" or the parenting was blamed. It's not to do with breastfeeding rates." I wasnt blaming breast feeding i was merely suggesting there could be a link but it was and isnt likely to be proven but to the best of our knowledge theres no history of autism in our or my brother in.laws family yet all 4 of their children have it, which again makes it interesting seen as its supposed to be genetic | |||
"Reading this thread reminds me of the little Britain sketch. Serious side now, breast feeding is a natural thing, I would say doing it till the child is 5 is a bit odd though." Would you think it odd though if a five year old child still took a bottle of milk to bed with them at night as a comfort thing? I think I probably would but not a 2-3 year old, I would accept that, most people would. Its the sexualisation of breasts that makes breastfeeding beyond a few months unacceptable to society | |||
"Breast feeding always is and will be an interesting debate. Whilst studies show the benefits its recently been proven that the most beneficial form of breast milk is the one known as Clostrum. (Which is the thicker creamier milk thats produced i onlt the first few days after birth) most medical professionals will now tell you that if you only manage to breast feed till clostrum stops youve given the child all the benefits it needs, even though breast feeding is still encouraged until at least 6months of age. Now from my circle of friends/family and my own experience(which is my only real base for comparison) here are some exampkes i find interesting; My oldest/closet friend breast fed til the age one, her little ones seem to catch every little thing going and spend more time ill than well, they both have a low white blood cell count so very little antibodies, which are what fight illness and breast milk is supposed to encourage to develop better the more you do it. To the best of my friends knowledge there is no history of low white blood cell count decficency in the family its just her kids that have it. My sister never even attempted breast feeding always bottle fed her 4 kids, They seem to get ill a lot too but recover a lot quicker than my friends kids and their blood cell counts are normal, however they all have various behavioural difficulties as they all have been diagnosed on the autistic spectrum. Medical studies show autism has increased in the modern age, also that very few mothers choose to breast fed, but no official link has been made between the two things. Now I myself was the only one of my siblings to be solely breast fed for tge first year and I too have a low white blood cell count and I have B12 injections every 3 months and will for the rest of my life to boost my immune system, I have no other issues past being asthmatic like my mum and having weight issues. My other siblings were solely formula fed (my mother didnt want them to be ill the way i was and she.believed it was breast feeding that did it), They still got ill but not to.the degree I did and they recovered quicker than me, they have never had weight issue the way i have, but my sister is dyslexic and my brother is dyspraxic. My twins were breast fed but only for the first few days so only really got the milk in Clostrum form. I had to stop as there was no milk being produced in my left breast, which was quickly discovered to be due to having stage one breast cancer. From then on my twins were formula fed (medically described as being mix fed babies). Touch wood, they have never had any major health issues (just the odd common cold),even though regularly being exposed (via nusery) to highly contagious conditions like chicken pox and hand, foot and mouth disease and have no developmental or behavioural issues such as autism, dyslexia or dyspraxia. By no means are any of the above experiences/examples, scientific or medical proof of anything, but I do find It interesting and based on them I would personally say that Mix feeding is the obvious way forward. I'm sure I can find you a lady who smoked all her life and died in her 80's I her sleep and a little kid who never smoked who died of lung cancer so based on that, even though it's not scientific, I recommend we all start smoking immediately. My kids were exclusively breastfed, were always big chunky babies who never lost weight, even in their first week of life. And both have lots of behavioural problems. Autism is a genetic disorder and the rise of kids with it is due to much better understanding and diagnosis. Before, kids were institutionalised, a lot of girls on the autistic spectrum were misdiagnosed with depression, and the rest were labelled "naughty" or the parenting was blamed. It's not to do with breastfeeding rates. I wasnt blaming breast feeding i was merely suggesting there could be a link but it was and isnt likely to be proven but to the best of our knowledge theres no history of autism in our or my brother in.laws family yet all 4 of their children have it, which again makes it interesting seen as its supposed to be genetic " It's more likely that there's no diagnosed history of it in the family. I would suspect certain family members carry some autistic traits. High intelligence, picky eater, sensitive to noise, etc. Every family I know with ASD diagnosed kids slowly realises that "oh that explains the quirky uncle we had". Or "yeah I never learned to speak until I was five either, but no one explained why". | |||
"Breast feeding always is and will be an interesting debate. Whilst studies show the benefits its recently been proven that the most beneficial form of breast milk is the one known as Clostrum. (Which is the thicker creamier milk thats produced i onlt the first few days after birth) most medical professionals will now tell you that if you only manage to breast feed till clostrum stops youve given the child all the benefits it needs, even though breast feeding is still encouraged until at least 6months of age. Now from my circle of friends/family and my own experience(which is my only real base for comparison) here are some exampkes i find interesting; My oldest/closet friend breast fed til the age one, her little ones seem to catch every little thing going and spend more time ill than well, they both have a low white blood cell count so very little antibodies, which are what fight illness and breast milk is supposed to encourage to develop better the more you do it. To the best of my friends knowledge there is no history of low white blood cell count decficency in the family its just her kids that have it. My sister never even attempted breast feeding always bottle fed her 4 kids, They seem to get ill a lot too but recover a lot quicker than my friends kids and their blood cell counts are normal, however they all have various behavioural difficulties as they all have been diagnosed on the autistic spectrum. Medical studies show autism has increased in the modern age, also that very few mothers choose to breast fed, but no official link has been made between the two things. Now I myself was the only one of my siblings to be solely breast fed for tge first year and I too have a low white blood cell count and I have B12 injections every 3 months and will for the rest of my life to boost my immune system, I have no other issues past being asthmatic like my mum and having weight issues. My other siblings were solely formula fed (my mother didnt want them to be ill the way i was and she.believed it was breast feeding that did it), They still got ill but not to.the degree I did and they recovered quicker than me, they have never had weight issue the way i have, but my sister is dyslexic and my brother is dyspraxic. My twins were breast fed but only for the first few days so only really got the milk in Clostrum form. I had to stop as there was no milk being produced in my left breast, which was quickly discovered to be due to having stage one breast cancer. From then on my twins were formula fed (medically described as being mix fed babies). Touch wood, they have never had any major health issues (just the odd common cold),even though regularly being exposed (via nusery) to highly contagious conditions like chicken pox and hand, foot and mouth disease and have no developmental or behavioural issues such as autism, dyslexia or dyspraxia. By no means are any of the above experiences/examples, scientific or medical proof of anything, but I do find It interesting and based on them I would personally say that Mix feeding is the obvious way forward. I'm sure I can find you a lady who smoked all her life and died in her 80's I her sleep and a little kid who never smoked who died of lung cancer so based on that, even though it's not scientific, I recommend we all start smoking immediately. My kids were exclusively breastfed, were always big chunky babies who never lost weight, even in their first week of life. And both have lots of behavioural problems. Autism is a genetic disorder and the rise of kids with it is due to much better understanding and diagnosis. Before, kids were institutionalised, a lot of girls on the autistic spectrum were misdiagnosed with depression, and the rest were labelled "naughty" or the parenting was blamed. It's not to do with breastfeeding rates. I wasnt blaming breast feeding i was merely suggesting there could be a link but it was and isnt likely to be proven but to the best of our knowledge theres no history of autism in our or my brother in.laws family yet all 4 of their children have it, which again makes it interesting seen as its supposed to be genetic It's more likely that there's no diagnosed history of it in the family. I would suspect certain family members carry some autistic traits. High intelligence, picky eater, sensitive to noise, etc. Every family I know with ASD diagnosed kids slowly realises that "oh that explains the quirky uncle we had". Or "yeah I never learned to speak until I was five either, but no one explained why"." Thats a fair point and I cant comment on my brother in laws side of the brother in.laws side of the family as i dont know them well enough but we have not signs of it in our side except for in my sisters children and all 4 of them exhibit it in different ways, they eldest is the picky eater, the 2nd eldest is a stickler for rountine, the 3rd is a sequencer and the 4th is sensitive to noise and lighting changes. | |||
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"I was breastfed myself, im no more obsessed with breasts than any other man. But wonder how many men would still want to be breastfed if there partner was pregnant?" Given tge requests ive had id say a fair few have a desire to try it if not indulge on a regular basis, theres also a lot of money to.be made from selling expressed breast milk | |||
"I was breastfed myself, im no more obsessed with breasts than any other man. But wonder how many men would still want to be breastfed if there partner was pregnant? Given tge requests ive had id say a fair few have a desire to try it if not indulge on a regular basis, theres also a lot of money to.be made from selling expressed breast milk " So ive heard i still remember the sensation of it myself my earliest memory though i was only fed that way till 6 months. | |||
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"Reading this thread reminds me of the little Britain sketch. Serious side now, breast feeding is a natural thing, I would say doing it till the child is 5 is a bit odd though." I think it's freaky. | |||
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"breastfeeding so late can not be teaching them to use table manners etc, the child will like it, It's what they know, it's the parents responsibility to ensure in a timely manner they amend their activity to incorporate skills such as independence " The child still eats normal food , lots of children have no table manners or manners in general . | |||
"So it's odd to breastfeed till 5 but normal to stop giving mums milk and swap to that from another species?? Haha now that's weird " so it would seem. | |||
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"Breasts aren't sexual when you use them for your kids. I think parts of society has a problem with this and women doing what they want with their own body in general." I think you're right. | |||
"Breasts aren't sexual when you use them for your kids. I think parts of society has a problem with this and women doing what they want with their own body in general. I think you're right. " I think it's a small minority of society that consciously thinks this way but it's ended up slightly instilled into many more people. | |||
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"I cant see anything wrong with it. I would say, keep on doing it till she don't produce anymore milk, just wonder is there a time set of how long a woman can lactate for?." You lactate for as long as there is a demand , so no time scale as such | |||
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"I cant see anything wrong with it. I would say, keep on doing it till she don't produce anymore milk, just wonder is there a time set of how long a woman can lactate for?. You lactate for as long as there is a demand , so no time scale as such" I see yes, its an interesting thing tho, how it works x. | |||
"breastfeeding so late can not be teaching them to use table manners etc, the child will like it, It's what they know, it's the parents responsibility to ensure in a timely manner they amend their activity to incorporate skills such as independence " Children don't solely consume milk. Generally they start trying food from around 4-6 months. Milk is in addition to that. So they still learn the other stuff too! | |||
"breastfeeding so late can not be teaching them to use table manners etc, the child will like it, It's what they know, it's the parents responsibility to ensure in a timely manner they amend their activity to incorporate skills such as independence Children don't solely consume milk. Generally they start trying food from around 4-6 months. Milk is in addition to that. So they still learn the other stuff too!" Fair enough, Appreciate the table manners aspect is still maintained | |||
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"Ive tasted it straight from breast an its good carry on as long as in own home Why should it just be in their own home...breast feeding is natural and been around for 100's of years. Are you sure it's as long as that ? You tell me oh woman of so much wisdom " Well given the human race has been around for approximately four million years and that we are mammals. To be a mammal one must have mammary glands, I don't think that except for the past few hundred or so years ago the milk was only used for putting out fires. One would suggest that breast feeding has been around for millions of years, hundreds suggests we have only recently figured out what the stuff is for. | |||