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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.." My BMI is 31 which makes me obese, I'm in no way slim but I like to think I'm not obese, just sturdy! BMI is not a great measure. | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.." I don't think this site promotes big being beautiful. Some men express that they like bigger women as their preference (whether honest or not) but take a look at, for example, the most fabbed photos and you don't see much 'promotion' there. And if we're just going off BMI then yeah I should probably be chained to the treadmill and fed only water for the next 6 months. God forbid I might post photos "celebrating" obesity. | |||
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"*Gets the haribos "You'll get fat!  | |||
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"*Gets the haribos
You'll get fat! "Yeah Shag, stop promoting obesity | |||
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Yeah Shag, stop promoting obesity "lol yes, but in moderation. I just had few cola bottles | |||
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Yeah Shag, stop promoting obesity lol yes, but in moderation. I just had few cola bottles "Avoid the fried eggs, they'll ruin your six pack and then what will you talk about  | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.." My BMI is well above Healthy.. yet I do step several times a week. I swim a few times too. Have physio regime that I do daily and my blood pressure and general health is really good. I am losing weight because I Struggle with others perception of me, and am currently not happy. and I want some clothing that would really not be flattering at my current size. I would love to have the confidence that some of the big ladies on here have.. funny till I got on the scales again my weight didn't bother me in the slightest. Big doesn't have to mean unhealthy.. as I actually prove... and I am well into the red zone on those lovely obese charts they give you and even have a big red stamp on my medical records just in case they miss the fact I am not a size 10
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"For you, how fat is too fat? In the interest of correctly balanced opinions of course." When Greenpeace are trying to pull them back into the water when they lay on the beach | |||
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- our buddy - has a good lean build, so the closer to that the better for me | |||
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"*Gets the haribos
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Yeah Shag, stop promoting obesity lol yes, but in moderation. I just had few cola bottles
Avoid the fried eggs, they'll ruin your six pack and then what will you talk about "That's right or have just one fried eggs one instead of many | |||
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"BMI's are not so accurate when it comes to determining health or attractiveness - I like fit guys, and some very muscled guys have high BMIs but are pretty lean. I'm not keen on guys with too much looseness in their build, so if you saw them running- if they could - there'd be considerable movement and lack of firm support. Obviously waist sizes can get larger, as someone gets taller, without them seeming disproportionately overweight. ShagTonight - our buddy - has a good lean build, so the closer to that the better for me "Thanks and yes I am 82kg, goal is to be around 100 | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.." im fat cos i gave up the fags then i was on diet and became very ill but am trying i hate not being able to wear my clothes have one wardrobe full of nice clothes not getting rid cos i have hopes of losing some weight but always happy | |||
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"BMI's are not so accurate when it comes to determining health or attractiveness - I like fit guys, and some very muscled guys have high BMIs but are pretty lean. I'm not keen on guys with too much looseness in their build, so if you saw them running- if they could - there'd be considerable movement and lack of firm support. Obviously waist sizes can get larger, as someone gets taller, without them seeming disproportionately overweight. ShagTonight - our buddy - has a good lean build, so the closer to that the better for me Thanks and yes I am 82kg, goal is to be around 100 "Lightweight lol, eat more fried eggs!! | |||
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"BMI's are not so accurate when it comes to determining health or attractiveness - I like fit guys, and some very muscled guys have high BMIs but are pretty lean. I'm not keen on guys with too much looseness in their build, so if you saw them running- if they could - there'd be considerable movement and lack of firm support. Obviously waist sizes can get larger, as someone gets taller, without them seeming disproportionately overweight. ShagTonight - our buddy - has a good lean build, so the closer to that the better for me Thanks and yes I am 82kg, goal is to be around 100
Lightweight lol, eat more fried eggs!!"Poached or boiled surely | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.." im fat cos i gave up the fags then i was on diet and became very ill but am trying i hate not being able to wear my clothes have one wardrobe full of nice clothes not getting rid cos i have hopes of losing some weight but always happy | |||
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"BMI's are not so accurate when it comes to determining health or attractiveness - I like fit guys, and some very muscled guys have high BMIs but are pretty lean. I'm not keen on guys with too much looseness in their build, so if you saw them running- if they could - there'd be considerable movement and lack of firm support. Obviously waist sizes can get larger, as someone gets taller, without them seeming disproportionately overweight. ShagTonight - our buddy - has a good lean build, so the closer to that the better for me Thanks and yes I am 82kg, goal is to be around 100
Lightweight lol, eat more fried eggs!!"YEs, would be fun to be on a nice triple digit when weighing in, that's right about 2 or 5 more eggs to eat | |||
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"For me I had got too fat when got to the point where I felt uncomfortable, miserable, embarrassed about how I looked. Some very overweight people are happy, healthy and content. Fat or thin I think when it affects your health something needs to be done. " Agreed! I've always been fat: got married in a size 24 wedding dress 34 years ago, my weight has never impacted on any part of my life until 2013 when I suffered from depression, piled on the Weight and developed diabetes. When I got sick and almost fainted walking 800m and my ex saying he was worried I'd got so big, I did something about it. Still big, but it's a work in progress. Joined a gym, replaced bananofee pie with a banana, apple for Apple Danish, ate less and moved more. Losing about 3kg a week and it's staying off. I had to get there on my own. | |||
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"fcuk all the bmi`s and the scales. go by the mirror and you standing bollock naked infront of it "Thanks! I now have a cracked mirror! Is that a bad sign..? | |||
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"why ask such a question on here ?" why not..? surely any issue within the sites rules can be debated in an adult manner without some taking or giving offence? yes the title for some will get their backs up buy however its worded its the OP's prerogative to post a question they wish.. | |||
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"why ask such a question on here ? why not..? surely any issue within the sites rules can be debated in an adult manner without some taking or giving offence? yes the title for some will get their backs up buy however its worded its the OP's prerogative to post a question they wish.. " Because there was a thread called 'How Skinny is too Skinny ...... It's as good a question as any | |||
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"why ask such a question on here ? why not..? surely any issue within the sites rules can be debated in an adult manner without some taking or giving offence? yes the title for some will get their backs up buy however its worded its the OP's prerogative to post a question they wish.. Because there was a thread called 'How Skinny is too Skinny ...... It's as good a question as any" yep.. | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.." My BMI classes me as obese. However i am perfectly healthy. I have no high blood pressure, no colesterol, heart is fine, no diabetes, no knee/back/chest problems. I can easily chase round after kids, i love swimming and i can do all sexual positions with no issues. I have been more or less the same size for 20 years. I eat healthy, in fact probably more healthy than most people. So suggest im not thinking of my future health is very wrong of u. Also to say sites like this having bbws on is wrong is well, again, very wrong if u. | |||
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" Fat or thin I think when it affects your health something needs to be done. "  | |||
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"It's quite sad still seeing these type of questions on here. Can't we all just accept everyone for who they are rather than their size or what is too skinny or too fat. " that ain't gonna happen | |||
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"It's quite sad still seeing these type of questions on here. Can't we all just accept everyone for who they are rather than their size or what is too skinny or too fat. that ain't gonna happen "Clearly | |||
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"It's quite sad still seeing these type of questions on here. Can't we all just accept everyone for who they are rather than their size or what is too skinny or too fat. that ain't gonna happen
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"It's quite sad still seeing these type of questions on here. Can't we all just accept everyone for who they are rather than their size or what is too skinny or too fat. " new people mean repeat questions. i quite like them as new people often bring new perspectives and arguments etc. they also brighten a slow day at times too lol | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it..." Even many doctors are coming round to the fact that it's a guideline though. My BMI almost qualifies me for a gastric band operation, yet on waist to height ratio I'm perfectly fine. Anyone who has seen me can see that yep I'm overweight but not to the extent of morbid obesity, so clearly something is a little off there. I'm not muscly so it's not that. Don't be so patronising in your assumptions. | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it..." I think its misleading as I said earlier. According to it I'm obese at 31. I'm a size 18, 15 stone and have a body fat percentage of 25. Best I get off to the gym and lose some weight | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it... I think its misleading as I said earlier. According to it I'm obese at 31. I'm a size 18, 15 stone and have a body fat percentage of 25. Best I get off to the gym and lose some weight "Interesting you say that as that is what I was 6 months ago....and having been that size I was fat.... 25% BMI means that one quarter of a body is fat - it sits on on and around the organs... Just because people don't like the word "obese" ....the body is one quarter fat...that bit IS true | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it... I think its misleading as I said earlier. According to it I'm obese at 31. I'm a size 18, 15 stone and have a body fat percentage of 25. Best I get off to the gym and lose some weight "No need you're hot! L x | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it... I think its misleading as I said earlier. According to it I'm obese at 31. I'm a size 18, 15 stone and have a body fat percentage of 25. Best I get off to the gym and lose some weight
Interesting you say that as that is what I was 6 months ago....and having been that size I was fat....
25% BMI means that one quarter of a body is fat - it sits on on and around the organs...
Just because people don't like the word "obese" ....the body is one quarter fat...that bit IS true
"But it just 0.1% outside of the healthy range. So the Dr's seem to think up to a quarter of the body being fat is ok lol | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it... I think its misleading as I said earlier. According to it I'm obese at 31. I'm a size 18, 15 stone and have a body fat percentage of 25. Best I get off to the gym and lose some weight
Interesting you say that as that is what I was 6 months ago....and having been that size I was fat....
25% BMI means that one quarter of a body is fat - it sits on on and around the organs...
Just because people don't like the word "obese" ....the body is one quarter fat...that bit IS true
"There are way more indicators to a persons overall health than BMI and body fat such as age, activity level, diet, family history etc. Its just one factor in many that determine a persons overall health. I never said I didn't like the word obese, I don't consider myself that and never will but my build is as a result of years of lifting weights, swimming and cycling. | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it... I think its misleading as I said earlier. According to it I'm obese at 31. I'm a size 18, 15 stone and have a body fat percentage of 25. Best I get off to the gym and lose some weight
Interesting you say that as that is what I was 6 months ago....and having been that size I was fat....
25% BMI means that one quarter of a body is fat - it sits on on and around the organs...
Just because people don't like the word "obese" ....the body is one quarter fat...that bit IS true
"That's not actually what BMI means. Body fat percentages are different from BMI. A 'healthy' body fat percentage range for women is usually 21%-31%. If you're going to advise other people on their health you should probably know what you're talking about. | |||
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"touched a raw nerve I guess" No I just thought i'd clear up the confusion between BMI and body fat percentage for anyone else who was reading. | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it... I think its misleading as I said earlier. According to it I'm obese at 31. I'm a size 18, 15 stone and have a body fat percentage of 25. Best I get off to the gym and lose some weight
No need you're hot! L x"Why thank you my lovely | |||
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"touched a raw nerve I guess No I just thought i'd clear up the confusion between BMI and body fat percentage for anyone else who was reading." You had a valid point they are two.very different things | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.. I don't think this site promotes big being beautiful. Some men express that they like bigger women as their preference (whether honest or not) but take a look at, for example, the most fabbed photos and you don't see much 'promotion' there. And if we're just going off BMI then yeah I should probably be chained to the treadmill and fed only water for the next 6 months. God forbid I might post photos "celebrating" obesity. " I have to agree with this. That said there are times I've felt like a supermodel compared to some on here yet don't have even half of their confidence. | |||
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"It's quite sad still seeing these type of questions on here. Can't we all just accept everyone for who they are rather than their size or what is too skinny or too fat. " Sadly all too many people can not be accepting of others that are different to themselves and as so many differences are now off limits to be a outwardly objectionable to (and rightly so I must add) and body size still being seen as "fair game" to voice loudly a disgust for then I'm afraid too fat and too thin will always be seen as a great opportunity to be contentious  | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it..." Totally agree. Upped my gym visits due to it. | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it..." You don't have to be muscle-bound: My BMI is too high apparently. I am lanky and have fuck all fat on me. But I have big leg muscles and lean, dense muscle in other places. Look at me, then decide whether you think BMW is remotely accurate. | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it... You don't have to be muscle-bound: My BMI is too high apparently. I am lanky and have fuck all fat on me. But I have big leg muscles and lean, dense muscle in other places. Look at me, then decide whether you think BMW is remotely accurate. " I could look at you all day long ... | |||
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"For you, how fat is too fat? In the interest of correctly balanced opinions of course. When Greenpeace are trying to pull them back into the water when they lay on the beach " And I thought they were recruiting me  | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.. My BMI is 31 which makes me obese, I'm in no way slim but I like to think I'm not obese, just sturdy! BMI is not a great measure. " Bmi is a reasonable measure for the average couch potato that makes up most of this country. It does however fall down when it comes to active healthy people with muscle. Where because it works off total body mass not lean or fat body mass it judges them as fat. But unless you happen to be a pretty competent athlete/body builder it's accurate | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.. My BMI is 31 which makes me obese, I'm in no way slim but I like to think I'm not obese, just sturdy! BMI is not a great measure. Bmi is a reasonable measure for the average couch potato that makes up most of this country. It does however fall down when it comes to active healthy people with muscle. Where because it works off total body mass not lean or fat body mass it judges them as fat. But unless you happen to be a pretty competent athlete/body builder it's accurate" I've got a British record, does that count??!! | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.. My BMI is 31 which makes me obese, I'm in no way slim but I like to think I'm not obese, just sturdy! BMI is not a great measure. Bmi is a reasonable measure for the average couch potato that makes up most of this country. It does however fall down when it comes to active healthy people with muscle. Where because it works off total body mass not lean or fat body mass it judges them as fat. But unless you happen to be a pretty competent athlete/body builder it's accurate" Oh well I'm clinically obese after all then. Best get back in my tank | |||
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" I've got a British record, does that count??!!" What sport? Enquiring minds want to know | |||
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" I've got a British record, does that count??!! What sport? Enquiring minds want to know "Darts lol! Powerlifting. | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.. My BMI is 31 which makes me obese, I'm in no way slim but I like to think I'm not obese, just sturdy! BMI is not a great measure. Bmi is a reasonable measure for the average couch potato that makes up most of this country. It does however fall down when it comes to active healthy people with muscle. Where because it works off total body mass not lean or fat body mass it judges them as fat. But unless you happen to be a pretty competent athlete/body builder it's accurate Oh well I'm clinically obese after all then. Best get back in my tank "Or make some very minor changes to your life to result in some long term lasting benefits that have nothing to do with appearance? Until recently my cholesterol was dangerously high, changes to diet and now it's back well within healthy limits. It wasn't a problem for me before the test I never knew it was elevated but a small change now meant that when I'm older there isn't going to be a lot of long term damage done. | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it... You don't have to be muscle-bound: My BMI is too high apparently. I am lanky and have fuck all fat on me. But I have big leg muscles and lean, dense muscle in other places. Look at me, then decide whether you think BMW is remotely accurate. " Had to look a few times to make sure  | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! " Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at | |||
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.. My BMI is 31 which makes me obese, I'm in no way slim but I like to think I'm not obese, just sturdy! BMI is not a great measure. Bmi is a reasonable measure for the average couch potato that makes up most of this country. It does however fall down when it comes to active healthy people with muscle. Where because it works off total body mass not lean or fat body mass it judges them as fat. But unless you happen to be a pretty competent athlete/body builder it's accurate Oh well I'm clinically obese after all then. Best get back in my tank
Or make some very minor changes to your life to result in some long term lasting benefits that have nothing to do with appearance?
Until recently my cholesterol was dangerously high, changes to diet and now it's back well within healthy limits.
It wasn't a problem for me before the test I never knew it was elevated but a small change now meant that when I'm older there isn't going to be a lot of long term damage done."You look good. What would you say are good ways to cut cholesterol? I've cut out alcohol but I do enjoy a cooked breakfast of a weekend. Oh and the odd cake | |||
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"I think too fat is when your beginning to see health problems due to your weight... Just the same as if you were too thin. " I'd agree - but that differs massively from person to person! I, for instance, have a weak heart - and so have to watch my diet/exercise very carefully in order to avoid surgery. Any extra weight causes severe problems. Some men and women, however, can carry a lot more weight than me and maintain a healthy life style. Xx | |||
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" I've got a British record, does that count??!! What sport? Enquiring minds want to know
Darts lol! Powerlifting."Darts would have been the answer I expected the least, but the funniest. I was curious because I used to know someone with a similar build to your pictures who had previously excelled at a particular sport, I wondered how they compared | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at" IVe had to laugh at someone on facebook today. She attends the same exercise classes as me and was saying that she can't see a difference and doesn't understand why. I can't even be bothered to point out the fact that she drinks at least 3 nights a week, eats terribly, is always ordering take always and scoffing chocolate!! As the saying goes you can't out train a bad diet! | |||
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" I've got a British record, does that count??!! What sport? Enquiring minds want to know
Darts lol! Powerlifting.
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at" That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at IVe had to laugh at someone on facebook today. She attends the same exercise classes as me and was saying that she can't see a difference and doesn't understand why. I can't even be bothered to point out the fact that she drinks at least 3 nights a week, eats terribly, is always ordering take always and scoffing chocolate!! As the saying goes you can't out train a bad diet! " In 5 minutes I can eat enough that would take 5 hours of cardio to burn off lol | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense." No you wouldn't. You can happily eat thousands of calories in a meal but you wouldn't have enough hours in the day to burn that off. | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. No you wouldn't. You can happily eat thousands of calories in a meal but you wouldn't have enough hours in the day to burn that off. " That's utter bollocks | |||
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"I will probably word this wrong but here goes, i do often wonder about people with children ( and I have none so am aware I am not qualified to comment ). If people can't get to the very best of health for themselves, they must want to do it for their children. To do everything they possibly can to maximise the time with them, to see them grow up and celebrate grandchildren. I think the same on Bareback threads etc etc... Now, I am not saying overweight/barebackers people are BAD parents, I am not saying that... just to minimise all potential risks to their health. " One of the main reasons I got my arse in gear _iew! Not that I was huge but I was getting bigger and he's only young. Best to get it under control now before it went too far. But..my mum and sister are both big. Much bigger than I was. And when I see their relationship with food it's like a real addiction to them. And they struggle so much. Whereas when I decided I was gonna do it I just got on with it. | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. No you wouldn't. You can happily eat thousands of calories in a meal but you wouldn't have enough hours in the day to burn that off. That's utter bollocks" Really so you think someone on 5k calories a day is best suited to burning that off through what 6 hours plus cardio a day rather than changing thier diet? Or that the average obese person would even be capable of that level of activity without severe injury? Your seriously advocating for fat loss pure exercise over diet alteration? | |||
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"I will probably word this wrong but here goes, i do often wonder about people with children ( and I have none so am aware I am not qualified to comment ). If people can't get to the very best of health for themselves, they must want to do it for their children. To do everything they possibly can to maximise the time with them, to see them grow up and celebrate grandchildren. I think the same on Bareback threads etc etc... Now, I am not saying overweight/barebackers people are BAD parents, I am not saying that... just to minimise all potential risks to their health. One of the main reasons I got my arse in gear _iew! Not that I was huge but I was getting bigger and he's only young. Best to get it under control now before it went too far. But..my mum and sister are both big. Much bigger than I was. And when I see their relationship with food it's like a real addiction to them. And they struggle so much. Whereas when I decided I was gonna do it I just got on with it. " and again, well done | |||
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" It was a joke lol I know, but powerlifting makes a lot of sense
The darts bit was a joke "Sorry, crossed wires. I know darts was a joke, hence powerlifting makes sense. My bad. | |||
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" It was a joke lol I know, but powerlifting makes a lot of sense
The darts bit was a joke
Sorry, crossed wires. I know darts was a joke, hence powerlifting makes sense. My bad."Oh good, as that's what I do, amongst other things! | |||
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"I will probably word this wrong but here goes, i do often wonder about people with children ( and I have none so am aware I am not qualified to comment ). If people can't get to the very best of health for themselves, they must want to do it for their children. To do everything they possibly can to maximise the time with them, to see them grow up and celebrate grandchildren. I think the same on Bareback threads etc etc... Now, I am not saying overweight/barebackers people are BAD parents, I am not saying that... just to minimise all potential risks to their health. " My mum brought us up on home cooked fresh meals and fruit and veg. We had acres of land to run about on and I was and still am an active girl. I walk 3 miles a day etc. However as a kid I was overweight and my mum tried everything but I was a secret eater id eat when she was out in the yard etc. I don't blame my parents for being overweight I blame myself. My mum and my sister are incredibly slim me and my dad are overweight. However I agree with you are saying and it's down to education which some parents lack. It's also a generation thing where kids were brought up on processed deep fried crap who in turn bring their children up on. My sister is very strict with what she feeds her children on and they do not have a weight issue. I will be dammed if my children will be overweight I do not want my children to go through the struggles I did as a child nor do I ever want them to have to deal with an eating disorder which I am still dealing with so many years on. I know myself if I cut out alcohol and crisps then I'd loose more weight than I am now but I have lost over a stone so far. I'm quite contented with who I am and my size right now. Sorry if all the above comes over as a rambling mess | |||
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"I will probably word this wrong but here goes, i do often wonder about people with children ( and I have none so am aware I am not qualified to comment ). If people can't get to the very best of health for themselves, they must want to do it for their children. To do everything they possibly can to maximise the time with them, to see them grow up and celebrate grandchildren. I think the same on Bareback threads etc etc... Now, I am not saying overweight/barebackers people are BAD parents, I am not saying that... just to minimise all potential risks to their health. My mum brought us up on home cooked fresh meals and fruit and veg. We had acres of land to run about on and I was and still am an active girl. I walk 3 miles a day etc. However as a kid I was overweight and my mum tried everything but I was a secret eater id eat when she was out in the yard etc. I don't blame my parents for being overweight I blame myself. My mum and my sister are incredibly slim me and my dad are overweight. However I agree with you are saying and it's down to education which some parents lack. It's also a generation thing where kids were brought up on processed deep fried crap who in turn bring their children up on. My sister is very strict with what she feeds her children on and they do not have a weight issue. I will be dammed if my children will be overweight I do not want my children to go through the struggles I did as a child nor do I ever want them to have to deal with an eating disorder which I am still dealing with so many years on. I know myself if I cut out alcohol and crisps then I'd loose more weight than I am now but I have lost over a stone so far. I'm quite contented with who I am and my size right now. Sorry if all the above comes over as a rambling mess "well done you for the stone | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. No you wouldn't. You can happily eat thousands of calories in a meal but you wouldn't have enough hours in the day to burn that off. That's utter bollocks Really so you think someone on 5k calories a day is best suited to burning that off through what 6 hours plus cardio a day rather than changing thier diet? Or that the average obese person would even be capable of that level of activity without severe injury? Your seriously advocating for fat loss pure exercise over diet alteration? " No, because that would be as ridiculous as you saying all you need dieting and no exercise. Go away now, you are annoying me. | |||
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"I will probably word this wrong but here goes, i do often wonder about people with children ( and I have none so am aware I am not qualified to comment ). If people can't get to the very best of health for themselves, they must want to do it for their children. To do everything they possibly can to maximise the time with them, to see them grow up and celebrate grandchildren. I think the same on Bareback threads etc etc... Now, I am not saying overweight/barebackers people are BAD parents, I am not saying that... just to minimise all potential risks to their health. My mum brought us up on home cooked fresh meals and fruit and veg. We had acres of land to run about on and I was and still am an active girl. I walk 3 miles a day etc. However as a kid I was overweight and my mum tried everything but I was a secret eater id eat when she was out in the yard etc. I don't blame my parents for being overweight I blame myself. My mum and my sister are incredibly slim me and my dad are overweight. However I agree with you are saying and it's down to education which some parents lack. It's also a generation thing where kids were brought up on processed deep fried crap who in turn bring their children up on. My sister is very strict with what she feeds her children on and they do not have a weight issue. I will be dammed if my children will be overweight I do not want my children to go through the struggles I did as a child nor do I ever want them to have to deal with an eating disorder which I am still dealing with so many years on. I know myself if I cut out alcohol and crisps then I'd loose more weight than I am now but I have lost over a stone so far. I'm quite contented with who I am and my size right now. Sorry if all the above comes over as a rambling mess
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at" What's a kitchen? Lol I only have time to eat one meal a day and that is usually just chicken breast or pork chop and mash if hubby cooks and maybe veggie chilli or salad if I cook - it is all about the foods we eat, but its also about making time to eat at the right times and doing the right amount of movement to go along with it. You can't simply eat less calories and hope to lose weight efficiently - time management is a major factor even in your eating patterns so even if my original point wasn't clear, it is still valid - I would rather spend my little time with my family and making sure they're happy and healthy than worrying about my own next meal (for the record, they have dinner at 5, 2 hours before I get home and I won't eat reheated food lmao) | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at" Weight loss is 80% diet 20% exercise | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. No you wouldn't. You can happily eat thousands of calories in a meal but you wouldn't have enough hours in the day to burn that off. " Your talking bollocks. Steve Redgrave was eating 5000 calories a day when training/in competition. You partake in high intensity activity you can easily burn off thousands of calories a day. | |||
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" Weight loss is 80% diet 20% exercise" This
And I don't believe weighing yourself too often or counting calories is necessarily the answer but a paleo or ketonic "style" diet
works more effectively in the long run.
Going back to the orignal question : Too fat for me is not about BMI (even GPs are moving away from using that as a sole indicator for fitness and health) but about being able to do all the things I want to do without getting out of breath, enjoying my (daily) exercise without thinking of it as a chore and not following any fads really.
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"I will probably word this wrong but here goes, i do often wonder about people with children ( and I have none so am aware I am not qualified to comment ). If people can't get to the very best of health for themselves, they must want to do it for their children. To do everything they possibly can to maximise the time with them, to see them grow up and celebrate grandchildren. I think the same on Bareback threads etc etc... Now, I am not saying overweight/barebackers people are BAD parents, I am not saying that... just to minimise all potential risks to their health. " The same can be said of smokers, drinkers, skiers, divers, motorcycle owners, car drivers, etc etc etc You'd be hard pushed to find parents that never take any risk with their life/health *as she pops another piece of chocolate in her gob* | |||
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"I will probably word this wrong but here goes, i do often wonder about people with children ( and I have none so am aware I am not qualified to comment ). If people can't get to the very best of health for themselves, they must want to do it for their children. To do everything they possibly can to maximise the time with them, to see them grow up and celebrate grandchildren. I think the same on Bareback threads etc etc... Now, I am not saying overweight/barebackers people are BAD parents, I am not saying that... just to minimise all potential risks to their health. The same can be said of smokers, drinkers, skiers, divers, motorcycle owners, car drivers, etc etc etc You'd be hard pushed to find parents that never take any risk with their life/health *as she pops another piece of chocolate in her gob* "of course they do... | |||
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"Can people just debate like adults without telling each other they're talking bollocks "When misinformed people decide to misinform others it can be extremely frustrating, especially when they needlessly dig their heels in when their "facts" are highlinghted to be dubious at best, it can be incredibly frustrating. Apologies for talking bollocks about people talking bollocks  | |||
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"I will probably word this wrong but here goes, i do often wonder about people with children ( and I have none so am aware I am not qualified to comment ). If people can't get to the very best of health for themselves, they must want to do it for their children. To do everything they possibly can to maximise the time with them, to see them grow up and celebrate grandchildren. I think the same on Bareback threads etc etc... Now, I am not saying overweight/barebackers people are BAD parents, I am not saying that... just to minimise all potential risks to their health. " To be fair , having children and grandchildren doesn't necessarily mean you should stop living your life the way you want to live it . Of course it's irresponsible to have kids and then deliberately risk your life , and some would say obesity and bareback may do this . But realistically I for one wouldn't say that an obese parent is doing an injustice to their kids by being fat , nor would I say that about a parent barebacking . If they die from either it's unfortunate for all concerned , but to blame them for taking risks is not really fair . Where do you draw the line ? Not going on planes , driving cars , living in rough housing estates etc..... | |||
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"Bloody Made up Information My hubby has less fat than me (more muscle) but according to bmi charts he has a higher bmi then me??" Thats because BMI isnt a measure of body fat So no, its not made up | |||
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"I will probably word this wrong but here goes, i do often wonder about people with children ( and I have none so am aware I am not qualified to comment ). If people can't get to the very best of health for themselves, they must want to do it for their children. To do everything they possibly can to maximise the time with them, to see them grow up and celebrate grandchildren. I think the same on Bareback threads etc etc... Now, I am not saying overweight/barebackers people are BAD parents, I am not saying that... just to minimise all potential risks to their health. To be fair , having children and grandchildren doesn't necessarily mean you should stop living your life the way you want to live it . Of course it's irresponsible to have kids and then deliberately risk your life , and some would say obesity and bareback may do this . But realistically I for one wouldn't say that an obese parent is doing an injustice to their kids by being fat , nor would I say that about a parent barebacking . If they die from either it's unfortunate for all concerned , but to blame them for taking risks is not really fair . Where do you draw the line ? Not going on planes , driving cars , living in rough housing estates etc..... " cool | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. No you wouldn't. You can happily eat thousands of calories in a meal but you wouldn't have enough hours in the day to burn that off. Your talking bollocks. Steve Redgrave was eating 5000 calories a day when training/in competition. You partake in high intensity activity you can easily burn off thousands of calories a day. " So the average person who consumes 5k calories a day is going to train like steve redgrave are they? No theyre not...and thats the point. Plus, redgrave or someone similar wasnt getting their calories from burgers chips and beer | |||
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"the ones that knock BMI -unless they are top class athletes with very high muscle ratio to fat....ARE usually the ones that do need to lose weight.... I have lost just under 3 stone and you would be surprised how much BMI does give a guide to "hidden" fat - so like I say undless you have a huge muscle bound body then maybe, yes, you should take notice of it... Even many doctors are coming round to the fact that it's a guideline though. My BMI almost qualifies me for a gastric band operation, yet on waist to height ratio I'm perfectly fine. Anyone who has seen me can see that yep I'm overweight but not to the extent of morbid obesity, so clearly something is a little off there. I'm not muscly so it's not that. Don't be so patronising in your assumptions. " Well i think you look dam sexy indeed | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. No you wouldn't. You can happily eat thousands of calories in a meal but you wouldn't have enough hours in the day to burn that off. Your talking bollocks. Steve Redgrave was eating 5000 calories a day when training/in competition. You partake in high intensity activity you can easily burn off thousands of calories a day. " I'm not sure rowing for hours a day is 'easily burning it off' your average joe wouldn't ever be able to do it! | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. No you wouldn't. You can happily eat thousands of calories in a meal but you wouldn't have enough hours in the day to burn that off. Your talking bollocks. Steve Redgrave was eating 5000 calories a day when training/in competition. You partake in high intensity activity you can easily burn off thousands of calories a day. So the average person who consumes 5k calories a day is going to train like steve redgrave are they? No theyre not...and thats the point. Plus, redgrave or someone similar wasnt getting their calories from burgers chips and beer" The point that's being made here is that the average person can eat burgers and drink beer etc without growing obese if they balance their lifestyle with their eating habits and levels of physical activity. But more often they don't, they plough calories down their throats without much consideration for the fact that those calories should be burned off to avoid growing fat.. and those people that do consider it don't always tailor their calorie consuption to avoid growing fat in the first, hence, people get fat. | |||
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"Ive recently gone from a size 32 to a size 18 in 18 months an I eat damn sight more now than I ever used to and I still eat caloirific no no's daily Im no more active than i was at my largest either" Congratulations on your achievement!!! That is AMAZING!!! | |||
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"Ive recently gone from a size 32 to a size 18 in 18 months an I eat damn sight more now than I ever used to and I still eat caloirific no no's daily Im no more active than i was at my largest either Congratulations on your achievement!!! That is AMAZING!!! "Thank you tge right motivation works wonders ive done it to be healthy for my kids, its had no effect on my confidence levels, as ive always been quite accepting of myself regardless of size | |||
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"Does anyone actually really use BMI as an indicator anymore? 90% of the population must be obese according to that outdated rubbish " Exactly - that is why (some) GPs are using it only as one part of an overall assessment. BMI in itself is quite meaningless | |||
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"Body Mass Index combined with Body Fat Percentage gives a fairly accurate indication whether one is fat or obese. BFP calculations require a lot more data than BMI" | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense." If you consume more calories than you can burn off you will gain weight. 1 hour of speed skipping continuously would burn around 800 calories that's the best cardio you can do for burning calories, if you ate like a pig and was eating 5 thousand calories a day would you really be able to 6 hours every day in the gym to not gain anything? | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. If you consume more calories than you can burn off you will gain weight. 1 hour of speed skipping continuously would burn around 800 calories that's the best cardio you can do for burning calories, if you ate like a pig and was eating 5 thousand calories a day would you really be able to 6 hours every day in the gym to not gain anything?" Oh, I didn't know that speed skipping was "the best cardio you can do", thank god you chose to use that 'fact' for the foundation of the point you wanted to make. Isn't it great that you just happened to be right about that? Even after you invented the information to back it up? Please.. tell me more? :P | |||
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. If you consume more calories than you can burn off you will gain weight. 1 hour of speed skipping continuously would burn around 800 calories that's the best cardio you can do for burning calories, if you ate like a pig and was eating 5 thousand calories a day would you really be able to 6 hours every day in the gym to not gain anything? Oh, I didn't know that speed skipping was "the best cardio you can do", thank god you chose to use that 'fact' for the foundation of the point you wanted to make. Isn't it great that you just happened to be right about that? Even after you invented the information to back it up? Please.. tell me more? :P" Very true skipping is lower down the list than swimming, cycling and HIIT yo name a few | |||
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" 1 hour of speed skipping continuously would burn around 800 calories that's the best cardio you can do for burning calories, if you ate like a pig and was eating 5 thousand calories a day would you really be able to 6 hours every day in the gym to not gain anything? Oh, I didn't know that speed skipping was "the best cardio you can do", thank god you chose to use that 'fact' for the foundation of the point you wanted to make. Isn't it great that you just happened to be right about that? Even after you invented the information to back it up? Please.. tell me more? :P" No. I'm guessing wherever you are you're on your own. Go argue with yourself. | |||
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"Very true skipping is lower down the list than swimming, cycling and HIIT yo name a few " Skipping is awesome exercise but I couldn't do it for an hour. | |||
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" Very true skipping is lower down the list than swimming, cycling and HIIT yo name a few " You know HiiT is high intensity interval training right which means it isn't a specific form of cardio it's a method of doing it. Speed skipping burns the most calories. I'll add "in my opinion" to that statement. | |||
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"Very true skipping is lower down the list than swimming, cycling and HIIT yo name a few Skipping is awesome exercise but I couldn't do it for an hour." I know its a very good form cardio its just not the best | |||
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"Very true skipping is lower down the list than swimming, cycling and HIIT yo name a few Skipping is awesome exercise but I couldn't do it for an hour. I know its a very good form cardio its just not the best " I do intervals on an eliptical machine. Skipping with my knees?  | |||
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"Very true skipping is lower down the list than swimming, cycling and HIIT yo name a few Skipping is awesome exercise but I couldn't do it for an hour. I know its a very good form cardio its just not the best I do intervals on an eliptical machine. Skipping with my knees? "I prefer HIT on either cross trainer or treadmill or even with weights - I agree skipping is not the best if you have problems with your knees although otherwise considered a very effective cardio workout. | |||
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"I have always found jogging works best for me with weight loss I suppose we are all different and what works well for one may not be the best for another, when I joined fat camp last year I got a tread mill and did a hour a day and the weight just dropped off " You nailed it - we ARE all different and one size does not fit all. | |||
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" 1 hour of speed skipping continuously would burn around 800 calories that's the best cardio you can do for burning calories, if you ate like a pig and was eating 5 thousand calories a day would you really be able to 6 hours every day in the gym to not gain anything? Oh, I didn't know that speed skipping was "the best cardio you can do", thank god you chose to use that 'fact' for the foundation of the point you wanted to make. Isn't it great that you just happened to be right about that? Even after you invented the information to back it up? Please.. tell me more? :P No. I'm guessing wherever you are you're on your own. Go argue with yourself. " Due to my fantastic sarcastic correctness.. I wouldn't reply to me either.. so I don't blame you
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.. My BMI is 31 which makes me obese, I'm in no way slim but I like to think I'm not obese, just sturdy! BMI is not a great measure. Bmi is a reasonable measure for the average couch potato that makes up most of this country. It does however fall down when it comes to active healthy people with muscle. Where because it works off total body mass not lean or fat body mass it judges them as fat. But unless you happen to be a pretty competent athlete/body builder it's accurate" | |||
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" Very true skipping is lower down the list than swimming, cycling and HIIT yo name a few You know HiiT is high intensity interval training right which means it isn't a specific form of cardio it's a method of doing it. Speed skipping burns the most calories. I'll add "in my opinion" to that statement. " Yes I know what HIIT is and its very prominately proven to be a better form (therefore method) of cardio than most other forms of cardio. Even when only done for 20 mins 3 times a week. That been said In my opinion.id personally choose swimming. Its not only good cardio but works/tones every muscle in the body also has a relaxing element where you can shut off from the world and be alone in your thoughts. | |||
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"Does anyone actually really use BMI as an indicator anymore? 90% of the population must be obese according to that outdated rubbish " Hmmm interesting that you say that... | |||
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), but I don't want to. I'm on a mission to drop a few more dress sizes but has nothing to do with anybody else, and certainly isn't due to being unhappy or unhealthy!
Of course there are situations of the extreme either way (big and small) but it's no one else's business but the person themselves.
Embrace, the world is full of beauty of every size, shape and colour! If it's not what you're attracted to - look away and make way for someone that is. Go find what attracts you!
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"The BMI of anyone that is BBW is going to be obese or even morbidly obese in some cases...guess they don't think about their future health though...the only person that can change it is the person concerned...but when you have websites like this promoting big being beautiful IMO something is wrong.. My BMI is 31 which makes me obese, I'm in no way slim but I like to think I'm not obese, just sturdy! BMI is not a great measure. Bmi is a reasonable measure for the average couch potato that makes up most of this country. It does however fall down when it comes to active healthy people with muscle. Where because it works off total body mass not lean or fat body mass it judges them as fat. But unless you happen to be a pretty competent athlete/body builder it's accurate Oh well I'm clinically obese after all then. Best get back in my tank
Or make some very minor changes to your life to result in some long term lasting benefits that have nothing to do with appearance?
Until recently my cholesterol was dangerously high, changes to diet and now it's back well within healthy limits.
It wasn't a problem for me before the test I never knew it was elevated but a small change now meant that when I'm older there isn't going to be a lot of long term damage done."My blood pressure, cholesterol and blood sugar/insulin levels have all been tested recently and are within the ideal ranges so I think I'm doing alright doing what I'm doing. I AM trying to lose weight for my own reasons, but when I've lost what I want to, I will still be in an overweight to obese BMI range, which I was last time I was a size 14. At 5'10 I'm not going to beat myself up about my BMI if I come out with ideal stats on every other measure. That's all I'm saying - that BMI should be regarded as just one of a suite of indicators (e.g. body fat %, blood pressure, cholesterol, waist to height ratio) not the be-all and end-all that some take it to be. | |||
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"Does anyone actually really use BMI as an indicator anymore? 90% of the population must be obese according to that outdated rubbish Hmmm interesting that you say that... BMI does work for most of us, there are some that it don't, like body builder etc as we know But for most of us it does" It's not an unhealthy guideline really. Obesity is such a big deal for society too, really should be addressed more inclusively to help future generations. I think too fat is when I look at someone and they stand out for their size, in my eyes. Not in a judgement sense at all, more like I'm very open minded, I'm just ambitious for others and if they're clearly very unhealthy then it's something they need help with, in my opinion. I've helped a few people lose weight, often it's education or removing barriers. But the help has to start from themselves clearly. | |||
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" Very true skipping is lower down the list than swimming, cycling and HIIT yo name a few You know HiiT is high intensity interval training right which means it isn't a specific form of cardio it's a method of doing it. Speed skipping burns the most calories. I'll add "in my opinion" to that statement. "
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"Does anyone actually really use BMI as an indicator anymore? 90% of the population must be obese according to that outdated rubbish At Hmmm interesting that you say that... BMI does work for most of us, there are some that it don't, like body builder etc as we know But for most of us it does It's not an unhealthy guideline really. Obesity is such a big deal for society too, really should be addressed more inclusively to help future generations. I think too fat is when I look at someone and they stand out for their size, in my eyes. Not in a judgement sense at all, more like I'm very open minded, I'm just ambitious for others and if they're clearly very unhealthy then it's something they need help with, in my opinion. I've helped a few people lose weight, often it's education or removing barriers. But the help has to start from themselves clearly." some people don't want to hear it though hence the rise in obesity and plus sizes. | |||
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"Does anyone actually really use BMI as an indicator anymore? 90% of the population must be obese according to that outdated rubbish At Hmmm interesting that you say that... BMI does work for most of us, there are some that it don't, like body builder etc as we know But for most of us it does It's not an unhealthy guideline really. Obesity is such a big deal for society too, really should be addressed more inclusively to help future generations. I think too fat is when I look at someone and they stand out for their size, in my eyes. Not in a judgement sense at all, more like I'm very open minded, I'm just ambitious for others and if they're clearly very unhealthy then it's something they need help with, in my opinion. I've helped a few people lose weight, often it's education or removing barriers. But the help has to start from themselves clearly. some people don't want to hear it though hence the rise in obesity and plus sizes. "Simply this and they wont change untill they decide to and gain the right motivation/mind set | |||
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"Does anyone actually really use BMI as an indicator anymore? 90% of the population must be obese according to that outdated rubbish At Hmmm interesting that you say that... BMI does work for most of us, there are some that it don't, like body builder etc as we know But for most of us it does It's not an unhealthy guideline really. Obesity is such a big deal for society too, really should be addressed more inclusively to help future generations. I think too fat is when I look at someone and they stand out for their size, in my eyes. Not in a judgement sense at all, more like I'm very open minded, I'm just ambitious for others and if they're clearly very unhealthy then it's something they need help with, in my opinion. I've helped a few people lose weight, often it's education or removing barriers. But the help has to start from themselves clearly. some people don't want to hear it though hence the rise in obesity and plus sizes. "Yeah for sure, it's interesting as a problem - not something that is as easily managed as other contemporary issues out there. | |||
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" Very true skipping is lower down the list than swimming, cycling and HIIT yo name a few You know HiiT is high intensity interval training right which means it isn't a specific form of cardio it's a method of doing it. Speed skipping burns the most calories. I'll add "in my opinion" to that statement. Yes I know what HIIT is and its very prominately proven to be a better form (therefore method) of cardio than most other forms of cardio. Even when only done for 20 mins 3 times a week. That been said In my opinion.id personally choose swimming. Its not only good cardio but works/tones every muscle in the body also has a relaxing element where you can shut off from the world and be alone in your thoughts." Swimming is great I agree but back to my point which was speed skipping being the best method of cardio, and by best I mean burning the most calories in the fastest possible way. Ask any boxer, kick boxer or anyone with a martial arts background, ask anyone that's had to wear an elevation mask to bed for half of their life the importance of being able to skip continuously till you've dropped enough lbs for a belt or a fight. If running or swimming or any other form of cardio was better for dropping lbs fast then I'm sure that would have been used instead of skipping. Yes I'm tutting and shaking my head at myself for being so pedantic! | |||
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" Very true skipping is lower down the list than swimming, cycling and HIIT yo name a few You know HiiT is high intensity interval training right which means it isn't a specific form of cardio it's a method of doing it. Speed skipping burns the most calories. I'll add "in my opinion" to that statement. Yes I know what HIIT is and its very prominately proven to be a better form (therefore method) of cardio than most other forms of cardio. Even when only done for 20 mins 3 times a week. That been said In my opinion.id personally choose swimming. Its not only good cardio but works/tones every muscle in the body also has a relaxing element where you can shut off from the world and be alone in your thoughts. Swimming is great I agree but back to my point which was speed skipping being the best method of cardio, and by best I mean burning the most calories in the fastest possible way. Ask any boxer, kick boxer or anyone with a martial arts background, ask anyone that's had to wear an elevation mask to bed for half of their life the importance of being able to skip continuously till you've dropped enough lbs for a belt or a fight. If running or swimming or any other form of cardio was better for dropping lbs fast then I'm sure that would have been used instead of skipping. Yes I'm tutting and shaking my head at myself for being so pedantic!" I am a member of what you might call a typical "blokes" gym ie there are mainly body builders who (mainly) use skipping to do their cardio | |||
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"What grinds my gears is the preaching about weight and what you must conform too and what size you must be and how you have to do this...the old saying you tell someone not to do stuff they will go out of their way to do it... So how does that _iew hold when it is fat parents with very fat kids, often the case. Have the kids chosen it for themselves or had it foistered on them by parents. I tend to fall into the "abuse" camp on this issue." I'd say it's a lack of education around food and what Is good food and what is bad food rather than abuse | |||
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"What grinds my gears is the preaching about weight and what you must conform too and what size you must be and how you have to do this...the old saying you tell someone not to do stuff they will go out of their way to do it... So how does that _iew hold when it is fat parents with very fat kids, often the case. Have the kids chosen it for themselves or had it foistered on them by parents. I tend to fall into the "abuse" camp on this issue." Im now fat (slimmer than i was) but my kids arent. I aim to give them an education on healthy eating I didnt get from my fat parents, so by encouraging (aka fostering it into) them to eat a healthy life style am I abusive by your standards? | |||
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"Does anyone actually really use BMI as an indicator anymore? 90% of the population must be obese according to that outdated rubbish At Hmmm interesting that you say that... BMI does work for most of us, there are some that it don't, like body builder etc as we know But for most of us it does It's not an unhealthy guideline really. Obesity is such a big deal for society too, really should be addressed more inclusively to help future generations. I think too fat is when I look at someone and they stand out for their size, in my eyes. Not in a judgement sense at all, more like I'm very open minded, I'm just ambitious for others and if they're clearly very unhealthy then it's something they need help with, in my opinion. I've helped a few people lose weight, often it's education or removing barriers. But the help has to start from themselves clearly. some people don't want to hear it though hence the rise in obesity and plus sizes.
Yeah for sure, it's interesting as a problem - not something that is as easily managed as other contemporary issues out there. "The thing is not everybody finds it that easy to diet even when they really want to I suffered with CED for years I have always had a really unhealthy relationship with food, the only way I could loose weight was laxative and fingers down the throat, and that's not something I am proud of, I had a mental compultion to eat but then I'd get so angry with myself I'd force myself to be sick, it really was the only way my brain could cope with weight loss, though I do longer go to such extremes I still have a unhealthy relationship with food, I binge eat then starve myself, my weight is up and down in unhealthy measures, every time you see me i will be a different dress size I have been known to go from a size 20 to a size 12 upto a size 16 in about 4 month, for some its really not as easy as saying just go on a diet, yeah I have lost weight but if you knew what I've put my body through to do it you have me sectioned and I always know it will go back on and in a few month I'd be knocking myself out to loose it again
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"I'm "too fat" but I'm healthy enough to play football with the kids and never miss a day of work. Two pregnancies with perfect glucose and blood pressure results the whole way through - maybe I'm just lucky and taking advantage of being young but I'll lose weight when I have nothing better to do, but right now I'd rather spend time with my family than hit the gym considering I only get 2 days a week with the kids and an hour or two each evening before bed time! Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym. Trying to lose weight through gym work instead of through altering your food is something no one will succeed at That is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I've ever read.. if I ate like a pig for 6 months and conditioned my body to be able to handle a gym session of some sort every day of the week for the same 6 months, allowing the odd rest day of course, I'd still be able to control my weight. Sweeping generalisations like your statement above should be avoided, or else you run the risk of misinforming those that are already not informed enough to question such nonsense. If you consume more calories than you can burn off you will gain weight. 1 hour of speed skipping continuously would burn around 800 calories that's the best cardio you can do for burning calories, if you ate like a pig and was eating 5 thousand calories a day would you really be able to 6 hours every day in the gym to not gain anything? Oh, I didn't know that speed skipping was "the best cardio you can do", thank god you chose to use that 'fact' for the foundation of the point you wanted to make. Isn't it great that you just happened to be right about that? Even after you invented the information to back it up? Please.. tell me more? :P" Gosh op! You really do like to patronise people who are simply doing as you asked - contributing to your thread and expressing an opinion! Perhaps you should stop asking for other's opinions when you're quite clearly the font of all knowledge yourself?? | |||
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"What grinds my gears is the preaching about weight and what you must conform too and what size you must be and how you have to do this...the old saying you tell someone not to do stuff they will go out of their way to do it... So how does that _iew hold when it is fat parents with very fat kids, often the case. Have the kids chosen it for themselves or had it foistered on them by parents. I tend to fall into the "abuse" camp on this issue. Im now fat (slimmer than i was) but my kids arent. I aim to give them an education on healthy eating I didnt get from my fat parents, so by encouraging (aka fostering it into) them to eat a healthy life style am I abusive by your standards? " If your kids are genuinely not fat, you feed them good food and encourage them to continue to eat and in time prepare good food for themselves, then obviously no, that is the polar opposite of abuse. Spread the word, not the jam. | |||
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"I do have a martial arts background was never encouraged to skip for cardio only to do a form of cardio that best suited me, at the time i was in competitions that used to be jogging." You must have been extremely lucky then to have always been evenly matched for your weight class whenever you've had a fight or gone for a belt. I'm not saying the skipping was the only method of cardio, pad and bag work would also make up my cardio, my main point I'm trying to make is to burn the most calories in the fastest way, I'm talking days and even hours sometimes, speed skipping is the best for that. | |||
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