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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"scotish communist that wanted Scotland to be independent but now wants to be a Westminster mp
but yeah she needs subtitles"
Her point is valid. She is not standing for Westmister but the SNP already have seats in Westminster and will do after the election. As part of the UK they have a say!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Will be a bit hard for her to become a Westminster MP when
1) she is first minister of Scotland and a MSP
2) she isn't standing for Westminster
And shh whisper it quietly she actually still wants independence |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there."
Her friend Wee 'Eck WILL be the next PM. Labour with biggest party (perhaps) but Wee 'Eck will be running the show....have no doubt' |
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By *umourCouple
over a year ago
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
Based on this debate, she is head and shoulders above the others."
Firstly I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her and secondly, she can say what she likes, she will never govern the UK in any real sense of the word! Same as all the small partys |
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there."
5 million should not have the ability to hold 60 million to ransom, not necessarily her fault but she's certainly taking advantage of her position,I bet Cameron wishes he didn't push so hard for a no vote ! |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
Based on this debate, she is head and shoulders above the others.
Firstly I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her and secondly, she can say what she likes, she will never govern the UK in any real sense of the word! Same as all the small partys"
So you base your opinion on blind prejudice, then. Smart thinking. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
5 million should not have the ability to hold 60 million to ransom, not necessarily her fault but she's certainly taking advantage of her position,I bet Cameron wishes he didn't push so hard for a no vote !"
What is this ransom you are talking of? Does it exist in reality at all? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
5 million should not have the ability to hold 60 million to ransom, not necessarily her fault but she's certainly taking advantage of her position,I bet Cameron wishes he didn't push so hard for a no vote !"
I suspect it is only a matter of time before Sturgeon and the SNP get their wish for independence. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
5 million should not have the ability to hold 60 million to ransom, not necessarily her fault but she's certainly taking advantage of her position,I bet Cameron wishes he didn't push so hard for a no vote !
I suspect it is only a matter of time before Sturgeon and the SNP get their wish for independence."
aye well them and the rest of the NATS can go live on a wee island and be as independent as they like |
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I would like to know, as the leader of a major political party if she takes it up the bum. I think it is a fair and reasonable question as we deserve to know if someone who may have a major role in the future of the country likes it up her back doors. ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago
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"I would like to know, as the leader of a major political party if she takes it up the bum. I think it is a fair and reasonable question as we deserve to know if someone who may have a major role in the future of the country likes it up her back doors. "
of course she does ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm going to have to spank your sexist bottom Ben!
Not being sexist.... more accentist "
Can only assume your fishing to get abuse from us scots, not only did most people understand Her- Id imagine a lot of the English 'left' out there would have enjoyed her ideas an wish miliband was saying them returning labour back to their roots.
Anyway sorry I sidetracked a thread about mocking accents....carry on...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm going to have to spank your sexist bottom Ben!
Not being sexist.... more accentist
Can only assume your fishing to get abuse from us scots, not only did most people understand Her- Id imagine a lot of the English 'left' out there would have enjoyed her ideas an wish miliband was saying them returning labour back to their roots.
Anyway sorry I sidetracked a thread about mocking accents....carry on...
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Yes, I think there was more than a hint
of jealousy in the above I cant imagine how anyone couldn't see that she looked head & shoulders above the rest as a credible leader!
I've been listening to her over the months & I really like her politics, she's like a proper Labour party leader, not the BS that we've had for about 4 decades now, - very impressive! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
5 million should not have the ability to hold 60 million to ransom, not necessarily her fault but she's certainly taking advantage of her position,I bet Cameron wishes he didn't push so hard for a no vote !"
You don't really get politics do you.
Think Cameron wants to go down in history as the guy who lost the United kingdom? Think the queen would want to see his fat pasty face ever again if that happened?
Considering the current govt was brought to you by the lib dems, minority parties are the present + the future.
Tories -screwing the poor, shit economy. Did nothing to restore the free market but gave £ billions in QE to the benefit scrounging banks. Build roads/airports/hospitals- nah. Address the blatant monopolies in eg mobile phones-nah. sell Royal Mail for approx £1billion less than market cap - yeah! Aka stealing from taxpayers. Retrospective legislation-a new low..
Labour- absolute cunts letting millions of foreign fuckers in. + they're breeding fast.
Lib dems, would sell their granny for a sniff of office. Hey kids how's the student loan? Cable fronting up the Royal Mail fraud?
Ukip or snp will call the shots next time - take your pick. The right wing is back.
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over a year ago
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"scotish communist that wanted Scotland to be independent but now wants to be a Westminster mp
but yeah she needs subtitles
Her point is valid. She is not standing for Westmister but the SNP already have seats in Westminster and will do after the election. As part of the UK they have a say!
As long as they have no say in England we will be ok
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"scotish communist that wanted Scotland to be independent but now wants to be a Westminster mp
but yeah she needs subtitles
Her point is valid. She is not standing for Westmister but the SNP already have seats in Westminster and will do after the election. As part of the UK they have a say!
As long as they have no say in England we will be ok
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That's the very thing that I'm hoping for, - & getting rid of that bastion of anti-democracy, The House Of 'lords' would be an awesome start to her political career as deputy PM that would favour both England AND Scotland & all!
.......& out the peodos amongst them too, hopefully!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I like her. She gets a lot of stick. She knows her stuff and isn't scared to take on the big boys. I also understand her perfectly.
As a Scot I'm now in the minority of folk here that don't really take an active interest in politics. However as a woman she is inspiring. Regardless of people's other _iews of her. |
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By *umourCouple
over a year ago
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
Based on this debate, she is head and shoulders above the others.
Firstly I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her and secondly, she can say what she likes, she will never govern the UK in any real sense of the word! Same as all the small partys
So you base your opinion on blind prejudice, then. Smart thinking."
Not at all, I base my opinion on what I have seen and read about her and her clear stated aims to hold the rest of the UK to ransom to get what she wants! That is her price and if Labour are closest to the winning line, you watch Millibland get her on board despite whet he has said!
Anyone who thinks that the SNP holding the balance of power and effectively ruling the UK is good is delusional! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sturgeon is the worst kind of politician ( are there really shades of worse, worser and worsest?)
She stood on a single platform, Independence for Scotland and the electorate emphatically said no.
Is she representing the electorate?
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Sturgeon is the worst kind of politician ( are there really shades of worse, worser and worsest?)
She stood on a single platform, Independence for Scotland and the electorate emphatically said no.
Is she representing the electorate?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What would you replace the house of lords with ?
A Travelodge.
No, the food is much better than Travelodge. Malmaison perhaps?
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Ok, but I hope it's better than the one in Belfast. Wasn't impressed! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"What would you replace the house of lords with ?
A Travelodge.
No, the food is much better than Travelodge. Malmaison perhaps?
Ok, but I hope it's better than the one in Belfast. Wasn't impressed!"
I haven't been to that one. I did have the best French Martini ever in Belfast though. That was at the Merchant Hotel. I plan to stay there next time I go just to have the Martini's on tap. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What would you replace the house of lords with ?
A Travelodge.
No, the food is much better than Travelodge. Malmaison perhaps?
Ok, but I hope it's better than the one in Belfast. Wasn't impressed!
I haven't been to that one. I did have the best French Martini ever in Belfast though. That was at the Merchant Hotel. I plan to stay there next time I go just to have the Martini's on tap. "
Never had the martini, but I've had a few gallon of Guinness! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
5 million should not have the ability to hold 60 million to ransom, not necessarily her fault but she's certainly taking advantage of her position,I bet Cameron wishes he didn't push so hard for a no vote !"
Problem with this statement is that 60 million people don't vote. One of the biggest problems in this country is that a lot of people cannot be bothered to get off their arses and go and vote. ![](/icons/s/twisted.gif) |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
5 million should not have the ability to hold 60 million to ransom, not necessarily her fault but she's certainly taking advantage of her position,I bet Cameron wishes he didn't push so hard for a no vote !
Problem with this statement is that 60 million people don't vote. One of the biggest problems in this country is that a lot of people cannot be bothered to get off their arses and go and vote. "
The turnout in 2010 was just under 30 million. |
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By *immy2xMan
over a year ago
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As a scot. We have been held to tandom by the 60 million forever. England has allways called the shots for the uk.
Now there is a scottish party a very viable scottish party if a very well liked leader, and what happens? All the english bile comes out about how its do terrible the svots calling the shots in england.
Ohh the irony, how dare they scots tell us what to do, were the ones that yell them instead and they better well eat it up damn hahgus munchers.
The snp are not anti english at all. They are anti tbe set up we have now which is a disaster. I wish the english would go for their independence and throw the lot of them out of power as many dcots want.
The referendum was also lost because every machination of the establishment was put into over drive with the threat of a break ip of the uk. But scots now understand who the enemies are they all came out and showed their hand. Its actually a miru le 45% actually voted yes after what the scots were subject too. You really haf to be here to see it. They terrified the populanc with lies anout pensions and the nhs to get their own way and many believe jt. They promised more powers then renegaded on it.
This is why after the referendum scotland has rose ip behind the snp. Who incidently are now the third biggest party membership in the uk ahead if the uk wide lib dems and inly a few 1000s behind the tories. The people will not be fooled again.
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By *illdeeCouple
over a year ago
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"scotish communist that wanted Scotland to be independent but now wants to be a Westminster mp
but yeah she needs subtitles"
She isn't standing as a candidate. Just one of the inaccuracies in your post. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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hello Juimmy,
As a scot.
I don't understand what you are complaining of, there are plenty of people in England, Wales and Northern Ireland who are not happy with the current or earlier governments, that's how it works. You are not being singled out or being downtrodden any more than than other sections of the U.K.. You do get more government money per head than England for instance.
I would suggest that rather than expecting a government to improve your life that you use a bit of initiative and look to how you can improve your current situation.
Alec
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Sturgeon story today is her denying she had said she would prefer Cameron as PM.
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All you've done is re-told a news story...if your gonna leave a comment on here...comment on it! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"The Sturgeon story today is her denying she had said she would prefer Cameron as PM.
All you've done is re-told a news story...if your gonna leave a comment on here...comment on it!"
Why?
The other news story is that the Mail headline is that she's the most dangerous woman in Britain.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Sturgeon story today is her denying she had said she would prefer Cameron as PM.
All you've done is re-told a news story...if your gonna leave a comment on here...comment on it!
Why?
The other news story is that the Mail headline is that she's the most dangerous woman in Britain.
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I'm not sure you understand my point...
I'm saying everyone can read the news, what would be interesting to know is your opinion on the new 'revelation' not just you re-reporting something, that's all. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"The Sturgeon story today is her denying she had said she would prefer Cameron as PM.
All you've done is re-told a news story...if your gonna leave a comment on here...comment on it!
Why?
The other news story is that the Mail headline is that she's the most dangerous woman in Britain.
I'm not sure you understand my point...
I'm saying everyone can read the news, what would be interesting to know is your opinion on the new 'revelation' not just you re-reporting something, that's all."
I understood.
My posting the news stories is a comment on how the press present us the political stories in this election campaign. The front page given to these stories is a comment.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think she could be useful for mixing it up.
But the left frustrate me, lets forget the Tories they only want the support of enough to get elected, enough police and to throw a few scraps at the plebs to stop them slitting their throats other than that we can all go to hell, they've given up on Britain and just want to pick over the carcass.
The left they go on and on about the public services, NHS as if that will solve our economic problem, the economic problem is we cannot afford them, we can aspire but as a nation at the moment we cannot afford the standard we wish. I wish they'd concentrate on how we are going to afford them, kick starting our manufacturing industry through massive emphasise on science, math and engineering training and free, we still have some very talented people that have to go abroad for funding as the banks want their return yesterday, target government loans at these for a share of the equity the Germans and the Japanese have been doing that for years and its laughable to suggest that our economy is anywhere near theirs. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
she may have done well in the uk day.... but in the last 2 nights in the scottish leaders debates, my god is she taking a caning.....
the more i hear jim murphy, the more i like him.... |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"she may have done well in the uk day.... but in the last 2 nights in the scottish leaders debates, my god is she taking a caning.....
the more i hear jim murphy, the more i like him...."
100% agreed. Jim's a b_nny fechter. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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Jim Murphy cant answer i question its nice and simple Labour keep saying they dont want Cameron in power Nicola is asking Labour to do a deal by deal to lock Cameron out but they cant answer it red tories they really are |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As a scot. We have been held to tandom by the 60 million forever. England has allways called the shots for the uk.
Now there is a scottish party a very viable scottish party if a very well liked leader, and what happens? All the english bile comes out about how its do terrible the svots calling the shots in england.
Ohh the irony, how dare they scots tell us what to do, were the ones that yell them instead and they better well eat it up damn hahgus munchers.
The snp are not anti english at all. They are anti tbe set up we have now which is a disaster. I wish the english would go for their independence and throw the lot of them out of power as many dcots want.
The referendum was also lost because every machination of the establishment was put into over drive with the threat of a break ip of the uk. But scots now understand who the enemies are they all came out and showed their hand. Its actually a miru le 45% actually voted yes after what the scots were subject too. You really haf to be here to see it. They terrified the populanc with lies anout pensions and the nhs to get their own way and many believe jt. They promised more powers then renegaded on it.
This is why after the referendum scotland has rose ip behind the snp. Who incidently are now the third biggest party membership in the uk ahead if the uk wide lib dems and inly a few 1000s behind the tories. The people will not be fooled again.
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The yes vote lost because it was fuelled by lies and had no real substance what so ever.
Trying to claim that Scotland would be a wealthy country through its oil... The oil has a limited time left due to the UK not thinking to store reserves... And SNP rattling on about the Norwegians as a role model which simply don't add up as they have vast reserves and were building them for a very long time.. Oh and no mention to the Scottish electorate of the extortionate taxes the Norwegians pay.
Automatic joining to the pound? Really not plausible due to the instability the Scottish pound would become aka the next Greek economy anyone?
Also Europe has already told Scotland they would not get automatic entry and could be waiting up to ten years for membership if at all especially as Spain for one would never allow it as they fear it would give the Catalans even more impetus in their fight for independence.
Although she does have an amazing way of talking to people, as a speaker she is superb, very probably the best in British politics and her conviction no matter how misplaced is impressive. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"She does not give a damn about Scotland she is a power crazy lunatic,a lot of polititions are,but she is the worst kind evil."
Gives more of a damn than the tories and red tories i think more than 100,000 people joining SNP speaks for itself |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"She does not give a damn about Scotland she is a power crazy lunatic,a lot of polititions are,but she is the worst kind evil.
Gives more of a damn than the tories and red tories i think more than 100,000 people joining SNP speaks for itself "
see... its red tories this and that.... as much as people north of the border like to blame everything on all things "westminster".... you have had a parliament of your own for the last 20 years... which has been spending all the money on a local basis (and under the barnett formula.. at a higher budget per head than the rest of us do!)
now nicola wants full fiscal automony... which even independent ecomonists and financial people have said would cost scotland up to 8.5 billion pound....
bearing in mind all the snp's figures for spend were based on oil being 113 dollars a barrel, and its now just under 60.... how screwed would scotland have been?
you wouldn't see a turkey sign up for xmas... so is the principle worth all those added cuts you would have to put up with? |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"She does not give a damn about Scotland she is a power crazy lunatic,a lot of polititions are,but she is the worst kind evil.
Gives more of a damn than the tories and red tories i think more than 100,000 people joining SNP speaks for itself "
The new members were already SNP supporters, the same ones heavily defeated in the Referendum.
The cheapskates simply took advantage of the £1.00 to join special offer. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"She does not give a damn about Scotland she is a power crazy lunatic,a lot of polititions are,but she is the worst kind evil.
Gives more of a damn than the tories and red tories i think more than 100,000 people joining SNP speaks for itself
see... its red tories this and that.... as much as people north of the border like to blame everything on all things "westminster".... you have had a parliament of your own for the last 20 years... which has been spending all the money on a local basis (and under the barnett formula.. at a higher budget per head than the rest of us do!)
now nicola wants full fiscal automony... which even independent ecomonists and financial people have said would cost scotland up to 8.5 billion pound....
bearing in mind all the snp's figures for spend were based on oil being 113 dollars a barrel, and its now just under 60.... how screwed would scotland have been?
you wouldn't see a turkey sign up for xmas... so is the principle worth all those added cuts you would have to put up with?"
Well to be honest for the last 30 + years Scotland has voted Labour and end up getting the Tories so we never get a say. Thats why we want change down in westminster to have our say since the uk wanted us to stay we have that right. |
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By *immy2xMan
over a year ago
aberdeen/inverness/ highlands |
Oil is only 20% of scotlands gdp. Why do people keep thinking were a one trick pony?
I allways realise how little most people south of the border know about scotland. Very little.
And the anti scottish racism is astounding. Derogatory and nasty. If we are an equal partnership then scotland has the same tight to meddle in englands affairs as england do in scotlands.so many english on tv lately and elsewhere are horrified by the fact the scottish people might have a real say in british politics instead of a side show with the pretense of a partnership.
They dont like it up em |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
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Well to be honest for the last 30 + years Scotland has voted Labour and end up getting the Tories so we never get a say. Thats why we want change down in westminster to have our say since the uk wanted us to stay we have that right. "
.. so it only counts when you don't get the one you voted for..... okay!!!
so what about when scotland voted labour... and labour won.... whats the excuse then....
what about those people who voted labour in the scottish elections and ended up with an SNP government... do they get to gripe as well? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Oil is only 20% of scotlands gdp. Why do people keep thinking were a one trick pony?
I allways realise how little most people south of the border know about scotland. Very little.
And the anti scottish racism is astounding. Derogatory and nasty. If we are an equal partnership then scotland has the same tight to meddle in englands affairs as england do in scotlands.so many english on tv lately and elsewhere are horrified by the fact the scottish people might have a real say in british politics instead of a side show with the pretense of a partnership.
They dont like it up em "
but here is the kicker which you are not going to like.... other than defence, foreign policy, and general taxation (and even then the scottish government if they pleased could raise drop income tax is scotland by up to 3p either way) the trust is that everything else on scotland is decided in a little place called holyrood....
the english dont have say on how many is spent in scotland and on what... the scottish parliament does all that!!!! |
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By *immy2xMan
over a year ago
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Fabio that is called the west lothian question up here.
This is why scotland for everyones sake should have become independent, so should england and wales and northern ireland.
It makes so much sense to run our own affairs but also have a parliment to discuss and impliment common strategies for all our mutual good. I would even say the tepublic of ireland should be in this as well. Run a bit like the european parliment but for the independent nations of the british isles.
This idea is infa t what would have surely happened on a yes vote for scotland, yet the very things this british parliment would have solved is what the establishment used against the scots to achomplish a no vote,its actually amazing 45% even voted yes when every single paper and media outlet were pushing for a no vote, they threw everything at it and scared the hell out of ezpecially the old folk and those that reciece there pay from the public purse, near everyone else vote yes.
Engkand should be demanding their independence too, the obviously are not to happy with the union either. And there definetly not happy with how the 2 parties just play ping pong with their vote for ever and ever. Time for change. The scots are truly rejuvinated now, the henje is out the bottle and is not gonna go back in, and quite frankly the 2 main parties are shitting it.
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"The woman is a demented power hungry loon ,who should never be taken anything other than very seriously....you english people are very lucky you have only seen the smiley Nicola........."
They can probably get First Minister's Question on the BBC Parliament channel - where the mask often slips. |
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over a year ago
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"The woman is a demented power hungry loon ,who should never be taken anything other than very seriously....you english people are very lucky you have only seen the smiley Nicola........."
That's not a problem, we need some people to stir it up.
People go on about stability, we've had it for 40 years and look where its got us.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm going to have to spank your sexist bottom Ben!
Not being sexist.... more accentist
Can only assume your fishing to get abuse from us scots, not only did most people understand Her- Id imagine a lot of the English 'left' out there would have enjoyed her ideas an wish miliband was saying them returning labour back to their roots.
Anyway sorry I sidetracked a thread about mocking accents....carry on...
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I fully understood her. Any Scot wanting independence will love her. Any English person would be scared shitless by her n wee eck... Because if labour are in with a chance of forming a government of any kind then those two head cases will be running the entire UK for the benefit of the scots.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" near everyone else vote yes.
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Jimmy,
if i remember right, out of all the constituencies across all of scotland, only 3 out of about 50 voted for yes.
all the other constituencies voted no |
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"She a I lovely woman met her a few moths back, very down to earth, x"
Educated in a comprehensive school not a private old boys network school...
She is trying to put ppl first not herself she is speaking sense
In the debates I have seen she is well researched, done by herself not an army of spin doctors and researchers infact in the first debate all the women came across well and stood out the men were just massaging their own egos and talking to camera too much ![](/icons/s/2/halo.gif) |
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"She a I lovely woman met her a few moths back, very down to earth, x
Educated in a comprehensive school not a private old boys network school...
She is trying to put ppl first not herself she is speaking sense
In the debates I have seen she is well researched, done by herself not an army of spin doctors and researchers infact in the first debate all the women came across well and stood out the men were just massaging their own egos and talking to camera too much "
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"She a I lovely woman met her a few moths back, very down to earth, x
Educated in a comprehensive school not a private old boys network school...
She is trying to put ppl first not herself she is speaking sense
In the debates I have seen she is well researched, done by herself not an army of spin doctors and researchers infact in the first debate all the women came across well and stood out the men were just massaging their own egos and talking to camera too much "
I didn't know Scotland had comprehensive schools. Greenwood is just an ordinary secondary. |
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"I'm going to have to spank your sexist bottom Ben!
Not being sexist.... more accentist
Can only assume your fishing to get abuse from us scots, not only did most people understand Her- Id imagine a lot of the English 'left' out there would have enjoyed her ideas an wish miliband was saying them returning labour back to their roots.
Anyway sorry I sidetracked a thread about mocking accents....carry on...
I fully understood her. Any Scot wanting independence will love her. Any English person would be scared shitless by her n wee eck... Because if labour are in with a chance of forming a government of any kind then those two head cases will be running the entire UK for the benefit of the scots...."
If ppl would only actually listen to them it's about Westminster and not about scots verses English and putting politics back to the ppl ..... Making our votes count again all politician have had a ball with out being questioned to heavily about the where hell is our money actually going how a politician can get 11% pay rises when most of the country is on its knees, how politicians can have all these expenses etc etc it's time to wake up
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"She a I lovely woman met her a few moths back, very down to earth, x
Educated in a comprehensive school not a private old boys network school...
She is trying to put ppl first not herself she is speaking sense
In the debates I have seen she is well researched, done by herself not an army of spin doctors and researchers infact in the first debate all the women came across well and stood out the men were just massaging their own egos and talking to camera too much
I didn't know Scotland had comprehensive schools. Greenwood is just an ordinary secondary."
Pedantic shmantic, thank you for correcting. How an ever an ordinary school and not privately educated is the main point
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"She a I lovely woman met her a few moths back, very down to earth, x
Educated in a comprehensive school not a private old boys network school...
She is trying to put ppl first not herself she is speaking sense
In the debates I have seen she is well researched, done by herself not an army of spin doctors and researchers infact in the first debate all the women came across well and stood out the men were just massaging their own egos and talking to camera too much
westminster need more women like her the rest are out to scare people and whoever shouts loudest wins instead of making a difference to the way people live"
Agree, I think its about time the north, Wales and Scotland stop whining and do something.
The south are so far up their own ass and in debt to realise what shit the Tories have landed them in, forget new Labour, they were the same thing. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"If ppl would only actually listen to them it's about Westminster and not about scots verses English and putting politics back to the ppl .....
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but again.... decision at a local level are made by scots at holyrood....
it feels like to a lot of people that the scottish parliament gets a free pass from those who think westminster is full of "nasty pastys!"
blaming westminster for everything is a kop out! its the snp government who are spending the money and cutting the service..... you get free univerity places and prescription because you made that choice..... and that choice led you cutting the grants for kids 16-18 for example...
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"She a I lovely woman met her a few moths back, very down to earth, x
Educated in a comprehensive school not a private old boys network school...
She is trying to put ppl first not herself she is speaking sense
In the debates I have seen she is well researched, done by herself not an army of spin doctors and researchers infact in the first debate all the women came across well and stood out the men were just massaging their own egos and talking to camera too much
I didn't know Scotland had comprehensive schools. Greenwood is just an ordinary secondary.
Pedantic shmantic, thank you for correcting. How an ever an ordinary school and not privately educated is the main point
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As was Jim Murphy. Not a private school in sight.
I'm not sure what point you're trying, but failing, to make. |
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"She a I lovely woman met her a few moths back, very down to earth, x
Educated in a comprehensive school not a private old boys network school...
She is trying to put ppl first not herself she is speaking sense
In the debates I have seen she is well researched, done by herself not an army of spin doctors and researchers infact in the first debate all the women came across well and stood out the men were just massaging their own egos and talking to camera too much
I didn't know Scotland had comprehensive schools. Greenwood is just an ordinary secondary.
Pedantic shmantic, thank you for correcting. How an ever an ordinary school and not privately educated is the main point
As was Jim Murphy. Not a private school in sight.
I'm not sure what point you're trying, but failing, to make."
Wasn't talking bout jim Murphy as he wasn't in the debate with milliband, cameron, clegg, etc and they are privately educated old boys network.
At the start of this it's says nice woman an I was merely pointing out that she wasn't privately educated......
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"If ppl would only actually listen to them it's about Westminster and not about scots verses English and putting politics back to the ppl .....
but again.... decision at a local level are made by scots at holyrood....
it feels like to a lot of people that the scottish parliament gets a free pass from those who think westminster is full of "nasty pastys!"
blaming westminster for everything is a kop out! its the snp government who are spending the money and cutting the service..... you get free univerity places and prescription because you made that choice..... and that choice led you cutting the grants for kids 16-18 for example...
"
Education, Nhs and poverty are local?
She wants equality for all? As she said in the debate
education shouldn't be about how much money you have it should be a right for everyone regardless of affordability....
Dont want to see the NHS privatisated as it was made for everyone
Is it not coming in that 16-18 cant leave school until 18 therefore less on the dole and jobless 16/17/18yros that aren't going into higher education? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"If ppl would only actually listen to them it's about Westminster and not about scots verses English and putting politics back to the ppl .....
but again.... decision at a local level are made by scots at holyrood....
it feels like to a lot of people that the scottish parliament gets a free pass from those who think westminster is full of "nasty pastys!"
blaming westminster for everything is a kop out! its the snp government who are spending the money and cutting the service..... you get free univerity places and prescription because you made that choice..... and that choice led you cutting the grants for kids 16-18 for example...
Education, Nhs and poverty are local?
She wants equality for all? As she said in the debate
education shouldn't be about how much money you have it should be a right for everyone regardless of affordability....
Dont want to see the NHS privatisated as it was made for everyone
Is it not coming in that 16-18 cant leave school until 18 therefore less on the dole and jobless 16/17/18yros that aren't going into higher education?"
the scottish education budget and the scottish nhs budget are completely seperate entities and those budgets are dealt with and spend entirely by the scottish government..... privatision in nhs scotland can't happen without scottish government say so!!!!
you like quoting her... where she says education is for everyone, if that is the case why is her scottish government cutting grants for 16-18 year olds then? |
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over a year ago
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"You might as well get used to it. The next government is going to be a Labour led coalition.
Personally speaking, the more SNP get to influence the Labour Party, the better."
What?.....??
The influence will be to increase spending, borrowing and taxes. To siphon more money to Scotland and to run the entire UK for the benefit of a minority North of the border. Wee 'Eck has made this very clear already. The funding formula (Barnet) is already massively skewed in favour of Scotland. This would make it worse.
They would end up with basically full independence.....but funded by English tax payers.
The thought of an SNP government for the whole of the UK scares the pants off me. Think I'd better buy a kilt? |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
Wakefield |
"Oil is only 20% of scotlands gdp. Why do people keep thinking were a one trick pony?
I allways realise how little most people south of the border know about scotland. Very little.
And the anti scottish racism is astounding. Derogatory and nasty. If we are an equal partnership then scotland has the same tight to meddle in englands affairs as england do in scotlands.so many english on tv lately and elsewhere are horrified by the fact the scottish people might have a real say in british politics instead of a side show with the pretense of a partnership.
They dont like it up em "
You should have been born and raised in Scotland then.
The amount of anti English racism I endured growing up in Scotland was exactly the same, if not worse.
When the vote for devolution for Scotland was taken I could not vote evn though I have a house in Scotland, When the referendum on independance was held I could not have a vote even though I was living in my house in Scotland at the time.
Most voters in Scotland voted to remain in the UK, most are happy with that situation.
Oh and I was educated in a school that lost its government funding (due to the SNP) and now is totally independant rather than catering for everyone. |
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over a year ago
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"If ppl would only actually listen to them it's about Westminster and not about scots verses English and putting politics back to the ppl .....
but again.... decision at a local level are made by scots at holyrood....
it feels like to a lot of people that the scottish parliament gets a free pass from those who think westminster is full of "nasty pastys!"
blaming westminster for everything is a kop out! its the snp government who are spending the money and cutting the service..... you get free univerity places and prescription because you made that choice..... and that choice led you cutting the grants for kids 16-18 for example...
Education, Nhs and poverty are local?
She wants equality for all? As she said in the debate
education shouldn't be about how much money you have it should be a right for everyone regardless of affordability....
Dont want to see the NHS privatisated as it was made for everyone
Is it not coming in that 16-18 cant leave school until 18 therefore less on the dole and jobless 16/17/18yros that aren't going into higher education?
the scottish education budget and the scottish nhs budget are completely seperate entities and those budgets are dealt with and spend entirely by the scottish government..... privatision in nhs scotland can't happen without scottish government say so!!!!
you like quoting her... where she says education is for everyone, if that is the case why is her scottish government cutting grants for 16-18 year olds then?"
I thought I had answered the 16-18yros question......
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
near Glasgow |
"scotish communist that wanted Scotland to be independent but now wants to be a Westminster mp
but yeah she needs subtitles"
Wasn't aware of her having any intentions of standing for Westminster. You're maybe getting confused with her ex boss?
Maybe stick to English politics? |
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Educated in a comprehensive school not a private old boys network school...
She is trying to put ppl first not herself she is speaking sense
In the debates I have seen she is well researched, done by herself not an army of spin doctors and researchers infact in the first debate all the women came across well and stood out the men were just massaging their own egos and talking to camera too much
I didn't know Scotland had comprehensive schools. Greenwood is just an ordinary secondary.
Pedantic shmantic, thank you for correcting. How an ever an ordinary school and not privately educated is the main point
As was Jim Murphy. Not a private school in sight.
I'm not sure what point you're trying, but failing, to make.
Wasn't talking bout jim Murphy as he wasn't in the debate with milliband, cameron, clegg, etc and they are privately educated old boys network.
At the start of this it's says nice woman an I was merely pointing out that she wasn't privately educated......
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Milliband wasnt privately educated though. |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
near Glasgow |
"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
Based on this debate, she is head and shoulders above the others."
She got plenty plaudits for her performance on the national debate, but it was a different story on the Scottish one. It wasn't long before she was boxed into a corner, and some truths were exposed! ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
near Glasgow |
"UKIPPERS & SNP right?
Kippers definitely far right
but SNP left at long last- I would say!"
The SNP have always been tartan socialists, nothing new there except that too many people have never seen past the independence issue. |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
near Glasgow |
"As a scot. We have been held to tandom by the 60 million forever. England has allways called the shots for the uk.
Now there is a scottish party a very viable scottish party if a very well liked leader, and what happens? All the english bile comes out about how its do terrible the svots calling the shots in england.
Ohh the irony, how dare they scots tell us what to do, were the ones that yell them instead and they better well eat it up damn hahgus munchers.
The snp are not anti english at all. They are anti tbe set up we have now which is a disaster. I wish the english would go for their independence and throw the lot of them out of power as many dcots want.
The referendum was also lost because every machination of the establishment was put into over drive with the threat of a break ip of the uk. But scots now understand who the enemies are they all came out and showed their hand. Its actually a miru le 45% actually voted yes after what the scots were subject too. You really haf to be here to see it. They terrified the populanc with lies anout pensions and the nhs to get their own way and many believe jt. They promised more powers then renegaded on it.
This is why after the referendum scotland has rose ip behind the snp. Who incidently are now the third biggest party membership in the uk ahead if the uk wide lib dems and inly a few 1000s behind the tories. The people will not be fooled again.
The yes vote lost because it was fuelled by lies and had no real substance what so ever.
Trying to claim that Scotland would be a wealthy country through its oil... The oil has a limited time left due to the UK not thinking to store reserves... And SNP rattling on about the Norwegians as a role model which simply don't add up as they have vast reserves and were building them for a very long time.. Oh and no mention to the Scottish electorate of the extortionate taxes the Norwegians pay.
Automatic joining to the pound? Really not plausible due to the instability the Scottish pound would become aka the next Greek economy anyone?
Also Europe has already told Scotland they would not get automatic entry and could be waiting up to ten years for membership if at all especially as Spain for one would never allow it as they fear it would give the Catalans even more impetus in their fight for independence.
Although she does have an amazing way of talking to people, as a speaker she is superb, very probably the best in British politics and her conviction no matter how misplaced is impressive. "
At last, somebody talking some sense.
And in addition, what on earth is the point of getting independence from Westminster, then going 'cap in hand' to Brussels? |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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"She does not give a damn about Scotland she is a power crazy lunatic,a lot of polititions are,but she is the worst kind evil.
Gives more of a damn than the tories and red tories i think more than 100,000 people joining SNP speaks for itself
The new members were already SNP supporters, the same ones heavily defeated in the Referendum.
The cheapskates simply took advantage of the £1.00 to join special offer."
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"As a scot. We have been held to tandom by the 60 million forever. England has allways called the shots for the uk.
Now there is a scottish party a very viable scottish party if a very well liked leader, and what happens? All the english bile comes out about how its do terrible the svots calling the shots in england.
Ohh the irony, how dare they scots tell us what to do, were the ones that yell them instead and they better well eat it up damn hahgus munchers.
The snp are not anti english at all. They are anti tbe set up we have now which is a disaster. I wish the english would go for their independence and throw the lot of them out of power as many dcots want.
The referendum was also lost because every machination of the establishment was put into over drive with the threat of a break ip of the uk. But scots now understand who the enemies are they all came out and showed their hand. Its actually a miru le 45% actually voted yes after what the scots were subject too. You really haf to be here to see it. They terrified the populanc with lies anout pensions and the nhs to get their own way and many believe jt. They promised more powers then renegaded on it.
This is why after the referendum scotland has rose ip behind the snp. Who incidently are now the third biggest party membership in the uk ahead if the uk wide lib dems and inly a few 1000s behind the tories. The people will not be fooled again.
The yes vote lost because it was fuelled by lies and had no real substance what so ever.
Trying to claim that Scotland would be a wealthy country through its oil... The oil has a limited time left due to the UK not thinking to store reserves... And SNP rattling on about the Norwegians as a role model which simply don't add up as they have vast reserves and were building them for a very long time.. Oh and no mention to the Scottish electorate of the extortionate taxes the Norwegians pay.
Automatic joining to the pound? Really not plausible due to the instability the Scottish pound would become aka the next Greek economy anyone?
Also Europe has already told Scotland they would not get automatic entry and could be waiting up to ten years for membership if at all especially as Spain for one would never allow it as they fear it would give the Catalans even more impetus in their fight for independence.
Although she does have an amazing way of talking to people, as a speaker she is superb, very probably the best in British politics and her conviction no matter how misplaced is impressive.
At last, somebody talking some sense.
And in addition, what on earth is the point of getting independence from Westminster, then going 'cap in hand' to Brussels?"
I might have an answere to that , i work with a bunch of jocks and as one of them said to me not that long ago " would rather be ruled by a bunch of cunts from brussels than those stuck up bunch of english cunts in london " |
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" Aye well them and the rest of the NATS can go live on a wee island and be as independent as they like
Exactly. Too many Scots voting with their hearts, instead of their heads. "
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By *landAnnCouple
over a year ago
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"scotish communist that wanted Scotland to be independent but now wants to be a Westminster mp
but yeah she needs subtitles"
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No, she does not want to be a Westminster MP.
She is a MSP and leader of the Scottish National Party.
Yes, she wants Scotland to be independent... but how does that make her a communist..?
She is a much better politician than Cameron-Clegg- Milliband will ever be... |
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"scotish communist that wanted Scotland to be independent but now wants to be a Westminster mp
but yeah she needs subtitles
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No, she does not want to be a Westminster MP.
She is a MSP and leader of the Scottish National Party.
Yes, she wants Scotland to be independent... but how does that make her a communist..?
She is a much better politician than Cameron-Clegg- Milliband will ever be..."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would like to know, as the leader of a major political party if she takes it up the bum. I think it is a fair and reasonable question as we deserve to know if someone who may have a major role in the future of the country likes it up her back doors. "
It's only fair that all politicians take it up the bum. Well they have been shafting our arses for an eternity. Ouch where's the savlon? |
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"Does she come with subtitles?
Subtitles obviously not required for you to understand Camerons 'down to earth' Eton accent... yah, yah, yah...!"
What's that??? Once more but slowwwwwly. |
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"Does she come with subtitles?
Subtitles obviously not required for you to understand Camerons 'down to earth' Eton accent... yah, yah, yah...!
What's that??? Once more but slowwwwwly."
What does slowwwwwly mean? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Does she come with subtitles?
Subtitles obviously not required for you to understand Camerons 'down to earth' Eton accent... yah, yah, yah...!
What's that??? Once more but slowwwwwly.
What does slowwwwwly mean? "
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"She a I lovely woman met her a few moths back, very down to earth, x
Educated in a comprehensive school not a private old boys network school...
She is trying to put ppl first not herself she is speaking sense
In the debates I have seen she is well researched, done by herself not an army of spin doctors and researchers infact in the first debate all the women came across well and stood out the men were just massaging their own egos and talking to camera too much
I didn't know Scotland had comprehensive schools. Greenwood is just an ordinary secondary.
Pedantic shmantic, thank you for correcting. How an ever an ordinary school and not privately educated is the main point
As was Jim Murphy. Not a private school in sight.
I'm not sure what point you're trying, but failing, to make.
Wasn't talking bout jim Murphy as he wasn't in the debate with milliband, cameron, clegg, etc and they are privately educated old boys network.
At the start of this it's says nice woman an I was merely pointing out that she wasn't privately educated......
Milliband wasnt privately educated though."
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"she may have done well in the uk day.... but in the last 2 nights in the scottish leaders debates, my god is she taking a caning.....
the more i hear jim murphy, the more i like him....
100% agreed. Jim's a b_nny fechter."
He's a lovely man too. I trust his convictions because I have had the chance to argue them with him when he lived in London.
Nicola Sturgeon may yet emerge as the most memorable character from these elections.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Oh Nicky,,,,,,, c'mon, surely you shouldn't say ordinary people when referring to members of the public ...... tut tut,,, ![](/icons/s/2/cute.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I do find it telling that circa 8 months after the general election the SNP have achieved absolutely nothing and have zero power.
They are like a mule with a spinning wheel... |
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"Now she shows the true colours of party leader who fails to live by the pledges she made to accept the will if the people...
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Totally agree, just saw Nicola Sturgeon's latest speech on sky news saying she (and the SNP) intend to launch a new campaign for another referendum on Scottish independence in the summer, and the result of the EU referendum will be irrelevant. They will launch their own campaign for independence if we stay in the EU or if we leave the EU it makes no difference. Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon said before the Scottish referendum they would accept the will of the people and that the result would be a "once in a lifetime" decision. I think todays developments just proves how full of shit both Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond really are. |
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"Now she shows the true colours of party leader who fails to live by the pledges she made to accept the will if the people...
Totally agree, just saw Nicola Sturgeon's latest speech on sky news saying she (and the SNP) intend to launch a new campaign for another referendum on Scottish independence in the summer, and the result of the EU referendum will be irrelevant. They will launch their own campaign for independence if we stay in the EU or if we leave the EU it makes no difference. Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon said before the Scottish referendum they would accept the will of the people and that the result would be a "once in a lifetime" decision. I think todays developments just proves how full of shit both Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond really are. "
The SNP will decline in support at the next scottish elections. There is deep dissatisfaction at the deficit and the perpetual wishing for another independence referendum.
This will leave a void because Labour in Scotland and SNP are rouhhly the same. An opportunity exists for the Tories under Ruth Davidson to recoup mauch of the losses of the past thirty years. |
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By *el65Man
over a year ago
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"Now she shows the true colours of party leader who fails to live by the pledges she made to accept the will if the people...
Totally agree, just saw Nicola Sturgeon's latest speech on sky news saying she (and the SNP) intend to launch a new campaign for another referendum on Scottish independence in the summer, and the result of the EU referendum will be irrelevant. They will launch their own campaign for independence if we stay in the EU or if we leave the EU it makes no difference. Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon said before the Scottish referendum they would accept the will of the people and that the result would be a "once in a lifetime" decision. I think todays developments just proves how full of shit both Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond really are. "
and where did sleekit alex run to??? back to London to make more money , he hated the English so much he wanted to be free of them , but now willing to take a job in the heart of England a two faced little basterd!! |
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"Now she shows the true colours of party leader who fails to live by the pledges she made to accept the will if the people...
Totally agree, just saw Nicola Sturgeon's latest speech on sky news saying she (and the SNP) intend to launch a new campaign for another referendum on Scottish independence in the summer, and the result of the EU referendum will be irrelevant. They will launch their own campaign for independence if we stay in the EU or if we leave the EU it makes no difference. Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon said before the Scottish referendum they would accept the will of the people and that the result would be a "once in a lifetime" decision. I think todays developments just proves how full of shit both Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond really are.
and where did sleekit alex run to??? back to London to make more money , he hated the English so much he wanted to be free of them , but now willing to take a job in the heart of England a two faced little basterd!!"
he probably says same about you ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
5 million should not have the ability to hold 60 million to ransom, not necessarily her fault but she's certainly taking advantage of her position,I bet Cameron wishes he didn't push so hard for a no vote !
I suspect it is only a matter of time before Sturgeon and the SNP get their wish for independence."
read this the other day;
i'll give 10 reasons why we should be independant and then i'm off to bed.....
1 Scotland would officially be one of the world's richest countries - ranked 6th in the OECD compared to the UK's 16th place. We have 24billion barrels of oil remaining in the North Sea, according to industry body Oil and Gas UK. That's £1.5trillion in today's prices - half as much in value as has been taken out.
2 We also have around 25 per cent of Europe's potential offshore wind and tidal energy - and a tenth of Europe's wave power. An extra 45 per cent of renewable energy was generated in Scotland last year, according to the UK Department of Energy. It's more than we need and can be exported for cash.
3 Other countries want to invest here. The recent Ernst & Young UK Attractiveness Survey highlighted Scotland's leading position in the UK for job creation from international investment. With independence, we can make the country even more attractive to these employers.
4 Independence will allow us to keep services such as the NHS and the welfare state. In England they are being privatised and cut. Benefits are being taken from the needy and the Scottish Parliament can't stop that under present powers.
5 Scotland has five of the top 200 universities in the world. We also punch well above our weight in the number of research papers they produce. It means our historic reputation as a well educated nation is flourishing. We give our universities one of the best packages of support in Europe, with no fees for students from Scotland. With independence we can do even more.
6 We'll have more money in our pockets. If we got back what we sent south in tax, official figures show every Scot would have £510 more a year. The only tax the Scottish Government controls just now is council tax, and it's frozen under the SNP. Imagine if we controlled fuel duty, national insurance, VAT and income tax.
7 Our government would be more streamlined. Scotland, like Denmark, New Zealand, Norway and Finland, is a goldilocks country - not too big and not too small. The UK wastes money on bloated institutions bogged down by bureaucracy - look at HMRC, the tax authority. It's gone from one calamity to another. The rich get away with evasion while the rest are overcharged.
8 Mobiles would work and we'd all get high-speed broadband. Telecommunications are controlled in London. Westminster auctions licences to phone companies but only demands 90 per cent coverage of the UK. This means "notspots" in much of Scotland. Broadband is patchy too, and it doesn't help that Scotland's capital budget has been cut by a third by the Tories.
9 Our culture would get a boost. We'd have control over broadcasting and more high-quality programmes could be made here. Our news would no longer look hand-knitted compared with well funded UK offerings. We could export high-quality drama and our young bands would have a platform on the radio.
10 Imagine the goodwill. Scotland is held in high regard around the world - by those who know us. But being buried in brand Britain means sometimes we don't get to shine as we should. Independence would generate global interest |
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"She's probably the only person who would make a good Prime Minister there.
5 million should not have the ability to hold 60 million to ransom, not necessarily her fault but she's certainly taking advantage of her position,I bet Cameron wishes he didn't push so hard for a no vote !
I suspect it is only a matter of time before Sturgeon and the SNP get their wish for independence.
read this the other day;
i'll give 10 reasons why we should be independant and then i'm off to bed.....
1 Scotland would officially be one of the world's richest countries - ranked 6th in the OECD compared to the UK's 16th place. We have 24billion barrels of oil remaining in the North Sea, according to industry body Oil and Gas UK. That's £1.5trillion in today's prices - half as much in value as has been taken out.
2 We also have around 25 per cent of Europe's potential offshore wind and tidal energy - and a tenth of Europe's wave power. An extra 45 per cent of renewable energy was generated in Scotland last year, according to the UK Department of Energy. It's more than we need and can be exported for cash.
3 Other countries want to invest here. The recent Ernst & Young UK Attractiveness Survey highlighted Scotland's leading position in the UK for job creation from international investment. With independence, we can make the country even more attractive to these employers.
4 Independence will allow us to keep services such as the NHS and the welfare state. In England they are being privatised and cut. Benefits are being taken from the needy and the Scottish Parliament can't stop that under present powers.
5 Scotland has five of the top 200 universities in the world. We also punch well above our weight in the number of research papers they produce. It means our historic reputation as a well educated nation is flourishing. We give our universities one of the best packages of support in Europe, with no fees for students from Scotland. With independence we can do even more.
6 We'll have more money in our pockets. If we got back what we sent south in tax, official figures show every Scot would have £510 more a year. The only tax the Scottish Government controls just now is council tax, and it's frozen under the SNP. Imagine if we controlled fuel duty, national insurance, VAT and income tax.
7 Our government would be more streamlined. Scotland, like Denmark, New Zealand, Norway and Finland, is a goldilocks country - not too big and not too small. The UK wastes money on bloated institutions bogged down by bureaucracy - look at HMRC, the tax authority. It's gone from one calamity to another. The rich get away with evasion while the rest are overcharged.
8 Mobiles would work and we'd all get high-speed broadband. Telecommunications are controlled in London. Westminster auctions licences to phone companies but only demands 90 per cent coverage of the UK. This means "notspots" in much of Scotland. Broadband is patchy too, and it doesn't help that Scotland's capital budget has been cut by a third by the Tories.
9 Our culture would get a boost. We'd have control over broadcasting and more high-quality programmes could be made here. Our news would no longer look hand-knitted compared with well funded UK offerings. We could export high-quality drama and our young bands would have a platform on the radio.
10 Imagine the goodwill. Scotland is held in high regard around the world - by those who know us. But being buried in brand Britain means sometimes we don't get to shine as we should. Independence would generate global interest"
I believe you are talking nonsense, these caught my eye.
Number 5... The UK has 7 out of the top 10 Universities in the world, ONLY ONE of which is in Scotland.
Number 8 (I work in Telecommunications)
The reason why you don't get decent mobile or broadband is simple, there isn't enough population in remote areas to make it profitable for Phone companies to put up masts, run cables etc, that wouldn't change.
Number 6... If the Scottish Govt (after independence) had to make up the shortfall in what the UK Gov used to send North, you'd have to raise all taxes.
I'm sure someone with more time to do research could refute all the other points too. |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
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"Now she shows the true colours of party leader who fails to live by the pledges she made to accept the will if the people...
Totally agree, just saw Nicola Sturgeon's latest speech on sky news saying she (and the SNP) intend to launch a new campaign for another referendum on Scottish independence in the summer, and the result of the EU referendum will be irrelevant. They will launch their own campaign for independence if we stay in the EU or if we leave the EU it makes no difference. Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon said before the Scottish referendum they would accept the will of the people and that the result would be a "once in a lifetime" decision. I think todays developments just proves how full of shit both Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond really are. "
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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I dont see whats the problem with the SNP building a new case for independence the SNP have never hid the fact they are for independence and always will be the hint is in the name Scottish National Party.
Even that it will be the will of the Scottish people if independence was to happen.
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